A Lot of People’s Favorite Icon That’s Not From Scripture | Derek J Fiedler & Jonathan Pageau

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@garry_wshld 2 года назад

Every orthodox icon with our beloved Christ in the center doing anything is wonderful and captivating, these two including because they are indeed very dense with meaning and it's amazing how people perceive it and marvel in it without complete cognition. It's a true gift from God to be able to love these images. What people call art pales in comparison. These icons don't ask questions, they give answers and feed the soul

@DerekJFiedler 2 года назад

I couldn't love your comment more.

@user-uv9fz5rw4z Год назад

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.

@conantheseptuagenarian3824 2 года назад

"Each of the sentences I write is trying to say the whole thing over and over again; it is as though they were all simply views of one object seen from different angles." - Wittgenstein

@DerekJFiedler 2 года назад

Glad you selected this part of the discussion for the clips channel. Jonathan gives some amazing insights here. He is at his best when describing the deeper meaning of icons.

@NavelOrangeGazer 2 года назад

It's not a coincidence that around the time the Roman see left the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church the western church shifted focus away from the resurrection and towards on Christ's suffering on the cross. Extremely bloody crucifixes and such.

@kevinzalac8945 2 года назад

Icons are not pictures snap shots or historical at all. The ‘if we approach it that way’ comment is just….a staggering level of ignorance that is not this dudes fault. It’s a symptom of how sophisticated the modern world leads us to believe we are. When really. We are fools. Very educated fools.

@MicahMicahel 2 года назад

photography has created this way of thinking, I think. There's an illusion of reality being recorded best by a photo. It's made our minds more literal. Look at old magazines before photography was easily reproduced. We've lost a visual richness through photography. Look at a common car magazine for instance. Old magazines up to the 1980s we're full of cartoon imagery and wild imaginings. the typical person was more sophisticated with imagery before photography completely took over illustration. It also gave us the idea that there was nothing else to record.

@DerekJFiedler 2 года назад

@@MicahMicahel great point. You described the modern condition well. My questions were definitely playing a role here trying to draw a deeper analysis from Pageau and helping people of all sorts have eyes to see.

@ibrodirka6628 2 года назад

I like the ones where Christ is pulling Adam and Eve out of a dragons mouth.

@parker.simmons4 2 года назад

I find it really cool in this image how Christ is pulling adam and eve out by their wrist! I believe that is emphasizing how Christ is pulling all of the weight. Adam and Eve must completely rely on Christ rather than using even a little bit of their control with their hands.

@eg6370 2 года назад

Jesus Christ cleansed and forgave the original sin that the serpent was part of. Making the world Gods and not formed by the devil🥳🎉🙌🙌🙌✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼💯💯💯

@PauperPeccator 2 года назад

Yeah its the exact image I get! Christ plunging like an arrow right into the abyss only to go right past it and ascend into the infinite. As he dies in the cross, darkness envelopes the background and all that is left is the crucified Lord, but soon He’s traveling at warp-speed back to His Glory. Nothing is beyond his reach. I guess G.K. Chesterton had in a sense described this icon to me.

@ryanhawkos 2 года назад

I wish someone would animate this just like JP talks about at the end

@Cyrus_II 2 года назад

You see animated montages of this kind but usually they're just a random string of old paintings with no real narrative. You could tell a great story using icons and that kind of animation. Like this video: watch?v=-j1G5NmQQ8U You can see how the figures move in the still image. With more effort you can make it even more animated. The issue with this one and the likes of it is that like I said there's no narrative. Just a mishmash nostalgia trip. You can basically tell a story from genesis to revelation using eastern iconography with this kind of technique but it takes a lot of effort and creativity.