2018 Ford F-150 Diesel On and Off-Road Review: So How Does It Drive? 

Should come with a 250k mile warranty for 70k.

SEVENTYTWOTHOUSANDFUCKINGDOLLARS?!?!?!

Been following TFL since Andre was behind the camera. I'm glad you guys put him in front. Seems like a cool guy.

Nice review. Thanks!

72K lmao people are going to be in debt forever these days

The pick up truck used to be the working mans vehicle and now all three are so overpriced it’s ridiculous

The reason Ford doesn’t offer the diesel for regular consumers is because if they did no one would buy the overpriced trims loaded with features no one needs.

Very exciting times for truck fans/folks that need or want trucks, diesel lovers etc.

Bad move to classify all public consumers as a non premium customer.

XL and XLT only available to fleet customer. Time to be a fleet customer and resell them to the public. $$$$$

Best Truck review I’ve seen so far

Leave it to ford to make a $40,000 base model 2wd truck lol.

So what you're saying is, keep the 3.5L EcoBoost because there's no significant upside to the diesel....

Thanks you Andre, My next truck will not be associated with "work" it will be associated with play! I am sick and tired of dragging tools, saws. lumber, tile in and out of my truck! I want your job!

Good information, Thanks Guys !!!!!!!!

Good Job Roman

This is why ford has fallen off the map for me. I mean it's nice but ram and Chevy don't cut off the cheaper trucks from their everyday customer. Plus I could get a a well loaded cummins titan xd for close to the same price as that base model ford. Just my opinion

The diesel 4X4 would take over 190k miles to pay for itself over the 5.0L V8 given that that engine recommends 87 octane fuel. Even the 2.7L and the 3.5L ecoboost require only 87 octane, the 3.5L recommends 93 for towing, but the typical half ton buyer is not doing all their mileage towing - MAYBE 5%. Sure, in 2WD form, this engine makes sense, but in 4WD I think they fell too short on fuel economy to justify the price and performance difference.

Great video. Love watching these trucks get pushed. Ford's owning it. Can't wait to see the comparisons with chevy and ram

I've hauled over 1ton in my 4x4 lariat 3.5 ecoboost. No issues handling that weight. Very impressive.

The problem is the price , you might as well go 3,4 ton with the 6.7 .

This fleet BS is getting old , in 2004 I was shopping for a new truck and I wanted a Ford Ranger regular cab long bed 4x4 to replace my 94 ranger but they were only available to fleet customers I was so pissed off I bought a Silverado and have not been interested in Fords since .

this video popped up and disappeared yesterday! either way i'm watching closely for the towing loop test... good stuff!

@The Fast Lane Truck I own two pick ups. A 2016 Silverado Lt with a 5.3L ecotec3 slightly modded. I also have a 2011 F150 with a 5.4L triaton bulletproofed. But I was thing about upgraded both this year. So your reviews this year will help me pick.

I can’t wait to see more towing and real world mileage

I’d definitely buy the F150 Diesel and I’d also buy the F350 with the 6.7L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel V8 and both my trucks will be White

The payload you mentioned of 1950 lbs sounds like the f150 without the heavy duty payload package. Will the hd payload package be available with this engine?

Beatiful f150 with great sound

I'll out pull,out tow & out accelerate the diesel with my '18 3.5EB very proudly....and still get 22MPG COMBINED when I drive conservatively!

It's a diesel with 10 gears and still can't get 30mpg on the highway? Wtf

I would buy base extended cab 4x4 diesel truck and rip out back seats. Do back seats come out or fold up?

How do they get the lights to strobe?

Great video. Let’s see the Dodge and Chevy!

Hell yes. Great video. Great to see some real mud.

Whether I buy a Ford or not, Andre, you did a good job on this review. Now have Roman send you 'down' some better weather for the next one.

Can you imagine a 2-4 inch lift and mudding tire. Damn that thing would be unstoppable.

Not a very good truck for towing in my opinion. The problem with all light duty trucks is payload. If you tow 11,000 pounds and your trailer is properly balanced you are using 1100 pound of payload capacity from the load on your hitch. Add to that the driver, fuel, etc, you are pretty much at your payload limit. Thats why I had to go to a heavy duty truck to pull my 11,000 pound trailer. My F150 was right at the limit with just me in it, so taking my family with me in the same vehicle I was technically over the payload limit.

Don't worry, the base price has stayed the same...we just won't sell it to you.

Just another great review. two to re-coop your investment isn't bad at all. I just like the feel of a diesel. torq matters

They all ready are on the market

All that money, and I would still have to buy tires, that looks no different than a normal dirt road in spring/fall. An off road package should not have street tires.

Why you shouldn't buy one: -Less horsepower than EcoBoost -Less torque than EcoBoost -More expensive than EcoBoost -More expensive to maintain than EcoBoost -More problematic over time compared to EcoBoost -Only available in the over-priced higher trim levels -Very little difference in MPG compared to EcoBoost -Diesel fuel is more expensive in most places than gasoline -Less payload and towing capacity than EcoBoost

I think Ford will eventually offer the diesel engine option in all trim levels but they`re going to wait and see what GM & Ram does first with their trim levels and engine options.

Looking forward to the 98mi loop, to see the real benefit in the baby powerstroke.

Those fleet models are going to be snapped up quickly once they enter the 2nd owner market down the road.

It's not just ford, companies tend to put the new engine everyone wants in the trim level no one wants to pay for to force people to buy the expensive trim. Look at the previous generation Ford f150s, you needed to get the platinum our limited to get the 6.2 v8, same with the Nissan titan diesels, and most other cars with sought after engines. Edit: also companies won't put up with that garbage so they can't do the trim level thing to them. And really how much do you thing your saving in mpg by spending 40k more on a truck that gets 3-5 mpg better or whatever it is. How long will it take you to break even on the extra 40k?

Does this engine use a gear driven oil pump ,or is it belt driven as on the smaller European ,four cylinder diesel engines?

I think the EPA ratings are based on this engine only showing up in high trim levels on the normal consumer side. The ecodiesel is in all but Sport and Rebel trim levels and thus it’s rating is derived from lower models. I think the 25 hwy will be a very modest rating for the 4x4 unlike the highway ratings on ecoboost.

3.5 ecoboost still has more torque and more horsepower and can tow more and more payload. And with the 10 speed and 4x4 gets almost the exact same gas mileage.

Honestly there is no positive points for this truck compared to the ecoboost. Why buy this over ecoboost? It made sense for ram to have their diesel half ton since their v8 and v6 trucks are not as efficient, but ecoboost f150s are already pretty efficient.

Oh God... That truck is just gorgeous... Ford makes a damn good looking truck.

I love when andrew makes the videos

Ike gauntlet!!

The price deal is definitely a perception being pushed by dealers stocking up on optioned out trucks

What is all those white specs flying by?

Should I buy a f150 diesel with the 10 speed trans or Chevy 3oliter diesel for 219 l tow a dump trailer once a week with 3 yard dirt do the diesel bags down what kind mileage you get

A person who drives a $70k pickup truck doesn't care about the price of fuel.

$70k+ for a King Ranch half ton? Either we entered 10% more inflation this year or they're overcharging for the diesel option. Might as well get an F250 King Ranch at that point which is around $70k before discounts and incentives...(with the 6.7)

The truck I am really interested in is the rumored Hybrid eco boost. If the electric motors help the gas engine on take offs and hills and passing etc that could be a monster truck.

as far as recouping your cost difference over the 3.5L ecoboost, what happens to the number of miles you're stating it takes when you figure in the cost of DEF and any higher maintenance costs for the diesel motor vs the gas?

The most bought f150 trim package is the xlt and they cut mostly everyone out of buying it with that option. Guess will wait for the inline option from gm

As much as I like ford this is a huge disappointment

I wonder how much more each oil change costs than on the gas truck? That adds up pretty quickly on the big diesels.

I really have to consider this Diesel. I will only be towing my 24’ camp trailer and range is my main concern. My brother has the eco boost V6 and it rocks. But if the Diesel will give me more range on tank I would be very tempted.

Properly Dirty!

No thanks I'll keep my Coyote 2WD XLT Supercab

Can someone please explain what is diesel exhaust fluid ? Is it to decrease smog ?

does this truck engine combo have start/stop for a diesel???

I’ll stick with my Chevy Colorado Duramax

It's not a true diesel unless it smells and sounds like one... God I love the old 7.3 and 5.9!!

I just bought one. It's actually a little too quiet. I ran CAT heavy equipment for 23 years and I like the sound of a diesel engine.

I now want to know what does ford consider a fleet customer do u need to by more then one at a time?

Rotflmao ooooooo it can do donuts and sling steam out from it! 80grand or more

Diesels are just better, Ford should have developed diesels way earlier.

Premium for the EcoBoost? I was surprised when I saw my 2012 Owner's Manual recommended 87 octane. I tried a few tanks of premium and saw no difference in performance nor mpg.

Andre, I guess I have to take exception to your payback analysis. The base engine for the Lariat is the 2.7L EcoBoost therefore the diesel is a $4,000 option. Further, the manual only says that for best performance, 91 octane is required. I believe almost everyone will buy the 87 octane (Ford Powertrain Manager Paul Seredynski said "EcoBoost engines don't require premium fuel. Ford recommends that you don't go below 87, but all modern engines simply adapt to whatever fuel you put in." So the payback calculation is $4,000 plus increased maintenance costs. Also, diesel is about $0.50 a gallon more expensive that 87 octane. The bad news is a 4x4 combined mileage is 22 mpg for both the 2.7L on 87 octane and the diesel. I don't see how you pay more for the diesel fuel while getting similar mileage ever allows for a payback. The only way it'll ever make financial sense is if you're are towing or hauling heavy loads daily and the ecoboost is assumed to take a big dump in mileage while doing so. That said none of that will matter to the diesel dorks that will have to have one no matter what.... Still a great review Andre!!!!!

No thanks I'll keep my Cummins!

Unless you are hauling stuff nearly every day, you do not need a diesel.

I’m hoping you guys can give us the amount of range per tank the f150 can offer.

Can’t wait to see it straight piped

$72k for a run of the mill F-150 work truck. Ford must be out of their god damn mind. At that price point you might as well buy a Raptor or F-250.

Beautiful truck and I can appreciate the technology. But I’ll stick with my Pro-4x Titan 5.6L that will run 400,000 miles.

Ford lost me with no diesel option on the XL/XLT. I don't need a luxury truck, I want to do hauling/towing and significant highway mileage. The top tier models are for that soccer dad, who hires a contractor to do all the work.

Andre, 3 liters is moreso to do with 2 things. 1) Having an undersquare bore to stroke (narrow bore, long stroke) and 2) for world deployment, where most countries (EU especially) tax on displacement.

Ford Slays

I will keep my eco diesel. The Ford is overpriced!

Why isn't it available in the Expedition?

How does it drive compared to 3.5 EB? I dont like high reving engines.

No worries, Chevy will offer their diesel half ton in all trim levels to everyone. So obviously ford has not learned their lesson with holding customers hostage with over bloated priced trucks jammed down the the customers throats. Taking the ranger away to try and force people to buy the f150 just pretty much sent ranger customers like myself who’s previously own 3 rangers to Toyota for Tacoma’s. Hence the reason Toyota Tacoma is now the top selling compact pick up. Keep going Ford, pretty soon, you will send yourself out of the automotive market all together. Your marketing decisions really suck, just In case you haven’t noticed.

When nissan has a better diesel than ford....I'll stick with my 18 year old f150 for these prices. Love the Fast Lane Truck though.

what do you guys mean by fleet customers ?

What do you have to do to be considered a fleet Company by Ford's Standards? Having a small business myself in the Pilot Car Escort Business, does anyone know if I would qualify?

Wow lol

Nope. Not paying 55k+ on a Mexican truck.

Torque is when the wheels are grabbed to terrafirma and using all gut to move machine forward, power is what makes the wheels spin!

Need base model advalibal to reg customers. To keep up with competition. Ram offers their 3.0L ecodiesel in the Express and tradesmen for regular customers at cheap price point

i guess for those who are curious about this engine is to look up the land rovers see how it has held up with them it will be basically the same engine except with a few mods for the ford trucks

Truck prices are nuts. 40k for an xl. All I can say is thank you new truck buyers for paying for half of my new used trucks.

Agreed, very fun video. And agreed, let’s see another brand instead of the usual Ford mashup

Saw a Platinum In Scottsdale - 1,200 lbs. max cargo capacity??? My 2015 3.5L eco boost is 1,900.