Apple Vision Pro - An Honest Conversation 

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I planned on buying it the first time I saw it when it was announced. Friday I can order it... the two things I am worried about the weight... another reviewer said it is about 1pound and he said he was fatigued around 15 minutes... he didn't think he could make it an hour, so a 2 hour movie would be a challenge. MAybe that is something we get use to... depending on how much of the weight is on your nose (which is a bad place to put the weight but doesn't sound like the weight is there). The second issue is that I am nearsighted and would need to buy the inserts... the inserts are just $150 so that is actually really cheap from what was speculated. So that is less of an issue (I just found that out and found my prescription.. so that won't be a hassle). The weight worries me because I don't want to spend a lot of money and not use it because it is heavy or just use it for short periods of time... I'm on my computer all day (maybe a good alternative to a standing desk... alternate back and forth) Will this take off over time... simple answer is yes... the dream goal for computers is to have holographic displays and talk to the computer and control a device with your eyes or hand gestures. This accomplishes that... in the future maybe they are just regular glasses (tech that exists) but this is far superior but again the weight. It is Wednesday and I am still planning on ordering it Friday. The weight has tempered by hype for this maybe 50% ... I will have to see where I am on Thursday.

Definitely buy one. The content you make on it with pay for it.

@@KodaVoss I have to wonder if any of the people complaining about weight have ever spent time in a Meta Quest headset. That is to say, I don’t think Apple is committing any kind of original sin here so much as failing to improve much upon the burden that goes with current state of the art in VR. And yes, Tim Apple, it’s VR.

I’m still going to order it the second it’s available 😅

I am already tapping into my 401k as we speak

love it!

Facts lol

Same mentality 👀

real

I’ll have my 14th Appleversary in July. SO excited to learn the whole demo path. Not long now!

Well said and thanks for watching!

If I’m going to by a toy I’d likely only use a few times a month it has to be 2k or less.

@@logan594 then don’t buy this model and clearly you’re not the audience lol a cheaper lighter version will come that’s mostly likely in iPad price range

False. Statement. The iPhone changed everything.. with this .. I’m not sure it’s the same thing. Not sure it’s an iPhone moment. Maybe I’m wrong .. but I remember the change the first iPhone brought .. and that was just looking at the photo.. we knew.

@@Instant_NerfI remember it too and not everyone was on board there were many news outlets trying to write its obituary. I also think post iPhone it’s hard for anyone to capture that again, we are not naive to what tech can do anymore expectation is 10 years ahead of the tech. It will get there.

Really appreciate the kind words! Thanks for hanging around!

Well I’m a person and I care so your theory is kinda wack 🤷🏾‍♂️

*you’re

I think they'll start slowly making it more and more VR games oriented while keeping all the commute functionality. They'd eventually over take Meta, or maybe they keep there's more like a computer while giving the gaming to Meta and other companies the gaming win

I'm been asking myself that same question. Considering the fact it took Apple six years to develop this (which is three times longer than it took them to develop the first iPhone) it's hard to believe they are likely to have a yearly release cadence. They could of course do incremental improvements, like moving to M3+, moving to the newest version of WiFi, etc, but can they meaningfully improves the experience on a yearly schedule? Shrink it down, strip the weight out, improve the optical stack, meaningfully improve battery life, drive the price down to a mainstream price point? I don't think they are likely to make meaningful advancements on those fronts on a yearly basis. So the question is: Is Apple willing to retool on a yearly basis to make incremental spec bumps on a niche product? And in general, historically, the answer to that has been "no." The only curve ball here is that Apple may wish to push for accelerated development to drive toward mass market, but at the price they are launching at, that doesn't really look like their objective at the moment. I think they are launching with a strong enough feature set to not need to upgrade it for a while, and give the developer community time to build out an ecosystem, before they start getting aggressive about iterating on the product.

Really? You really want to compute for 8 hours with 650g hanging off your face? I think the value needs to be a lot more unique than just Mac utility, as I'd rather use a Mac for Mac stuff.

@bujin5455 Yes, I do! The idea of everything on a computer fits in a small form factor is neat. Holograms will be interesting. Plus, this is just the first version. Wait until Windows and Linux spatial computers show up. Probably in lighter materials. The glasses will get smaller and lighter. We might get helmet spatial computers that distribute the weight across the whole head. So people wear helmets like the Mandalorian with larger battery packs.

@@MeNoOther I agree that the "idea" of a computer fitting in that form factor is neat. I think the reality of using a hot heavy thing hugging your face for 8+ hours is hell.

@@MeNoOther Also, Microsoft already had a crack at this a LONG TIME AGO. Remember the HoloLens? They even released a follow up, the HoloLens 2. So yeah, that's a thing already.

I think the "Pro" is only there to help you feel better about the degree Apple is going to violate your wallet. When this actually get's launched at a reasonable price, I expect all of the features will still be present, and probably a few more to boot.

You know how many times Apple has been said to be doomed?

@@paulrevere1479 no one is saying apple is doomed. The video is more about whether or not makes sense for "regular" people to buy this first gen device at 4k piece. I know a lot of app developers, and none of them are interested in developing for this device or buying it. This is just the first, there will be more to come, and those will probably have a better chance of success.

I don’t know where you’re getting your data, but for the first time in over a decade, Apple has taken over Samsung as the number one cell phone seller in the world. So I’m not 100% sure your data is accurate.

@@guacamole456 What’s with this first gen device nonsense? Apple has worked on this for nearly a decade. While this is may be version one to us, this is certainly not version one to Apple. You can sit around and wait for the next best thing all you want but there will always be a next best thing. Why buy anything if you’re going to wait for something better? This device has tech in it that was only a fantasy to have before now. 2 micro-oled 4k+ screens in each eye? A fantasy before now. The amount of tech in this device is worth way more than the price it’s selling for. People are just bitter because they can’t afford it. If they could afford it they wouldn’t say “who is this for?”

​@@paulrevere1479 exactly, you nailed in the head, the VisionPro is perfect for peope like you that just buy stuff because is cool and can afford it. that is what first adopters are. No one is arguing that it is an impressive piece of technology. I'm not a first adopter. I'm not getting it, period.

Yeah don’t buy first gen. Look at how lackluster and quickly abandoned the gen 1 Apple Watch was. Feel bad for those people that spent $10K on the premium material one lol

You are lying - where did they switch marketing??

Quest pro (the highest line) is $1000

@jc2358 right, and it's not worth twice as much as the quest 3

Apple would not allow those kinds of creeping software for something like this especially with where people are looking. That would be a privacy nightmare. You sound like the worst kind of employer tbh

I respectfully disagree. We have had a decade of cheaper VR headsets ($300-$1,500) and there’s a reason they only have 10% retention. The quality of the experiences are limited and the user barriers are too high: weak gaming-centric software, middling mobile processors, clunky Wii controllers, blurry passthrough and mirroring, cheesy graphics and UIs. A cheaper Vision Pro would have to compromise on crucial differentiating aspects like the display & graphics, passthrough clarity, Mac-level processor, the sensors & input methods, Spatial Audio drivers, years of R&D poured into a purpose-made OS and UI, media content deals and acquisitions, etc. At that point it’s a completely different and compromised product. It needs to first be capable of enabling breakthrough experiences. Once they’ve planted a flag and people see they’ve achieved next level quality, they can slowly bring the cost down, sell more units, continue optimizing the software, build out the content ecosystem, etc. Palmer Luckey, the founder of Oculus, has gone on record saying this is the right approach for Apple and one he tried to do at Oculus before being overruled. Having said that, there will likely be different tiers and market segments as there are for many other products. The market for low end and/or gaming-centric headsets is still wide open.

I can hook up keyboard and mice, monitors, storage, do multi screen, I edit in Lightroom and have used Final Cut Pro. I'd say that kicks the crap out of any computer I had growing up and is more than enough for most people these days? I think this is all changing right now as we speak! Thanks for watching and commenting!

Sorry for the confusion, but thanks for checking it out

No money to buy it? Is that it?

understood! certainly not for everyone. this will be interesting...

When it comes to apples first Gen prodcuts you have to look at it for what it will be 3-4 generations from now. The 1st iPhone was fine but most thought it was way too expensive, unnecessary, and just for enthusiasts. By the time we got to the 3GS and iPhone 4, it was everywhere. Same with iPad. The Vision Pro is the START of the journey toward slim glasses you use everyday instead of your phone+tablet+laptop+tv, all that hardware can collapse into spatial glasses.

You said it yourself. You don’t get it. You’re saying more about yourself than about the product or the people who do get it.

When people say they don’t get it, that’s usually because it’s not something they need. I am not saying you are doing this, but I read posts of many people trying to find usage for this in their lives. If you are looking for a reason, it’s not for you. Skip the buy because you are not the demographic at this moment.