Apple River stabbing trial: Witness says Miu 'defended himself' 

Kids these days don't know how to act. I recommend you conceal carry if it is legal in your state

👆 found the EDCowards

and you would of left when you had the chance, and this never would of happened......

I would be terrified as a teenager if a random 50 something pushed my friends over, walked into the center of the group silently, punched a woman, then stabbed people defending her, and then lied to police about the whole situation!

Then why continue to walk over to them

Bad parenting

I am Gen X and most of the Zoomers I meet that are strangers to me are nice, friendly people who would offer to help.

Wholesome American values, the foundations for which are the natural nuclear family unit, have been dying since Roe v Wade. Politicians, MSM, and Hollywood are responsible.

social media.

I'm 38 and have kids their age. I would have helped them and so would my kids. Their parents didn't teach them right from wrong and simply didn't care

“Is this real life?” Yes, son! Your deplorable actions have real consequences!

Gen Z finds out you don't mess with Gen X

YUP......kinda like FRIDAY the 13 movie at the lake scene.....

Frfr 😂😂😂 this generation they do all the talk but can’t back shhhh up

Everybody got a plan until you get punched in the face - mike Tyson

How you figure? It's mr stabbys friend. Of course his point of view is skewed

He also got caught watching the trial. IMO his testimony should be thrown out. He broke a court order.

Yes

@@shannonfordays9944 I speak the language. He's clearly been coached

Lol most bulletproof his story has lies I'm it. He said he saw them throw his googles which clearing didn't happen and that was before anything. LIE He said he saw the girl hit him and he reacted. No way he could see it from that distance and the view being blocked by the girl. LIE Everything he said was all in MUI favour which will prove him not guilty. So first 2 are definitely lies and u call him rock solid.

Not true. It’s also up for debate who hit someone first

@@BlackSilverTreasure thugs caused it because they were shits who wanted to harass a older man. They could have been civil to him when he walked up to them. But instead started name calling him! Ass holes!

​@@BlackSilverTreasure there's no debate about that, the girl put her hands on him 1st is in the video.

@@BlackSilverTreasure Because the two females, one of which he allegedly hit, were the aggressors. They left the safety of their group to approach, command and intimidate the defendant. If he hit one first, as they kept crowding him, it's on the girls not him.

Wrong! He caused it! Their "words" may have incited/ticked him off! But it definitely was not self defense when he attacked first & last!

Let's hope they learned something. I doubt it though

This guy was the worst witness so far, apart from the guy who took the second, blurry video -- but that one was epic and is truly in a category by itself in the bad witness hall of fame. We can't have been watching the same guy. He said "no recuerdo" more than anyone I've ever heard.

Do you think deadly force is an acceptable response to verbal bullying by drunk teens? Watch the Video, yes they were being obnoxious, but he came across the river to them, he engaged with them physically, he started the 'fight' and proceeded to slash. Based on what I have seen so far I hope he is convicted. There's no explaining why he needed to come towards them if he was in fear of his life. Approaching teens with the idea that 'I can defend myself with deadly force if I'm bullied or offended' is sick, that is school shooter/ terrorist mentality.

@@eggs3000 do I think deadly force is appropriate when surrounded and attacked by more than a dozen drunk teens? Yes, yes I do

Absolutely

Underage drinking, Maddie should be charged with insighting a riot and terroristic threats at least...

No where in the state of Michigan was pot legal in 2022 & every single one of the “so called kids” that testified said they were smoking pot.

If he is found innocent then he can sue the teens and their parents.

Don’t forget the theft of the cellphone that started the interactions.

@@ericheisler5351theft?! No one stole the cell phone! The guy lost it in the river.

HE'S A COWARD!

@@Harkart59 No, the cowardly mob was acting aggressively toward someone who is anything but a coward. I didn't see him cowering, bud. I saw him stabbing those who assaulted him repeatedly. Then they cowered, and ran.

​@@Harkart59 The cowards are the ones (society) not calling out the drunk kids behaviour. Tis why society is so fuked now. When Nick was their age,the punks would have been called out an sent on their way.

I agree 100%.

It's horrible that this man has to face prosecution after defending himself. I've watched most of the testimony, this is the trouble with this country. They're kids,... children even, but they were drunk, bully. They need to be in jail. Hyenas!!

I guess u haven't seen the trial.....

​@@Temp5318I guess you're like the "people" who assaulted the man looking for his phone. You're going to get what's coming to you

“Anderson said a member of Miu's group named Ariel dropped his cellphone in the river. Ariel said it wasn't that big of a deal because he had insurance, but Miu insisted on trying to retrieve it… ….While showing several screenshots from the second video, which is almost 3 minutes and 30 seconds long, Anderson underlined that audio in the video indicates Miu was asked more than 20 times by the Schuman and Carlson groups to go away.”

Ya that's the verdict that I'd like to see. Those younger men did everything in their power to let older dude know that; "His life was in danger"

​@stimihendrix3404 What Miu was looking for is inconsequential. Other than the fact that he had a reason for staying put in that area. Why didn't the other 2 groups "go away"

Kids throw that word around constantly now a day. Very strange generation.

You see this online all the time. Young people have absolutely zero respect.

What's a "p"?

@@danmoore3660 A person who likes to do inappropriate (horrific disgusting) things with children. You can't type this on RU-vid. It's an AWFUL thing to be called in public, unjustified, a brutal slur. Worse really - than the N word.

@@danmoore3660 a pedoph_le!

interesting point.

Very true

Have you looked at your own lately lol

17 year Olds DRINKING They should be charged 😒

Alcohol and Testosterone on 100

Me too

Everybody is drunk and almost everyone don't remember anything clearly. Everyone is lying. Nic had multiple opportunities to leave and was told to, he stayed for the party. His decision was made by anger, not fear. If he not had a knife on him, he would have no choice but to run. Which probably would be 100% success rate, even the women were there to help him. The fact that he had a knife, made his decision to stay and use it, even though he still could of just ran away. He decided to use the knife, using deadly force should be last resort.

​@@virtuaguyverifycongratulations on quite possibly the dumbest comment on this thread.....and there are thousands.....

@@dm6187 No doubt about that lol

In legal terms he wasn't being bullied he was literally being assaulted and hit so... That is clear self-defense This should have never been charged at all This is a corrupt judge and a corrupt prosecutor to charge anybody. The only people charge should have been the kids assaulting a stranger

how do you know what's true?

yeah, an illegal alien.

@@benfrese3573what would be the reason of him to lie ? He isn’t family or anything to any of them, he’s just saying what he saw that day.

Yes and then the coward ran from the scene leaving his bleeding friends behind

​@@gloriasaliba3395 the camera man started the whole thing, along with the girl

"For the Culture"

Same here, I had an entirely different impression of what went down based on the still shots of the video versus just watching the video myself

Why didn't he just walk away? He felt the need to confront them instead of calling the police? Dude walked up to them like a complete psycho and then acts like a dumb ass that doesn't know what he did wrong in front of the police

AGREED! I'm grateful to see the video. If not, I would've thought that he was just an evil vile person! But after seeing the video, what those people did to him were not exactly honorable! It was actually sad and disgraceful.

I had the opposite reaction from watching the vid, you watch Nic stare like a creeper at them and them hit punch stab a girl in the side and all hell breaks loose. the "kids" were escalating but Nics posturing was very menacing and they thought he was a pervert

There's a very clear distinction in the groups of people. All the people who think he's guilty, guaranteed are liberals. The people who say he is innocent are definitely clear-minded conservatives

I honestly don't think this case should have gone to trial. I suspect that a grand jury is the reason this went to trial, in which case the prosecutor has to take the case. That might be why his work is lack luster in this case.

@@phukuhu7310 prosecutors, it is said, can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. Grand juries are notoriously swayed and influenced by the prosecutor. If they indicted him, it was because that was the result the prosecutor wanted, for whatever reason. fwiw, my sympathies lie more with the defendant. It sure sounds like he reasonably felt threatened by a mob of angry teenagers and young adults, especially with his heart problems.

I can't believe a 54 year old man couldn't use his vocabulary to say "hey We lost a phone in this area if you guys happen to find one do you mind turning it in for me?"

I agree it should have never even went to trail it's obvious

As the saying goes, 'bad cases make bad law'. I think sometimes there is so much public furor that cases come to trial that might not fit the usual clear-cut victim and offender paradigm.

There is no reason why he stabbed Riley. If you watch video she is off camera about 3 meters from him. He gets up walks 2 steps throws his life in that direction next thing u see Riley walking away from him looks down and realizes she got stabbed. MUI is walking away with charges there is no question. And Issac was last to be stabbed and he died. Why did that happen. We havnt even got to that part which is the biggest charge MUI has.

​@@leighagnello7993 That's easily argued with fight or flight

Yeah they kept attacking and he defended himself

Thank you for pointing out the law, to me it was self-defense.

@evangrunwald9877 where in the law does it state he has to do these things the law is simple he never broke the law defending himself imo the jury felt sorry for the kids if it had been adults attacking him I feel it would have went another way the jurry was thinking with their emotions not what the law says

Not necessary to apologize

Gen Z gotta learn not to mess with Gen X

💯💯💯💯👌

i bet he is going to be one of those youtubers that do around starting trouble to film it for clicks

I believe we should ALL be ACCOUNTABLE for one's own actions. I also feel when we get over ourselves (ego), and are honest w/ one's own actions we will start to get "there".

The kid recording was screaming & sounded like a woman after every was done! "This isn't reeeeaaal" sounded just like a B!+(#. A straight house n.

@BondJames-vz5wk he sounded so scared at the end of the video I bet he don't even leave his house!

He incited violence, but all the teenagers and young adults did. Miu made some significant mistakes, and this includes lying to police and trying to dispose of the weapon, but what they did was exponentially worse. If he had not used the knife to defend himself, it's reasonable to claim they would have started holding him underwater. AJ pushed him as hard as he could, and that is what actually caused him to be disemboweled. The teens, young adults and even the parents lied repeatedly. Their sworn statements contradict their trial testimony, and the video contradicts both. That makes them guilty of perjury.

romanian imigrant mentality there I fixed it for you

@@sundog6820 that includes you hit women if they yell at you.

@@ammiedoering4205 not where I'm from and not according to the 1st amendment, where are you from russia or Romania ?

MoB rule...Democrats run Wisconsin. Commies state policy and education. these kids never been punched in the face therefore, had no idea their actions could have consequences.

@@sundog6820 I didn’t mean you. Sorry, I meant the mentality of it’s ok to hit a woman in some cultures. I’m American, English teacher, using the universal “you” pronoun, meaning some in society

Same boat here...

They were in high school. 16-17 year olds. Go watch his initial police interview. He's dispicable!

@@GoddessTheOldeGodd They were drunk 16-17 year olds, they were not innocent.

@@GoddessTheOldeGodd OK, so? So are you supposed to get yourself beaten up/attacked by a mob of teenagers because they are in high school? lol

@@ernestor5440 according to the 12 people on that jury, apparently. we're living in clown world.

Would you RUSH toward someone that you're trying to defend yourself from? Would you grab their tube and prevent them from going downriver?

​@Stabsnipers did u even see the video? Dude was being harrassed so he went to confront them and they all surrounded him trying to provoke him and they did just that. This is the perfect example of Fuck around and find out. The witness that was there and actually saw what happened Said they grabbed his personal item and threw it in the river

It is sickening. Imagine being surrounded and swarmed by a group of drunk teenagers and then being put on trial when you defend yourself. Let's hope they actually learned something cause God knows their parents taught them nothing

@@franciscosaldivar9737 exactly

@@Stabsnipers You're inserting a narrative into what actually happened. That's not what happened.

No, the female that was stabbed was several steps back behind him, he literally had to take multiple steps to get to her, and one boy was coming to help deescalate, and gently pushed his arm saying “break it up” trying to push him away from “punching” the kids, what he thought was happening, and he was stabbed as well. As was ANOTHER boy who didn’t put his hands on him at all. Only 3 people who were stabbed touched him, one of which was non violent telling them to break it up. But ok bro.

Exactly! It didnt even occur to them to help the man find the phone? No, the kids wanted to start something

@@morogers4685 the kids said mean things from their tubes. He aggressively ran at them and grabbed them. Sometimes kids just say mean shit for no reason, it doesn’t mean they wanted to start something. But a man who got his feelings hurt and charged at them and grabbed them, then turned around while everyone screamed at him to leave and go away and walked back smiling getting up close to them, because if you watch never once did they come to him, he came to them, smiling the whole time like a crazy person almost like he was waiting for someone to hit him so he had an excuse to stab them, and when they didn’t he decided to throw the first punch-THAT is wanting to start something. Also only 2 of the people stabbed were aggressive to him, out of 5. He had to take several steps to even get to the female he stabbed, and she was shocked he “hit” her at all because she was not in his face or being aggressive to him, she was standing back several feet away yelling about him hitting a female.

​@@louderthanwordsInclusivity You said it all. He could have been a psychopath. Assume everyone is crazy, I do. I dont argue with any strangers

@@morogers4685 I mean agreed, but the issue is that he is not any less guilty just because the kids teased him, which many people seem to think.

🤣

Yup, it's sad that someone lost their lives but this is called a consequence.

We see youtube pranksters and others beginning to get shot snd stabbed let that be a lesson to people don't mess with strangers let this be a lesson to people not everyone's gonna put up with your games

You can’t stab people just because you got taunted lol.

AGREED!! 💯%

@@jesintajesintayou can’t be a threat to someone’s safety and not expect to be stabbed or hurt.

@@jesintajesintahe was being attacked. Shoving, slapping, etc is assault.

He didn't even speak english! It's amazing these assholes are tried as victims

i can tell they are lying because i saw the whole thing on video in slow motion 4 times.

Video proves it. Statements taken from the teens by law enforcement at the scene proves it. One of the teens parents even tried to help the man by sending his son over but instead the kid incited violence into the situation. Yes it is 100% self defense because how can you be telling someone go away when you’re following, blocking them off and your redneck from yelling in the man’s face is sticking far into it. I’d have pushed her too especially after saying don’t touch me. I would’ve also stabbed my way out of that situation and that’s not even me being 50 year olds in an unfit fragile body from a very serious recent open heart surgery. Those teens were inciting for violence and they got it.

absolutely! Only stabbed people are the ones attacking him. Hope he is found not guilty !

*He. Went. To. Them. Repeatedly.* That’s not self defense. That’s harassment. And it’s not exactly how you behave if you’re fearful of anyone.

Aggravated manslaughter

This should have never gone to court. It may have been forced by a grand jury which forces a prosecutor to take the case.

It shouldn't have been charged period. The guy was attacked and defended himself. Hopefully the kids learned something about consequences

Involuntary manslaughter at best.... After watching all of the video and seeing testimonies, this guy was definitely defending himself and it totally got out of hand. If anything, he might even be able to Sue, the kids for damages. It might actually be a hung jury

@@Natalie-rl7dq no way he gets convicted and I hope he does sue them afterwards. They need to learn there are consequences to false pedo accusations as well

Exactly. Those two things go back and forth in questioning every witness and they never mentioned it in initial police interviews. Seems like they all decided to make that stuff up to have a common ground for a consensus before the case started.

Absolutely 💯 self defense

You guys are silly

I disagree because one of the boys was telling everyone to back off and that was before he knew of any injuries.

@@leighagnello7993 Those "boys" are liars. So far in court they've lying. They should be held accountable for assault, and the fact they lied about that guy. I think that the defendant should be held accountable.

He's had several open heart surgeries also.

When he is acquitted I hope he sues them and their parents for the pedo comments.

You think it's appropriate to stab 3 different people bc of a small taunting and pushing? He stabbed 2 people that wasn't even in his face. So if he had a gun he had the freedom to just unload into all the teens around him? Lol you're nuts.

​@@aydinsha Yes, that guy was 60 years old so "small pushing" could've easily meant a dislocated shoulder or broken hip, which could've drowned him. The scrawny punks wouldn't puff their chest up to someone their age, and they got a nice lesson in humility because of it.

And attorneys fees. This should never had come to trial.

@@aydinsha yes, yes I do. They assaulted him and could have seriously hurt or killed him. This never should have went to trial. Those kids parents are going to be in debt to him for a long time

Thankyou Sherlock Holmes. Case closed!

It was being egged on by Madison and cockfield

This isn't high school, grow up. A grown man was "bullied" so he needed to disembowel someone, stab someone else in the heart and kill them, and slice open another girls side? If you consider that karma, you're sick in the head.

@@jenniferk8710He’s an OG.

Is it still karma if he gets life in prison?

Indeed. 💯

Yelling isn’t a crime. You don’t get to stab ppl because they yelled at you. The teenagers didn’t even do anything to him. The fight was between the Carlson group and miu, after miu hit their female friend. 5 ppl were stabbed only one was from the teens group. And he was stabbed coming to the defense of tony,after miu stabbed tony for no reason. Miu is a deranged lunatic

Someone called Mr. Miu a cracker, I can't imagine who that person might be. This is a hate crime against Mr. Miu.

You see he ran up to the teenagers and stopped them

​@@Beastmode42looking for a phone that was lost in the river they held up a phone

Ten to one is a horrid place to be.

Tell grandpa he can’t attack people and then be the one scared, lol. He was *RUNNING* up to them to attack first.

No they surrounded him outnumbered him humiliated him knocked him down over and over and they humiliated him people can only be pushed Soo far until they snap

@@nickieb5297 just like how he attacks them first right? Don’t for get that part.

Great point about possible PTSD! Nic started high school as an immigrant. He was probably bullied, and the taunting could have triggered him. Of course, he should have walked away. Of course, he shouldn’t have lied to police about two boys pulling a knife on him. I taught secondary for 30 years. I go out of my way to avoid rowdy crowds of teenagers.

Stress will do that to you

"Anyone who saw the video can testify that" Nope. Argumentative fallacy.

Imagine being attacked by "teens" after having several open heart surgeries.

Guilty!!!!!👍

Washington state is also a Stand Your Ground State.

So you can murder people because they say mean words? Freedom of speech mean nothing?

@@notyourmama7059 what is the law in this state?

Then he had every right to be anywhere on the river,correct?

@@google_is_a_criminal it might be irrelveant but th emedia will find hi not guilty as he was defending himself

What was he doing over there harassing those kids? trying to creep on girls with his snorkel... yikes

@@korbendallas7181 Well if you bothered watching the videos you are commenting on. He was looking for a phone, a statement that even the kids gave the cops back in 2022, but now they have changed their testimony AFTER THE FACT to him rambling something about "find small girls". Does it sound made up? Yeah probably because it is.

@@MrBa143 its on the video

You do realize that the teenagers weren't even the ones that got in a fight with them right? SMH you do realize the teenagers are actually sitting in their tubes floating down the river when it was the defendant that turns and runs towards them and stops them, forcing them to jump up out of their tubes and stand in the water you do realize even after that he walked away a second time and turned around when Maddie walked over to the teenagers. He saw Maddie walk to the teenager so he turned around and walked over to her to basically have a confrontation with her. That second time he walked away, had he just kept walking and not went and tried to get Maddie's face, none of this would ever happen. But he walked over to get Maddie's face and then as she screaming at him to just go back to his group he pulls his knife out and start smiling. That's not the look of a man fearing for his life. Why would you keep going back to where the teenagers are if you're so afraid of them

​@@korbendallas7181backwards...nic was minding his own business and the teen twaughts simply didnt like him coming near

Yep

Honestly isn’t gonna happen in my opinion very quick. The way the teen says “is this real life“ while seconds before they were literally laughing having a good time beating on an old man in a mob. That’s seriously disgusting behavior and they left their friend dead alone. At that age doing nothing to stop it says they have very bad morals to say the least.

Also it seems like they’re lying in court to blame the victim which is possibly not only to fool the courts but the public and their families. If I was their parents I’d feel terrible and that I’ve failed them completely. Not only would I disown them but I’d stand on trial saying what I’ve witnessed on video was completely wrong on my child end. Tough lessons but in reality ouch that hurts to say here a young man died from their own behaviors.

From their testimonies and behavior, I can see first hand that they absolutely HAVE NOT learned!

From what I've seen, many of these teens are acting the victim and with that mentality, won't think they did anything wrong and therefore, won't learn a thing. I hope I'm wrong.

Guilty

@@sopi4 AF!

​@@sopi4not guilty, case closed

Oh yeah forgot the current in that lake was so strong it pushed the knife into the teens. My bad everyone. No wonder it’s so bad in your country you buy guns at your local supermarket. In England we can’t even buy fun snaps without being id but let’s be honest if Netflix didn’t make killers sympathetic you would all say he’s guilty. Go back to strumming one off to the Jeffrey Dahmer tapes you sickos

Dude I keep hearing that too and I have yet to see this! I believe they wanted clout for video said this dude was a pedophile beat the s*** out of him and put it on the internet.

There isn't any footage. There is no police picture of her face. She didn't even have pictures of her face. What teen or adult wouldn't have ten pictures and daily updates.

He walked away 62 feet.

romanian lesson in civility

Taught them the lesson of: "Respect your Elders".

True, but it's not good to spend the rest behind bars.

This is the clown causing the sequestration because we trust NONE of them!!

Yep, not guilty

@@styphlynne8253?

Not guilty, self defense

Explain why he *RAN* up to them, *ATTACKED* them first and had the knife *IN HIS HAND BEFORE* the fist push. All with a smile on his face.

@taramcgavan7654yeah they seem to forgot the dozens of times the teenagers SCREAMED at him to go away and he refused

​​@@mike_hockran up to them to look for a phone he thought they took. 2) he made contact only after a blonde bimbo and her friend backed up by an angry mob were shouting at him putting THEIR hands on him and forcing him to leave a way OPPOSITE of his group, and the knife being out should have been a tell tale sign the man is in 'fear of great bodily fear or death, and walked the other direction. If you play with fire , you will get burnt. Being entitled threatening people isn't the answer. The idiot cameraman after saying 'this isn't real' demonstrates the pure entitlement and narcissism demonstrated by these 'kids'. The verdict lost us a mechanical engineer and saved us a couple frat punk college football players that like to make fun of people for tic toc videos Hope I cleared it up for you

One of the first points I made. If he were black, the teenagers, young adults and the parents would have spent the last 2 years laying low and being constantly cited by the left as despicable racists and all the rest of the bullshit they constantly push on society. If he had not used the knife, it's reasonable to suggest they would have started holding him underwater. Their strikes were getting more and more aggressive and powerful with each attack, and even after 2 had been stabbed, they continued to attack him because they were so lost in the bliss of the moment in abusing this man that was surrounded by 13 people. Even the young men that went over to help decided to assault him, and they also lied. He never hit the girl which the video proves. The idea that he could punch her in the face while holding the knife without their seeing it is only less ridiculous than their claims that he slapped her while holding the knife in his hand. All of their sworn statements claimed it was a slap, but when they saw the video and met with prosecutors, this was impossible, and they all changed their stories saying it was a punch. *At the point the one says "he hit a girl!?" mocking and taunting him, this is when they all claim he had punched her, but he had actually stabbed her, and even she thought she had been punched so they all rolled with her reaction to saying he hit her.* When the police arrived, her first words were "he hit me!" because they were relying on this lie as a cover story. It's absurd that people are believing them and arguing this in the video comments.

The comments by the younger kids are so insane. They are trained to use the word pedofile in situations that don’t fit all the time. Weird generation. I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. It was a different era completely.

so much boomer rage in this comment, lol

@@benfrese3573 you don’t even know what a boomer is. 🤣

@@yankees29 ok boomer

Exactly!, like where are the pictures of maddies injuries?.

Omg you truly don’t know how court works. The questions (asked by the prosecution & defense) and answers (answered by the witnesses or experts) are for the jury so they can decide on a verdict 🤦‍♀️

@@DivineKiss-zh2wd I’ve served on a jury. I understand how it works. Your point makes no sense. I was commenting on the fact that the lawyers seem to be asking questions they don’t know the answers to. Which is a good way to lose a case if you’re a lawyer. The last thing you want are surprises if you’re a lawyer.

@@jonlohrenz5446 You wrote in your original comment that the Prosecution is asking questions they don’t ALREADY know the answer to. So that’s why I thought you didn’t understand.

@@DivineKiss-zh2wd that’s what they’re supposed to do. Lawyers don’t usually ask questions in court to find out the answers, they should already know the answer before asking the witness a question. This is so they can lock them into their testimony. The prosecution at some points appeared frustrated and so they were asking things they weren’t certain of.

True. This could possibly tilt the trial in Nick's favor.

​@@prometheusrex1 everything I've seen and heard has tilted things in the favor of Nick.

USA Crime has the uncensored video. You tell me who is to blame. Nicolae Miu defended himself. Had he not they would have drowned him.

@@nomoreclowns100exactly the kid’s testimony is all lies….

😂😂😂👍🤭

Even if he did hit her, the fact that she left her group to start badgering him and crowding him was the moment she became the aggressor in the situation. It's on her.

@@phukuhu7310 I agree, in the video you see everyone put their hands on him and the aggression towards him with him not saying a word, nor moving fast or touching anybody else, until he gets punched, and then more so when he gets pushed down, and on his way back up when people are still rushing him. I do believe the reason why they’re not bringing Maddie to the stand is because it’s going to be detrimental to their case when she has to admit that he didn’t hit her, or she will get up there on that stand and commit perjury, if none of that is the case, then they would have her testify, keep saying that she testified off camera, there’s nothing special that would require her to have to do that, and if that is the case, then, at this point, there’s a hidden agenda somewhere where they’re not wanting to show the public that, even though they have brought every other witness, and every other witness has had to testify on video, live streaming. Like they want to instigate an uproar, because everyone will do a trial by media first, and if he found not guilty, flip out, because the person that died was under the age of 18. SMH this is why there are rules to our justice system. This is why nobody has really heard of this case until the point of trial because of all the evidence and they didn’t want trial by media. But it looks like the media has made up their mind, whether guilty or not, and only showing what they want the public to see to get that outcome if it’s in fact, true that she testified off camera

All those questions were probably brought up and examined thoroughly by the defense no doubt...but because she was to cowardly to have her testimony be public we're all in the dark.

She testified in private. They did not call her into open court. That itself speaks volumes about her contribution to this clusterfuck of a circunstance

@@trevorparry2287 how and where did you find this info? How do you know and why hasn’t it been submitted into evidence for the case. Has the jury seen this? The judge? Why is every other single person involved had to testify in the open except her? That’s about as SUS as it can get!!!!

Yeah once you see the video of the woman who he supposedly hit it shows right before that she’s touching him and he says and does a hand gesture to not touch him. She does it again I believe but is also yelling sticking her neck out in his face. Cardinal rule respect personal space.

My mother taught me that you never had anyone male or female, unless you intend on them hitting you back. She got karma and was served more than she could take those are because of her actions. Every action has a reaction. These teens caused this, and unfortunately, there will be consequences for those on both sides because of actions that were than taken.

Ya, I've been confused, some people say she was hit, bur no video shows it. Supposedly there's pictures of it. This guy didn't see it. I think they are all saying it to try to put the guy away. There's a lot of people calling him crazy and knows how to use a knife. I think he was scared and was fear for his life.

@@jayyy4491I’m pretty sure him “hitting her” was actually him stabbing her. Seems like a overreaction

@@spencerdoesntknowanything680 no the first hit that everyone is calling a slap punch or push was what we’re talking about. Also I may understand what you’re getting at as when they keep yelling “hitting her” the video pans to a woman stabbed but that’s not the first hit nor is it the first psychical touch. In the video the first psychical contact comes from them touching him then he says not to while gesturing with his hands not to touch him there anymore. This was when they say leave which is what he was doing. You can’t push someone to leave in public area that’s not in your personal space and ontop of that he was leaving. You wouldn’t be annoyed by someone touching you whether it’s tapping poking or just laying a finger on you? Then you also tell not to but they continue to scream louder each breath getting more into your face? Nobody is yelling in my face inside my personal space without getting a push back whether it be a stiff arm or a punch.

Only those of us who have been surrounded like this know what it's like. It's paralyzing, puts you in a fight or flight for your life mentality. Now add the sensation of being pushed down and drowning to that. I agree though this is a tough case for sure.

Was PTSD triggered when he was surrounded?

So you are going to ignore the fact that he got punched and pushed in the water AFTER hitting the teenage girl in the FACE? Or that he hit her in the face because she demanded he let go of their intertubes - which he was pulling upriver. FACTS: The guy was angry at being called names and continued to engage with the group, hit the woman, got hit back and pushed into the water, then got back up and began stabbing people with a knife hidden in his pocket. This is the sequence of events in the cellphone video. He then walked off, hid the knife in the woods, put on a jacket, hat and sunglasses and tried to leave with his group. This is what the police body cameras show. Now, he says it was self-defense and he was sooo scared. Really?

@@teachtravelthrive You got most of that wrong. The female who supposedly got punched according to the prosecution, was not only the aggressor according to law, she was 25 years old. I'd correct you on everything else, but there's too much to cover. The moment they group swarmed him, he was legally allowed to start in on them with a force multiplier, i.e., the knife.

you describe exactly what i saw with my own eyes in the video on X. anyone who thinks he was just crazy or stabbing kids at random etc needs to shut the pie hole until they go see it for themselves, in slow motion if they choose.

Another commenter mention she knew women like that blonde lady - a few drinks and they try to start WWIII. Her and the football player thats was inciting them to violence for his tiktok video are really responsible for the whole thing

Agree but you don’t smoke a woman in the face either and not expect to get knocked on your ass and slapped which is what happened.

They assume that because they’re women they can cross that boundary. Inappropriate to touch/hit someone regardless of their gender

No person should get in another person’s face, regardless of gender

😂😂😂😂 So who was it that crossed to the other side of the river violating the teenagers personnel space ?

If you don't know that and you fear for your life, walk away, lke they were telling him to do for the majority of the video.

I thought she testified off camera.

Yeah what makes her special

Exactly! 1 witness told about the punch and her eye being swollen, he said pictures were taken, where are the pictures?. I believe maddie drunk and lied about the punch and that's why the gang of people started to fight him.

So far I haven't seen anything showing her face being injured if he punched her there would be marks iv been hit in the face and it showed. She would have a bruise somewhere. He tried pushing her outta his was and he had already been pushed down beat up by all the other young adults that he was already in fight or flight I'm really curious about Madison as well their behavior was unacceptable and she needs to be on the stand under oath

@@nicholasjohnson601 are you asking why is her testimony so important and special to the case??????

If he defended himself he cant be charged with manslaughter

Talk about a fake bot comment

What exactly triggered this whole ordeal. SOMEONE started it. If it was name calling, that’s not going to give you grounds to use force. Shoving is another matter - it’s all going to come down to who shoved first.

the capslock is right above the shift

meds takey

I’m probably guilty as a kid before my teens of doing this but also other times helping someone out in a similar situation. They pushed way too hard and did so much wrong. I apologize for that happening to you. I ddidnt physically hurt anyone only harass them and it was stupid. This guy is innocent in my opinion. Should’ve never crowded him or put him in danger like that because once the severity of how fearful he was I would’ve and they should’ve stopped. Guess it’s different morals nowadays while stupidity, ignorance, and mental illness is just rampant

Agreed . Ridiculous. Self defence!

israel bombed 7 aid workers and the news are covering this instead of why they bomb knowing that israel has cameras that can be crystal clear in day and night. not to mention theres alot more corrupt stories that have came out.

As clear as it gets!

That is because he WAS a witness for the Defense, heard out of schedule because of the availability of the translator.

Ariel is not a great witness for the defense. He was seen watching the trial while sitting outside the courtroom. He also claimed to remember a lot more during his testimony than he did when speaking to the police officer back then. That’s why the prosecution asked if he was told not to watch the trial by the defense and he lied and said yes. During the break before he testified, the defense even admitted that they didn’t tell their Spanish witnesses (Ariel & another guy) to not watch the trial, which every witness was supposed to be sequestered. He can be charged with perjury for lying under oath.

He was 52 years old at the time. What kind of drugs are you smoking

Bunch of idiots

The tic toc culture. That's why he was filming everything. Thought it was funny to laugh, jeer, taunt, surround, and bully a grown ass man.

I would agree with you: except for the fact that Nic made some very dumb statements to the police after he was in custody. A juror who wants to find him guilty will latch on to that and will be difficult to convince. Idk how you explain making up a story to the police that has every single material fact wrong.

I can accept that. It just takes one reasonable person to avoid him being locked up for life for defending himself.

@@ewn0404 but that has nothing to do with what actually happened, as we can all see in the videos.

​@@ewn0404Nic was an idiot and lied, but he was not on trial for perjury it was murder and it was all caught on tape. The jury was clueless and we lose an engineer but gain two wonderful college football players that make sadistic tic tok content making fun and bullying grown ass men

Not according to every random commenter, they seem to know every detail lol

@@JaceB-tf3vf LOL

Is Nick Muslim ?

@@user-uc7dc2dd4qnick is catholic😊

And he’s nicks friend and snuck off and pretended like nothing happened too, people who feel justified don’t pretend to not be involved they call police or wait on them to come

No excuse for stabbing indiscriminately

But only 1 side is correct.

And a video that shows which side is correct.

Looks like they are now.

Rich parents?

Spanish is my first language 😶

Great reply

​@@TwosplintersHe does speak English, but why would he suddenly want to joke with a group who immediately start calling him a pedophile.

Not everyone would think of joking with a group of drugged and drunk kids who start verbally attacking him right away.

He tried to speak up for himself and was told “it doesn’t matter” and “you’ve got 10 seconds to leave “ but was still followed by the mob. All on video. You’re right about everything else just thought I’d add this in. I wouldn’t know what to say if drunk big crowd and stronger young burly men surrounded me yelling pedo not reasoning with me. I’d definitely be thinking this is leading to a lynching.

Providing logical options for what an impaired man under attack “should have” done is counterproductive and pointless. They were all impaired. The difference is one was minding his own business while impaired and the others decided to make his business theirs. End of story.

Huh? Who is Negan? Also, tell me about what you mean by, "the walking dead." I get the zombie reference but there's more to what you're saying.

This is such a seriously sad case and people are so passionately divided but ur comment def has me 😂

@@phukuhu7310he’s referencing that the guy Mui looks like Negan from TWD, which I didn’t think about before but is actually very true, he does look like Negan.

I’m enlightened af 😂

He said, I will shut that shit right down.

miu lawyer already said best evidence is the video. video don't show none of this. its all he said she said now. lmao end of day miu approach them with intent shown in the video. lol

He KILLED

Wait until you watch his arrest and police interrogation videos. He lied about everything. If it was truly self defense he would’ve told the truth off the bat and claimed he was scared for his life but no he lied through his teeth. The jury will see through all his BS.

​@sopi4 so he was supposed to wait to get killed?? He defended himself *FAFO*

Thats crucial information. Thank you.

@@robhill4352 yes ! It’s a big mess up !

@@latinasforthewin4274 very big. Very pertinent information

Because he refused to walk away when told to leave for 2 minutes straight

​​@@algae_correction.. not told. Add taunted, yelling in face, grabbing in arm, and pointed to a direction downstream away from his party. Also add that a river is a public place and the 'kids' could just continue downstream and the blonde bimbo could have simply not escalated the situation into a deadly encounter. There fixed it for you

But amazed how many people up to including the jury are clueless. I get people are upset about a teenager dying but life is not butterflies the 'kids' bear responsibility for their friends death. And deep down they know it

Bystander effect most likely.

they didn't wanna get deported apparently

From the video he seems to approach but it was too late, he was behind Ryhley, the man with sunglasses

He was able to handle himself. He’s motherfuckin’ Charlie Bronson.

At the beginning of the video you can see Nic was waving his hand to his friends asking for help

@stitchedlovely did he? i didnt see it

​@stitchedlovelyreasonable doubt

it seems like everything is on camera,except this punch,it makes one wonder

​@stitchedlovelywhere are maddies injury pictures?.

i dont think he snapped, it looked like he was scared, he could of drowned, or had a heart attack. i think he was defending the blows that kept comingI when he was hit and in the water ,they were trying to hold him down. it would of been so scary for that man.