Chris Watt's Feb 2019 interview: A Message From The Rzuceks 

Live Abuse Free oh hush. It’s a lovely video. 💕 Thank you for all you do.

@@kerrib2568 thank you! :)

J. Adkin

You such a therapeutic way of conveying your messages. Thanks for talking about the Rzucek's, they have such class and like you pointed out, they are very classy and loving ppl who provided a lot of love and affection to their children in the crucial part of their developm, thus their children were (and are) able to easily reciprocate it back. Your point about how this case has not only instilled a lot of pain but also awareness is so true. I've questioned if I may have some narcissistic behavior and have actually discussed it in therapy. Can't wait until your next video!!!

What a wonderful message you put out here. TY. I pray for them daily especially Frankie

I so agree with you. I feel bad for all of them, and I love this message. It doesn't mean that I in any way support Chris Watts, but something happened to him. We do need to break the abusive cycle in families. Recognizing it isn't that easy for me.

Totally! And we all know how much narcs loathe empaths. Video idea, how to repel narcs when an empath.

yes, Sandy and the family are so faithful and loving

Aw thank you so much! :)

@@LiveAbuseFree -- You're welcome.

That is so true. When his parents got interviewed they just tried to use Shannon to excuse his behaviour while Shannon's parents you never hear blaming him or point their finger.

Yes, CM

True, the conduct of the Watts family - murderer Chris Watts and his parents Cindy and Ronnie - has been truly appalling throughout. Decent parents would have thrown themselves at the Rzucek's feet, paying tribute to the victims while apologising and expressing shame and disgust at their son's crimes. The Watts have done the very opposite, victim-blaming Shanann and paying tribute to their son, the murderer. But then, if the Watts were the sort of people to behave decently, with compassion for the victims and regret for their son's crimes, perhaps they would not have raised a murderer in the first place.

@@glamdolly30 very good point

@@global2765 Rzuceks didn't have anything bad to say about Chris because Chris, played his role well. I really wish I knew his emotional intelligence, test scores.. Actually, I would love to see allllllllllllll of his Intelligence TEst!

Not always. I’ve seen kids with the nicest parents, chose to go down an extremely wrong path. God loved us by sacrificing Himself for us, but we still chose to disobey Him and go down our own thorny, painful paths no matter how much “love” he gave us.

@@user-hx7mi7ml8u you don't know what went on behind closed doors so don't be so quick to absolve parents

​@user-hx7mi7ml8u Load of nonsense. What proof of this sky daddy do you have ?

It took me thirty five years to recover . I wish the me of today could be a teenager beginning their life instead of a 55 year old who was too busy self therapising to have built a carreer and a home. Yes its our responibility to fix our disorders but it takes the good part of a lifetime . Victims of childhood abuse are robbed of everything, not just their right minds and self esteem but often their potential of a career and home ownership. They get narcissists instead of friends and lovers and often their own children have disorders due to the parent overcompensating for the love they didnt give and for the narc father that they are ordered to visit at weekends .

Yeah,its that simple 😒

Love that quote

@@satsumamoon Yes I know. That quote is more directed at the people who grow up to be abusers and criminals...........and they blame everyone else for turning out that way. I too wasted the first half of my life to catering to narcissists and abusers. But at age 40 I went to university and it changed my life - I was expelled from school at 14. I just didn't fit in and I rebelled. But after age 40 and loving academic life, I decided never to date again, never to have another relationship. It was the best thing I ever did. I had time to get to know myself, the me I should have been all along. It was a revelation. I liked me.. I needed to be on my own for all this to happen, not looking through an abusers lens at me.........I've never had any great financial success but it doesn't bother me. I have a simple life and I'm happy. Content. It was a wild ride getting there but here I am. I survived. You will too.

I believed this totally for many years but, I had no idea how much being the adult child of a narcissistic alcoholic child beating mother affected my subconscious choices, it has taken years of therapy to fully understand and I am still learning aged 50, I think the risk with a statement like this is that it adds to our self hatred because we believe that everything that happens after we get to 18 is our fault- it really isn’t, we can work on ourselves and get insight but who we are drawn to and the feelings we have are hardwired in. It’s important to acknowledge that and forgive ourselves. I am proud that I haven’t carried on the abuse to the next generation but I have not been unscathed as an adult xx

She could have been a top psychiatrist, but I think she will make a better psychologist.

Eve Bermingham I agree. Many would be willing to pay a lot of money to have therapy from her. She’s fantastic.

She is a therapist.

I agree with you guys! She is incredible in her evaluations and also her delivery and whole energy is just wonderful! I am hooked on her channel! I look forward to her videos all week! 💜💜💜

I find her voice very soothing.

She is. She also said she would not have opposed the death penalty if she had know the truth about what he did.

Yes, I agree-an amazing example! She shows us what’s possible!

t rae death penalty is not about revenge, its about removing toxic people from society permanently

@@anniemaymcneely2013 yea, he should have gotten the death penalty. It is ridiculous that he still gets to talk to family, eat, relax, and whatever else. When he brutally took 4 innocent lives.

@@anniemaymcneely2013 That's not the case when it's your family member though. Sure supporters of the DP will say it is to protect the rest of society, but typically for a family - its revenge & her parents weren't prepared to live with themselves after. They are wonderful people that deserved so much better than what happened to their daughter & grandchildren.

And she got to hold her grandson!!!❤️❤️

Absolutely, it was incredibly moving. Love never dies.

What do you mean she got to hold her grandson??

@@MVKidPlay watch video so you see. She got comfort and it saved her life 🙏

MVKidPlay Shannan’s mom said the girls and Shannan came to her and that Shannan handed Sandy, her grandson and he looked just like Frankie.

Purple Light aw thank you! 😊

Yes, that's so true! How horribly ironic.

Also, it was a dreadful shame that the unconditional love CW received from his daughters also made no difference. CW even said himself that CeCe just bonded with him as soon as she was born without him even trying. We can see on all the videos that both girls genuinely loved him unconditionally, but sadly it made no difference.

Indeed Kat, so very true and sad 😔. It’s as if in some way he resented the girls deep attachment and love, which almost all children, have to their mothers. Perhaps they were an irritant if they were not in complete adulation of him and his dissatisfaction and discontent rose easier to the surface. It’s the only way I can rationalise his diabolical crime. Absolute tragedy.

@@laikathunderchild5746 Yes, I totally agree with you on that... 100%.

christine thank you! :) I hope they do too, I hope they know how amazing they really are!

excellent analysis of the principal mental health issues at stake in today's family atmosphere. my therapist thinks my mother had borderline personality disorder. she got worse as she aged., hostile, aggressively controlling , and delusional. but she could charm the pants off of anyone. everybody loved her. her own mother was clearly disturbed and could also be viscous then she could flip and become the most fun grandma ever. I was always a little afraid of her. I grew up expecting emotional abuse and by the time i was 8 or so I withdrew into a silent and stoic existence, like a prisoner trying not to attract any attention from the guards. head down, eyes averted, obedient .

What a beautiful message, it brought tears to my eyes. Yes, ❤️ love and 🙏🏻trust. CW's parents let him down as parents. I also believe Cindy Watts had her own demons and CW was not loved when he was a baby "something" traumatic happened between the age of 1-4. 🌻😘🌞

@@brighteastman4602 I experienced some of this Bright so sorry for your experience. Until last year (I am 66) I felt I was still in some kind of prison, even though my mother had been long dead, until finally a great therapist showed me the way out.

Daisy Duck, yea I think parenthood is a great privilege & should be embarked on w/ much more discrepancy then may b currently prevalent in societies

Thank you for such a beautiful comment! I'm sure you made a big difference to them!!

Agree. However, as I get older I notice that people with personality disorders typically run for office and seek power. Healthy and normal people rarely seek power over others. This is why our system is flawed, in my humble opinion. Typical politicians just want money, power and access to pipelines for corruption. Not all, but the vast majority unfortunately.

Amen!! I'd love for her to do a video on Trump and his narcissism! Lol I watched that recent documentary on him and his family (dad, brother) and man was that informative! He got it ALL from his Dad!! No doubt about it! The degrading of others. The bullying, his disgusting view on women. Their looks etc. Everything! Hope she will cover him sometime soon!

Courtney Shaine thank you so much! ❤️

I agree! She's a godsend.

Thank you! 😊

@@LiveAbuseFree I like your videos but I noticed that all your videos are about this case, when this case eventually becomes irrelevant what will you do for future videos

@@bendover5255 Hi Ben, thanks. Firstly, and most importantly, this case will never become irrelevant!! What a terrifying thought! This channel is about different forms of abuse from narcissists and people with cluster B personality disorders. The purposes of it are to help people to spot the red flags so that they can protect themselves and to help those who have suffered from narcissistic abuse to understand what happened and what was and wasn't their responsibility so that they can begin to heal. There's still more to talk about regarding Chris Watts who is a very useful example because there is so much information about him. But not all of my videos are about him and they won't be in the future, I'll be looking at different examples of narcissists and narcissistic behaviour.

@@LiveAbuseFree lol only if I lived by you then I could use your therapy skills because you seem to know your stuff

Good for you - you see patterns in serial killers!

I so agree!

Shella Bella thank you! I felt it was too because it was my whole heart talking. Yes, love is the answer. When will people see that it really is that simple? I agree about the parenting classes. You have to jump through so many hoops to adopt a child, why isn't it the same with your own children?

Shella Bella ..I so agree 👌🏻.. I too have wondered why parenting classes aren’t mandated

Gail Cross, I know Frankie Jr seems genuinely sweet & sensitive. I feel badly that he was suffering b4 all this happened. idk how he's getting thru

What a beautiful comment! thanks for sharing this Amy x

I completely agree

Thank you! :)

Wanton Disregard there’s a lady Kris Godinez We Need to Talk who says the same thing. It’s not Black & White, there is grey area. She helps people heal from CPTSD (complex post traumatic stress disorder) from abuse of NPD people.

Wanton Disregard: .... echoing your sentiment and observations. Well said. Thank you.

Lisa Marie Lund That is a wonderful quote! It is now one of my favorites also. Thank you.

Thanks so much for such a touching comment - that second to last sentence was so inspiring to me! :)

sperantaexista1 bless you! 😊

Absolutely!

@@MA__ Yes. It's tough given that we know so much about the case and especially how Shanann and her babies bodies were disposed of however as you say to label them as evil and monster in a n unintentional way allots power and control to them that they really do not have, would not have nor should have otherwise. As hard as it is to admit.. We all do have the capacity within us to kill.. The difference between me, you, us and the Chris Watts of the world is that the rest of us choose not to do such things and we're not malignant narcissists .Instead we look for and consciously choose ways to love and care rather than hate or kill or harm even if that means walking away. Also... What I know of malignant narcs, sociopaths, psychopaths is that they want us to feel fear, hate, anger, rage, bitterness and any and every other draining emotion they can give rise to within us because it feeds them narcissistic supply and heightens their false sense of self as being something they're not. I refuse to do that. I choose instead to leave it where it belongs.. Ie:between him and his creator. Thank you for replying Megan. ❤️

Toto G respect to u for bringing yor honesty here

@@juliebraden Thank you. I appreciate that ❤️👍

thank you! :)

chokinonashes61, totally agree!!....a parent modeling true self-confidence is the biggest gift to a child

Me too!!!

Empaths attract narcissists. They stay because it's really hard to believe people can be this evil. Speaking from experience. I'm an empath.

We can't control our hearts when falling in love, at least I can't....

Susan Appleby There is a video where she talks about when she was getting to know Chris. She does say she was emotionally down & out, and Chris made her feel worthwhile again

Heather H formerly Wy Zen Imar yes he was lovebombing her like fixing her car...impressing her father.

Narcissists weaponize others' empathy, arousing others' pity so they will be more likely to allow (enable) the narcissists' abuse. Narcs are quite skilled at figuring out how to work other people. Until I learned about narcissism, I really did not understand that there were so many people who are empty inside and also have no conscience or moral compass. These videos are very helpful and important education tools. Thank you.

Thanks shanny pots! :) I will be sharing it with you guys for sure!

If only...

Cindy Watts is suffering in her own personal hell. Her darling baby boy is in prison for getting rid of a woman who, in Cindy's mind, should have been erased a long time ago. Her precious, innocent baby boy is in prison and there's nothing she can do. She is living in her own version of hell.

Thank you for leaving such a touching comment!

Sarah A thanks so much :) You make such a good point about social media and the impact it has on kids too.

Live Abuse Free I am so happy to have discovered you & your wonderful insights & wise wisdom. Thank you for sharing so much that helps us all to gain insight within others as well as ourselves. My youngest is my 16 year old daughter & this time is so pivotal to keep communications open. We have a sleepover over Friday night in her room & chat,watch movies together & talk about school, her friends & whatever she wants. My house is always open to any of her friends day or night & she knows that they can sleep over anytime she want. That way I know every single one of her friends & they have a safe environment to be together. I never let her have sleep overs at others before she was 13 except for my best friends house because I had to know the family first& now I know them all. I have to say I have been blessed with my son (20) & daughter. They are strong, Happy & independent people. Love and trust is key but the MOST important thing you can do for your children is give them your time, quality time one on one. I work full time & run the house 😉 but I always spent an hour each with them in their beds before sleep every night until about 14 just talking with them about their day & life. I truly believe that this one thing has made them who they are today. Life is so hectic but we chose to have children so the least you can do as a parent is give them your time. I never had that as the eldest & only girl with 7 brothers & know it was the one thing I ever really wanted from my parents.

Amata thanks so much! :)