.327 Federal Magnum Handload Ballistic Test & Why it's the BEST Carry Caliber 

Do you think it is better than the s&w that shoots 327 mag, they got a new one that shoots the 32 H&R mag that's getting a lot of attention

I love Starline. I just wish they weren't zold out of my calibers all the time.

I found the 32H&R mag to be the round I like the most. Minimal recoil with respectable power, that's all I can ask for.

@@patrickhenry236 I found their booth at a couple of NRA conventions. A 500 count box of their virgin brass is sweet. I measured the first 40 or so, but they were all the exact same length.

@@johnkinsel5027 I don't have a 327, but was referring to other calibers such as 444 marlin and 41 magnum. Some 9.3x57 would be pretty nice too.

@@P.HATHCOX my wife uses this load in her ruger. The federal are a bit snappy for her. My brother carries the federal though. Nice rounds either way, way underrated.

Thanks. I like the LCR trigger myself. I will never buy another Taurus!

I have the LCRx in 327 and I have yet to shoot hot 327 Magnum through it. There is another Utuber that had a issue with a LCRx in 327 where the gun sub frames separated while shooting gold dot .327 through it (woah that is you Discrete Defense LOL,) With the traditional LCR there are two screws holding it together one by the hammer shroud and the crane pivot screw. With the LCRx only the crane pivot screw holds the sub frames together. It appears if the crane pivot screw comes lose your gun will separate. The other issue with this is it's an extremely expensive gun for what it is, usually $600 + retail for a metal polymer snub. It's one thing if your firearm has a manufacturing flaw but when it's badly engineered from the drawing board up, manufactured and distributed that's bad business. Don't get me wrong I love my Rugers, but the LCRx I don't know. Only get the LCR if you get one. Discrete Defense do you still have yours? With the utter scarcity and exceptional price gouging of most hand guns chambered in .327 Taurus does provide a option and at price point. I recently got one. It's a chunk of a gun but very good compact size. It feels solid, timing and lock up are good, I have a spare cylinder stop spring and plunger in case of the weak cylinder spring issue with some of the small frame Tauruses. I will say it does not feel like it will fall apart🤣

Try the Ruger SP101 .327 magnum . it will probably eat those Gold Dots for a 100 years or more.

I thought the 605 was the “gem” of Taurus. Have you changed your opinion?

@@markmuch1295 I love how people casually mention to try "this" out you'll love it. This firearm is unobtainable and if you do find one it retails for $900ish. I'll never pay $900 for a sp101 ever! The LCR in. 327 is $600+which for what it is over priced to the hilt $500 is okay maybe $550. I could see that. The Taurus M327 is $370ish. For a mid performing round in a reasonably hard to come by caliber other than hand loading(cases are REALLY really hard to find btw), I'd say skip the drama pomp and circumstance get a 38/357. If you want to go budget compact good quality get a ec9s or lc9s. +P rated 9mm. Mine are ridiculously accurate for what they are higher capacity than revolvers concealable, fantastic trigger, and reliable. I traded my ec9 for an lc9 because I wanted the high viz sights. What a great little shooter! Honestly as far as revolvers the quality of all brands has got increasingly worse accept for Taurus who always balances on marginal. Ive had bad samples from all three major manufacturers. Ruger being the best to deal with. Not impressed with Smith and Wesson customer service at all. Their QC is why I started gambling with Taurus. Why many of my heirloom revolvers are GP's and SP101's. My Taurus small frames are my kick around guns. Great niche since j frames just suck to shoot. My med large frame revolvers are all Smith and Ruger. Taurus nailed a market segment that I like that the other two simply didn't in the small frame. They are value based quality. Not knowing this at this point in history is because you're brand new to firearms or your dumb. Buy them and take a chance or move the fuck down the road. I'm sick of hearing people whining. Based on the absolute rubber spine of the gun community you'll be lucky to own a single action revolver in about two years.

Thanks. That's exactly why I do it. Makes up close seem easier as long distance is basically just shooting a smaller target with way more chances of missing from doing something wrong, so it takes more skill than just shooting small up close.

And double action. Mind blowing.

It is definitely difficult right now. I was fortunate to get one of these 327 LCR revolvers early before 2020 happened. I can honestly say I love it. Right now I'm looking for a 357 revolver in my area for concealed carry but there's nothing available.

The didn't come out and say that they use Enforcer, however I dissected one and saw it was a compressed load and weighed it at 14.0 gr, and I then compared it's appearance to Enforcer and it looked identical. Then right after I looked up Speer's load data for the Gold Dot, first one on the list is Enforcer 13.5 gr compressed load. That's a pretty tell tale sign.

Thanks. Maybe I had an off day with shooting.

Thanks. I like the 85 gr XTP in .32 H&R as well. Regularly pushing 1,000 FPS.

@@GunSam - I'm seriously considering having the cylinder of my .32 S&W Long model 30-1 reamed out .155" to take .32 H&R ... I wound up with a spare cylinder, too, could have it done and then mated to the gun, but just reaming the chambers seems easier and cheaper. Probably never get around to it, LOL, but it's a thought.

I used to, then RU-vid basically said it was "manufacturing ammo" and told everyone, it's not allowed or their channels could be deleted. All the hand loading videos I used to have are gone now. I have a channel on gunstreamer where I load some, just gun sam I think.

I am 42, healthy & fit I carry these the most over my 9mm & 380 ACP 👇🏾 🔷 .32 Long(S&W 31-1 2" snubby) & 🔷 a .32 ACP.(Walther PPK) I don't ever feel under gunned. .

@@selfresponder6043 29 here and I prefer my Beretta Tomcat over most other guns out there and I too dont feel under gunned. That being said, if I ever get an LCP max, that size to capacity ratio may sway me to switch guns. I wish there was a little 10 to 12+ round 32acp pistol similar in size to the LCP max. That would be the perfect carry gun in my opinion.

@@MegaAppleshit how do you like the Tomcat? I've been looking at one in the gun case at my local shop. It's very concealable and I love the tip up barrel concept for the first round but I still haven't made up my mind yet.

@@P.HATHCOX 32acp can be iffy to get a hold of, but the gun itself is probably one of my favorites. The tip up mechanism is a little tighter than videos make it out to be, but isn't difficult by any means. Only gun I carry as frequently as my Tomcat is my NAA mini and Ruger LCP, the LCP is thinner, but the recoil sucks. 32acp out of a Tomcat sounds mean, but is a pussycat and can be fired rather quickly while maintaining accuracy. Only real issue with the Tomcat is that you havre to use loads with less than 130 pounds of energy. Most FMJ is in that ballpark, but a lot of +p hollow point stuff is above that. You Don't want to carry hollow points in 32acp anyway so it isn't much of a loss imo. I carry standard pressure Undrerwood Xtreme Defender loads, they run a good 20lbs under max energy level and are pretty accurate and make neat little Xs when you shoot paper with them.

Thank you.

One might almost think of the 30SC as a rimless 327 fed mag.

Wildey lol. Wildey Magnum, can't remember the caliber.

@@GunSam lol. Thanks

I guess Taurus now make a .327 Mag revolver. But, not for me...Taurus sucks.

@@GunSam How can you say that with all your Taurus experiences over the years? LOL.

@@GunSam I heard about your customer service nightmare with Taurus and your three inch barrel revolver. I used to think Taurus could at least get revolvers right but I'm not so sure anymore. I've seen other stories like yours.

I like 2 and 4 better. But 3 is pretty good, over the top A-team, Commando and Rambo style, right period in time to make 3 the way they did.

Both.

Probably just Gold Dot as that's commercially available.

I bet you could get that lighter projectile to expand better. It's gonna be moving a little faster and if I had to guess, the data will prob say you can load it just a bit warmer without concern for a pressure spike too, making it easier to reach the expansion threshold. Let us know if it works, thanks ✌️

i'm not very well versed in .30 Super Carry as since I didn't buy one yet I don't know it's ballistics fully. From the small info I do know, it's about the same .312" bullet and it's about as powerful as .32 H&R Mag+P or low end .327 Federal, roughly 320 FPE or so in a 3.5" barrel. The .327 can be a lot more powerful, in a 3" revolver like 500 FPE with Gold Dot. All that being said, the .30 Super Carry should penetrate and expand the same as regular 9mm as there's less bullet there to fight the forces wanting to expand it.

@@GunSam Yeah, nominally it's about 347 FPE, and from the testing I've seen, penetrates about 17 inches and expands to about 0.53, all from a 3.5 inch barrel. I do wonder how it would perform out of a 5 inch barrel, as nighthawk customs has a 1911 in 30SC.

I've reloaded the 90 seirras, they shoot really good and expand really well.

@@carlosreyes6448 Thanks for the personal experience, that's helpful!

Can't really see any reasons for that.

I have one, yes it is a big jump in velocity, but that's nothing, I've reloaded 50 grain, Leigh defense I get well over 2100 feet per second from my 4.2 inch revolver.

Wm B - I agree that the 327 isn't as well known as it should be. And I agree that it has had a slow start. But it not only keeps "hanging in there", but it keeps gaining ground. I've been recommending the Ruger LCR in 327 for quite a while now. It is a particularly good choice for new shooters and for women. It is light enough that it's actually likely to get carried, and not left at home. It can shoot 32 S&W short which is an excellent learning round. Some say it's a centerfire 22. I've never made that comparison, but others have. It can shoot 32 S&W long, which is a highly accurate round. When 3 gun bullseye shoots were popular, the 32 S&W long was the king of the "Any centerfire" stage. And, as Gun Sam has previously shown, it's a better cartridge than many think. It can shoot 32 H&R mag, which is a decent EDC in its own right. And when ready, you can shoot full house 327, which approaches 357 performance. Six rounds instead of five. It has so many useful attributes that I think it will continue to gradually gain ground as people start recognizing its capabilities.

@@kirkboswell2575 it might. We will just have to wait, and see.

It was a revolver cartridge introduced in the 21st century. Hard for it to gain traction. I don't think it will go away, but it will probably stay where it's been for awhile.

Checked out some general stats. Seems like a little hotrod round.

@@williambray4134 - Yes. It is.

it's possible, I just never really found the need.

@@GunSam it's an option to note. Nice shooting

Lee doesn't make them. I use the Lee .32 H&R Magnum die set for .327 Federal. It's been established for a long time, that's what you do. More than enough adjustment to load .327 Federal.

@@GunSam thanks for the information

Laughing emoji...when the components are the same price as .38 or 9mm components. Okay buddy, keep laughing to yourself.

@@GunSam Components compsmonents I'm talking about AMMUNITION! I mean why would you be telling people about reloading if the ammo wasn't costly, unavailable, or both?

My .327 with substantially more velocity does more damage to pigs than my .38Spl+P. Just my observations from here on the farm.

@@blackhawk7r221 oh I don't nessesarily dislike it ,but it offers no real advantage over cartridges that are established,they should have lengthened the case about a tenth to push the energy up to where it would generate interest.

@@blackhawk7r221 also the velocity he is getting here is just too low,you can get over 500 ft lbs in that through that short barrel,it is a hot little job cartridge.

I just give my opinion,I am not critical of this channel,he has a good platform and a massive variety of different cartridges he tests,always thumbs up.

@@paulscountry456 I understand. I’m the oddball with the .327 while everyone else out here has a .38 or .357. It was on sale a few years back, so I bit. It was a bit of nostalgia for me since I had a H&R .32 decades ago as a kid.