2 Panda Garra Savagely Spar For Dominance! Myanmar's Algea Eating - Fighting Fish? Garra Flavatra

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How does a fish with no Teeth fight?!
Panda Garra Savagely Sparing For Dominance! ? Are They Myanmar's Fighting Fish? Garra Flavatra. Breeding Panda Garra, fishkeeping of a newly discovered species. This happy addition to any aquarium is nearly always peaceful, so I was shocked to see the rare behavior of two (what I believe to be Males) Battling and fighting over dominance. These algae eaters love planted tanks, biofilm and sucking on your hand while you work in the aquarium. They are similar to the small carp used in Chinese fish foot cleaning- as far as behavior, however are not the same species, as many viewers have inquired.
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@sarahmccall3859 5 лет назад

Thank you, this looks more like establishing pecking alpha order... and if you remove them, they will just reestablish if they meet again... mine have already gone through it and now just stay busy eating algae, laying a bout and chasing the occasional nosy tetra

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

Haha thank you. It's funny that you said that, because about a month from when u posted that video, they all relaxed and now most of what they do is lounge around together

@chelseyhill7774 3 года назад

It’s worth noting that when they’re going at it with each other, you can tell if they’re being genuinely aggressive or not by the color they turn. If they’re being aggressive, they’ll start to lose their black coloring and be mostly the pale yellow. The more aggressive, the more yellow they have.

@chelseyhill7774 3 года назад

Your panda Garra in this video is very yellow. Definitely aggression. Pecking order stuff. Hope they stopped fighting🤗

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Thank you! That is a really great observation. They stopped fighting literally an hour after the video and as of 2 or 3 years, haven't ever fought in front of me since lol

@AquariumCop 5 лет назад

Great video , oh that brawl was fierce ! Look forward of hearing what's up.

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

2 males fighting for dominance over the 3 females in the tank...the other 2 males just knew they were gonna lose and didnt bother... it's funny, one is definitely on sitting on the highest stone perch all day today...perhaps thats the alpha male's spot?

@chia_pet7121 Год назад

7:12 PandaCat: "NOPE!, don't want any of that." PandaCat is a prude or pacifish, depending on what you find out. 🐟

@signaturestreetballmoves 5 лет назад

Fighting.

@rayp4008 5 лет назад

Well seeing others who have observed the same behavior, but no insight on what or why. Keep up the good work.

@christopheraltenhofen4234 4 года назад

Territorial for sure. I had one in my tank but then introduced a second garra and they immediately went at it just like this for a favored spot under a piece of wood. The original garra lightened color immediately, I'm assuming a threat to the new fish. Within about 15 minutes, it stopped.

@axelsandi 4 года назад

how do the two cooperate?

@CaylorsReptilesAquatics 5 лет назад

Rough Love. My Gold Loaches were quite large and they often had intimate moments, obviously more than coincidence. Where is Marlin Perkins when you need him!?

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

hahahah oh Bob! you're the man.

@jjxtwo1 Год назад

I've kept 6 panda garra for over 3 years now and they seem to enjoy beating the cheese out of each other. Sometimes it's a king of rock thing and other times they argue over food. But they don't seem to need a reason to wrestle pretty rough. Having 6 helps spread the roughness around so that no one fish gets too beat up. Lots of objects to hide in and break up line of sight helps too. Most of the time they coexist just fine. They are quite an active and entertaining fish. No babies yet. You can find them for $4 each now online.

@Fishtory Год назад

Lol yeah they're so different depending on group size and each individual personality

@axelsandi 4 года назад

we also have one garra and after day two it got stuck in a repetitive circling and glass surfing mode for hours. so we bought a second one and they got along pretty well. immediately the glass surfing has ever since stopped but after a few days the new garra inhabited the most prominent cave and is fierce-fully attacking and chasing the old garra out of the cave whenever it gets in its vicinity. the old one doesnt seem to bother too much about that, nor does it reply the vicious attacks. outside the cave they get along pretty well. we plan on constructing a new cave for the old garra at the other end of the tank.

@Fishtory 4 года назад

Mine stopped within a week and I've never seen a sparring match since

@whatever833 Год назад

Did you ever learn more about this behavior? I'm watching mine do this right now and remembered your video. I only have 3 in my heavily planted 29 gal. I may try to get 2 more to add to their social structure.

@Fishtory Год назад

Yeah, its males usually establishing which fish will be the dominant one...they should do it once or twice, or if one dies etc. And the dynamics change

@Korvmannen Год назад

@@Fishtory Interesting. My instincts would tell me to give the guys a time-out frome ach other to calm down. Was it settled? (RU-vid search sucks, I tried)

@Fishtory Год назад

@Korvmannen both moves could work. But often times fish need 5, 6 or 7 individuals for them to behave somewhat naturally. Some species will sit in a corner and barely move or eat if theyre lonely...others jump out of tanks, or start killing other fish. Its very interesting and more of an art than a science

@michaeltewell2659 5 лет назад

I just ordered a few of these. Did you ever figure out if this is mating or fighting? Or both lol. Just wondering so when I see mine doing this I know what’s going on

@FishRfun 6 месяцев назад

Wow...I have 3 panda garras on order. 2 for my 55g and 1 for my 15g. Ideal conditions in both tanks for them with heavy flow, well oxygenated, mixture of stones/gravel/granite, but I've been assured a 55g is big enough to avoid aggression, so this is concerning. I do have a back up plan in case the of the worst, so that's not a problem

@AmyOMay 5 лет назад

I have about 8 of these guys in my tank. Most of the time they just hang out and eat at least once a month a catch a couple of them doing this though. I've never seen any damage as a result so I let it be.

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

same, mine haven't fought since this 3 day period. I think they established who's the top fish

@elizabethG633 3 года назад

Interesting I came across this video Alexander. I am strongly considering getting some Panda Garra for my tanks, but after seeing this I think one per tank would be enough, except for the 30 gal tank, that one would need at least two more. Now I am thinking of going back to algae eaters AND some pigmy cory's just to keep it safe.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Well to be fair, they did this for a week, and it's been over 2 years now...and I've never seen them do this again, or seen injuries from fighting. They definitely seem to like being in a group of 4 or 5+ , but some males also seem fine being alone as well

@elizabethG633 3 года назад

@@Fishtory Well I have six, two in three tanks each, but I am going back for more. They are the best entertainment I have experienced in my tanks in a long time. They groom each other and do well in bigger quantities.

@Fishtory 3 года назад

@@elizabethG633 yeah their a really great fish. Little water puppies... panda loaches and panda carries and Taiwanese Micro Dragons are all similarly behaved ...and so fun

@FishRfun 6 месяцев назад

Yeah i see my sterbais in the t position quite a bit

@mastahogweh5657 3 года назад

I have 5 panda garras in my 20g tank, and 2 small garras always fight for dominance, but my biggest one always hops in between them and shows them who's boss and stop the fight immediately 😂

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Haha that's awesome. Thanks for sharing that hehe

@billcoleman782 4 года назад

My Loaches will do the same thing from time to time, including the loss of color. They are deciding who is the king of the tank. If they were breeding at least one of them would be very brightly colored.

@Fishtory 4 года назад

It's always fascinating to watch

@billcoleman782 4 года назад

@@Fishtory Yes it is.

@billcoleman782 4 года назад

@@Fishtory I caught some of my Loaches fighting for lack of a better term.

@etyrnal 2 года назад

like a coupe of brothers on a long distance back seat car trip

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Haha oh perfect analogy. Now they get along ...swimmingly

@0Greenwell0 5 лет назад

That limbo... I understand what you mean. Intervene because a fish tank isn’t technically natural or let them be and have as natural of an existence as possible. It’s a hard decision.

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

perfectly spoken

@ISayNukem 2 года назад

@@Fishtory -- If you've ever watched Star Trek, remember the Prime Directive! I would say if someone is getting badly damaged, though, remove them for a bit to heal.

@johngonzalez7967 5 лет назад

Two of mine did the same thing, they’re in a community tank. Because they’re in a community tank I never did see any fry. I felt like it was just who is the dominant one. One of my spawing angelfish took a chunk out of one and it end up dying,

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

yeah these are definitely males, i could see later on, when they cooled off. Man they fought 10 minutes, slamming the heck out of one another...no blood though.

@johngonzalez7967 5 лет назад

The Secret History Living in Your Aquarium yes, mine only did it one time. I think I caught it on video. I think I posted it on the RU-vid. Never did it again

@tinadoyle3803 Год назад

Will they eat snails ?

@FKJ_WORLD 5 лет назад

hey bro that looks like mating...lolol

@jacodherbst 3 месяца назад

Have you seen their eggs. What does it look like? I cant get any information on what their eggs look like on the web. I found 7eggs that looks like snail eggs but are blueish and found the 2 fish in question on that spot this morning. I dont have snails other than rabbit snails in my tank

@guacamolebrechfa4439 2 года назад

I absolutely love panda garras! However when i asked for some at my LFS the person was adamant that they were very aggressive towards other fish especially other bottom dwellers, she called them as bad as flying foxes and said most people returned them! Is this something you have had problems with? Ive only been in this hobby for a year or so, so i am conflicted on what to think.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

They only fight one anothe for pecking order as young males...but they can be really mean for a day or two...they leave other fish out of it and once it's sorted, 99% of the time, it never happens again. But it is alarming...and pet stores only see new batches coming in over and over...always establishing that dominance thing each time the tanks are restocked....so I can see why they would think they are mean.

@giftofthewild6665 Год назад

They might be aggressive towards bottom dwellers that get too close to "their" territory, but they probably don't care much about mid water fish.

@Shaden0040 5 лет назад

It reminds me of a territorial fight.

@Fishtory 5 лет назад

i think so too. or alpha male fight rank

@HaMediocreMan 2 года назад

I have two that are doing something similar but are very pale in color to the point I thought they were dead at first.

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Yeah they can kill one another apparently. Although rare and usually it only comes to fighting when they first meet (first few days) and need to establish dominance. Sorry to hear about your fish.

@etyrnal 2 года назад

Were those julii cory?

@Fishtory 2 года назад

They were likely trilineatus cory. So "False Julii" (but I enjoy their markings even more haha(

@pobster88j94 Год назад

Fighting. If they fade and are mostly gray yellow, they are sparring. I read it.

@Fishtory Год назад

True now that ive had them 3 or 4 years ive noticed the same thing

@jesuslatino8890 2 года назад

Mine fought at first and than stopped. Few months down the line i noticed that they started to fight again. This afternoon i noticed that two got wounded, one is dying they other one is missing, so i assume its on its way out as well....

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Oh sorry to hear that... the head male must have had his authority questioned by a younger male... bummer

@djhalls5695 2 года назад

Jesus, what size of of tank are they in? What other type of fish are in the tank? I just got 6, they are very small. I have them quarantined right now.

@katehartley2333 3 года назад

We have 3 and 2 of them do this nightly. I assume it's establishing pecking order

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Totally

@chia_pet7121 Год назад

I heard it is better to have a single one, or a group of five or more to keep this from happening. Looks like brothers/sisters fighting?

@Fishtory Год назад

I agree

@granganador3900 Год назад

My panda have been harrased and do not know how to stop it

@Fishtory Год назад

Theyll chill when one gets dominant clearly. But it takes a heirarchy forming to stop the squabbles

@Boss-zo4lw 10 месяцев назад

This has put me off ordering these, well i have one on his own and was going to get a few more, not now lol

@Fishtory 10 месяцев назад

They never ever did it again...but it was startling

@FishRfun 6 месяцев назад

Thats good to hear that they were finally able to get along, because I ordered mine last night...lol

@izmaj6120 3 года назад

will they eat fish slime?

@Fishtory 3 года назад

Not in a harmful way, but sometimes they will kind suck on my angelfish or my plecos...not for very long and the other fish just seem confused, not hurt or upset. Lol

@Razzthetics 2 года назад

Will they eat dwarf shrimp?

@Fishtory 2 года назад

Not intentionally...but if a baby comes by and they're eating at the bottom, I'm sure they do eat anything that fits in their mouth, like most fish

@Razzthetics 2 года назад

@@Fishtory thankyou so much 😊

@tinadoyle3803 Год назад

Intervene please.

@kevinlawson9766 4 года назад

You should intervene when fighting. If you believe in letting nature take its course, they shouldn't be in a tank. When they start to damage each other one needs to come out - responsible fish keeping.

@Fishtory 4 года назад

Definitely when they damage each other, i step in...but these guys dont really bite, they "arm wrestle" their whole body and once they did it for a few days- it never occurred again. Just a dominance thing, i suppose

@madturtle8826 3 года назад

They hardly look like they are hurting each other. They were doing what they do in nature and either one could have stopped and swam away but they didn’t. It’s different if you have a fish actively hunting down and attacking/killing other fish. This was far from it. I also love when people act like keeping fish in an aquarium is so “un-nature” like . Some of these fish live their lives in small puddles in the wild or spend their lives in an area not much bigger then a 55 gallon aquarium. . They don’t travel vast distances. They don’t migrate from ocean to river. Thanks though for reminding us on how to be a “responsible” fish keeper.