24 Tacoma Is ALMOST A Good Off Roader - Here Is What Toyota Needs To Fix It

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24 Tacoma Is ALMOST A Good Off Roader - Here Is What Toyota Needs To Fix It
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@crisikingful 15 дней назад

Like I tell my friends who love Tacomas dont buy the 4th gen yet lol but they wont listen 😂 cause i drive a frontier lol but im only one who keeps up with the truck and car world in my friend group and work on them.

@Jojo-ni2cg 15 дней назад

Great overall video Jason! good info on the Taco

@ArchangelMLM 15 дней назад

TFL is a great truck channel and Truck King also, I was shocked when they broke the Tacoma and they looked shocked themselves. The Car Care Nut is the best channel if you are into Toyotas. Toyota hit it out of the park with the best looking Tacoma so far with the refresh but really dropped the ball on QC and the companies other issues.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@ArchangelMLM agree on all points. Until this year I loved toyota and had 4 in my name a year ago. This year toyota corporate dropped the ball and now in 2024 it's the company I like the least. Not because of the trucks, but because of the company right now

@deantrainr 15 дней назад

No thanks Jason, I’ll pass on ANY 4th gen Tacoma!😳

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

I wouldn't buy it either. But it does have potential if they just did some updates

@billw8476 15 дней назад

@@Jason-Samko best "update' would be the v6 n/a in front of that 8 speed. you know it, and so do we.

@dominica2765 15 дней назад

Hi, thanks for the video. Hope you and the family are well. People are having problems with the 35s heating up their turbo chargers plus those bigger tires are going to cause issues in the long run, the truck is too weak. Have a great day.🙏🫡

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@dominica2765 I have heard the same. Always in the boost and Trans running hot with 35s

@hochhaul 15 дней назад

Ultimately the issue is that Toyota seems to have opted to cut corners and save tons of money by mostly carrying over the drivetrain from the previous truck instead of beefing all the components up to handle the torque. Instead, they tried to protect all these components by using software limits to protect various weak points like the manual transmission and ADD. I think that they are wrong or lying about the incident that the Truck King was involved in, and that he shifted from 5th to 3rd but the rev matching calibration was off and destroyed the clutch. Had he shifted to 1st gear at the speed he was moving at, the rear tires would have at least chirped and the engine would have have revved way past redline, not just revved to 4500 rpm. It's disappointing to say the least. They're going too light on the drive train components and trying to do too much with software limits.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

Agree. Hopefully toyota bites the bullet and does some major Trans upgrades

@Holden-McGroin 15 дней назад

Yep

@YerBoyTroy 14 дней назад

I'm confused. What did they bring over from the 3rd gen platform? I thought everything was new to the 4thgen

@Jason-Samko 14 дней назад

@YerBoyTroy the trwns is the same as has been used in the hylux for many years I believe

@pcap2700 15 дней назад

Recently brought my 3rd tacoma 2024 trd sport all with manual transmissions i have a 2008 with 210 ,000 miles no problems at all which im keeping the 2024 has 2500 miles and is sitting at the dealer waiting for a new transmission love the truck and keeping it once its fixed

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@pcap2700 sorry yours had the Trans issue. Hope they get parts soon. Love the manuals and glad toyota is still making them.

@pcap2700 15 дней назад

@@Jason-Samko seems like everybody’s trashing Toyota trucks right now but most of the new vehicles seem to be having problems I love the Tacoma and sticking by it no mater what people say

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@pcap2700 nothing wrong with sticking with it. And I do believe after some of the bugs worked out the new toyotas will be amazing. All first year vehicles suffer from this sort of stuff. But I sure do feel bad for how toyora is handling tundra owners right now as well as you guys with the parts unavailable for months. Wish toyta would just yank a part oout of the production crate and send it to the dealer asap. Toyota corporate upsets me. Toyota dealers upset me. But the trucks are good and are gonna be great after the new model issues

@pcap2700 15 дней назад

@@Jason-Samko that’s what I said to myself about the production parts !!

@DUNEATV 15 дней назад

That Gladiator wasn’t a Rubicon so it needs a sway bar disconnect. It would far surpass both the other trucks even if they were disconnected.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@DUNEATV true. But the flex on that taco was pretty amazing

@dos0711 15 дней назад

Rubicon with the sway bar disconnected would have stayed planted

@HAHA.GoodMeme 15 дней назад

Tacoma with Apex sway bar disconnect also stays planted

@ryankunkel8247 12 дней назад

@@HAHA.GoodMeme Tacoma isn't in the same class as a Rubicon when it comes to crawling. C'mon.

@shannoncasper8670 14 дней назад

Great video. Makes me glad I went with Nissan. Had many of them over the years and for relatively easy off-roading I do, Nissan has never disappointed me.

@Jason-Samko 14 дней назад

Nissan is rock solid. and in todays world rock solid carrys alot of weight.

@secretdrone 15 дней назад

I also enjoy the 4wd Adventure channel and all of the different trucks that are occasionally showcased off-road, even if it is mainly Frontier related.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@secretdrone yep fantastic real world down to earth channel.

@patgarrett9454 15 дней назад

I asked a Toyota salesman what happened to the new Tacoma? He said, “Toyota made this for their main customer. Over 50 and retired men who want a truck but not a full size truck. Many of them have trouble getting into a full-size truck. Toyota did listen to their main market. Unfortunately, their main market likes tech and comfortability, not capability. They’re also the largest population and have most of the money compared to younger generations.” I realized that I see fewer young men driving Tacomas compared to older guys driving them. Toyota did listen to their market. Can’t be mad at that (I am upset that 2023 was the last of an icon). However, I think, majority of older guys don’t want off-roading capability. They want to say they drive a “truck” but want it to be comfortable. Just how it is. Is it right? Majority of their previous customers (where they got survey info from) think it is 🤷‍♂️. I think everything comes and goes in cycles. People no longer need trucks for what they used to need them for. I’m not going to buy one though. I predict if we want an “off-road” truck in the future, we’ll need to create them ourselves.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

Could very well be what toyota is doing with the tacoma and why. But the domestics are embracing the offroad truck world hard core right now. Raptor, zr2 at4x gladiator, try, rho, tremor, etc.

@xiaxiong9197 13 дней назад

I totally agree with you. Toyota 4 wheel system needs to be fixed.

@Jason-Samko 13 дней назад

Most annoying thing I've ever experienced offroad

@antoniocognato5023 15 дней назад

I mean the new trd pro looks sweet!..... but not 67k with a 10k mark up sweet with the 9%interest cherry on top 😅

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@antoniocognato5023 yep the price is just stupid

@HAHA.GoodMeme 15 дней назад

I have about 10k miles offroad in my 3rd gen. you have to roll forward for a bit to engage the locker. It will engage before it's needed.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

I had 65k miles of swamp use in my 22 tacoma with locker engagement multiple times a day and it sucked. Absolutely sucked. Nunber 1 reason I sold the truck and bought the gladiator.

@CurtGodwin 15 дней назад

I kinda think that Subaru did the same thing with the CVT in the Outback Wilderness. Since it has the turbo, it puts out much more HP and torque compared to the NA 2.5L engine. I've driven the NA 2.5 models and the CVT feels fine. I can definitely tell it's a CVT, but it's actually not bad. But the tuning on the 2.4T really seems to remove a LOT of low-end torque that I think is to lessen the chances of CVT chain slip.

@djjd3027 14 дней назад

This is just engineering short falls all the way around. In the TFL video the engineer stated that they have been using the same ADD for years without issue. Well if you look the 3rd gen Taco, it made 265lbfts at 4600rpms. The second gen made 266 at 4000rpms. This one makes over 300 at around 2700rpms. That's a huge difference in how much and where it hits. I watched the Truck king video. There's noway he went in first. That's just a major cop-out by Toyota. Also there's a reason they have a stop sale on all manual transmissions. A lot of this doesn't bode well for this Tacoma. I'm really disappointed. I wanted one of these specifically because you can still get them with a stick. Plus the power delivery looks so much better then previous gens. But the quality is just not there, nor is the engineering behind it.

@Jason-Samko 14 дней назад

@djjd3027 hopefully toyota will get these issues solved over the next year or 2 and it will regain that toyota badge of honor

@wilyceyote 15 дней назад

The biggest problems with the manual transmissions are you can’t shift it like a sports car because it’s a truck, and the reason why automatic transmissions breaking because weren’t designed for the torque and the horsepower the vehicle weight and pay load as well the engineers under designed them because vehicle weight and fuel economy and because people don’t comprehend it’s a small pick up truck it can’t carry as much as an F150 just saying

@Holden-McGroin 15 дней назад

I think Toyota was the first to offer a selectable front locker in the US in the Landcruiser. The fact they no longer offer one in anything when everyone else does is absurd.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@Holden-McGroin agree. Especially when toyota knew all other brands now offer a midsize with a front locker (except nissan). And with the tacoma just coming out after all others they will be a no front locker midsize for the next 8 or 10 years. Way behind the others.

@usnr5950 15 дней назад

The 2024 Toyota Tacoma has the highest ground clearance of any previous Tacoma when you measure it when it’s on the tow truck.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

I don't think that is correct. This year toyota went ro running ground clearance numbers. And even with the 32 inch tires the diff is bigger and lower I believe

@deantrainr 15 дней назад

@@usnr5950 STILL😳 wouldn’t buy it. Cheaply made; worse than the 3rd gen and a high, high price tag with Toyota cutting serious corners on the drivetrain.

@xanderjackson8518 15 дней назад

I like vehicles with a military style design. That being said I would get the trailhunter if and only if I won the lottery and had an extra vehicle.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

Yep that's an expensive one

@Zimbo999 15 дней назад

Look closer 1200 is not real. Look at Gvwr and curb weight. I think Toyota puts that number out to provide same payload regardless of options. The base vehicle manual has a curb weight around 4500 and gvwr of 6175. What does the 1200 mean? Not much legally.

@antoniocognato5023 15 дней назад

Hows that new ranger raptor looking 👀

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@antoniocognato5023 looks great. But alot of tech and fancy stuff I don't like. I'd be getting a zr2 if I can't Find a good deal on another gladiator next year

@antoniocognato5023 14 дней назад

@SamkoWorkShop you think nissan titan is a good truck? Dealer out in Arizona has 52!! 12k off sticker. Plus 0%.....great warranty too. What's your opinion? All trucks seem to have their issues. Hit or miss on everything it seems.

@Jason-Samko 14 дней назад

@@antoniocognato5023 I live the titan. You should watch the video I just posted 2 mins ago

@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks 15 дней назад

I give You the locker! The font locker we don't need it

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks use mine multiple times a day. I need it here in the swamps. And people in the sand feel the same. There is a whole nother world to offroad other than mountians

@C.Lopez-SWFL-Off-Road-Trucks 14 дней назад

@@Jason-Samko yeah i know but here i'm florida lockers don't work

@trixsevenoneroyalbluez1257 8 дней назад

Swap a 3rd gen engine into 4th gen truck❤

@Jason-Samko 8 дней назад

@@trixsevenoneroyalbluez1257 would be a great combo

@joefurrer5428 12 дней назад

It looks like a mini Tundra and there's no question about it cookie cutter design off of the tundra no style in my book to separated it😅

@Jason-Samko 12 дней назад

@@joefurrer5428 it does look like a mi I tundra and shares many of the same parts

@beeslandscaping 15 дней назад

Ranger raptor is the best value for a off road midsize truck

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@beeslandscaping ranger raptor is a very nice truck.

@pcap2700 15 дней назад

Never buy a Ford Never

@beri232 14 дней назад

@@pcap2700 lol…. You could literally say that about EVERY manufacturer now.

@antoniocognato5023 15 дней назад

Trd pro. 67k....with 10k mark up......insane

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

@@antoniocognato5023 agree

@dougk7158 15 дней назад

They will never do those things, a Tacoma with that stuff added, they would set the msrp at 80k. They are greedy, build the illusion of an offroad truck then charge 10k extra for it. Eventually i'll probably give in and get one, and they'll clean my pockets. I tried a Trail Boss, but the seating and steering was not comfortable after 10mins. Maybe the ZR2 will be better.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

Glad they make different trucks. Gives more options for different people and thier needs and wants. Me personally, I live the seating the colorado much better than the new tacoma. And hopefully when you are ready to buy your new tacoma the prices come down some and the deals get better. I'm seeing inventory stack up and prices starting to come back to reality. So I be by late fall the deals on the 24 tacos is gonna be much better for you.

@condios3312 15 дней назад

2024 Tacoma does not deserve to be called “Taco”

@albertlim5054 15 дней назад

It is made in Mexico.

@billw8476 15 дней назад

the TRD stand for "turd"

@antoniocognato5023 15 дней назад

No more taco......it's a chalupa 😅 now

@shannoncasper8670 14 дней назад

Looks like the new Tacoma is built cheaper and priced way higher. For the price of a TRD I'd rather get an F-250 with the Tremor package.

@Jason-Samko 14 дней назад

I do agree. There are alot of trucks you can get for that money. Heck you could by a frontier and an armada for the price of this tacoma.

@dominica2765 15 дней назад

I think they try to copy off a GM on the appearance of the truck, but they didn’t do a good enough job. GM looks way better. My opinion Toyota just looks cheap and from what we can tell It is cheap

@RCian2000 15 дней назад

The GM twins are more aesthetically pleasing, the Tacoma looks like a cartoon for some reason

@dominica2765 15 дней назад

Agree very sad Toyota is lost their minds. I had many Toyotas through the years. My last one was a 2020 tundra pro which I sold and bought a jeep gladiator that I’m very happy with.

@Jason-Samko 15 дней назад

I do think the gm twins are the sexiest mid size trucks made

@beri232 14 дней назад

I love the looks of the new Tacoma TRD Pro….. but that’s where the love stops. Mechanically, it’s a p.o.s. and those stupid isometric seats are the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.

@RCian2000 14 дней назад

@@beri232 😂😂