60MIN ARGUEMENT ABOUT?! | Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Justin Shier & Guy Cisternino | Bro Chat

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Fouad Abiad, Iain Valliere, Justin Shier & Guy Cisternino end up arguing for 60min about this huge topic and eventually come to an agreement...kinda. Bro Chat #105
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00:00 - Marek Health - Use code RBP
01:21 - Into, Iain's tour, flying private, Evan.
15:23 - Arnold Classic talk. Who should do it.
38:35 - Arnold picks.
46:29 - Talking dirty.
50:05 - Lending money.
53:26 - RBP Awards (cameo by Justin and Iain's dogs)
1:17:40 - Guy & women.
1:20:11 - Maxed Out.
1:20:03 - Kevin Samuels
1:34:10 - 60mins of arguing.
2:38:25 - Boxers
2:40:35 - Rapid fire questions.

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@fabledogify Год назад

Love that you guys can have a serious argument, but not let it get too serious to the point that it isn’t fun

@FouadAbiad Год назад

Of course man. At the end of the day that’s what makes the podcast great. We all have different opinions. I don’t think to be friends you all have to think alike.

@johnnyryerson3661 Год назад

@@FouadAbiad 100p this .

@dalelegge_6564 Год назад

100% couldn’t agree more towards the end was a good laugh lol

@matthewchouinard3668 Год назад

Debate not argument! Super fun listening too. team justin and Iain btw

@Despond Год назад

@@FouadAbiad Those are the best friends. It's not shouting or anger, it's PASSION and RESPECT. The next day it's nearly all forgotten! If someone isn't my friend or I don't respect their opinion I don't argue, show passion I just go "Yeah sure, I can see your point of view" or some cliche brush off. I wouldn't even bother debating.

@Think_Carefully_Please Год назад

How is IAIN not the top guy for “Best Ambassador”?! He is legitimately the only top pro who consistently goes on podcasts/interviews no matter what and pours his soul out to fans and gives top notch analysis. I mean the guy gave a fan $50!! Iain is the best ambassador in my eyes and it’s not even close. He gives honest information, never bragged about coaching Chris, and is the most loyal, honest, hardworking guy out there. Fouad, please rethink this!!

@robertgabrielle5956 Год назад

Amen!!! Ian for Ambassador!!!

@lukekondak326 Год назад

They went through that last year! Lol

@metalmike350z Год назад

How can nick be nominated as best ambassador, he doesn't go anywhere. He doesn't talk or engage much. He's rarely at events. He just wants to eat, sleep and train, staying in his house. absolutely nothing wrong with that in itself but Just cause he posts some vids of him working out doesn't mean he's being an ambassador for bodybuilding.

@Morgangodfrey Год назад

Right

@dannyodwyer4215 Год назад

I couldn’t agree more.

@joshuat6698 Год назад

Ian should be an attorney his ability to argue is amazing

@tedfloresisis Год назад

He is able to argue with putting emotions aside and just state facts lol

@lukekondak326 Год назад

I agree he presented his side much better than Fouad! I would have to agree with him!

@LusciousBodybuilding Год назад

Pure logical beast.

@Modifikatorius Год назад

Fuad just doesn't listen when he argue...

@Jimminityjabooboo Год назад

He’s been married for 10 years, he has to be able to argue like an attorney

@sidaarthsharma5356 Год назад

Iain is probably the most eloquent bodybuilder. He is so good at thinking rationally and putting his thoughts in a concise manner

@Blastingpdpees Год назад

@@DG-hq6rc He probably mean's the equivalent of "articulate"

@swolluminatiofficial Год назад

3 hour podcast?! Fouad really came through and said, "Hey man, I know you have an 8 hour work day, but lemme help ya get through half"

@bed-wetter Год назад

An absolute godsend.

@Khanqest Год назад

Bruh 🤣

@Brose_Canseco Год назад

Spot on

@AScaryOrange123 Год назад

So thankful he left in the argument this time. More content is always better, even if it is just a heated argument that goes on for an hour.

@joey5588 Год назад

yessir

@spencershelton2092 Год назад

Favorite part of the argument… Iain finishes his point* Justin: That’s a good argument, Fouad, you can agree w that, right? Fouad: What? Justin: You didn’t listen… Fouad: I’m deleting this whole f’n argument… Thanks for leaving it all in, Fouad! Entertaining AF!😂

@FouadAbiad Год назад

😂😂

@spicyterp Год назад

That disappointment in Justin’s voice when he realized Fouad wasn’t listening to their rebuttal 😂😂😂

@robertgabrielle5956 Год назад

Lol.. heard that!

@FouadAbiad Год назад

😂😂😂

@josiahwilliams6646 Год назад

1. Love how Fouad always gives an outlet for the bros to have some guy time 2. Justin grew so much in his personality and physique 3. Paul is Paul we love you buddy 4. Proud of Guy for running a podcast and still make time for his friends on bro chat 5. Ian’s admirable in many ways but I respect how he stands on for opinion

@gagebrekke9958 Год назад

Don’t you dare disrespect Paul like that! 👿😂

@Ismacobra Год назад

You are wrong, Paul is not Paul, Paul is the Grandpa Smurf🤣

@josiahwilliams6646 Год назад

@@gagebrekke9958lolol

@josiahwilliams6646 Год назад

@@Ismacobrayes he is haha

@target7252 Год назад

Guy, Nick and Jose are more likeable and interesting on Bro Chat, than on their own podcasts. That's a credit to Fouad's ability to bring the best out of people in this format.

@JustArtsCreations Год назад

Its true.. i legit tried to give it a chance but cant get into it.

@C-cf9vl Год назад

Totally agree, but I do like Jose’s podcast.

@christinedaileywalck Год назад

Agree

@1871kwame1 Год назад

Bro Nick is boring !! Doesn’t talk no personality

@akashsingh9822 Год назад

@@1871kwame1 😂true

@nathanaelverduzco91 Год назад

Ian got some real knowledge of how to not be satisfied with greatness. Fouod just because a guy is a monser doesn't mean he has no flaws with what works already. When Mj spoke at Kobe's funeral, he would say how Kobe would reach out and ask him a question about a post up move at 2am in the morning. Maybe Kobe just dropped 50 points and already had 3 championships. Ian definitely won the second half of this discussion. #ohhcanadaheyy?!?

@kath59 Год назад

Iain is 100% correct here. Just because youre the best doesnt mean you cant get better.

@corya3189 Год назад

But it also doesn’t mean you can.

@kath59 Год назад

@@corya3189 this is irrelevant, but your not wrong I guess lol 😂

@mag11930 Год назад

if it ain't broken don't try to fix it.

@dafiro03 Год назад

Melissa’s laugh at Ian’s calves maxing out comment was hilarious!!! You guys should do more couples podcasts and their opinions no one has ever done that before and is amazing context

@C-cf9vl Год назад

Iain & Justin are funny af. Love everything about them. And they always give good commentary/discussion on physiques/shows etc.

@anth2290 Год назад

The argument is because form and style are getting mixed up lol there’s a proper form that’s general for Everyone but style and tempo are all relative.

@alexattardg4s975 Год назад

exactly. best post.

@FouadAbiad Год назад

Yes!

@jiachengxu3395 Год назад

There is an optimal "form"/technique to target a muscle or different regions/divisions (e.g. clavicular/sternal/costal pec or thoracic/lumbar/iliac lat), this is biomechanics. However, the style can individual in the sense that you might not be able to execute it biomechanically perfect due to e.g., mobility issues etc. Sensation can help to tweak a movement or a machine to target different areas (regional hypertrophy), but biomechanics (which inevitably is based on research) is universal for everyone and those rules cannot be changed (i.e., different sensation in different individuals doesn't change "biomechanical rules"). You can actually check the research on rest periods, which is basically more rest is needed for the nervous system to recover to enable maximal mechanical tension (i.e. the stimulus for hypertrophy). But doing more volume with shorter rest periods might compensate for that (e.g. Brad Schoenfelds studies with 1-2 minutes rest but 10-20 hard sets a week). If you rest more, you need fewer sets to reach the threshold of maximal stimulus/mechanical tension for hypertrophy. So in a sense, this might explain why a Jay/Fouad training style might yield similar/good results compared to Dorian/Iain/Justin

@anth2290 Год назад

@@FouadAbiad it’s the same as is it a skill argument. Ronnie and Michael jordan say. Jordan can absolutely form squat just as good as Ronnie but Ronnie could never have the same skill to shoot a fade away jumper. Everyone is confusing the strength and sacrifice with the actual skill. Can jordan front squat 600lbs absolutely not but he’s also not eating 900 grams of carbs and on gear. Can he front squat with the same proper form as Ronnie absolutely that’s it that’s the skill is form not the weight that’s all relative. Does bodybuilding require way more mental toughness and sacrifices and what not absolutely but that’s not skill that’s person driven. Jordan can perform a perfect form deadlift but Ronnie would never be able to have the skill to shoot 90% from the free throw line that’s a way advanced skill.

@rwood1995 Год назад

Guys Ian is talking pure science. 2 identical twins down to the atom . Fed the same diet and and sleep only variable is training . 1 has to be superior even if it’s a small amount

@zachfulkerth8572 Год назад

So many episodes releasing lately, I think I can say for everyone that we're all loving it! Keep up the great work Fouad!

@jacknye4496 Год назад

Please never cut out these hour long discussions. We all learn so much out of this! Thanks so much. Ps no one wins this argument because that’s body building, all about opinions and that’s why we all love it so much 🤟🏻

@megrehmfit Год назад

This definitely got me through the work day. Love it guys! Cheers to hour-long arguments 😂

@cristianramos-moreno4723 Год назад

Great podcast! Y’all always make my day when these episodes drop

@Ricardo-zp6sg Год назад

Iain is the my favorite ambassador, he is smart and always speaks his mind .

@BigBlockEntertainment Год назад

I love how passionate Ian is even if I don't agree with him 100% of the time. He is my Fan Favorite pick!!

@selectiononthewot Год назад

I love how fouad was stumped with the phil health arms analogy so just pretended he didnt hear and said he was going to delete it 😂😂😂😂

@DylanStJames Год назад

3 hour podcast + increased posting frequency. My RBP dream came true 🤩

@justinmcvicker5895 Год назад

This was an awesome debate! You guys kept a smile on my face the whole time! Thank you!

@T0YCHEST Год назад

Blessing us with high frequency podcasting! Hopefully bro chat and bb&b collab podcast soon.

@FouadAbiad Год назад

Click the link www.MAREKHEALTH.com/RBP and *use code 'RBP'* . Make sure you get your bloodwork done! Make sure you optimize your hormones and keep yourself healthy! These are the most important things for longevity and growth!

@Shad0wmar Год назад

It's very random but my name is marek

@majdeddinzerti3490 Год назад

I see so many people use science as unchangeable fact when we have many examples of things was considered facts and today we believe something completely different and that is why there is not optimal way to train and personal experience is a big factor in what is optimal for u and I think ppl should try many training styles and find out through their experience what is optimal

@michaelmelendez4075 Год назад

Fuad if you like Kevin Samuels content, I Highly recommend reading the book the way of the superior man by David Deida. Understanding intergender dynamics in todays world is a really big plus especially if your a young kid looking for some sort of purpose in this world. 💪

@Sk.6789 Год назад

Fouad is such a gaslighter when he argues 😂 argues completely different things than Iain says and puts words in his mouth that he never said 😂

@jordankrenning6188 Год назад

I was thinking the exact same thing! Haha 😂Fouad was just putting words in Iain and Justin’s mouth… it was getting frustrating

@PurseANUL Год назад

Love the heated debate! Shows passion. Thanks for keeping it in Fouad

@robertgabrielle5956 Год назад

Thank you for this one boys!!! Stay safe, strong and God Bless You All!!! 💪🙏

@taekimtk12 Год назад

Love these 4 on a podcast! So entertaining!

@hrishikeshbansode8274 Год назад

Thank you so much for what you do for bodybuilding. I love you guys so much!

@RichardRatner.1972 Год назад

Great podcast, thanks for keeping the 60 mins extra in. Kindest regards, Richard U.K

@calebcruz7084 Год назад

Love the arguments, plz don’t cut them out anymore 🙏

@luigi2854 Год назад

holy shit 3 hour podcast thank you for this blessing boys

@landonpointer_ Год назад

These arguments make this podcast GOLD 😂

@glasslakes Год назад

Love the trascripts: "60 minutes of arguing." 😂

@FouadAbiad Год назад

😂

@daniellebollheimer7310 Год назад

I used Marek health recently for my blood work thank you for the recommendation Fouad! It was extremely helpful because I have struggled finding a doctor that would listen to me and really help me.

@FouadAbiad Год назад

They are the best!

@shehryarmalik5704 Год назад

Let’s goooo made my day. If I see iain on a podcast, I’m clicking

@loganslocum4799 Год назад

Iain and Justin are absolutely correct. They are also not hindering future lifters. They are keeping us safe.

@FouadAbiad Год назад

To some degree for sure. Those that can read between the lines.

@joaredge Год назад

The power of this podcast is getting us to sit through a 60 min argument hahahaha :) Love you guys!!

@kainoavilla6623 Год назад

I’m glad you kept the argument in, it was good to see an informative debate

@BroderickBrodie21 Год назад

Bloody brilliant, tremendous as always. Thank you. Fouad thank you guys. We love listening to you all.

@yousufibrahim884 Год назад

Iain doesn't care whatever Guy says, literally pays no attention to him 😂

@triggtotheer7436 Год назад

Love guy but he’s pretty useless in debates, he will say something and immediately backtrack depending on the reaction

@yousufibrahim884 Год назад

@@triggtotheer7436 lol

@WCamden Год назад

Fouad saying this person was successful so how could it be wrong is one of the most frustrating pointless points ever lol

@FouadAbiad Год назад

The leader sets the tone. You don't look to people who aren't at the top for advice. As humans we look to people with success and try to emulate their strategies. It happens daily in sports, business and everything else. Its how we learn and evolve and its what sets the standard. Success is definitely a measurement that needs to be used.

@WCamden Год назад

@@FouadAbiad the vast majority of coaches in every sport weren't top athletes in those sports including bodybuilding, why do athletes listen to these coaches if they've never been successful themselves, i don't necessarily disagree with your stance but i think arguments from authority are always bad

@Anthony84739 Год назад

Love the arguments, the more content the better 🙏🙏

@olanordmann-ny5gn Год назад

too many good guests on bro chat👍 wish there was 2 episodes a week, still missing Roman, Paul and Jose. thanks for the content Fouad

@bigroncoleman11 Год назад

Respectfully, I’m with Iain and Justin on this one! Greg Pitt once said “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it? Well if it could be better, it’s as good as broken”

@FouadAbiad Год назад

I think he means if it’s already working for you why change it?

@bigroncoleman11 Год назад

@@FouadAbiad It was hard to write it as if Greg was saying it haha but basically he was saying if something could be better then it’s as good as broken. I miss Greg Plitt!! Such a motivational speaker.

@hulk7280 Год назад

Glad you guys finally left the arguments in instead of cutting it out!!

@ieuanvivian675 Год назад

You are spoiling us with these podcasts lately, love it

@shayannvaezzadeh6869 Год назад

The argument is that even CBUM could improve which is why Hany tweaked things in his training and diet Because he was the best doesn’t mean he couldn’t be better

@gustophercokchammer4575 Год назад

So happy to see you guys today, love Justin and Iain and Guy. Guy I'm subscribed to the mutant and the mouth but I gotta catch up on episodes. Best of luck to everyone here. Fouad thanks as always for being awesome and making great content.

@demonwareltd Год назад

Best podcast hands down. Makes my weekly cardio go by so fast. Keep it up guys!

@orbarak123 Год назад

I enjoyed every second of the 60 mins of arguing 😍

@stefanmccrae Год назад

He didn’t win anything but I think Martin Fitzwater had a great season. A breakout if you will. I think he made great improvements to his physique last year and it showed in his placings. Still has a lil more growing to do but I think he’s going to be a force to be reckoned with soon. The guy has made me a believer.

@sjfirkus Год назад

“they’re gonna add more money” literally an hour after this podcast: ARNOLD purse increased to 300k 😂😂

@ironcalibertraining Год назад

Coming from someone who has been training off and on for 7 years total and rediscovered my love and desire for bodybuilding two years ago after some personal life issues. This podcast is one of the best ones. The substance of the debate along with analyzing each point instead of making one big general point really helps people to understand these concepts. Don’t cut stuff like this. People who are always looking to learn love these debates!!!

@jihadmardini2253 Год назад

Legendary debate/argument so glad this was left in.

@ChrisAli Год назад

My favorite crew is Fouad, Paul, Guy, Iain

@Shonicbaum Год назад

Justin’s patience is next level

@MB-bp8gc Год назад

That was great hearing all sides of the argument. I can't believe you've deleted these before!

@canaancrume Год назад

Thank you Fouad and all BC/RBP members

@monkeyman2001able Год назад

Justin looked like he was about too explode this entire podcast lol

@GnarkillAIC Год назад

Yeah everyone likes to talk over him in this one.

@TheActualJesus Год назад

Nothing like waking up to a new podcast upload by Cigarette Roadhead Fouad.

@PurseANUL Год назад

3 HOUR PODCAST! LFG! THANK YOU FOUAD

@ryan_reese Год назад

one of my favorite eps in a while loved the arguement

@akysr20 Год назад

Justin is a legend his humour is epic

@samee7123 Год назад

It's so funny that you guys are talking about not adding money to the winner and giving the other competitors more money and right at this moment Arnold announces that the top prize for open is gonna be 300K, a 100k increase only for the winner 😅

@karlkalauni3321 Год назад

That's 60 min argument debate was absolute Gold ......lol.......

@Built_By_Aztec Год назад

I love that you left the argument!! Best part of the pod!

@rodolfoibarra8756 Год назад

7 weeks out is enough time for Iain to do very well at the Arnold. The guy stays 6% body fat year round. He’s already got more than enough muscle. Small waist, boulder shoulders, exceptional conditioning. He should jump in

@patrickohanlon2391 Год назад

I though the same thing. He was in shape just peaking was off. Should def hop in Arnold's. Also biased since i am a fan of his.

@Brose_Canseco Год назад

Idk man love Iain but I feel like he needs significant rest and analysis of his approach.

@rodolfoibarra8756 Год назад

@@Brose_Canseco no iain can definitely walk on stage today. His approach is to be inside out peeled that was the bad thing he said it himself. They cut sodium and without sodium you can’t load you need water and minerals to load up your muscles with glycogen. Don’t go on that “nerve damage” train that trigily has everyone one. That guy sniff’s Samir old school ass and thinks he knows everything

@westendelite1 Год назад

Can’t wait to hear iain win this argument

@92pittsburgsteelers Год назад

He's not there's dozens of ways to the train

@westendelite1 Год назад

@@92pittsburgsteelers of course. But the guys do a poor job of defining the parameters of their debates. What Justin and Iain are saying here is that by optimizing the control of your input allows them to accurately measure the output. So by standardizing -execution, tempo, rest periods, movement selection etc it can be directly measured into progress by weight on the bar and body weight accrument. And when you have that control a lack of progress is easier to analyze and diagnose. The missing context is that optimal training control (which can still be applied to high volume training) is only one variable in the overall goal of hypertrophy. Diet adherence, drugs, sleep quality, stress control and genetic component of each of those will end up having a way bigger impact on the outcome of a physique. But, like from Justin’s perspective, is that a good enough reason to not optimize your training?

@92pittsburgsteelers Год назад

@@westendelite1 at the end they started explaining better but Ian was trying to say powerlifter all train the same there are literally 15 plus methods just for the big 3 listen to a Guy like matt wenning or bill kazimer or Ed coan talk about training all very different

@westendelite1 Год назад

@@92pittsburgsteelers I’ll definitely agree that iain was a bit inaccurate with that analogy, because there are tons of ways to train for any sport. But execution of your methods can still be optimized. Guys like wenning and ed and say chad Wesley smith might disagree on methods around periodization and even exercise selection but would come together on the nitty gritty of controlling for things like standardizing (your) execution and volume calculation to optimize progression and overload. Even if they would approach it differently.

@92pittsburgsteelers Год назад

@@westendelite1 you're making a whole lot more sense than they were they seem kind of unreasonable with their method

@6shutterproductions Год назад

Great podcast! Glad you left it in. Those conversations are good to hear and informative. Also shows you guys are human, you know? Arguing, getting heated, talking through and resolve. Good shit fouad and company

@daniellascozzi8429 Год назад

That argument was stressful 🤣🤣🤣 what a great podcast. 👍

@retamalesbpr Год назад

Fucking love Iain, for me he is the best ambasador.

@eduardom2119 Год назад

33:26 Lol Guy called it they just raised 1st place to 300k

@comebackcruz Год назад

Can't get enough! Wish it was 5 hours!

@comebackcruz Год назад

Best episodes are these ones man I love this shit so much. Please never edit out these arguments this is everything

@taekimtk12 Год назад

Love how Iain and Justin held their ground and argued with Fouad! I love everyone on the Podcast but sometimes Fouad can be a bully! Lol!

@FouadAbiad Год назад

Yes. I am a bully! 😂. What?! We’re four grown men discussing something we love and all have different opinions.

@taekimtk12 Год назад

If yu re-listen to the podcast I understood what Iain and Justin was saying but yu want to respond with yur view point so badly and prove yu are right yu never really listen to them! I think it is funny! Love yur podcast! Listening since 2020...I have re-watched so many since yu started! Keep them coming Fouad! Yes everyone knows yu are the Boss! Lol!!!

@terable3536 Год назад

safe to assume nick is not coming back

@92pittsburgsteelers Год назад

Forget him it is just as good without him

@soltour87 Год назад

I guarantee he will be back one day. He’s clearly still not happy with Fouad but I think they will sort it out in the future

@T0YCHEST Год назад

He didn't add anything tbh

@Brose_Canseco Год назад

We’ve been safe to assume that for months lol

@FouadAbiad Год назад

I think it’s a good assumption. I have friends here that care about me and like hanging out together. That’s what bro chat is about. It’s not a popularity contest.

@derekmathez5487 Год назад

3 hour pod. Gotta love it

@davidphelan992 Год назад

Loved seeing the "argument" these kind of healthy discussions is what makes the podcast great

@georgeuribe6992 Год назад

Fouad and Guy are literally meatheads while justin and ian actually are progressing in their bodybuilding career.

@FouadAbiad Год назад

No. Guy and Fouad are in their 40’s and have seen many different styles work for many different people.

@tyler4797 Год назад

Episodes like this are great! 😂getting heated!

@bchap77 Год назад

I watched this thing in one sitting. Good job boys!

@edgardoortiz6300 Год назад

The best podcast with these 4 ❤love it

@nehpets2609 Год назад

I love how much you guys argue but agree on the argument 😂

@Noodle51 Год назад

Love the arguments !!🤣

@ryanchapa4899 Год назад

I love that Fouad adding the hour long argument 😂 training always ruffles feathers and I love it.

@regenesis5055 Год назад

Half way in the argument and still excited...incredible how stubborn you guys can be, but I love it! 😄

@getmefitpty2006 4 месяца назад

Watching this argument for probably the sixth time now and still learning something new every time .

@JohnSmith-ow8dz Год назад

Thank you for not deleting the argument. I made it through and took a lot of value from it. Keep up the good work guys!

@mattvanin Год назад

This lineup is the clutch, just made my week 🤟

@aaronwinklmeier Год назад

Ah yes my favourite time of day, new podcast time

@bigroncoleman11 Год назад

The Phil Heath arm workout analogy got ‘em 😅

@dgxchd Год назад

Finally u leave in the arguments! Lol it’s always fun to see u guys argue and then laugh it off like nothing happened hahah it’s amazing lol

@christiantheleviathan3646 Год назад

The arguments need to be left in ALWAYS. So funny

@ryanatherton5846 Год назад

Loved this podcast. Thank you all for this installment. Will subscribe and support this channel forever! Iain is the best!

@jordanporter1280 Год назад

New rbp award, best arguer! You guys should "discuss" next podcast lol.

@matthewbishop9875 Год назад

Literally makes me laugh so much love you guys keep up the great content.

@jasonvidal5956 Год назад

The argument was the best 😂

@coltday4000 Год назад

Give me all the 3 all the bro chats and BBB!! I love it!