Maybe if he wasn't so upfront with being insubordinate to Deathsaurus from the start. Deathsaurus wasn't going to tolerate backstabbing schemers and nipped that attitude in the bud.
@@SaffronicSaffron It worked for Zarak. But Leozack did get kinda cocksure in front of Deathsaurus, the last person you want to trifle with. I'm not going to say he deserved it but he certainly brought it upon himself.
I’m a Decepticon (Destron) Emperor myself, and I’m 44 feet tall in robot mode. So if Deathsaurus is 50 feet tall in his robot mode, I’m six feet shorter than him. But I’m also three times as powerful, I wield *eleven copies* of the Matrix.
Interesting how Leozack's voice gets higher and softer when he's addressing Deathsaurus than when he's bossing around the Breastforce or fighting the Autobots. On the other hand, Hellbat usually has the same polite, cloyingly sweet speech patterns around everybody. Another reflection of G1 Megatron and Starscream is how, like Megatron before him, Deathsaurus speaks like a gruff old man. Generally, in China and Japan, Megatron is perceived as an old warlord while Starscream is perceived as a young upstart chafing at being bossed around by an older generation. The boomer vs the millennial, if you will. Since there's not just a power difference but an age difference between them, the relationship between Megatron and Starscream, or Deathsaurus and Leozack, changes to a twisted form of mentorship.
Why does that remind me of this one novel of WWII a view in machinegun company…? 😅 …possibly because of the similar chemistry between soldier and officer (except in the book the commanding officer was young, and the soldier was a veteran who adressed his superior in unmilitaristic manner (something like leaving ”sir” or ”herr kapitain”, and instead saying ”hey you, gimmie that submaccie!”))
@@Rubywing4 How old Starscream is compared to Megatron in American-made TF media varies. However, when the series was dubbed overseas, few could replicate Chris Latta's shrill falsetto. As a result, the Japanese dub simply gave Starscream a tenor voice and made him sarcastically polite toward Megatron. The Chinese dub also gave Starscream a young tenor voice (but still a male voice, unlike Bumblebee who was dubbed by a woman). This contributed to Starscream being perceived as rather young.
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I truly feel like they nailed how terrifyingly strong Deathsaurus is in Victory. Compared to Megatron/Galvatron, Scorponok and Devil Z, he has such presence. Not only is he extremely strong but he’s competent and ruthless as a decepticon leader should be. Not only that, Takeshi Aono does an amazing job voicing him. I firmly believe this was his best role.
Megatron/Galvatron had a 'mess with me if you dare' aura while Deathsaurus is a 'don't even try to mess with me'. Zarak was nothing more than a competent Starscream, with all that entails.
I do want to point out that Scorponok/Zarak was such a breath of fresh air compared to Galvatron who was reduced to a lunatic. He was actually intelligent and accomplished a lot. And Devil Z?...he was forgettable. Boring.
@@xenon333 Zarak's problem was he was a great leader in a very boring show, and reduced to an inconsequential big bad guy in the next. Were Headmasters and Masterforce less of a slog, most likely he would have had more staying power.
I came to check this out the moment the notification came out to see what's this going to be about. Now that I've seen the video, I can say that the title is a very accurate description of what this was about.
Yup. Leozack tried to be a Starscream but wasn't as brave. Yes, that's right, brave. Starscream may have been cowardly but he was always brave enough to try again. After Deathsaurus put Leozack in his place he was never insubordinate again.
That's true Starscream isn't afraid to backtalk or badmouth Megatron , while Leozack keeps it to himself or makes sure he isn't in earshot of Deathsaurus.
Deathsaurus treats everyone fairly. He won’t tolerate any failure even if that person is his favourite subject. All would be subjected to the same punishment. Even Hellbat himself got into the wrong end of his leader’s wrath once and was punished for his failure. That what I like about his leadership is that he doesn’t micromanage.
I almost feel bad for Leozack. The bastard hasn't shown any desire to betray Dezarus, but each defeat, in the emporer's eyes, feels like a deception. Gets a thrashing that makes Galvatron's behaviour tame in comparison.
He did plot to undermine him once, and that was it. The hint seems to be that after that failure non of the other cons took him seriously enough to back such a plan.
Oh he definitely wants to replace the Emperor and sometimes says so to characters like Hellbat. He's just smart enough to not constantly scream about it to the Imperious Leader's face.
@@tsm688 Given how Dezarus is a lot less forgiving than Megatron, if he had anybody minions who acted like Starscream he would have ripped their heads off.
I feel so sorry for this blue green doofus. This has the dark twisted undertones of an abusive relationship. Right down to the praising you one minute and then beating your A$$ the next. When dezaras/deathsaurus grabbed his face I felt that one.
Somewhat accurate Comparison Megatron -Hates Optimus, but does team up with him at times (If left with no choice) -Abuses Starscream - Most of the time, for understandable sh**s and giggles. Sometimes as a supposed “Stress-ball” - But rarely ever kills him for “obvious reasons” (Similar for Optimus, but for war reasons) -Does at least respect some of his ‘Cons (Soundwave, Shockwave, and Laserbeak - One of Soundwave’s.. umm… Cassetticons? -) Galvatron -A mentally insane b*tch -Reformatted into that one guy from Star Trek and back into Frank Welker for some reason -Crush. Kill. Destroy -Because Starscream is dead, he abuses pretty much the E for EVERYONE rating (Actually I mean, Rated EEFS for Everyone *EXCEPT* for Soundwave) -Once tried to be taken into Therapy but failed disastrously Deathsaurus -Basically a Mecha version of Kim Jong Un -Was “birthed” to be an asshole -Is a very shitty leader compared to Megatron -Hates EBMILZ for EVERYONE but *MOST IMPORTANTLY* Leozack so much for no reason besides existing -Abuses his ‘Cons so much that even they wonder how kind of a leader Star Saber is, compared to their so-called “Leader”
@@emperorkumquat hey can you look up the RID megatron stretch and maybe draw what his vehicle mode might be he was supposed to be some kind of jet and it would help me out a lot
Leozack is pretty much Starscream of Victory, aside from the fact that he's the leader of a team that can combine into a bigger robot. Also in the dub version, Deathsaurus is more direct about how he feels about Leozack's incompetence in certain scenes (like when Leozack tells him about a new plan he says "You say that every time, Leozack! So what is it this time, huh?").
3:36 Deathsaurus: This is your last chance, Leozack! I've been waiting the whole month, so you shouldn't try to fail me! You must find me the greatest source of energy on this planet! Leozack: Of course! I won't fail your, Emperor! (Deathsaurus eyes glows menacingly) Deathsaurus: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT! Do you know, how much times do you already failed me?! Leozack: Aaaahhh... - ACK! (Deathsaurus graves his head and lifting him) Deathsaurus: MORE TIMES, THEN I CAN COUNT ON MY FINGETIPS, THAT'S HOW MUCH!!! Leozack: BUT I PROMISS YOU!! Deathsaurus: (throwing away Leozack) I'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE! Leozack: But, just once! Deathsaurus: Consider this well, Leozack: either do you succeed in your next mission, OR i'LL HAVE YOUR HEAD AS MY TROPHY!!! (Hellbat appears) Hellbat: Emperor, i bring news! Deathsaurus: Hellbat, if this is a bad news, i'll kill you! Hellbat: Better than ever! (He hoppes over Leozack) Hellbat: Now listen! (He whispers to Deathsaurus) Leozack: That treacherous cyber-weasel! Scum! Deathsaurus: Ohh, is that so?! (Several minutes later: Hellbat dancing in the hallway) Hellbat: Oh, joy, i've made Deathsaurus happy! I hope he'll give me a great reward! Leozack: HERE'S YOUR REWARD!!! (Start punching Hellbat) Hellbat: OUCH! WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! Leozack: SHUT UP!! Now talk, what you're up to?! Hellbat: DON'T HURT ME! Leozack: ARE YOU LOOKING TO TAKE MY PLACE?! Hellbat: (desperately avoids been shishckobobbed by Leozack) NO, OFF COURCE NOT! Leozack: THEN WHAT?! Hellbat: I was only doing my job! Leozack: LIAR!!! (Knocks Hellbat to the ground) Now talk, what are you whispering him! Hellbat: I was only told him, that you've send me on the recon mission, and i found the most greatest source of energy on this planet! Leozack: That's it? Hellbat: Of course it is! Emperor is wery pleased with you! (Leozack in tears. What a sob!)
Feels like something TV-Nihon would do. They had a habit of leaving some words untranslated because they were fucking weeaboos of highest order. Toku fans in particular hated their subs, there was one episode of Sentai where a villain says "What are you doing there, fools?" but TV-N left it as " What are doing there, obaka-chan tachi?".
I like to imagine in one of the endless alternate Transformers universes, Deathcobra *did* replace Hellbat as part of Liokaiser. But instead of being demoted to cleaning the halls or kicked out completely, he gets repositioned as Deathsaurus's snitch, reporting everything he discovers of remote interest directly to him.
It would give Leozack something even more in common with Starscream; both face against an evil, abusive boss they wish to overthrow while also dealing with his snitch right-hand man (which Soundwave was for Megatron).
Emperor kumquat I was sick for a few days and randomly came across one of your videos in my RU-vid feed and iv been binging your videos keep up the good work I am now watching transformers prime I had forgotten how much I loved transformers as a kid thanks 🙏
Japan invented some of the original toys. Americans - Bob Budiansky in particular -- turned them into characters. Bob wrote and named nearly all the originals (and fought for the name Megatron when Hasbro thought it was too scary). Without him there'd be no Starscream, and probably no Leo either.
2:31 Deathsaurus: YOU INCOPETENT IDIOT! How could you continue to fail me everytime?! How much longer i must wait for any results?! ANSWER! (Leozack babbles some nonsense, until:) Deathsaurus: I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! Leozack: Y-yes, Emperor! I've already prepare my new plan to destroy them! Deathsaurus: You've always said that, Leozack, and everytime is the same thing! I'm getting really bored with you! So, what now? Leozack: Oh, you don't need to be worry, Emperor! The Autobots fate has been sealed, and soon you'll be master of the Universe! Deathsaurus: I WANT RESULTS, NOT EMPTY BRAGGS!! NOW GET GOING!!! Leozack: Y-YES SIR!!! (Leozack stormes off the chamber, but after the doors closed:) Leozack: What's that hysterical parrot thinks, he's doing?! One day, he'll call me the Emperor, and then i'll show him! Just you wait! You hear me?! (Leozack kicks the bust of Deathsaurus, but the bust landed on him) Leozack: OUCH!!!
Making things worse, Leozack only plotted to undermine Deathsaurus once, and Deathsaurus treats him like crap anyways. And Deathsaurus spends a majority of episodes sitting on his throne barking orders at his underlings while berating them for their failures when he can't be bothered to help them most of the time. It's a wonder Leozack didn't plot against him more often, though the implication seems to be that the rest of the cons are too scarred to support any plans against their boss. Knowing Hellbat he is way too intimidated by Deathsaurus to even consider usurping him. Also this isn't even the worst thing Deathsaurus did to his troops. In the finale he abandoned his idiot minions the Dinoforce for no good reason other than because he felt like being a jerk.
It was a tactical decision; he got away clean with all the energy he wanted. But shelling the planet while they're still on it was beyond the pale, and what made them rebel.
0:16 Deathsaurus: WORTHLESS IDIOTS! You've completely ruined my whole plan! If he wouldn't succeed, we've would be bathing in energy! And now, that you've failed, YOU'VE RETURNED TO ME EMPTYHANDED! Even if we would have a tiny piece of advantage, your incopetence always fawled up the whole plan and leave us emptyhanded! Leozack: B-but, Emperor, you're the one, who underestimate your opponent! You didn't know, they could combine into Victory Saber --- (Deathsaurus suddenly snatches Leozack's face and lifted off the ground) Deathsaurus: DON'T YOU DARE POINT YOUR FOLLIES ON ME!!! I don't have time to listen to your pathetic excuse! Leozack: Ughh.. I... Understand! Deathsaurus: And furthermore, Leozack, if you wanna talk to me like that, you could just once complete a succesfull mission without bungling it! Leozack: P-please... forgive me! Drillhorn: Forgive him, Your Majesty! (Deathsaurus calms down, then drops Leozack and walks to his throne) Deathsaurus: Listen cearfully, you scumbags of the universe, and take heed: you must destroy Victory Saber at any costs! I want only Victory for the Great Decepticon Empire, DO I MAKE MYSELF LOUD AND CLEAR!? Breastforce: (Standing straight) YES SIR!!!
He does conspire against him, for a while. Deathsaurus is aware of this and chooses to ignore it... Until one day he knocks him flat out and forces him to confess. They made an arc of it, instead of making him a Starscream who betrays every single day, gets beaten every single day, and inexplicably forgiven every single day.
I'm going to record my English voice based on the English dub voice actor voice together with the English subtitles and to match actual English-speaking lines the character speaking
Hey chief nice vid as always, i was wondering however if you could give a link to your discord server since when i found the community post you made about it the invite was already out of date :)
@@kornkixassman eh idk I feel like there are equal because Optimus prime has the knowledge and, strength, starsaber has the skill and talent and also some wisdom but then again I haven’t watched victory, I’ve only seen some clips of starsaber destroying the fortress and desirous and stuff but again can u recommend some platform or website or something where I can watch the entire show because it seems so cool and I love starsaber and victory Leo’s design I’m so happy the new toy is fully funded now