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Alpine Type R Restoration and Re Cone 

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Mr M completes his final Alpine type r rebuild video on a legendary 15" SWR 1542d. Super Rare.
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@Investorharry
@Investorharry Месяц назад
Hey bro I need ur help. You helped me revive my subwoofers before! I have this type X that needs fixing!!
@SS-sw8de
@SS-sw8de Год назад
I've been considering trying this out the type s...
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
type s 15 voicecoils are not as easy to source.. i’m sure they are available, but might take a bit more looking around than the type r ones
@Tekjive
@Tekjive 3 года назад
Great vid bro, looking for some blown Alpine’s Type-Xs I can recone myself, heard they use diff size spiders but up for a challenge and to learn. Really dig the salvaging of all the stock Alpine parts, I much prefer that as well, not really into mixing baskets/surrounds, etc like most do.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
Thanks!! Several times I’ve bought the closest spider size slightly larger and just trimmed the outside edge down until the replacements fit the seat. Type X are significantly more difficult than type R. The type x has a plastic truss style cone that you cannot use solvent on and limited heating. That Makes breakdown extremely difficult
@tomkzinti2760
@tomkzinti2760 3 года назад
Subbed. Good vocabulary, precise, little rambling on but that's OK. I do that too. I saved my last Type R 12 that rocked and tore spider-to-cone connections wide open after I was playing 'er wide open in a "sealed" box that decided to blow apart with no warning. *sigh* If I ever recone it, I'll have the grand honour of rocking three subs at the same time, for the first time. The Type R 12 in a custom built (to fit allotted space) ported bandpass box, a Sundown SA-10 V1 in a prefab slot-port Amazon box that's been crossbraced internally and soaked in up to about 2 ounces of thin CA glue, And a Sundown SA-8 V3 in a sealed prefab box with stacked plywood baffles (mounting depth issues), inverted. Because...chrome magnet. Why wouldn't you? The SA-8 purchase was, I believe the very very last $60 Yard Sale item available from Sundown Audio, cuz the next day they were gone and they haven't been back since. So...that's how it is...that is how it be is. Truly. Memento mori, que sera sera, carpe diem, carpe noctem and most of all, caveat emptor. Mofo's be out jackin' fools for real. Don't be that fool.
@95Sn95
@95Sn95 Год назад
One time I put some blue tape on a black coil to mark it where I didn't have a silver sharpie to set the depth and I for got to remove it so I get the spider all glued down and I see some blue tape peeking out and I used way more tape than I needed, so I get that instant regret feeling weighing my options of prob be ok it'll stink for a bit yada yada but I couldn't leave it in there. It was a sundown tooled frame so there was no good access to the coil and it was 7 slugs so really in there deep, but Fortunately I had drilled some pretty big gap vents and with a pick and an hour I got it all out... Felt pretty dumb.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
i’ll bet. i have not left any masking tape on a coil yet
@bobbymcdaniel5163
@bobbymcdaniel5163 2 года назад
Can an Audiopipe 12in. Txx blue eye candy be re built? Or do they sell a drop in kit for them anywhere? Don't need to be the blue aluminum look either. The dust cover sperated from the coil but coil still works. Will not throw out even if I can't fix. Brother gave it to me before he passed and Im looking to bring back some memories. Please help, thanks
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Can you contact me on Instagram? Easier to chat there
@Rico.907
@Rico.907 4 месяца назад
I got a alpine swr-1043d 10" and it needs a new surround. I looked at lord of bass and saw theres a "big roll" and "tall roll" surround. What should i get?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 4 месяца назад
i prefer tall roll on my type r rebuilds
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr 4 месяца назад
I have a Type R that makes noise when I turn on the power. I thought it might be the defective coil, but it doesn't scrape. Could there be a problem with the cone or the spiders? Have you ever seen anything similar?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 4 месяца назад
there are lots of potential causes of noise. can you describe it for me?
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr 4 месяца назад
@@MrM_Full-Send It makes a noise, as if there was some plastic or something loose inside it. The coil doesn't scrape, I don't think that's the problem
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 4 месяца назад
@@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr there are a couple possible places. it would be unusual but the spider flange could be rattling against the basket...or Less of a plastic sound but common with type r, the surround sometimes separates from the basket.
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr
@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr 4 месяца назад
@@MrM_Full-Send I'm thinking about taking it apart and putting it back together again, checking the possible defects you told me about and seeing if it works normally. I hope it resolves. Thanks a lot for the help!
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 4 месяца назад
@@GabrielFlorian-hn6nr before you pull it apart. free air test it with a sine wave, if you can then try to locate the source. sometimes you don’t need to do a complete breakdown. could save yourself some work
@Ron-Webster
@Ron-Webster 2 года назад
First video I pulled up on your channel was the audio frog rebuild and you did a wonderful job. I just subscribed to your channel I learn as I go also and I've rebuilt a few subs myself. Your rebuilds will possibly give me more ideas.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Thank you!! I sometimes take an unorthodox approach but have had lots of success!! I hope you can find some useful
@Ron-Webster
@Ron-Webster 2 года назад
I've done a rebuild on a 12" alpine type r and it was a pain but I ordered new spiders and new coil and fixed it and sold is and made a buddy of mine super happy it was a 1st gen.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
I love building type r’s😅. Mostly because they were the subs I learned to rebuild on.
@JuneCalderon-i8h
@JuneCalderon-i8h Год назад
Hey i have 2 12inch alpine type R . Can you please help for info for a website to order the coils. Thanks!
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
I order from lord of bass. if you have any questions you can hmu on instagram
@jorgeortega6430
@jorgeortega6430 2 года назад
Where do u get the coils? Im having a hard time finding them bass of the lord doesnt seem to have them for there alpine but in 12s
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Which type r? What is the model number
@woofervision673
@woofervision673 3 года назад
Thanks for posting this video. I have two swr 1522s that I just tore down. I would really like to do a custom rebuild on these, not sure what to do about the spider situation though, mine have cracks and are very brittle so not sure how Im going to go about installing new spiders since it has that goofy spider spacer ring. Other than that, it seems like using standard softparts on these would not be a problem. I know psi has built a set of these 15s before and they said they built a custom spider ring in the listing (they also went with a single spider) , im just hesitant to start buying parts because this is my first custom rebuild, ive always reconed using drop in kits. Anyways, sorry for the long winded post, but glad to see someone out there keeping these subs in service. I loved mine and used them for many years, and was at least the third owner of my set.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
The last 3 type r 10’s I did were full custom with new everything. I had to trim the outside of the spiders down to seat in the ring flange or whatever it’s called. Also custom leads to align with the push terminals. I posted a video “the triplets”
@woofervision673
@woofervision673 3 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send i actually skimmed that video i will make sure to go back and watch it thru when i have the time. How did they end up performing after the rebuild? Thanks for the reply and advice btw
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
@@woofervision673 well. They haven’t been put into active use yet.. unfortunately I was unable to find replacement voice coils that matched the OEM, so I made some… will see how they go.
@woofervision673
@woofervision673 3 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send are these the 2 or the 2.58 inch coil model (the tens). Mine have the 2.58s which supposedly lord of bass and springfield speaker have direct replacements for. Did these end up not fitting in your application. Im not sure about winding a coil, thats probably too advanced for me. Sorry for all the questions but really do appreciate the responses ive been wanting to put these subs back in service for years
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
@@woofervision673 the ones I made are for the older series 2” ones. I’ve used many of the 2.58” from LofB as well as a few from Springfield. The only issue is the pigtails are on opposite sides so you need to wrap the pigtails around the former to reach the leads
@101769able
@101769able Год назад
Some people should not make videos.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
❤️😘
@rockypalacios2494
@rockypalacios2494 2 года назад
Looks great you did a great job I hope I can do almost as well
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
You can!!
@adrisanc
@adrisanc Год назад
Mr. M thank you for your informative videos man, def giving us the motivation needed to rebuild these bad boys! Question.. would you recommend doing a full rebuild on the 12’s with new cone and dust cap? Or keep the stock look and just do spiders and coil? I see Springfield has the coil replacement kit. I’ve got mine all tore down, only thing is I don’t know what to use to separate the coil from the cone, I’ve used goo gone professional strength, just not sure if that’s safe to do for this.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
ahh… ca glue is a nightmare. i’ve got a video on removing fried coils, i torch the former (from the inside) until the glue starts smoking. usually will just fall off after you go all the way around. alternatively i use a soldering iron to burn the CA. use eye protection and do in well ventilated space… the smoke is real bad… i try to re-use whatever i can to mitigate cost and maintain OEM. i’ve done a couple full replacement that turned out really nice… it’s all about what you are trying to achieve i guess… i’ve never used a springfield kit. their coils are good but more expensive than lord of bass
@hotshotcharlie4619
@hotshotcharlie4619 11 месяцев назад
Do you habe a shop cause i just blew 1 of my r's
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 11 месяцев назад
I work out of my garage
@hotshotcharlie4619
@hotshotcharlie4619 10 месяцев назад
@@MrM_Full-Send how do I contact you?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 10 месяцев назад
@@hotshotcharlie4619 info@gsaindustries.ca
@bobbyhorton4034
@bobbyhorton4034 2 года назад
Where do you have go to source the parts? I'f I wanted to rebuild a sub. I'm sure there are authorized dealers in my area, but if I can get shipped to me directly that would be preferable. Thanks!
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Lord of bass is where I get most of the parts I use
@okiedokie3845
@okiedokie3845 2 месяца назад
Anyone know where I can find parts to rebuild my type r 15?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 месяца назад
@@okiedokie3845 nobody carries coils with long enough formers anymore. used to be able to get them from PSI but he doesn’t really do single unit sales anymore
@okiedokie3845
@okiedokie3845 2 месяца назад
@MrM_Full-Send thanks. That's what I was worried about but $80 for the sub in a box was to cheap to pass on. Really may just need the surround but not sure yet.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 месяца назад
@@okiedokie3845 if the coil is good, then your options improve considerably.
@okiedokie3845
@okiedokie3845 2 месяца назад
@MrM_Full-Send coils good I believe. Looks like just need to do surround.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 месяца назад
@@okiedokie3845 might be easier to replace the cone ands surround as one unit 🤷‍♂️. either way it’s doable. check springfield speaker repair for both surround and cone, LofB for Cones, they may also have surround but less options. maybe look at simply speakers as well
@jeffallen6937
@jeffallen6937 9 месяцев назад
Your abilities blow my mind. Salvaging the soft parts - the ciol of course requires technique and knowledge.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 9 месяцев назад
Thank you! This was the last 15” type R i was able to fix due to coils being no longer available 😥
@donniegray2288
@donniegray2288 8 месяцев назад
I’ve got an alpine type r 8’ and where the cone connects it’s came loose.I can’t find a recone kit anywhere do they even make a recone kit for the type r 8’?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 8 месяцев назад
not to my knowledge. you would probably need to order individual parts and piece it together yourself
@isaiahramcharitar3722
@isaiahramcharitar3722 Год назад
What’s the kit called
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
no kit. i ordered parts from lord of bass and fixmyspeaker (PSI) and built the cone assembly. i can’t remember if i did the spiders🤔
@rockypalacios2494
@rockypalacios2494 2 года назад
How much would u charge To recone If I paid shipping to and from u
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Depends on what needs to be done. If it’s just a voice coil I could probably do one for under 100cnd if it’s a full soft parts replacement it would be 175cdn. That being said I cannot get certain parts right now so full softpart replacement will be slow until parts are back in stock.
@rockypalacios2494
@rockypalacios2494 2 года назад
Where'd you get the coil from I got two Alpine type r 15 inch subs I got to recoil
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Normally I would use lord of bass but their formers are too short for 15’s… I got the one for the 15 from fixmyspeaker
@chiko3557
@chiko3557 2 года назад
How u put the last part?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
The dust cap? There is just a bead of e-6000 around the perimeter. I ran the beed of glue then dropped the dust cap onto the cone and put a weight on it for 24 hrs
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 2 года назад
Hey I have 2 Alpine 12s that need recone or new coils. Can I send u the cones with spider and u fix and send back , how much
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
They need new coils? What condition are the cones and spiders in?
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 2 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send everything is mint , but the one subs is frozen and the other coil is slinky . I was going to rebuild but seems like a delicate process and I don't have the tools. I was thinking to just mail in cones with coil attached and let u do your majic. Save money on shipping since don't got to send basket's
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
@@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 do you have Instagram? Bit easier to talk there with messenger?
@scottmx6
@scottmx6 Год назад
I have a 12 inch Alpine type s the plastic around the spider is lose and it make a popping noise is there a way to tighten it up?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
loose on the basket? if the spider ring is lifting, you just need to tighten the 5 bolts that hold it to the basket.
@scottmx6
@scottmx6 Год назад
Thanks for replying but it didn't have any bolts it was glued down believe it or not and had came lose I took it apart and epoxy it and it's working fine now.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
@@scottmx6 sorry… i missed the type s part 😬
@magno408_1
@magno408_1 2 года назад
What generation is the swr 1242d?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
2nd I believe
@wtfngarage2082
@wtfngarage2082 2 года назад
i have but the cones bad came off the coil
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
You can replace cones with aftermarket cones
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 3 года назад
How do u remove the type r dust cap. Can u do a video. I have 2 type 12 I need to rebuild
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
Which generation?
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266
@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 3 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send gen 2 , the same one in this video. Thanksn
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
@@zenlifeserenesoundsforrela1266 you need to bend the cone away slightly so you can get an exacto knife blade to the glue. There is a high risk of failure due to either over bending the cone subsequently weakening it or potentially cutting through it. If done properly the blade can be moved around the dust cap cutting all of the glue. Gently applying heat can help considerably
@b4real100
@b4real100 2 года назад
Where are you located?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Vancouver bc Canada
@mallorycainjr.1921
@mallorycainjr.1921 2 года назад
Hey man just stumbled upon your video a friend of mine gave me a type SWR 14 and I wondered where you get all the parts from? Will I be able to find a cone for these? And the spider and the coil?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
SWR15? They are possible to rebuild. I got the voice coil from fixmyspeaker.com and everything else from lord of bass
@mallorycainjr.1921
@mallorycainjr.1921 2 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send is there any particular parts I need to look for? Like a certain size spider, coil size, or the size of the surround?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
@@mallorycainjr.1921 yes. All are specific especially on the 15. I will put a list together. Do you have Instagram? Easier to communicate there.
@amydaudier3327
@amydaudier3327 3 года назад
Can I get ur email ? I have two subs I would like u to repair both alpine type R’s 12’ and 15’ also if we were to get a same size coil as the 15 like a kicker L7 coil can we Frankenstein it ??
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
Projectpaperchaserecords@gmail.com
@ah4800
@ah4800 2 года назад
Bet he got that ca glue at canadian tire
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
The rubber reinforced black Starbond is directly from starbond and the clear CA is from Home Depot 😊
@ah4800
@ah4800 2 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send i just picked up the same stuff to make some fiberglass a pillars. Where in canada are you
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
@@ah4800 I am in Vancouver.
@ah4800
@ah4800 2 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send nice. Only the rich and famous can afford to live there. Im in saskatchewan.
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
@@ah4800 and the extremely broke… 🤣..
@pbrown9965
@pbrown9965 2 года назад
I have these subwoofers I would like to know where did you purchase the voice coil to fit them
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
15” type r I got from fixmyspeaker 2.58” ID. 12” type r you can get 2.58” from lord of bass
@pbrown9965
@pbrown9965 2 года назад
@@MrM_Full-Send thank you very much I'll check it out
@thompson2514
@thompson2514 Год назад
​@Mr M I'm having a hard time sourcing a coil for an alpine type S sws-15d4 , do they run the same coil as the type r ? , thank you in advance
@jayavarmandiaz4251
@jayavarmandiaz4251 Год назад
Hi sir. Im from Philippines i have alpine type R 15" can i order recone kit for alpine?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send Год назад
No. You need to order parts and build the cone assembly yourself
@dannyrichards2175
@dannyrichards2175 3 года назад
Why not just buy a new sub?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 3 года назад
Well that’s certainly an option. Also need to consider people’s budget. To rebuild This one, it cost less than half of what a new sub of the same performance would cost… it’s often cheaper to recone than replace. Kinda like buying a new car because it got a flat tire. This is an obvious exaggeration but you get the idea. Normally, for myself anyways, I run custom subs designed and built by me to preform according to my goals.
@iNeed2DeleteYouTube
@iNeed2DeleteYouTube 2 года назад
Hey bro, would it be possible to hire you to fix a sub for me?
@MrM_Full-Send
@MrM_Full-Send 2 года назад
Where are you located? You can dm me on Instagram
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