Are we ready for Electric trucks ? - We drove the new Mercedes trucks to find out | Electrifying.com

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Now, we’ve all been driving electric cars for a while now, and although there are many things to love, the environmental benefits are a big reason for us all wanting to make the switch. You can argue all you like about the impact of batteries, but there is no denying that local air pollution is better when EVs are around - especially in urban areas.
Which is where electric trucks like the ones we’re driving in this video are PERFECT.
Unlike our cars, the journeys done by bin lorries, buses and delivery trucks are predictable and regular. So the operator will know how much battery capacity they need and when they need to charge.
To find out more, we visited Millbrook Proving Ground in Bedfordshire to check out Mercedes’ growing range of all-electric large commercial vehicles.
First up is the eEconic which has three batteries, each with a capacity of approximately 112 kWh - that’s bigger than pretty much every electric car we can think of. And there are three of them! That gives a range of between 60 and 90 miles, which doesn’t sound a lot, but it does have to work for a living. A comparable diesel would be getting about 9mpg!
There are two motors, with a continuous output of 330 kW and maximum output of 400 kW. Unusually for an electric vehicle there’s a two-speed transmission - just like a Porsche Taycan!
Next up is the eActros 400, which means it has four of those whopper batteries, giving it a capacity of 448 kWh. That’s the same as 10 Corsas. This is designed for longer distance work, so has a range of about 250 miles. Finally, we have the eActros 300, which has three batteries with a total capacity of 336 kWh.
Charging? Well, if you are talking about delivery trucks or bin lorries, they can do their round and then come back to the depot and charge overnight. No problem. Easy.
These can all charge at 160 kW, meaning they can go from 20% battery to 80% in just over an hour with three batteries and in around an hour and a half with four batteries.
There’s no AC charging either, so you couldn’t plug these into a slow charger as there’s just no point.
Join Nicola and Tom as they take to the road in a range of all-electric trucks. Is this the future of haulage? Let us know in the comments below.
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@ShawnLower 27 дней назад

As an American, it is such a strange thing to see a RU-vid comment section on EVs that isn't filled with hate filled screeds by individuals whose grasp of the English language was not particularly influenced by higher education.

@stefanweilhartner4415 24 дня назад

i guess it's because 6 and 8 cylinders are more expensive in europe. and 4 cylinders do not have a great sound. switching to EVs is not a huge problem regarding the loss of sound. the second thing, probably more important. europeans do not drive very long distance. this is where EVs have their downside. and infrastructure is much better than in the US. all in all, europe leads probably two years when it comes to EV adoption compared to the US. and now after solar energy is getting that cheap, there is an additional benefit for people who can make use of solar compared to expensive gas.

@ZoomZoomMX3 24 дня назад

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

@jsanders100 22 дня назад

Ha ha, that’s a polite way to describe them.

@espenjohansen8074 Месяц назад

As someone living next to a road that goes up a hill: the single best thing about EV trucks would be the lowered sound polution. Revving trucks is only beaten by motorcycles when it comes to sound pollution.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

A fully loaded lorry makes half to one mile per gallon when it accelarates on first gear.

@stevendunn264 Месяц назад

The milk trucks used to be electric back in the 70’s when we had milk deliveries.

@solentbum 18 дней назад

I remember when they were horse drawn, the pollution was good for the roses!

@Mike-qu6fp Месяц назад

I would appreciate quiet bin trucks, that's huge.

@Antody Месяц назад

They would still be noisy because of all the equipment banging against the bins and whatnot.

@examinerian Месяц назад

The loudest thing on the one trialled here was a squeaky hydraulic ram that needed greasing. The next loudest was the chatter from the collection team... 😁

@ma40 Месяц назад

They’ve already been successfully deployed in Nottingham, and the staff don’t want to go back to diesel.

@douglaskinloch6272 28 дней назад

Allied Sweepers in Falkirk were working on small electric street sweepers in 2007, for that very reason. Sadly way too early for the market.

@JohnnyMotel99 27 дней назад

What has flies and four wheels? A bin lorry.

@purpleman4790 Месяц назад

I've been driving heavy trucks for 13 years now and Electricity is a great idea for Local trucking for sure, like 200-300km per day. The instant torque w/o the need of a transmission would be such a relief. We have a lot of Electric School busses here now, that would just be a derivative of that.

@TheBrucifer Месяц назад

It will come for longer distance trucking in less than 5 years too.

@ZoomZoomMX3 24 дня назад

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

@st-ex8506 23 дня назад

@@ZoomZoomMX3 In Europe, the number of hours a driver is allowed at the wheel, and the prevalent speed limits and traffic conditions, limit the range of any long-haul truck to around 700 km (430 miles) per day, max! That is within the range of the Tesla Semi, even pulling a full load, for example. And, at the end of the max 9 driving hour day, there are 15 hours to recharge the battery... more than enough on even a car-size DC charger!

@adrianthoroughgood1191 23 дня назад

@@st-ex8506 and if the driver takes their required break at a truck charging stop then there will be range to spare even in winter!

@st-ex8506 23 дня назад

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 Absolutely! And there is no need for "Megachargers" at truck stops. V3 Superchargers, installed in such a way to charge trucks, are all that is needed. Only companies running their trucks two shifts a day will need some more powerful chargers at their bases.

@mikadavies660 Месяц назад

I'm convinced that battery technology and price will make trucks much more affordable within a few years.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

My company has 40 lorries. We make around 15-20k miles every day and use 4-6000 liters diesel every day. Only 6-10 of the trucks make more than 200-250 miles every day on all shifts. That could save thousands every day. They can pay for one lorry every one or two months and still save money from the services and maintenance.

@gilesbrown9361 25 дней назад

The challenge would be to do that change before the competition did it and then undercut your prices

@chrishar110 25 дней назад

@@gilesbrown9361 I don't think that the money that they will save will go to undercut the prices. I think that managers will get a big bonus because they saved that money, even bigger than what they saved.

@joecummings1260 24 дня назад

15-20k miles every day.., You would need like a 4 megawatt electric service to support charging for that kind of daily mileage. Probably cost about 100 million to install the charging, if you are lucky and in a location where there is that much electrical capacity available.

@chrishar110 24 дня назад

@@joecummings1260 We are talking for a company that makes millions. The 350 thousand square feet warehouse cost 30 millions and imagine how many solar panels can be installed on the the roof.

@chrishar110 24 дня назад

@@joecummings1260 We are talking for a company that makes millions, the warehouse that I work is a 30 million, 300,000 square feet building. I think that you can fit a lot of solar panels on that roof. I think that they have more than enough power to charge the 50-100 electric, with lithium battery forklifts 2-3 times every day.

@marvinsamuels1237 28 дней назад

Quiet bin trucks and delivery vans are great for residential areas. There's also the benefit of no exhaust fumes while the vehicle is left idling. What's not to like.

@irokpe6977 22 дня назад

You won't like the range tho.

@marvinsamuels1237 22 дня назад

@@irokpe6977 you will if as the route planner you know your vehicle can cover the route on a single charge.

@citynomad13 8 дней назад

@@irokpe6977 you haven't seen the video, have you...

@winfriedtheis5767 Месяц назад

Great video! And yes Tom, Electric lorries are delivering!👍🤩 I saw a German Trucker/RU-vidr driving the Volvo e-lorry long distance in Germany and he was enjoying it so much, that he concluded that je can't wait until the supporting infrastructure is there and they got more affordable! So an actual trucker said he would love to switch, because it was more fun to drive plus all the other benefits!

@jsundb02 Месяц назад

The first ones can do the shorter routes. And later when batteries improve, it can run the rest.

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

In the UK these vehicles probably can handle every route in the UK, may be with some modifications of some of the routes themselves.

@michaelfields8981 Месяц назад

A BRILLIANT video, Thank You. I think I enjoyed it as much as you enjoyed making it! Thank you!

@richardgledhill Месяц назад

We have at least one electric bin lorry in Oxford and it's simply fantastic - fitting in well with the fully electric fleet of DPD and Royal Mail delivery vehicles, increasing numbers of fully electric buses and even some electric open-top tourist buses! The transformation in noise and emissions is noticeable. We need more of these!

@jontyrocks3 23 дня назад

As a HGV driver that has an electric car, I really can’t wait to try out an electric lorry

@ehughes8829 14 дней назад

I work in logistics. It would be better to have batteries built into all trailers which could be used as a top up to the truck battery. When a driver picks up a trailer it could be fully charged and combined with the batteries on the truck it would extent the distance that can travel. Putting 500 kg of batteries under the floor of a trailer would reduce load capacity but not all trailers are loaded to their total weight capacity. This could work on 40 foot trailers but with rigid trucks that would not be a solution. As a side note. . . Electric vehicles have been used in warehouses for decades and the solution to running an electric forklift or powered pallet truck or any electric vehicle, 24/7 is battery swapping. We've been doing it for decades. Logistics are already experienced with electric vehicles in their warehouses. Extending this experience to delivery vehicles may be challenging but not impossible.

@Finglebat Месяц назад

Light checking button, 👍🏻 "We haven't got the infrastructure!"... I was not thinking about it, I just had a big grin on my face that Nicola was not able to get her words out when starting out with the big wheel. She looked so excited. Oh wait, what about one of these as a fuel delivery truck, the irony 😂 Well done Tom 👏🏻 "Electric trucks could deliver" LMAO 🤣😂

@examinerian Месяц назад

Re: an eHGV delivering petrol or diesel: the irony will have to wait a bit longer as the current regs for fuel delivery are so out of date that it's actually illegal to pull a fuel tanker with a BEV unit. It's just one of the things that a group of industry bodies and government is working to change!

@markbennett6658 Месяц назад

It’ll probably end up delivering batteries? That would be more poetic than ironic!

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

@@markbennett6658 Diesel trucks deliver the car batteries now. Ironic, eh?

@markbennett6658 29 дней назад

@@chrishar110 I said ‘end up’ as in future tense. You miss the point!

@Tobias_M_T Месяц назад

1:32 Thank you! This should get mentioned way more often! It’s about the environment in total, of course, but it’s also about our cities and making it more liveable. Buses, lorries and bin lorries being electric will be amazing!

@JoshuaStringfellow1 Месяц назад

As someone who consistently remembers to put the bins out I'm really looking forward to not being woken up by them at 6am 😂

@mathewritchie 25 дней назад

You are still asleep at 6 am?I am at work then,must be nice to be retired.

@JoshuaStringfellow1 25 дней назад

@@mathewritchie While I'm sure it's nice to be retired, I'm not, my job just starts at 9...like a lot of jobs do.

@st-ex8506 23 дня назад

@@mathewritchie Think of the guys who finish their shift at 12 midnight, and get in bed at 1 am. They would sure appreciate some more quiet at 6!

@examinerian Месяц назад

It gets the ball rolling, then after the first 1000 subsidies the govt reviews the scheme. They did the same for cars, and that's now stopped here in the UK, but currently continue doing the same for trucks and vans as it will make more difference to a wider group of people - one electric bin truck affects a whole neighbourhood.

@Flyingtwiglet Месяц назад

Another cracking video. Informative and entertaining. Top job team 😀👍

@James_Ryan Месяц назад

They are easier to drive which should help with recruitment.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

Do you think that diesel lorries are harder to drive? The last time I saw a lorry with manual transmision was 10-12 years ago and it was the only one in the fleet and replaced rhe same year. You just put it on D, and go. You don't even have to engage or release the hand brake. Just get in, turn the key (or push a button) push another button and go.

@James_Ryan 29 дней назад

@@chrishar110 Good to know. Shows how long since I drove one... 🤣

@waylaid 29 дней назад

Nicola is spot on about the biggest benefits of EVs - cleaner, quieter streets. I live on a main road and for us, and especially others living on even busier roads, this will, eventually, make a profound difference. If we can start generating much more renewable energy and get the grid up to speed, the future will look pretty rosy.

@mikadavies660 Месяц назад

6mpg vs a car at 35mpg car.... So the battery size almost equates. If is massively obvious that certain lorries should be electric.

@keithhokeili 29 дней назад

Another advantage of using cameras instead of mirrors, is that cameras don't block your view of incoming traffic at junctions such as roundabouts .

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

Another is that you can then start putting things in like automated Bike and pedestrian recognition system in place that will stop the truck if it at risk of hitting one.

@stuartgifford8672 Месяц назад

Amazing, need to introduce this asap

@PaulMeier-cu3ds Месяц назад

What huge fun and a glorious preview. Firstly Mercedes, not my favourite manufacturer, just went up about ten notches in my view. Secondly this is just the sort of thing which distinguishes Electrifying from other car review channels. Finally I hope I never have to drive any of the vehicles previewed; I want a Brabus or a Mini.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

I still remember how many seconds I lost in my life waiting to choose a gear at the roundabouts. I am happier the last 4 years working for a company that has only Volvos

@wdazza Месяц назад

A great opportunity missed! How can you do a segment on bin lorries that are constantly stopping and not mention the benefits of regen braking?

@TheJoeT81 Месяц назад

So much regen in stop-start! Interestingly the machinery in the back uses more juice than one would expect. I hear that where the Lunaz bin lorry struggled.

@dogbreath6974 23 дня назад

They did mention about regen, did you watch all of it?.

@MrMorton Месяц назад

⚡ This is excellent! ⚡ These will also dramatically reduce noise pollution

@karlwest437 Месяц назад

Nicola having the time of her life 😂

@DanielEarlester Месяц назад

Naked and nothing going on around the back. The story of my life 😒🤣

@markc293 Месяц назад

Great video, thanks

@Pottery4Life Месяц назад

Thank you.

@Bobthepragmatist 27 дней назад

I would love for pence per mile and fuel/energy per year costs to be a standard part of auto reviews. Also please start doing kWh per 100km comparisons for their petrol and diesel equivalents. Petrol and diesel is just a form of energy storage that is then turned into motion.

@dewarmc 29 дней назад

"My tongue's out, I'm concentrating" said Nicola, I found very amusing, but I am envious, I'd love a taste of that sort of Driving experience... another great review :-)

@liamg5632 Месяц назад

Nicola! Brilliant driving, better than most truckers I know! But they are on the road :) Seriously though, if these vehicle can do 4.5 hours driving and charge while having a tacho break that is awesome. There is infrastructure in Norway or Sweden that do have HGV's charging, separate from cars, so why can't it be here? Great episode, this is here and now, the cost of servicing and fuel will off set the initial pricing. Pricing should come down as more are built or bought. Let's have long haulage vehicles going to hubs and then short haulage vehicles going into towns and cities, I hated going into London in my HGV but was happy trunking around the UK. Great content, keep up the good work Electrifying!! :)

@Stepbystep74 23 дня назад

Gotta be a safety benefit as well if you can hear what’s going on the other side of the lorry without the idling diesel

@rohankilby4499 21 день назад

Great episode guys thanks, loving the future that’s going to be quiet and lots less smelly 😁👍

@gibroon4418 Месяц назад

Good to see some progress with trucks. I've always thought this was going to be a bit of a stumbling block for the adoption to electric. We have electric buses now in our city and they have dropped the noise significantly. There are still quite a few ICE buses going about and you really notice the noise and smell of them compared to EV buses.

@ZoomZoomMX3 24 дня назад

I live in Canada my uncle was a trucker he would and truckers still do 12 hours a day especially on the lobg hauls which most here and in USA are ... Thats about a 1000 kilometers a day at least but many days they do more

@urbanspaceman7183 27 дней назад

The quoted ranges, loaded or empty? What is the payload capacity compared with a diesel truck? For light weight loads I can see this working if volume capacity is less than weight capacity but, with heavy loads, not so sure. In my opinion it's horses for courses.

@Cyrribrae 24 дня назад

Huh. I hadn't thought of that mandated driving time and break schedule. Stopping for 45 minutes ever 4.5 hours is actually quite substantial. And I'm almost kinda shocked at how slow these fast charge. With big batteries (and I understand these are actually several small batteries), the potential for fast charging is huge. After all, the Silverado EV has a battery that is half the size of the full size truck/lorry, but charges at more than twice the rate. First of all, even if you put two of those batteries in, the weight is probably quite manageable overall, considering the Silverado packs it all into a much smaller package. The Silverado takes 1 hour and 15 minutes to fill up all 200+ kWh completely, which means you can get WELL over 50% in 45 minutes (it charges much faster up to 30%). And interestingly, it's NOT using 800V architecture. It's using a similar split battery 400V system just like these trucks are, but with some engineering that allows it to put them in series while charging to access much faster speeds. Still not at 0->100% in 45 minutes, but potentially 0>80%? Getting pretty close to that necessary range - and that's at 350kw. It'd be nice to avoid having to install megawatt chargers everywhere (fast charging at that rate are going to be higher and less efficient).

@hanswallner2188 24 дня назад

Electric trucks will be even a much bigger story than cars, as trucks usually drive high mileage the savings (both for environment and cost savings) are HUGE. Range will go up constantly as batteries evolve and it's about time to stop burning diesel, time to go electric :-)

@RedBatteryHead Месяц назад

Mercedes really got some great Trucks there!

@99unclebob Месяц назад

Great review ,I wish they'd do it here in Central Canada where i live we have the 2nd cheapest electricity in Canada and its all water generated, the garbage collecting trucks here noisy as hell and we all have alley ways and with those trucks you just have shown us with the rear steering on them would be a great option for them here, and all our trucks are separate, household waste, then recycled materials , and yard waste during the spring,summer and fall months and i have had to install a camera on the front of my garage to keep them from hitting the corner of it and my approach shattering the concrete on the corner from the weight of the trucks, are only issue is the extreme winters we have for 6 months is temps that are regularly -25 -30 Celsius ,batteries wouldn't last long at all, here is to hoping the new battery chemistry is a viable solution for these issues 👍

@FrankieLimes Месяц назад

Trucking naked. Is there any other way for your first time 😂

@PLUGINJAMAICA Месяц назад

These trucks would work well in Jamaica. Good review.

@mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

Cheers

@ObiePaddles 29 дней назад

At 1:30 you said you can’t deny the impact of zero emissions. I have people who say ‘with adblue the exhaust is cleaner than when it came into the engine. Can’t make this stuff up.

@WindyM 26 дней назад

True, but still polluting CO² though.

@ObiePaddles 26 дней назад

@@WindyM ?

@blobstrom Месяц назад

My concern with the megawatt charging would be how many can you install in one place, because there will be more than one articulated truck pulling in to recharge at once, therefore you'll need some sort of onsite battery store

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

A couple of wind turbines, a few hundreds of solar panels on the roof of the building and a few container size batteries can do the job easily. They cost a lot, but pay themselves in a couple of years.

@Yanquetino Месяц назад

I would've loved to be a fly in the cabin with Nicola driving these lorries. I'd like to see the humongous chargers for these beasts: they must crank out huge amounts of DC power to fill up those batteries! I've never even sat in a hauler like these, but my impression is that the drivers' biggest challenge is how to turn corners with those long tails behind them, cutting across several lanes in the process. Let's see you two take some corners next time!

@WindyM 26 дней назад

Electric is great but... 7:23 let's be honest, cam mirrors are not good for HGVs as there is no depth / distance perception, it's like looking with one eye. I cannot get the same accuracy as when I have a real mirror. 8:35 that's why we always drive with a two man crew, so that you can drive 20 hours continuous and the limit is only the drivers' bladder! Fine for small islands, but not good for continental long-distance routes as the truck has to stop for at least 9 hours daily rests.

@mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

Good afternoon Tom and Nicola

@stevendunn264 Месяц назад

I would love to see an RV conversion.

@M-TRON Месяц назад

Nicola is an electrifying EV - she brings excitement :)

@oliver90owner 26 дней назад

UK speeds are 50mph (non-motorway, I believe) and 50mph on other roads. Some places say 60mph on dual carriageways, but I think not. EU is restricted to 56mph, so I expect many trucks have alternative restriction kit for international deliveries.

@AllInVehicleInspections 20 дней назад

40mph on single carriageway, 50 on dual carriageway and 60 on motorway, but most trucks are limited to 56mph

@oliver90owner 20 дней назад

@@AllInVehicleInspections Don’t think so. Do check up on the single carriageway. I am sure it has been 50mph for several years (since 2015?). In fact, Scotland was still 40mph apart from they raised the limit on the A9(?)because the road haulage crew warned of a boycott of northern Scotland if it wasn’t changed from 40mph. Current-day Scotland speed limits for HGVs over 7.5 tonnes may have changed. I do think it is 50mph on non-motorway dual carriageways but I could be corrected on that one.

@AllInVehicleInspections 20 дней назад

@oliver90owner my bad, 50, 60 and 60, except Scotland, 40, 50, 60

@Skiridr22 Месяц назад

What’s the difference in range when they fully loaded in the case of then hauling cargos?

@Electrifyingcom Месяц назад

The quoted range figures are with half payload.

@richardfoster2021 22 дня назад

DAM Good video. More like this Thanks

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

An PR people, going green is as a good business decision. I suspect supermarkets will be the first to buy these on mass, probably start later this year or next.

@douglaskinloch6272 28 дней назад

The EU mandated driver breaks are why EV trucks will work in Europe first.

@anthonypert574 21 день назад

So what about the electricity How's it made I wonder What about the hydraulics how do they work what about battery how long to degrade how much to charge it when we get a power cut which we do then what What about winter running in the freezing fog with heating headlights wipers flashing beacons the extra weight on the already unloved rds The list goes on

@HLF31528376 24 дня назад

11:25 the company I work for plans to take five Mercedes eActros 600 into service by the end of 2024, early 2025. Since I only have two years of work left until I retire, I have applied and maybe will be on the list for a e600

@adrianthoroughgood1191 23 дня назад

Hope you get one! They ought to bear in mind the other drivers will have their turn later!

@slavko321 23 дня назад

No Tesla Semi?:P Everybody loves trucks.

@geirvinje2556 19 дней назад

Norway are ready. But, the trucking industry needs to get serius. Norway are ready to deploy chargers for trucks that can charge 1MW. Here someone needs to make a standard. If Tesla contacted the government in Norway, something could be done about it. Or, others. The trucks are not made for charging on car infrastructures.

@ianparker1456 17 дней назад

Good argument against solar, charging at night

@TassieEV Месяц назад

You didn't explicitly mention it but remember fleet operators don't look just at sticker price they look at TCO and that would include servicing, maintenance, tyres, fuel, longevity, reliability, sustainability over the life of the vehicle which for them could be 10yrs. For those that complain they can't hear them so miss the pickup put their bins out the night before like the rest of us.

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

An when it come to rubbish trucks, it also political, if enough people demand councils to electrify their rigs, they will find the money to do it.

@mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

Nicola looks good driving a Wagon 😆

@ihaynes9176 17 дней назад

All sound good. But is not the elephant in the room is "where is the charging infrastructure". You regually see lorries parking in slip road on motorway service stations how are they going to charge there lorries. Lorries park in lay-bys on country roads by me. Are they going to put charging station there. The lad from Mercedes talks about 800V 1Mw chargers It going to take a very long time to put all that in place . just look on the issues of suppling charging stations for cars.

@patrickh7368 Месяц назад

Looking good….always good but if these are 3x price of ICE then I see the shipped contents going £up, shame it’s more stuff with overseas badges on….😢

@fleachamberlain1905 Месяц назад

Mercedes should consider battery swapping instead of charging for the really big truck batteries.

@tonybarton3746 Месяц назад

Imagine one with vtg you could power your house for a month 😊👍 and reference dustbin collection, your dustbin is a robotic and a sensor picks up when the truck is around and puts it out front Simples 😂😊👍

@Paul-yh8km Месяц назад

It's a pity that Lunaz Applied Technologies went into administration. They started a business that converted diesel bin lorries to battery and fully refurbished the cab etc.

@Simon-dm8zv 27 дней назад

1:14 eTcetera!

@TheJoeT81 Месяц назад

Slowest hill route lap ever? 😅

@KP-xi4bj 18 дней назад

Tesla Semi already beat MB to the punch. Pepsi Co. already has a fleet of Tesla Semis.

@IXISSV Месяц назад

Our council have a fleet of electric bin trucks, yes they are quiet, the rubbish going in the back is the noisy part 😂😂 they haven't got any electric recycling trucks yet tho 🙄

@parshakamarsh 27 дней назад

It would certainly be interesting to see how one of those electric bin wagons would cope with a battery fire like we've seen with EV's and electric bikes

@cru3r5h 26 дней назад

I’ve never heard of EV’s having a battery fire, I assume like any piece of technology there are isolated examples of failures. Do you have evidence of this being a substantial problem?

@cru3r5h 25 дней назад

@@valleyofiron125thanks. Yes and I am aware of all that - my new thing is to ask the potential trolls to provide evidence to support their bold, and usually false, statements. As you point out there is a critical difference between fire risk, in terms of initiation, and firefighting requirements

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

That why they move to Lithium iron phosphate, which is chemically incapable of catching fire. An are cheaper. An work better in winter.

@parshakamarsh 24 дня назад

@@cru3r5h I don't appreciate being called a troll if that comment was aimed at me, I was asking a genuine question about battery safety. Just recently there have been a couple of major fires IN the UK in multi story car parks causing major damage which has been put down to battery failure in an EV. That's enough to make me question their safety, which I think is quite reasonable

@cru3r5h 24 дня назад

@@parshakamarsh and apologies, I did say potential troll. But please look at the evidence, EV traction batteries do not randomly catch fire and are statistically safer than current technologies. No one questions driving large bombs around on are road, which is effectively what a tanker full of hydrocarbons is. And as others have pointed out new battery chemistry has further reduced or removed an already extremely low risk.

@grahamcastle8189 Месяц назад

How many trucks do you see going at a maximum of 56 mph? In my experience damned few. 😮

@AuntieBuddie Месяц назад

That's why it's a maximum. Often cars drivers slow them down esp if they drive to close and can't be seen. 56mph is not a target.

@hughM9 Месяц назад

Ever been up & down the English motorways? 😉

@kimmeddies6689 Месяц назад

Most are doing more

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

@@kimmeddies6689 These have Irish plates or Irish drivers, LOL.

@spsmith45 Месяц назад

A future with non-diesel trucks is attractive. Nu fumes, less noise.

@hughM9 Месяц назад

That’s what’s really needed if we’re to decarbonise transport. Cars are actually marginal

@user-xu5vl5th9n Месяц назад

The only figure that counts is payload efficiency. As for recharging a truck with solar power, good luck with that one.

@Jon-cu4kv Месяц назад

At least double to 3x the price of a ICE truck…..erm….

@riaz8783 Месяц назад

Bin trucks and local deliveries, yep fab. Long range lorries? Ehhh. Is it more eco than putting 400kWh of lithium in 7 cars instead? I'm not sure.

@4literv6 28 дней назад

7 cars driven an average of 12,000 miles a year at 25+mpg or 1 tesla/other large ev semi used by say Pepsi and saving 8-10,000 gallons of diesel fuel a year at 7#per gallon in just fuel weight alone. I've done the math many times 1 semi makes more sense enviormentally speaking.

@o-_-ojb Месяц назад

How heavy are they? I’m assuming the battery pack alone is somewhere close to 10K lbs. Won’t it eat into the amount they’re rated to haul?

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

Only 15% of the lorries in UK pull more than 80% of the max payload. 30% of the total milleage is with empty trucks.

@bikeaddictbp 25 дней назад

If they are near 160 Wh/kg (about where LFP should be) then each battery module will weigh about 700 kg, so 2800 kg (6000 lbs) for the one with 4 modules. But there's no diesel engine, and those big diesel engines are heavy, so the total weight penalty shouldn't be all that bad.

@Afrikashoxx Месяц назад

Is Electrifying on Patreon?

@ZoomZoomMX3 24 дня назад

But that's still up to each driver driving at 100 kph well over the range any these ev trucks can handle

@peterjol 14 дней назад

There are so many videos 'against' electric transport and I really don't understand why. The transition can't come fast enough for me. There is NOTHING to be against.

@stevenhorne5089 21 день назад

"Could they fit in"? Nope! At least not into a country with more than 1 time zone.

@nottmfunguy Месяц назад

90 miles of range, that is useless for a long distance trucker. Don't tell me it takes 4 hours to charge up. As for bin EV lorries that was tried in Nottingham and failed. In fact the company who supplied them is now out of business.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

A bin lorry doesn't make 90 miles every day. You don't need more. Do the bin lorries have 300 gallon diesel tanks? So why should they have bigger battery? Dennis still makes these lorries, they are not out of business, they may have some financial issues but developing an electric lorry is not cheap. Don't forget, they have to fight with huge companies that make diesel engines.

@Harrythehun Месяц назад

Who is the Mother Trucker?

@vasm1807 28 дней назад

EV trucks are a massive need in cities, the noise and smoke that diesels make is soooo annoying

@bordersw1239 Месяц назад

It’s like people think bin lorries just go house to house. Hint - when they are full they drive to the landfill site to empty. That’s a forty mile round trip and happens more than once per shift where I live.

@karlwest437 Месяц назад

I'm sure whoever is in charge of buying and running them has considered that

@kimmeddies6689 Месяц назад

@@karlwest437I doubt it if they are inept as our council

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

The driver and workers still HAVE to have a break. Forty miles away? do they tip them to another county?

@bordersw1239 29 дней назад

@@chrishar110 I presume English isn’t your first language?

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

@@bordersw1239 Yes, it's not, I speak 3 more languages and my first one is Greek. How many can you speak?

@rare_wubbox360 23 дня назад

Well, Mercedes better up their game and offer lower price BEV trucks fast

@neillgatley8770 Месяц назад

My spicy comments are scotch bonnet and jalapeno.

@paulbuckingham15 Месяц назад

Carolina Reaper.

@ehughes8829 14 дней назад

The first white truck. There is a rattle in the cabin. Very, very annoying.

@TheJoeT81 Месяц назад

Any plans to talk to Vauxhall once their FCEV van trials are under way? 👍

@thelifeofbatteries2603 25 дней назад

It's obvious you're not a trucker when you say a rigid is easier to drive than an artic, try it in a city centre and see the difference. 12 point turn anyone 🤣 Also a modern bin lorry will be seeing 11-15mpg, my 28tonne empty Scania artic does 7mpg

@Electrifyingcom 24 дня назад

The 9mpg figure came from a local authority study. Mercedes think about 8mpg is right.

@DavidKnowles0 24 дня назад

Most probably aren't modern vehicles. Also MPG degrades over the life time of the vehicle.

@jaaklucas1329 Месяц назад

If we can electrify trucking it would make us all oxygen breathers happy.Diesel trucking makes way more pollution than cars. Electric powertrain is so much better.

@markrozee Месяц назад

I have 3x 15-minute breaks at farms. I collect milk.

@chrishar110 29 дней назад

You can't have 3 X 15 min breaks. It's either one 15 and one 30 mins or a 45 one.

@urbanstrencan Месяц назад

This is what we need for inner city delivery , trash collection, and all other City jobs. Also when are you driving Tesla Semi 😅

@markrozee Месяц назад

I love my EV car, but my £300K truck has to be constantly on the move to make money. I do 11 hour shift, then night driver does the same. NO chance of any charging 😢

@gibroon4418 Месяц назад

You do 11 hours without a break?

@ZoomZoomMX3 24 дня назад

Look at the making if these batteries the mining destruction is exploding in the poorest areas that was clean until these nightmares were created. Look at any graph on amounts of mining pollution amd project it out with the amounts of used materials for these to replace internal combustion... Then look at the electrical requirements we could do it with either have wind everywhere and panels with farming everywhere

@adrianthoroughgood1191 23 дня назад

It's still much less polluting than drilling for, shipping and refining Diesel.

@paulheald3099 Месяц назад

We have two EV's one a full BEV and one range extender BMW . We have had them both about three years now and the vehicles and their respective batteries are great . These vehicles are great for what we use them for local journeys , it is when we want to do a long journey that the UK charging infastructure shows itself to be woefully lacking . That is why we will get rid of the BEV and get a PHEV next , then we are not relying on woeful infastructure in the UK .