I had a 2000 Trans Am, WS6, automatic transmission, the car ran a 13:21 ET. I bought the car new and traded it in on an Audi A8 in 2002. I miss the Trans Am !
It's really sad that Ford didn't put out a Mustang GT that matched this until 2011. I say that as someone who has always had Mustangs. Ford REALLY fucked this whole thing up, but didn't care because the Mustang outsold both the Camaro and Firebird combined. What a world.
Never understood why the mustang was outselling these. The f bodies handled better, were faster, more powerful and way more stylish. The marketing was just right for the mustang I guess.
+pontiacGXPfan That's not necessarily true. Despite all of the tree huggers yapping about such things as fuel economy, hybrids/electrics, visions of autonomous cars, carless cities and bullet trains, today is still a much better time to be a muscle/pony car fan than back in the late 1990s and early 2000s. These types of cars were a dying breed back in 2001 as the segment was being squeezed out by Asian sport compacts and big SUVs and pickup trucks. Today, we have Mustangs, Camaros, and Challengers that'll blow the doors off these old F-Bodies. Since then, the tables have turned, and American muscle is back in the spotlight. Today's pony cars are better in every conceivable way. Despite all of that, I can still relate, and would still love to own a 1998-2002 Trans Am WS6 one day myself. Those were my dream cars back when I was in high school, and I hated GM for a long time after they axed the Camaro and Firebird.
+Black Sunshine Well one thing going for Late 90s Camaros and Firebirds is there price... they're pretty cheap and they happen to have one of the greatest V8 platfroms ever conceived. Too you can swap in just about any LSX engine you could find in the GM parts catalogue. They can make awesome canvases for imaginative gear heads.
jeadelmann90 No doubt. If I had 8-10k laying around right now then I'd be seriously looking for one. A 1998-2002 Trans Am WS6 would look pretty good sitting next to my 2006 Mustang GT.
Black Sunshine Yep! Although I'd be careful about buying inexpensive Fbodies... people beat the shit out of the cheap ones... But the LS series are fantastic engines and there's such an aftermarket for performance upgrades it's unbelievable.
That Iroc spoiler is totally badass. I fell in love with it on sight. Banked on it becoming an option for all colors in '02, which it was. Placed my order for a fully loaded 6m red one in February 2002. I will die owning both my birds.
That's awesome man! I got my 1994 25th Anniversary Trans-Am LT1 w/6-speed in 1996 while I was still in high school. My second was a 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am LS1 w/6-speed and I love it. Just like you I refuse to give either of them up.
I reluctantly sold my 2000 Camaro SS and 6 months later bought a 2002 WS6 Trans Am. Just love 4th Gens. I have a bad urge to own an SS again and keep the WS6 too!
Let's settle the Firehawk vs. SS dispute here - In 2001 both cars had a BASE hp rating of 325. There was an OPTIONAL exhaust package for both cars which raised it to 335. In 2002 both cars still had a BASE rating of 325. The optional exhaust still gave 335. But for ONE YEAR ONLY there was an ADDITIONAL cold air intake option which with the exhaust made 345. Neither car out-performed the other. Same rating if optioned the same. You'll just hear guys with the intake or exhaust kits down talking other guys claiming the Pontiacs are slower or the other way around. So the fact that they say that the Hawk has 10 more hp than the SS here, it's because of the high flow exhaust. What's strange is that in the video the Pontiac has an EGR passage on the front of the intake manifold which was removed for 2001. Only '98's - '00's have that front EGR tubing . . . . . . . . .
I have the $345 horsepower option from SLP which was just an air cleaner lid from SLP that's supposedly gave 10 more horsepower with the 10 horsepower on the exhaust either center or dual dual
@@marcusevangeliste7426 yep. My point exactly. I'm an owner of a 345 center exhaust SS car. These cars are equal performers if they were optioned the same.
@@chevyfan1251992 My 1998 z28 automatic stock did 105mph at sea level in 60 degree weather. it was only rated at 305hp. With a lid, 224/224 114lsa cam, catback, and dyno tune it did 340rwhp and 108-109 in the 1/4. So stock it must have been about 290rwhp which means it must have been closer to 340 to the crank stock. my 2004 z06 stock is rated at 405hp (350rwhp) and has trapped 112-115mph in the 1/4 which accounts for the weight difference and better gearing compared to my 98 auto
Gotta love the Firehawks. I have a 97 formula WS6, which I like more than the later 4th gens. An LT1 with bolt on mods is a beast. 4th gear chirps are easily done.
Tengo un Trans Am WS6 2002 y estoy muy satisfecho con esa compra, a pesar de que la suspensión es muy dura, los asientos son muy cómodos. ¿y la aceleración? pues magnífica, V8 5.7L 325hp, ya se imaginarán.
I want to see a Blackbird test drive... those things are devastating powerwise, sound wise, and naturally aspirated make 140-150 more hp with the same motor.
That Firehawk is a beautiful car, and I would definately take it over that SS. My personal favorites are the 77 T/A's and the 81 Z28's. I had a 80 Z28 as my first car, I loved that car.
I had a 2001 WS6 6-spd. Corsa Cat Back, free flow cats, Shorty headers, and a tune, with 355 315 nittos, This car beat cars that ran 11:8’s in a 1/4 mile, from a roll in first gear, anything that ran 12’s in a 1/4 mile, I would gap by 2-3 car car links . 1-4th gear, they taught I was spraying NOS.. Funniest car I ever owned ..
The 10th anniverary should have been 2002. Yeah I know 1992-2001 is 10 actual model years but the way most people count it they could have called it 1992-2002 and then the 10th anniv would have also been the last year of the F-bodies, making it even more special. As it were, they didn't sell that great as most collector minded people waited until 2002 to see what kind of annniversary package GM would offer. I started to buy a 10th but waited for the last year myself even though I loved the black/gold scheme. Nonetheless all Firehawks are awesome!
in 2001-2002 that hose for the EGR was no longer there..yet in these pictures it is showing me that the car that was filmed was actually a 2000 and earlier model..anyone who knows anything about the LS1's knows that they actually had 350HP out of the box..and some have even dipped into he high 12's with DR's...GM greatly under-rated them...times of high 12's just with DR's prove that.
Lee N sorry bro but you are wrong. 98 & 99 & 00 ls1s have the old style ls1 intake and 01, 02 had ls6 style intake. ive had several ls1 cars. the EGR on the ls6 style intake is in a different place. google it
My 1999 Trans am ran 6 speed ran 12.88 @110 dead stock back in 2003 when I bought it. Gears, air lid and cat back it went 12.23@114. Still have hit....although it's way faster now....
My 95 is a 5 speed , don't quote me but i think the tremec 6 speed came out the same year as the LS ( 1998 ) i think . 2001 definatly would be a 6 speed though , or the 4 speed auto .
rpm9621282 Yes mine is a 6 cylinder (until it blows and becomes an LS) . I will keep my Camaro until they outlaw gas engines , i hope to die before they force me into a self driving box . All the new cars are crippled by safety equipment , and driver nannies which makes them stupid and heavy . And the price for a top model Camaro has more than doubled since 2001 .
Ok makes sense, the v6s never got the 6speed. I had a blast with my 93 TA, but I am having even more fun now with my 09 Z06 :) My buddy has a bone stock 01 SS that ran a solid 12.7 with only drag radials and a rear gear swap. It's on my channel if you wanna get it out.
i run a 95 formula and to be honest, i wasted too much money with bolt ons and ported heads. scrapped that set up and am currently installing a 6.0 vortec from a 2500hd. she will then be a true beast.
13.5 quarter mile? BS! more like 13.0 or slightly better. They really made sure not to upset GM and Chevys corvette times back then, didn't they? lmao damn that's a straight lie.
The track they tested on is 75and80 in MD. I sued to go there, notice its uphill and not flat also the track tarmac was not good at all. The track you could say was slow. So the numbers they observed are conservative. They miles per hour should be a better indicator of what you could get at a better track and HP.
Yardie Noh OMG where are you getting this from? T-5s were NEVER installed in C4 Corvettes or any other Corvette. Do some homework before you make false statements for everyone to read.
4:17 I think the driver missed a gear or two... sounded like the RPMs dropped from around 5,000 to 3,000. I wonder if he went from 1st to 4th instead of to 2nd...
Stk.,Non SLP FIREHAWKS,Believe Were 325 h.p. on the LS1's, Slightly Below the WS6's 345,in 2001 & 02.?I Was Interested in the 97 HURST LINGENNELTER FIREBIRD LTD. PROD.OF 50,That U Had to Go Thru LINGENNELTER to Order it,Till I Found Out it was $42,000 Grand.Ported Heads,Stiffer Valve Springs,Borla Exhaust,& Beefed Up Brakes ,Which A Good Speed Shop Could do For U,A Lot Cheaper, That Believe Was the LT 1 MTR.
Midnight81ta-- true, but engines in the past HAD to produce that amount of hp, BECAUSE OF THEIR WEIGHT! most 2nd, 3rd gen cars were made of steel making them weight 3.5k pounds, when most cars of today weigh around 2.5-3k
realgraff16 Yes they definitely can. These cars are the most significantly underestimated, under rated and over looked F-bodys Ever produced. These things are awesome! With my Non SLP 2000 SS T56 6-speed I ran 13.1@107 with 80k odo with the original and tired clutch. My Buddy had a stock 2001 A4 Trans Am and managed 13.2@106 and he's less than a good driver. I have posted videos of both cars runnin the aforementioned times. LS1 F-Bodys keep pace with '13 5.0 and '13 SS Camaros. That's the truth
Wait did he say this car has a standard 5 speed manual transmission? I think that is a mistake cause all manual fbody's come with a 6 speed so I highly doubt that slp swapped out the 6 speed for a 5 speed. It makes no sense so that has to be a mistake!!!
wes patton like i said, the cars pictured weren't the actual cars driven...in 2001 the LS1 lost the bigger cam, but gained a better intake manifold..no mention of the cam's being smaller ; 98-2000 202/210..496/496..vs 2001-2002 ; 197/207..467/479..116lsa for both..best deal around is to get the 2000 and replace the intake with the LS6 ...motor week cannot drag race a car to save there lives.
I like the bird better but looks like the only difference if it was accurate footage was the driver blew the tires off of the Camaro more so than the bird.
First time I've heard someone else refer to these as pony cars. One time I said that to my wife, she looked at me like i was crazy. Apparently in her mind only Mustangs are pony's.
***** Lol You have to know that was my attempt at being 'funny'. I was in a goofy mood that day when I made that comment. I wouldn't even consider my car a rice burner because I think of those as little modded civics and what not that would beat my car. Mine is just a plain little sedan that gets 39 mpg. I love these F bodies. God bless
the problem is they only ran these once... these things run low 13s stock. they are not far behind from the current Camaros... so either GM is making boats with V8s currently, or the LS1 is just a better motor as far as the powerband goes even with less ponies from the factory.
John Nelson DEFINITELY boats. The 5th gens are PIGS it's atrocious. I was able to go 13.6 @ 102 in my 98 Z/28 6 speed 100% stock (literally the weakest LS1 ever made) at sea level... My first day at the track. No offense to 5th gen owners, but a lot of them that opt for the 6 speed can't drive and they are in the 14s... Awful. The auto ones are obviously more consistent, but for their power they are disappointing to me. The 5.0 S197 Mustangs wipe the street and track with 5th gen Slowmaros. They are just simply too heavy.
+Marcus Mar really are 5th gen was quick. We always had 3 people in it and we always seemed to beat corvettes, zl1s, and mustangs. We had 485 to the wheels
