Analysing 'All My Broken Pieces', 'Cindy Watts', Part 1 

Great video! Thank you for your work. My entire family is represented in the videos about covert narcissists, mothers who don't/can't mind their own business and can't keep their mouths shut (no matter what), and God knows what else, and I'm just giving up. LoL. Yes, the "extensions of themselves" is right on the money.

I could listen to you all day.

@@saffybee1503 Aw thank you! 😊

@@melindac3368 Thank you! 🙂 Yes, giving up any involvement in the drama and the inappropriateness sounds like a good plan!

@@LiveAbuseFree everything you say, it makes so much sense in a world of madness. Yet there is no malice what so ever. absolutely love your channel ♥️

Johnna perfect 👌

Exactly!

Truth!

Oh that is a perfect title! 👏👍

Great 👍🏻

Yes, let's all run out and buy a narc bully murderers mothers book .....NOT

Love your comment. Spot on!

Sherry Davison you're so funny haha and so original - seeing as you paste this same comment on almost every video that is about SR/CW. You can disagree with someone's personality or habits etc but victim shaming and victim hating is really lacking in taste.

@@sherryannedavison4369 it looks by your comment as though cutting down a murdered women somehow gives your day fulfillment. My guess is that you aren't a very happy person your self and it makes you feel better to take jabs at others. Before you rip apart another person perhaps you ought to look inside your own soul, examine your own heart, look at your current life then take a hard look back at your past. Think of your lifes decisions. Past and present. Take a good look at your self. THEN decide if it's really helpful for you to cut others down instead of dealing with your own junk. Just a thought.

@@sherryannedavison4369 my maiden name is Jenny Aldrich. Find me on Facebook, I live in Idaho. Then call me fat. I've competed, and won, in National Physique Committee (NPC) bikini competitions since 2011. I've been training in the gym for 13 years and I LOVE it. 🙂😊 your comment and response to my comment speak for themselves and paint quite a picture of your own character. Enjoy your, clearly, happy life . 😍

And an exposé of herself, the author. Cindy is apparently unaware of this !? Unaware of how her words make her look. Almost seems also like a defense of herself. Detailing her sequence of thoughts. It ends up being very revealing. If she didn’t like her daughter in law, ok. Wouldn’t a book be better written on the lovely grandchildren, a memorial of their young lives?

Yes indeed. I think she has revealed just how her son grew up to be the person he did, with a mother like this.@@m.h.6499

U are Exactly right!! She DID NOT LOVE CELESTE..BECAUSE SHE WAS JUST LIKE SHANANN..EVERYONE SAID CELESTE HAD HER MOTHERS WHOLE PERSONALITY AND BELLA WAS EXACTLY LIKE CHRIS! WHEN THIS DISGUSTING WOMAN TALKS ABOUT THE GIRLS U CAN CLEARLY TELL SHE FAVORS BELLA BECAUSE SHE HAD CHRISS PERSONALITY..DISGUSTING VILE WOMAN🤢😡

That woman comes across as fake as her son.

Seriously!! How scary is that...yikes.

Shy M I have come to understand that the Watts family will never understand.

Shy M Not her babies Those babies!!! Leave your wife, fine but just walk away!!!!!

@@amills9261 they Will go to hell if they stay cold hearted

@j Chegs why?

Lisa Matonis This. She is incomprehensible and loves the fact that Shanann can’t speak anymore.

Poor Shanann never did anything wrong

She's toxic for sure!

She is an awful woman who raised an evil son.

She is some kind of sick mommy who could not stand another woman taking her baby boy away from her. I have seen this before. It is not pretty. No wonder so many men get all screwed up by their needy mommy’s.

Oh yes, her son is a BIG BIG "VICTIM"; this is SICK, SICK, SICK.

I think they deserve more blame than they’re getting. What’s up with the note his sister had about blaming Shanann if anything happened to Chris? They new before Shanann visited that Chris had a new girlfriend. That’s why their behavior was so flagrant.

@@reallymariah894 I didn't know they knew about Nicole before Shannan visited. The more I learn, the more despicable they become in my eyes.

@@joannivaldi2106 Yes, I thought they would pen the book together. What normal family would side with the side chick. I guess the same kind that would refuse to attend weddings and funerals. smdh

@@reallymariah894 who gave Chris the Oxycodin?

@@joannivaldi2106 you could tell they knew in the interrogation room she he told his dad that he told her about the separation, his father didn't blink! They knewcthey are disgusting!!!

Snort😖

😂😂😂

LOL!!!

Omg she's speaking ill of the dead! Even if she felt it in her heart of hearts, my God you don't publish a book about it, especially after your son brutally murdered her! What a witch... Explains a lot as to why CW is a sociopath.

Great stuff.

It's enough to see the way she flips her tongue, exactly like a venomous black mamba. Absolutely horrible monster mother of such son.

Just out of curiosity, when you say that Cindy Watts is “ a controlling batshit crazy narcissist”, what exactly are you basing your opinion on?

I noticed that too. His dad knew exactly what Chris was talking about. Chris was doing his own fair share of oversharing.

That stood out to me too! I believe they knew.

​@@squirt2702they knew he was having an affair. And they were hopeful it would succeed because they hated Shannan and they wanted a new family from scratch

Yes watts played the parents against Shanann and Shanann against his parents

They did know. He told them the week he went back to North california, and told them he was leaving shannan. That's why Cindy thought shannan had left to punish him when she was missing. I strongly believe his family provided him that oxy thing to try to make her miscarriage.

Gigi S you nailed it...🎯🎯🎯

@Listen Linda Your first two lines say all there is to say under the circumstances, Linda! "Most humans would be just shattered. The End." To come away from this unspeakable event, writing a book about anything that goes beyond sorrow and shame and sadness and regret (at least from the perspective of Cindy Watts) is nothing but an invitation to view her in an even harsher, unlikable light. Whatever her objective, she has neither the poise, or the emotional integrity to change anyone's mind about who she is, what she is, and the psychological role she played as the woman who raised this callous murderer.

Do we really want to hear what she has to say ? Great analysis

jlnriddick bingo

Jessica TACKETT That is true. ... maybe it’s both 🙄 who knows

I agree 100% I think that was an early example of Chris Watts' manipulation of his mother and Shanann, fanning the flames of conflict between them. He knew his mother and he knew damn fine she would be shocked that Shanann's ring cost so much. And I think that was what really angered Cindy - not only that her son had paid for it (and we cannot be sure that Shanann didn't contribute, go halves or even buy it herself), but the simple fact that Shanann wanted - and got - such a special and valuable engagement ring. Cindy is so self centred I bet she immediately mentally compared it to her own more humble engagement ring, and was livid because it was worth only a fraction of Shanann's fabulous rock. Cindy showed early on she was very competitive with Shanann, and horribly resentful of her achievements. Shanann's mother Sandy recalled Cindy's reaction when she attended the engagement party Shanann hosted, and first saw the house she had bought and lived in after her divorce. Sandy said Cindy was obviously taken aback at how nice the house was, and that it clearly irked her, and made her feel resentful that her daughter-in-law to be, owned such a comfortable, stylish home. Her son Chris owned no property. Indeed Cindy was so irritated by Shanann's home owner status, that she made a bitchy remark to Sandy along the lines of "I understand your daughter is divorced?" To which she replied: "Yes - like your daughter". Even more shocking, Cindy actually told Sandy that she was not convinced Shanann was in love with her son! Who says a thing like that - and at their engagement party too?!

Spot on!

100% CORRECT!!!! Chris knew EXACTLY what he was doing... better yet, I believe he enjoyed the turmoil.

omg good catch, for some reason i think of Chris as slow or something, he just doesn't seem all there, but yeah you're right, i found it odd that he told her the price of the ring immediately but never put it together

I am sorry I disagree, I feel that the ring could have been cheap and then his mother would have made the comments that Chris didn’t “really” want to marry Shannan, because if he did he would have bought her a nicer more expensive ring. Cindy is self centered, selfish, insecure, jealous, and abusive. Everything Shannan was not, there was nothing that Shannan could have done to impress this woman. I honestly think that Chris was so completely Co-dependent that he really couldn’t be away from Shannan for that period of time and then was terrified of telling Shannan the truth. The truest thing he said to detectives was he never planned to tell Shannan.

It’s easy to say all of the things that you would or would not have done, when you’re not in that situation! The parents of those who commit such evil acts are ALWAYS picked apart and blamed. I’m not sure if thats because of the need to understand why someone so seemingly normal on the outside could do what they’ve done, but it seems to me that people just can’t wrap their head around the fact that some people are just evil! I think in the effort to make sense out of something so horrible, people begin picking apart the parents because there just has to be a reason why someone like Chris Watts was capable of doing what he ultimately did, right?! At the end of the day, Chris Watts murdered his wife and children, not his parents! Even in a court of law, being abused physically, mentally, or sexually, is not a justification to commit murder.

Cindy is such an evil witch that she hated Shan'ann so much that she didn't even care that her grandkids were murdered; they were part of Shan'ann so they judt didnt really matter. Parents aren't usually responsible for the evil their kids do, but in this case if Cindy had died in a car wreck when Chris was a baby or toddler, Shan'ann, Bella, & Cici would still be alive.

​@@jessicawilkerson6294parents of Killers are not picked apart unless they open their mouths the way this lady did. I don't remember Ted Bundy's mother writing a book defending her son or Scott Peterson's mother bashing Laci so much. This is why they are bashing her and what makes this case so particular. Usually, we focus more on the killer, not his parents, specially if they don't try to shine

​@@southbug27not really. Chris was a lot like his mom, regardless. He has an affair and was so self-centred as to think that people would understand his need to start from scratch. The mother has a special kind of narcissism dubbed Medea's syndrome or so. They use kids in order to harm the other person. In this case, she's treating the poor girls like the elephant in the living room at best for two reasons A)their deaths tears their narrative apart. Shannan was not the emmasculating monster they portray her to be and Chris didn't snap. He killed them because he wanted to start again and they were an inconvenience B) because they are not a pawn any more. They cannot try to have a custody battle, as quixotic as it could be, for the girls with Shannan's parents, they can't hope for the girls to turn 18 and try to rekindle the relation with their father and them, they can't play the victim saying that they are turning the girls against them........and also, he son can't make a new batch of grandkids with a woman they approve on because he's in jail. They have to live with the opprobrium of being the parents of a family killer and that Shannan, in a twisted way of thinking, has "won"

I agree. She seems extremely jealous of Shannan....even in death!!! Its like shes trying to convince the rest of the world that Shannan was a bad person!!!!!! Opening her mouth was the biggest mistake she ever made. The more she says the more she exposes her nasty, vile self. Shannan is dead, she died brutally at the hands of her son. NOTHING she says now or ever will make it any less disgusting. And yes, she says nothing about those 2 beautiful grand daughters..shes hideous..

I KNOW!!!! When he started that sniffling and fake crying, I almost puked. What a sorry excuse for a human being 🤕

It was so obvious...cry on cue. He can't fake grief very well.

She is OBSESSED with Shannan. Everyone’s OCD in this case is almost too much to believe.

She's pure evil

It's a year later. Just curious, is your son still with the terrible woman? My daughter is 21 and I despise her bf. She knows this, but beyond that, I'm basically civil. Not because I'm so refined, but because I know the rule, the more you hate them, the more your kid will dig in! So I'm just wondering how the situation with your son has progressed. By the way, I don't just not like him. I don't have to like him- he's her bf, not mine. The problem is that he ONLY cares about himself. He is extremely selfish to the point that he actually puts her in danger. He drives around drunk and on weed, has wrecked several cars. He got my daughter ambushed by his trashy ex- not on purpose, but he knew how she was and put my daughter in that situation and she wasn't even 18 years old at the time, then never even apologized to me. Let's see, they were sitting in the car outside his friends house and got robbed at gunpoint. I literally fear for my daughter's life every day that he is a part of it. So it's not just a matter of me not liking him. I sense that you also have serious concerns about how this woman's relationship with your son can really take his life in a very negative direction. It's crazy how Cindy just didn't like Shanaan- because she had the nerve to try to recruit Cindy to help her in getting Chris to grow up and be a legitimate adult. How could Shanaan have ever guessed that suggesting that Chris had faults would make Cindy hate her forever. Normally, we want our kids to choose mates who want them to grow. Shanaan thought enough of Chris to try. Oh, poor Shanaan, they were so mismatched from the start. If only he would've met that homewrecker trash first. They could've been very happy together, and Shanaan could have found a man as drivin, mature, loving, and hard working as she was.

@@poutinedream5066 It isn't your business unless your daughter is a minor and/or confides in you. It isn't our business and you don't have the right to blast her personal information on the internet. If you want to talk about it tell a therapist or write it in your diary. Your entire comment is problematic and it actually does have Cindy Watts vibe. This comment is not to insult you, I would just hope you examine what you're written. If you think I'm wrong that's your decision but nothing wrong with pondering it.

@@yourinnerlawyer4035 Do you have children? Doesn't sound like it. Generally speaking, moms don't consider their children "none of their business" the minute they turn 18. If you don't have grown children that you worry about, please don't judge me. You have no idea what you would do in a given situation until you actually are in that situation.

@Gilberts Grape Great. Sounds like you knocked it out the park. I wish them well- not that anyone asked me to wish them well. I'm doing it anyway.

I wonder what she thought “the right thing” is?

I don’t feel it should be about winning and losing but just people having a mutual respect and tolerance. Nothing wrong in having an opinion within a family but don’t expect everyone to agree and act on it.

And she stood no chance being held captive by her husband who killed her and her babies!

@Dana Davison I saw a pic of Shan and Jami Watts together. Jami's ok but I didn't even look at her standing beside Shan . That's why she hates her, bet her husband said how hot Shan was. I always look at blondes unless a chick like Shan comes along. I know that's really sexist but I'm telling the truth and my buds all agree. Anyways, I guarantee you that's why she hated Shan bcuz she stole the limelight without all that makeup. No dude would eva say Shan wasnt a 10.

SHE'S HORRIBLE!

@@thatgirl81111 with Cindy it was about winning!

Lol. "That Bitch Had It Coming" by Cindy Watts

@@cee-emm lol it only hurts when we laugh

Yep!

I feel kinda bad for laughing really hard about both titles...

@@cee-emm yep!

haa yeppp

Good! 😀

Get away from poisonous people, and you will be cured! Lol

Isnt freedom wonderful.

@@marleneg7794 Yes it certainly is. My mother was a narc. I never thought I'd be this happy! Blessings to you ❤️

Oh man you are so lucky. Mine just does it over and over again and keeps tricking me into thinking shes improved herself when she never fails to turn into a nightmare again and tries to pick explosive fights with me.

Apple don’t fall far from the tree!

Stacie Mayer it is definitely Cindy who is evil here, but I don’t find it unreasonable to be so concerned your son is marrying someone within weeks of meeting and spending $12,000 on a ring. I personally would find that a huge mistake as well and would be super concerned if my son was ever in that situation. As evil as Cindy is, she was right to have concerns about money as look how they ended up, about to lose their super expensive house. I don’t think how Cindy reacted was that out of line to be honest, it was a stupid mistake on her sons part and most people would call their son out on spending $12,000 on an engagement ring for someone they had been with a couple of weeks.

Stacie Mayer - This woman is CAT 5 crazy

Cindys brat CW which she raised killed 3 human beings - well done Cindy "Dumbarse" Watts - you are a role model parent and your actions helped shape a murdering asshole!

@@georgestobbart4894 That's balderdash. It has been extensively established that the one child was allergic to nuts. BUT EVEN IF THAT WERE NOT OBJECTIVELY TRUE, their MOTHER said that the child WAS, and that should be GOOD ENOUGH for any sane, normal, rational human being, including the child's grandmother. Back off, narc.

Yes that was odd.

She choked em ??? His emotion upon learning his grandkids were murdered was not NORMAL

I know! Crazy. No emotion whatsoever from either of them

I knew an alternate universe of Chris Watts apology existed, but never saw it firsthand--until I stumbled upon it under a video that was far from it. A woman posted, outlining all the ways in which Shannan and Chris were both narcissists and harmed each other, that the abuse "went both ways." And all I could think was "Well, Shannan didn't kill her husband. She didn't kill her two young daughters. Hell, she didn't form a whole other relationship with a love interest, ready to abandon her husband and family! Even if there was an ounce of validity in what you're saying, once three (four) brutal murders occurred, the 'both ways' theory flew out the window." The insanity!

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Who is blaming a victim for her own death???? insanity

@@vanessalutz9740 Lots of jealous women. They say terrible things about Shanann, her appearance, her mothering skills, etc etc. There are whole groups dedicated to blaming her for her own death. It makes me sick! And there’s nothing anyone can do about it. The family has tried getting the pages removed to no avail.

@@vanessalutz9740 I've seen a lot of people blaming her for being 'bossy'/emasculating him (mostly men) and because she put their lives online with the MLM...I don't agree with MLMs and wouldn't want to be filmed all the time, but thats hardly cause for murder.

Spot on no boundaries ❤🥰

Very well said. Not good form, unless she wants the public’s approval, but it will backfire. It is not behaving with dignity. This Abuse-Free presentation, as usual, is excellent.

Lee Devitt Well said. She is fully showing is who she is and how she operates and how CW became as he is. Her behavior and distortions are Abusive. Beyond Abusive. Entirely destructive. I pray she is stopped from causing more harm...

I couldn't agree more!

Lee Devitt Where has she tried to redeem herself? She is still demonising Shan’ann

Georgia Amanatides But What is he raising the money for on his GoFundMe? That’s important information to know before judging him

Yes, I thought that too of her repeated 'I love you's when she was supposed to be doing a victim impact statement-very inappropriate and beyond that!

Absolutely, Cindy and Ronnie Watts' supposed 'Victim Impact Statement' was a sham and revealed utter contempt for the victims! I thought the Rzucek family showed remarkable restraint throughout their insensitive tribute to their killer son - I'd have launched myself at Cindy and wrung her scrawny neck before she got to "We forgive you son".

I felt more sick when she said “we forgive you son” how was any of that a victim impact statement then ? If she forgives the person who killed the babies! She’s disgusting and should not have been allowed to write a victim impact statement. I noticed she couldn’t even say the meaningful part, her brief had to say all that, I think she had been advised that it needed to be said .

helen clayton great observation! I didn’t notice that point but you’re completely right. That aide/lady had to read that part while his awful parents looked to the floor. Then they couldn’t wait to declare their adoration, love and forgiveness to their scumbag son.

@@LiveAbuseFree I still cannot believe the court approved her victim impact statement -- I thought it is required that they are reviewed beforehand to assure the statement falls within the guidelines stipulated by the court. I cannot believe still, that the judge let her go on and on, very shocking and inappropriate.

Yeah, domineering aggressive controlling abusive mother, and weak spine-lacking father.

Yes. Those people defending her and saying she played no part and holds no blame..... If nothing else, the things she said after the deaths occurred are indefensible and wicked. No one asked her to pipe up and be a bitch. She did that naturally because that's how she has always treated Shanann.... She would never have done it otherwise.

@@cheshirecat888 and who in their right minds, in the face of all this carnage and 3 dead grandchildren would befriend the mistress like Ronnie Cindy and Jamie have. Poor Shan, she had no idea this family was batshit nuts. I know there's a professional term for that diagnosis but that's my take on it.

@@nobodyspecial8127 have they befriended her?? Bloody hell. Their behaviour is well past shocking!

Cheshire Cat I didn’t know that either! Low life people. Soulless people

Wow, I couldn't agree more. Well said!!!!

The narcissist always tries to spin things to try to control the narrative. It is very important to Cindy that the public view her in a good light. She knows that she messed up her kid and that is why she is so paranoid that people might see behind her mask. Narcissists will even kill people to maintain the integrity of their mask. From day one, it was apparent in her interviews that Cindy's main concern was to convince people that Chris murdered his family because Shanann was a controlling person. Cindy was actually describing her own flaws (narcissists always point out their own flaws as flaws of others and the term is "Projection"). No normal person with mature emotions would be explaining the murder of their daughter and law and young grandkids as an expected thing because the daughter in law was flawed. A normal grandmother would be in tears. Cindy defended her son only because she felt she had to in order to defend herself and her family. The Watt's family saga would make a great Ph.D or masters thesis for a psychology student studying narcissism and narcissism family dynamics and abuse.

Rebecca McEvoy it's hard to believe that she's been been busy writing this drivel. Bitching about his ring expenditures while the fact remains that her son killed her three grandchildren. I just can't wrap my head around it.

“Dark, dark fire”. Wow. Quite insightful on your part.

Rebecca McEvoy absolutely 👍

They werent welcome after they tried to throw her a kitchen tea and shannon didnt appreciate any of it

@@abimol3802 yikes! You’re defending this witch? Says a lot about you. You can relate to Cindy, I suppose. Most likely you’re a narcissist yourself.

Nikki Lea Spot on

Always, that is why I left home at 14 years old by spending as much time as possible at my friends house then on my own. I was the 7th of 9 kids and I saw how she used my older siblings as cash cows or abused them. She was easier on me but, I knew that would change and she would want my financial support eventually, even though I usually paid for anything I wanted from babysitting money I made during the summer.

Yep

Aaron722076 I’ve heard that many times but if that’s true, why do most narc parents want to destroy their children’s lives then? Is it all about control? That I don’t understand, it’s so evil.

This hit me so hard

It's not really about being good enough for Christopher. It's about being good enough for HER!

Maybe she had twisted fantasies about him.

Maybe hil clinton lol

Except her 😂😂😂

@@StrawberryFields4ever65 only cindy watts is good enough for her son.

Yes!

Vindicating herself while passively hurting the in laws. That’s heaven for a narcissistic mother! She can always claim that she means no harm. But her own words condemn her.

Shannan dying didn't quell Cindy's hatred. That will follow her to the grave. Since she can't hurt Shannan in the flesh, what has she got left except to destroy her reputation post mortem. Her writing style is way too "wordy".... Typical sociopathic trait. She was the grand puppeteer in that family.

"Scratching my head wondering why this stuff still matters to her." Yes yes yes EXACTLY!! It blows my mind really. What a disgusting person she is, my goodness.

So this book may someday be included in a psychology course covering narcissistic personality disorder.

Exactly...well said!

C M lol great comment!

That's right, CM!

Perfectly put 🙌🏻

I don’t think CW would have told her how much he spent on the ring unless he was asked by Cindy.

Oh I bet she saw this. Hi Cindy!

Chris finally saw the light is what the psycho mother said after the kids weere murdered.

Grim Reaper he can still get married in prison

@@noeldee9236 That's no fun? how's he supposed to kill her?

Shivers I’m just stating he can still be a locked up husband lol

She is in control of sending her freak son an extra 20.00 for cake and sardines. What a great mom Cindy thinks she is. 🐷

Apparently Chris had picked his dad up at the airport and they drove to the police station together. I suspect he told his dad some or all of the story on the drive and they might have concocted what they were going to say, as this is when he confesses to his dad that Shanann killed the children.

@@mrsb3650 😧

That's a good point! I've never given him a second thought, poor bloke! 😀

Or her first husband. Can't believe we haven't heard from him.

Layla W - you HAVE to be a submissive male in that family!😤

🤣🤣🤣 he’s the only in-law she will ever have now so hope she wakes up lol or he’s gonna have an interesting time of it 😂😂

j Chegs very interesting thoughts I’ve had a few like that also. There is something up with the whole family, that’s for sure. Ronnie being quiet doesn’t make him a saint... lol Jamie either lol

Elle W. She was also a chronically ill women bringing up her children while also being the main bread winner in the household. She was a bit of a Superwoman in my view

She was ! We all see that

They hated her without cause. Jesus was too, He even said so. And He told us they would hate us too My in-laws and my husbands adult children pretty much hate me too. I’ve done nothing to warrant it. But the mother is a narcissistic mean old woman. I am not included in family functions often and when I am, my husbands ex is there as well. I was told by his brother that my narc husband is and has been sleeping with the ex since we’ve been married. Sick people. He filed for divorce in secret on me not long ago and promised for 5 weeks to dismiss it. He finally did lying all along the way. He had already had the lawyer in Nov 2019 and filed MONTHS later in Aug 2020...watching me and bedding me the whole time. I felt and continue to feel betrayed. Coming up...my turn. Collecting evidence of lying and setting myself up. Evil people in the world.

She was too forgiving and it killed her. Good women like this always get the bad end of the stick. horrible.

I didn’t even know her and i live in florida. I feel so sad . There she is her mother in law is still holding hateful toward her. unbelievable

Yes!

Claire. It’s coincidental you say that because I felt sick to my stomach looking at her face in the video.

On point

😂 🤣

Thank you! 🤗

oh thank you! 😊

She wasnt allowed to. When she first met Shannon, Shannon tried to play some joke about how old she was. Shannon moved them away from the family and banned the Watts from even phoning the girls.

@@mariechapman7626 she reflects to everyone who she really is. What is dwelling inside of her is very dark.

I agree with you. Not one bit of compassion shown by Cindy.

Michele Agren how someone from the R family did not lunge across the courtroom is beyond me... the Watts’ need some serious help.

@Penny Red yeah that's literally......the whole video? Cindy has NPD

Totally agree. None of us are perfect. We are a forgiving people but when one doesn’t come hat in hand with recognition of the wrongdoing- we lose our mind marbles lol You hit the nail on the head.

Jan P thank you 😊

Yes, but he's the quiet, scary type! With Cindy Watts, you know what you're getting, but Mr. Christopher... he's a whole new ball game. He is a master manipulator and pretender...and to me, THAT just scares the daylights out of me.😱

I think he was just a dangerous shallow idiot.

I thought the same thing disturbing 🥰❤

I think that this book explains very clearly why and how everything happened.

Some healthy mothers know their offspring are autonomous adults who can and ought to think for themselves and make their own way in the world, including in their love lives.

See that thing about the ring I think she was jealous that it was such an expensive and beautiful ring.

Only unstable mother's would hold on too their offspring like that, it's not healthy & rather creepy.

Only mothers who haven't got anything else in their life to focus on. Most parents realise their offspring's shortcomings and love them regardless, and hope that someone else will love them regardless. Unhealthy parents refuse to acknowledge this

I say that I am glad God blessed me with sons, because if I had daughters there literally would have been no one good enough for them. :)

One reason is she loathed Shanann so much she had minimised her health issues and treated her with scorn and derision and that the allergies and illness was just Shanann drama and not true. That said - she doesn't seem fussed those lovely girls were murdered and stuffed in the oil barrels - so why would she care about a peanut allergy?

Your assessment is spot on, and the progression is undeniably clear. CW's mother's disregard for CeCe's life by setting tree nuts out on the coffee table and side tables and in the ice cream, that all the other kids could have except CeCe, that was more than just passive-aggressive needling of Shan'ann. By doing that, Cindy Watts blessed her son with her tacit permission to harm 'those girls'. She shined her light on the path she wanted him to follow. Cindy Watts literally, actually, physically telegraphed her overt desire to see harm come to helpless children of her own relation. Her demonstration of her own attempt to endanger her own grandchildren didn't go unnoticed by Chris. Cindy Watts endangering Celeste was more than just another family squabble where Chris was too much of a wuss to go against his mum. To the contrary, in his desire to please his mother, Chris Watts simply finished what Cindy Watts started. It was one thing for Cindy Watts to hate Shan'ann. Once she displayed to her the world her hatred of Shan'ann and Chris's babies, her son had nothing left to show for his life (in his mommy's eyes) and did what he thought he could get away with in an effort to start over. Chris Watts' familicide would have multiple happy effects for him besides clearing the way for his relationship with his mistress: unbounded public and private sympathy for him, no lingering financial obligations, and after a long 8 years in the wilderness of his marriage to a woman she despised, finally pleasing his mother.

@@RRonco I agree. He texted Shannan saying he will have a word with his mother and putting the kids in harms way was not ok, but like cindy he was just wearing a mask , pretending to care for the welfare of the children. Metaphorically, the whole watts family threw their grandchildren/nieces in those tanks and Nico in the grave tbh.

@@j9andphoenix I can't believe the channels I have found on You Tube that are basely solely on the idea that Shanann had Munschausen's By Proxy. So mean spirited. And what proof do they have? That is actually very difficult to diagnose when you know someone well and have a lot of close access to them. They do it from their armchair.

Yes, look at what a nut allergy did to Amy May Shead; she was told her dish was safe and she did not have an epi pen with her. Her whole life changed because of the restaurant's negligence.

Well she needs to make sure people get it's not her fault right 🙄

Carrie Sue - Never would be too soon!

JVS 1 😘

Carrie Sue Well lets hope she spends her money wisely.. unlike her daughter in law.. as she said was high maintenance. The grin on her face is disturbing, just like her son.

Cindy didn’t write the book, someone else wrote and cindys name to draw attention for sells. My opinion.

Damn good point!!!

Poor ME, ME, ME..

Absolutely! Says it all.

Her broken pieces made her Son Chris Watts broken

Probably because you are a normal empathetic human being unlike cindy.

wow really

What a cold thing to say.

I'll bet his parents dislike of Shannan played into his twisted plan. As in. . .they will not mind if she comes up "missing."

@@dr.watson8251 and his mom had recently toyed with killing CeCe by placing bowls of nuts around her house and serving nuts to the other children in ice cream. If that wasn't tacit approval or even a subliminal suggestion, I'll eat my hat!

When I got pregnant with my second child, my mother in law’s first response was,” This is your last one right?” Monster in laws are the worst. Boundaries are the only way to deal with it.

Yes well said!! So sad what she had to deal with the last few years of her life. Nightmare mother in law.

I have thought the same thing almost from the beginning!!! Chris even said something during his confession to his dad that exemplifies this point quite well. He said "Mom always said Shanann was evil" (what kind of mother tells her son that his wife is evil???? ). He just used this hateful behavior to justify and excuse his crime against her. I find it utterly disgusting 🤢

True.

Hope you’re able to get passed that. My mom the same. When I graduated from jr college she said, “Can’t people take a test and get 2 years college credit?”

Really Mariah I’m still working through it ;) many blessings to you as well

Conscious Community I’m sorry about your experience. I understand and have been there. Good thing we GET to create a new story and can choose to leave them behind

Now here is somebody who should write a book. It would be amazing to read all about your experiences and what you learned from them.

Yes, I agree, and she was pointedly explaining that it has nothing to do with her, because she has this incredible relationship with the others. Thank you! 😊

@Big Red H ha ha, came here to see if someone commented on that one, Yes! That sentence 6:32 that ends "generously shares time with their children and themselves with us." I read as: ...and Shanann and Chris DID NOT. For which of course Shanann is to be blamed more than Chris, as well. Also "beloved very nice son in law." I could THROW UP. My mom is not as narcisstistic as Cindy, but enough that I certainly get all of that messaging LOUD and CLEAR. As sick as it all is, your comment made me so happy. I'm guessing you know what it's like to live with people like that. I love it when other people see the narcissistic hidden meanings clear as day. I think it helps all of us to keep our eye on the truth and trust in our hearts when we feel a Cindy is getting crazy-making with our perceptions. Keep on keeping on, sweeties! ❤️💕💞

@@JW-vd4il oh yes, her contempt isn't very well hidden and you're also correct in your assumption! My mother was very good as dishing out "compliments" which were thinly veiled insults at others. I'm not sure if you've ever watched The Sopranos? His mother Liv was so much like mine that it was shocking! I read a bit more online re: this leaked book and I have to say... it doesn't get much better. It's very much still how Chris was a normal but quiet child and Shannan was too open in discussing personal things and how Shannan dared to email her to tell her what she thought of her. 🙄 No where in the 4 chapters thus far does it talk about what a horrendous thing her son did. So disturbing.

True.

She old mother watts,and that crazy daughter of hers,prune jamie lyn, vile disgusting 🤢

True

Shanann was jealous of Cindy because only Shanann was for Chris the true "mother".

“Mommy Dearest” was already used ; )

Stephanie Roberts And the stupid woman wonders why Shanann had issues with her???

Good! thank you for sharing! I have btw!

@@LiveAbuseFree thank you for your frank and open response.

​@@LiveAbuseFreeyou are extremely unfair and condescending. Too bad you didn't look into who Shannon really was.

Totally agree, she should have gone on her knees to Shananns family and BEGGED for forgiveness.... utterly disgusting behaviour...

I can understand her saying she forgives her son, but what really bothered me was her speech on Chris not receiving the death penalty. She should have thanked Shanann's family for their grace. While we all know Chris is evil, a mother will always love her child

right? keep that shit for when you phone him in jail

Completely agree, when she was reading her statement she was saying she loved him and she forgives him. I thought it was so out of place, like I feel rage for Shannon's family

Bingo!!

She’s a mean spirited human.

Jennifer Anne Koller Lol 😂. Yup!

Caterina Scarcella She certainly is.

Laura R Barrow 😂. Thank you. I think we’re all on he same page with regards to Cindy Watts.

In everyone's opinion!