Truth about the PSA Dagger: The Cheapest Glock Clone 1000 Round Review (vs G19 Gen 5) 

Exactly

Palmetto is known for price gouging and taking advantage of customers same as CTD. What makes you think they’re using quality materials for these guns?

@@mapled3135 in what world is $300 price gouging? PSA is one of the few American manufacturers with available guns right now, and that includes their ARs. I own 0 PSA products but it doesn’t take a genius to see that they’re basically giving guns away (per their mission statement. )

Who’s talking about that gun? They sell that POS for $300 because they have no choice.

And like their mission statement says they want to arm as many Americans as possible with quality working guns And when the shtf it's going to be hard to find a fan cleaner then

Shtf😂🤣, what do you think is gonna happen!?

@@mia1shooter Who know but evidently he is afraid it will happen Twice in the shower 😮

How much do they cost ?

@@mia1shooter "not ready to be unplugged" One of many who are about to learn the hard way.

@Chris G it was probably mia1shooter's idea to hit the car lots. Not used. The NEW car lot. 🔥 🚗🔥

Glock isn’t trying to take the bottom of the market they will let Taurus and the likes have that

Try finding Canik mags tho

Still happy with my $329 Beretta APX Centurion.

They are showing up in stock alot this week. I bought one last Friday with DLC coating and night sights. They sold out quick, but popped back up today

@Robert Wallace they're overpriced for what they offer now. Plenty of guns are just as reliable now and don't have a dog shit trigger or sights and have more features

I’m debating on purchasing the same deal you got. Do you think its worth it?

How is it holding up so far?

@@Davyw95 fantastic!

Garbage, just because it looks cool it doesn’t mean you smile when you see shit 🤷‍♂️

​@kasperdagreat1 what do you mean "do you think it's worth it?". Any gun that functions well and comes with 10 mags for less than 400 total is a steal and you'll never find anything better. Those psa deals are literally impossible to beat anywhere else in the country, probably for years to come.

thanks man!

@@HonestOutlawReviews I agree with him 100% thank you for doing what you do man!

Absolutely. You could review a BB gun, and I would dig it!

Just don't plug explosive olights and your one of my favorites

@@matthewluyster4037 you probably shouldn't do a RU-vid search for "honest outlaw olight" then

As a dog trainer, I don't know what life is like without dog hair in literally everything including brand new items that are brought into the house. And also still finding dog hair 3 years after not having a dog literally within 1000 meters of the premises.

@@kairu_aname it makes you wonder if they were stashing it somewhere just to mess with you.

I have honestly found dog hair in my refrigerator! How the hell it got in there I'll never know! I've got two boxers, they are destructive M F'rs for sure.

My Catahoula has hair so sparse you can see her skin through it yet there’s white hair all over the damn house! I had hoped she’d be better about that than the Golden we used to have. No such luck!

I liked the MOS. Most people use that setup and have good luck. I prefer night sights and MAYBE a light. Anything more is just converting it to a home gun, but there are better home options (shotguns etc) so I had to move on from a RMR on a carry pistol, it has its uses maybe in competitions, but irons are more durable and time proven. I currently run a 19x, as a main pistol and have no regrets. I can still conceal if I need to, and I get the benefit of having a 17 grip. It's not preferred, but my god is it accurate and comfortable. AIWB has very little discomfort, but you get used to it. Overall I like the MOS system, but it's a useless feature for my preference.

The trigger pin appears to be walking out in the pistol reviewed here as well.

Good data points! I'd buy this over a used G19 all day, every day!!

sounds fucking awful, thanks for the review

@@DK-gy7ll I saw that as well at the 8:52 mark.

Glock trigger/etc pins are cheap af. Have you tried a different set of pins?

I was going crazy thinking I had received an email from work.

@@t3kman exactly! I was thinking I had a notification for my laptop even though I was watching on my iPhone 😂😂 amazing how it messes with your head

It just happened to me. 😂

bro same

Holy shit i thought i was crazy

Where did you get yours

​@@tyson1499go to PSA armoury they have great daily deals. Got mine for around $240

Online store.

Bought a frame today for 50$!!!

Scooped one myself and was impressed. Full size frame for me (large hands) and the compact frame for the misses. Ripped 250 rounds through it last weekend without issue. Not bad for $400.

Thanks for taking pride in your work. What America used to be.

Shit if I worked there I'd be like johnny cash. One piece at a time, and it didn't cost me a dime 😂

Thank you for your conscientious work 👍 from a bench Smith. Just checked and apparently Google thinks all bench Smiths are bench pressing weights 🤣😂

What happened after covid? Any tips on getting into something with firearms? I've run my own handyman business for awhile but I very much am ready to get into the gun world at an official capacity.

@@KJTUSKJTUS hell yeah

Checked my notifications just now…

Got mine in ODG with the threaded barrel, 2X-height AmeriGlo sights and the Noblex cut around Easter for $364. I sat on the fence for about 10 minutes too long and missed the Venom-equipped version FOR THE SAME PRICE (crying emoji). With a $128 TruGlo Micro it's still under $500. It's only been out to the range TWO whole times, for a whopping 250 rd. count. The trigger is starting to bug me and my brother detests it; I know this little gun will shoot wonderfully once I replace it. Still shoots pretty well, but the take-up is heavy and just... weird. That's my only complaint, but considering how many people replace their factory "Perfection" triggers anyways...

Second the original comment.

What site did you use

@@tyson1499buy from them directly. Daily deals, good bundles, and cheaper prices then your local store

I paid exactly 500 for it. It came with the cut slide and threaded barrel, as well as vortex venom. seemed like a good idea. It's with the FFL so we'll see.

@@garakward6118 i thought about getting that one in ranger green in the near future here, let me know how it shoots and handle and would you use it as a edc gun

@@danielmoua7724 I shot mine loved it. If still wouldn't use i as an EDC. My thinking around firearms is that there will always be lemons. Glock makes lemons. There are glocks leaving the factory that will not work. There are Daniel Defense and Bravo Company that are just not going to work. Every company will create duds. However the more expensive companies have higher denominators. 1/100000 glocks fail vs 1/1000 Daggers. For an every day carry gun the denominator matters, for a range/competition gun it just doesn't. If you really can't afford a higher priced gun, take it to the range. My understanding is if it's going to fail it will either be in first 100 rounds or in the thousands. So if you shoot your gun at the range and it likes your ammo and you don't run into any major problems it'll probably be good for you. Whatever you go with I hope it works and I hope it makes you happy.

@James VanHook what is the $0.25 trigger job?

@@Woodpusherpro basically polishing the metal parts of the trigger assemble and taking any sharp edges off of metal parts. Look up Glock trigger job here on YT and you will get a lot of examples. Easy cheap and fast way to get a smoother trigger

The comment I was looking for! Thank you 💪🏽

luckily I have a palmetto state armory right down the road and can just have it shipped there for free. picked up the 10 15rd mag and carry bag for 350

dude this is from 2 years ago they were hard to find at MSRP then

Have you shot it?

For individuals. People with bigger hands hate the ergos because theres no modularity for the grip.

@@danielblair6592 Duh?

I'm not a Glock guy, never owned one until I realized the Glock 19 was the most common. That meant in a SHTF scenario it would be the easiest to find (keeping your holster) as well as mags and of course ammo. Now I have one for each 72 hr kit I own and with my bugout bags.

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor It's all about building a system you have confidence in... I don't really care about what I can find because I have a system built around guns I shoot the most/own meaning holsters/carriers, mags, lots of reloading gear/components and ammo... I live in the middle of no where's on about 15 acres, with a 5 acre pond, surrounded by about 25k acres of deer leases that I'm a member of. So if SHTF all I'm going to do is lock my gates, hunker down, and ride it out with family/friends that have camps at the deer leases up the road a couple miles... At least you have a game plan!! That's more then most people considering the amount of guns and ammo that's being sold lately a lot of people got caught with their pants down... Take care!!!

@@DanielBoone337 my great uncle, John Moses Browning, isn't the only one in my family who designs and builds guns and firearm accessories but he did such a good job that every firearms designer has had a hard time not using his designs even a century after he did most of them. I have helped build thousands of firearms and have personally made hundreds of holsters. I have loaded tens of thousands of rounds and sold millions of components. Now that we have both bragged about our background a little, and after refusing to get a Glock style pistol out of respect for my great uncle it is the most common and that says something. While I can make any firearm I want, and do. And I can make any caliber ammunition and do. If I were in a scenario trying to get home I would carry one of the most common tools just because it is one I'm more likely to find components for in that situation. I live in a very rural place but work in one of the largest cities in the U.S. The Glock style 19 was added to my kits not by any means the only model I have available to me or by any measure a favorite. My experience had made me consider redundancies and that includes what everyone else is doing. Good luck on your plan. I have a similar plan with several such properties in a couple different states.

@@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor I guess you took that the wrong way buddy I'm not bragging the property I'm on I inherited, I have a membership on the deer leases because they're right up the road, and I like to hunt and I don't have any background other than being a welder/pipe fitter. LOL I'm just a guy that has a system built around being prepared is all... What I have on me or is at my home is what I got and is what my system is built around.... There's more then 1 way to skin a cat as they say...

@@DanielBoone337 I get you got that going for you and I sincerely hope it's never needed and if it is I also hope that works for you. My only intent was to elucidate things a little and at the very least get you to consider backup plans. Good luck and stay vigilant.

Feels 10x better in hand than a glock. Watch other reviews and get one in your hand

Nobody was doing Stryker guns until glock made it popular. Since then everybody has copied or made there own version. I havent seen a pistol copied so much. Maybe the cz 75 has more copies.

@@treverdavis5881 nah. 1911 and Browning Hi-power have more copies but likely the CZ is third

@Chris G I have had gen 3 glocks and have gen 4 and 5 glocks. I miss the old Melonite finish, but other than that they seem just fine to me.

@Chris G an ak will outshoot the shooter. They are plenty accurate.

great idea

The dagger is a great gun and many of us waited years to get our hands on one. I'm buying another soon. Super accurate and wouldn't hesitate putting it against higher tier Gucci guns

@@c10rich41 are you saying you would put this up against a higher end gun because of the accuracy or you would just put this up against a Gucci gun because of value?

@@calsol22 the grip alone beats out the glock. Palm swell is excellent. Accuracy. You're getting a gen3 glock but better imo. Get one in hand and go shoot it. No complaints from me. End of the day it's still a glock clone at 300 beans but I dig it.. Well exceeded my expectations.

Current content notwithstanding, sounds like a great series, I have always used that exact theory (spend a little, get the best value) and it almost wyas works....

I bought a complete lower for 99$ and it came with a striped ar lower for free.

@@Matt-to1bi I bought 2 complete dagger lowers for 119.99 one regular and one full size today

I see u took advantage of those great deals they have been running lately as well. I just got the bundle deal with the OD Green Dagger lower with a AR-15 stripped lower for $99. I also got the sw1 black rmr cut slide w/ DLC coated threaded barrel for $199 shipped. Those prices are so phenomenal I almost bought several.

Completely agree. I think the TX22 is best overall deal on the gun market today; so much greatness in a gun that you are likely to shoot ALOT! I recommend them to everyone who will listen. As soon as I felt that grip, I knew I had scored an awesome gun.

The TX 22 feels like it was designed for my hand.

Agreed. I love my TX22. It’s the only pistol I’ve ever owned that felt like an extension of my hand.

I built a few P80’s and I didn’t like them. The frames never felt like they were up to the same spec as Glock OEM. I’m pretty handy with precision tools and although I got them to work, I would never call them self defense reliable. P80 has had several batches of out of spec frames over the years and their QC varies wildly. While I totally and completely understand the benefit of an unserialized firearm a law abiding citizen can assemble from parts at home, it just never felt like the quality and reliably was there. My P80’s were strictly range toys and learning tools to teach me firearms engineering, so to speak.

I bet.

@@leroyjenkins4811 the v2 frames are consistent, I think the real problem is the rails

I agree! You can get a whole pistol for the cost of an aftermarket slide for your P80 build. Once PSA has all the bits in stock regularly, it will be the place to shop for building one.

@@leroyjenkins4811 guess im lucky, never had anything out of spec in the last couple builds ive made, and the glass filed nylon #6 that p80 uses is just as strong if not stronger than Glock poylmor IMO, never got my frames to flex. My p80's have always went bang, I've even replaced all my glock OEM frames with p80's and i carry them everyday and never looked.

How much are additional magazines? Can you get Safariland ALS holsters for one? I'm not trying to be an ass, I legit want to have the conversation. I'm already drowning in Glock mags which are affordable and plentiful and honestly, if I can't get a good Safariland retention holster for something to go on my warbelt I kind of lose interest.

@@murphykenji mags are hard to find - there's high demand and being based off the p99, Walther ppq and PDP owners have been known to poach them as well. That being said, amazing guns for the price

I'll take a Glock over a Canik, but I'll take a Canik over a Glock clone any day. No other trigger for the price compares to a Canik trigger. GunMagWarehouse usually have Canik(Mecgar)mags in stock, and they're normally only 5-7 bucks over the price of a Glock mag. I also like the fact that the shitty kydex holster Canik ships with does the job, and it fits Glock 17, 19, 19x, 45's, and CZ P10 series pistols. Some people argue they can't support Canik because they're made in Turkey, yet they fill their homes and closets with Chinese crap while posting from their iPhones. Caniks are a win for me.

@@nadirthebottomrock6706 I am amazed at the people who won't buy something from a country perceived to have a government unfriendly to America. Hell, I was born in America and much of my own country hates me. America's president wants to turn over firearms ownership policy to the UN, and the UN certainly doesn't care about America. Sheesh

@@thinman8621 Amen also we are one of the worlds biggest problem in many ways masked as democracy..

Yeah, but he's like 9'3" so his "ergos" are gonna be completely different than most.

Love my Canik

Canik sc w red dot edc

I get that people love their Canik's. But I don't especially endorse buying stuff from countries whose governments hate us, and keep in mind Glock and it's clones have nearly limitless selection and support for magazines/accessories/ holsters/ sights etc etc etc. The complete Dagger frames are going for a hun when they're in stock, the ergos are interesting. ...to be fair, Palmetto State Armory is in the United States, which also currently has a government that mostly hates us...

@@murphykenji yes I agree, I started feeling the same way not to long ago. They love us when we're feeding them the money though.

@@murphykenji So you're saying the Turkish government hates "us"...who is "us"? is "us" freedom loving gun owning Americans? Cause i could make a pretty good case that the current government of the United States hates "us"

Are these beans you speak of sort of like peas or humus ? WTF

If you put a glock trigger in it it will decrease the value lol jk I think I know what you mean

Glock just sells its name. There are alot of cheaper better glock clones

Yet the vast majority of gun tubers still carry Glock..

It’s quality and reliability doesn’t compare to a Glock

@@kamikaze253 says the Brandon Herrera worshipper.

For your second P80, you should try building it yourself. Sure is fun!

@@sofloflow That’s what the Agency Syndicate was! Ordered it from Brownells and a few days later there it was on my door step, ready to cut and build. You’re right, very fun! And educational as I got to see that the P80 frame is as close to perfect as possible for my hand size. That’s why I bought the PFC9. And it’s freaking awesome, the one I want to pick up and shoot. The Syndicate has the tightest tolerance upper I’ve seen in any pistol but the trigger feels squishy to me (could be something I did wrong in assembly but a local gunsmith says it’s fine). Yes, I’d suggest everyone build a pistol.

Sootch00 just did a compare video with the clones check it out

@@samthefishmansnyder5851 I’ll take a look but…I don’t have the…confidence…in Sootch I once did.

@@sofloflow 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Good jab at his diminutive manhood 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@TheMetalGuy852 their uppers are good for the money

@TheMetalGuy852 maybe it was a bad batch? I have 2 of their uppers and both are running smoothly

What site did u use

Did u order that bundle? Ive just seen that

Have one, running it way past 1k rounds and no issues

Agreed...waaay better guns in the $500 price range.

500 for a vp9? I could never find it that low. Lucky you

@@Swagmonkeyfan1306 it was before the rona panic buying started.

I love your reviews. Those are sold for $300 everyday now. I'm not sure where you bought it for $500 but you got duped. The trigger is not great but we'll see how it does after a polish job. Mine fits my hand perfectly and the grip is outstanding in comparison to a Glock. It's a shame they didn't design the trigger guard to fit G19 holsters, but I have a feeling that will change in future models. Yes, time will tell but I believe it will be a best seller for the next few years.

1:44 confused the shit outta me

Thank you for the humor

I was late to the draw. But the minute my phone told me you uploaded I clicked. Also I think I may have a few you might wanna interview!

Ha

Yes, this is funny!

Quite happy with my $329 Centurion...

APX has a great trigger for a striker fired gun

Totally agree man, I got my apx for 375.

@H K You make an excellent point. The Glocks I've seen that look and feel great have been fully customized with a new trigger, front and rear sights, and guide rod, plus slide and frame work, all of which can add $1,500 to $2,000 to the cost of the pistol. That's way out of my league.

Most people who will buy this gun are too broke to afford thousands of rounds of ammo, don't care much about training, and are gonna shoot it twice then throw it in their glove box and forget that it exists.

@@aldousorwell3807 I think you're absolutely correct.

I respectfully disagree.. he has extra large hands that’s why he’s not keeping it. Medium sized hand shooters will love this gun. I’ll be ordering soon since accepts all my existing Glock mags.. worst case I replace with Glock trigger.. still saving ton of $$$ and all my gear still matches up 💪🇺🇸

Came back to this review after putting about 1000 rounds myself on one I picked up a couple months ago. I agree with you. I dig his reviews, but he had a real biased bug up his ass on this one. Everything about it runs perfectly. I reload and have put everything from screaming hot to powder puff loads through it, *trying* to make it malfunction, and it ate all of it without a single stutter. It feels great, points great, and after so many rounds and even more dry firing, the trigger is more than functional. Zero failures after 1000+, and I can group double taps in under 2 inches at 10-15 yards. It's my new carry gun.

What did you do about the trigger? Looking to get one of these and have become overly spoiled to my Canik trigger 😅

@@thriwaway7865 fire it. It smooths out. It also doesn't hurt to just make sure you're accustomed to each gun you own. Everyone puts way too much stock in a good trigger. You can be a damn good shot with anything if you become familiar with it.

@@CrashRacknShoot thanks for the advice! I usually stick with all oem parts and just get used to it, but my first gun was a canik so I was spoiled from the jump 😬 happy shootin friend! 🤠

@@thriwaway7865 I should mention I'm in a very similar boat. 1911s, CZs, Caniks, all before I got a dagger. Was never in short supply of quality firearms. But the things the dagger has going for it is reliability and inexpensive. These are good things for me because a cheap, reliable gun is exactly what I want for a carry piece. Why? Because should you have to use it in a defensive situation, it'll be in lockup for 1-2 years (at least in my area) while the case gets sorted out. I don't want a safe queen being in some shitty police "storage" for that long. It'll get beat up, rusted, all that. Id rather have something where I dont mind it taking that abuse. So instead, I got really good with a dagger. I got 1000 rounds through mine now, and I can print very tight groups well past self defense distances simply from trying. I now have full confidence in it keeping me safe and at a great price point. A "meh" trigger also gets you *very* good with your other guns, so there is a lot of benefit to it. If you're thinking on one, go for it, my guy.

Just got my dagger, rmr slide , threaded barrel, and supressor sights, $399, trigger feels smooth, same long pull and mushy wall as my gen 5 mos but the daggers trigger is smoother and cleaner out of the factory, but still shit compared to a g 43 factory trigger. My only complaints, racking the slide it sound like nails on a chalkboard, serious metal grinding needs some moly or to break in and the slide fit to the frame is kinda crap, large gap at muzzle below the guide rod and it teeters front to back and twists side to side

Sootch00 says he will not post negative reviews of firearms he does not like. He just gives them back to the manufacturer and tells them what he does not like about them. I guess that is his right. I also like Honest Outlaw, but some of his criticisms are based solely on his HUGE hands. That’s like lefties criticizing a firearm because it’s built for righties

PSA is rockin. Giving customers options like no other at very reasonable prices.

Triggers I've never cared about I usually change them out anyway

I was ok with mine too. Put an apex daek in it though. Not the forward set kit. Left all the stock springs too. So trigger pull is light. It’s quite good. The PDP might be as good. Never compared them side by side. But other than that nothing compares. It’s my favorite plastic gun. Low bore axis + excellent trigger = cheat code for shooting.

In plastic mags in a very hot pistol yes. Plastic expands. I've seen it with ETS mags at classes. I only run OEM glock mags in my 19 so I haven't had it happen to me.

I own a gen one I got in '87 I think, carried it on duty offshore for almost 30 years... A mag get stuck? Never. Only problem was crappy ammo a couple times.

I have smaller hands, like full-size pistols are about an inch longer than my hand. I love the compact grip on this thing.