I remember when I first got my mount at level 40, I literally jumped for joy and cheered like a madman. Having to walk everywhere was such a pain and it felt so good to have that mount. never had that level of satisfaction with a game before... lol
I just recently got back into WoW after 4 years. And Classic is the only reason why. The grinding, traveling, socialising and rewards made vanilla so great.
I only started playing WoW for the first time because of Classic. I tried in WoD but everyone just wanted to rush dungeons, so I said "What is even the point to play an MMORPG if you are doing it alone"
@Stoogs Actually, the guild's name was, in fact, We have Mankirk's Wife. You see, back when I played wow, I wasn't someone that gave special care to the way some Blizzard employee decided to spell the name. I was just a kid looking to make a joke. So thanks for trying to tell me how I spelled my own guild name 9 months after I posted about it on a RU-vid comment hoping to spread the joke elsewhere, you grammar nazi douchenozzle.
Classic levelling was a therapeutic experience, calm and smooth which is what alot of people want after a hard days work. In retail, somehow levelling feels more stressful even though its "easier".
How is being able to throw on heirlooms, never having to eat or drink, not having to worry about gear cuz it levels with you, never worrying about dying, having self heals no matter what your class, having a mount at level 1, and being able to use dungeon finder until max level while never leaving org or stormwind better?
The point about power ups is probably my most favourite aspect of classic. One level you're struggling and with the next level or maybe a new item you're suddenly having a much easier time. It feels so good
I know right. Like I had a BoE wand drop as a frost mage at like level 13 or something, and it was so much better than what I had, I was literally doing more dps only wanding instead of using my abilities lol.... or WW axe on warrior. Feels amazing
The Barrens had cool wildlife. Especially for hunters. There was the white lion you could get from a quest(by failing it, cause you tamed the lion, instead of killing it) or the black lion that has an extremely high respawn timer so you had to camp the zone in days for a chance to tame him.
@@cornman9937 I've got them both in a Wotlk private server. For Humar(the black one) you just need to camp the spot and log in from time to time. The tricky part is his spawn time is long af and it's in a low lvl zone so a lot of players that pass by either tame him(understandable) or kill him(cause they're either trolls or don't know any better)...but if you've got nothing better to do with your free time...you might as well camp him😂
10:00 Having had a hunter as a first character in wow I only have one thing to say... Yeah ! It felt so good being the only one able to easily farm mobs 5-7 levels higher than me in the highlands :'D
@@TheBrazilRules it was more difficult than hunters, but easier than most melee. You were squishy, and since you were facing higher level mobs, your 'frost' spells would likely miss, causing the mob to quickly reach you and kill you. You could handle it by blinking or kiting away, and maybe landing a polymorph, but it would depend on rng. You just had to be ready to reset if the rng wasn't in your favor in some of the key spells, like the first frost bolt or two
That hunter quest with Onyxia... where you had to kill 3 different elites solo... was insane and made you use all your hunter skills, kiting, ice trap, eat, damage... etc.
Barrens is WoW to me. The only thing I remember with fondness. I felt connected and one with it. Im glad I played Vanilla back then. I dont think Id be able to capture that feelingg ever again. I play the new Classic while it brings nostalgia as, it doesnt feel the same because of the awareness that there is another version/way of playing the game (retail). Retail robs me that feeling but its all good. I’m just glad it happend.
Quests like the zebras were meant to do with other quests on your way. But very true they scattered all over the zone without knowledge where spawns point are. Barrens is my best memory of vanilla when I played horde and I mainly played alliance. So that says a lot. I want a time machine just to go back
Mankirk's wife is definitely more popular than hogger. I only ran into Hogger later on when people spoke about its popularity. Maybe that's because I started WoW in TBC, idk.
Asmon hates old Barrens wow what a douche. I thought he was a cool guy but this definitely gives him a lots of minus points. Cataclysm splitting nostalgic Barrens in half was one of the reasons I quit... Well, at least he says "It's better to have a bad zone that you're forced to go through than a good zone that is forgettable"
I've been playing since WOTLK and its the first time i heard about a quest to kill Hogger, i knew of the guy but not of the quest. Besides, the most popular quest is the second one given in the Orc zone where they'll tell you to kill a bunch of boars.
Blizzard didn't specifically choose Alliance first, but rather Eastern Kingdoms first. All evidence in the game files points to this (mobs that appear in EK had lower IDs than Kalimdor exclusive mobs, instance map IDs in EK are all lower, and so on). However because 3/4 Horde start in Kalimdor, Horde zones got screwed, but if you notice, the one Horde race is Eastern Kingdoms is much better than the zones of the one Alliance race in Kalimdor. Even just comparing something like end game zones. EPL was in good shape, while the game released with Silithus essentially unfinished.
Horde cities were designed with logic in mind. Orcs and trolls are going to build huts. Not beautiful cities. The lore of the tauren make sense that they live on a hill. Just like it makes sense humans built stormwind, and dwarfs built ironforge.
I never played past TBC and it sounds like I kinda missed out on WOTLK, but missed out on nothing else. Classic has been such an amazing trip down memory lane. Got a bunch of Alliance topped out and now just leveling my first Horde in 16 years. Oh, Barrens.. How I missed you. And Orgrimmar.
Cutting Teeth is probably the most known WoW quest. The first Orc quest killing boars in VoT. Think how many times you've seen killing those boars referenced but never being told that the person in the reference is there to kill the boars and that the task is incredibly easy. You just already know as soon as you see it.
I never understood the whole "Mankriks wife" thing, the quest litteraly states to look for a small camp on the gold road. 25:19 There's only one. I get the meme now but people saying it was hard in vanilla just couldn't read.
You grabbed Mankirk's quest in the Crossroads (Northern Barrens) and almost everyone with that quest at the time didn't know what the Gold Road was. Telling someone to go down the Gold Road with 0 reference point is virtually meaningless. I can guess that back then people were literally looking for a gold-colored road.
Not to mention you said "couldn't read" as a joke, but in many cases that was actually legit the reason why. Especially for EU. I was 10 when I started playing and didn't understand most english words, I had to guess what they meant a lot of the time. I think I have 10 humans stuck in Goldshire because I didn't know where the kobold mine was at.
@@VitoPlaysGames bro when the quest in un goro crater told me to go to winterspring, and I'm just left wondering where the fuck that is, and then I had never been to felwood, so I didn't even know how to get there when I found it lol
@@ISesseriI And then you finally found the way to Winterspring the fuckin furbolgs killing you in that tunnel, because you missed the Timbermaws prequest for that tunnel
@@danieljackson3138 this was my exact experience lmao, I actually had a bit of negative rep but I avoided them on the return trips by flying until I finally grabbed the first quest
My most satisfying moment was getting exalted with Darnassus as a human. Hitting 60 and hopping on my Nightsaber had me feeling like a badass. Meanwhile my gear was garbage and I had no intention of raiding. That was my endgame goal. The world was so big and you really felt like you were making an investment in your character when you stuck to the grind.
I never got why Asmon was so pissed the servers went down at level 59. I mean it's not like he played classic anyways. His viewers played the game for him. Either standing around in town collecting hundreds/thousands of gold, letting people just bring him all the mats he needed for legendaries or crafted purps, watching videos and shit while they essentially boosted him through dungeons, or being completely okay with him just master looting himself every piece of gear he wanted though the majority of fights he was either tabbed out or made really dumb calls during a fight. No wonder he got burnt out on classic so fast.
I remember just getting on a flight path and going downstairs to eat. Things took forever, but it felt so good to get a mount, complete a dungeon or getting a new ability.
uh yeah, he said 80% questing in RETAIL. He literally said you get most of your exp from killing mobs in Classic, which yknow comes under running istances 95% of the time. Work on your comprehension friendo
even then you don't exactly fight anything either, like 2-3 fight and its done. elites are not elite anymore and bosses in terms of dungeons just have loads of health. there is no RPG, no grind no progression, no sense of gaining or doing something difficult its easy its lazy.
Personally, I prefer the old system. Starting off as a weak scrub, only to end up as a god of war after countless trials and tribulations, it's an unmatched feeling. You feel like you earned your might, that you have actually grown. At the same time, the downtime, having to eat and drink after fights, and the long travel times, it all made the game feel that much more like a classical adventure, where you go out into the wilderness, and struggle to survive. It kind of reminded me of D&D the first time I played, which I loved. Playing as a Hunter, shooting your prey, cooking them into your next meal, and making your next gear upgrade out of the hide you skin off them, it was a genuine experience.
So my first character was horde, even though I didn't make it past level 20, I will never forget the barrens. The first time I came to cross roads there was an alliance raid going on and I instantly died. It was my first taste of pvp. I resurrected and jumped right back in the fray only to get one shot my a 60 mage. Us lowbies asked for help and in a few minutes some high levels showed up. It turned into a long hard battle. From that point on I was hooked (until cata). I ended up going alliance because it reminded me of lord of the rings and orcs were bad lol, but I spent so much time just chatting and leveling in the barrens its the reason why, even though I have a 50 hour a week job, housework, and kids, I made time to come back for classic and at least make it to 60. I came back one other time for wrath and got to 80. No more time for raiding, but I will come back one more time for the hardcore server. I probably won't last more than a month but I'll see you guys there very soon.
1 thing i wish the guy mentioned for classic was for US hunters we didn't have unlimited ammo back then, where we had to keep track of arrows/ bullets and if we ran out like in dungeons, we had to resort to melee which like half our abilities were useless and those were out strong ones.
I fucking loved Barrens chat lmao it was so dumb but memorable. PvP at the barrens was fun as a high level it felt cool to defend your small town. Also, deadmines was one of my favorite dungeons of all time.
I'd say most horde quest hubs are bigger designed. Look at the wrath of the lich king zones. The horde has bigger bases in every zone. Right when you first get to northrend, the horde has a giant castle and the same is seen in a lot of zones in northrend.
13:30 loved the down time as it meant that I had time to chat whit people be it party members, guild members or just randoms in /general. meaning that I got time to help that guy find that odd quest or be helped whit the same quest 30 min earlier.
Most memorable quests for me were because of their names - "What the Flux?" And "Kickin' Nass and takin manes" 🤣🤣🤣 being level 60 and well geared relatively early in WoW i always heeded the call of "The Crossroads are under attack!!!". Before BG's that shot was so fun. Theres end up being an hour + long battle as more and more people would show up to defend/attack. Inplayed on Illidan which always had a high amount of Horde (though Alliance was tge karger population in Vanilla). So unlike Asmo and his lame alliance friends, we usually wiped out the allies in due time. Either eay it was fun.
I legitimately miss the Timeless Isle and pandaria, it may be my nostalgia since MoP was the first time I had finally made it to max level but I really enjoyed the story and themes of that xpac
I remember reading a levelling guide back in classic that was basically "Go here, kill these until you hit this level, then go here kill these for the next three levels, then go here and kill these for two more levels..."
Why didn't blizzard leave the old zones as they were and make the new zones (devided barrens, desolace, badlands etc.) high level zones where you could level from 80 to 90?
20:36 what is orgrimmar? It's a city that you can actually run around in, without getting lost multiple times before reaching your destination, Unlike stormwind.
About the alliance zones being better and someone in chat saying ehat about the undercity. Undercity was an alliance zone (in lore) that was taken over to become horse so its design is literally based on the alliance lol.
had to get hit capped, then mp5 until diminishing returns, no AEO farms, a lot of divine intervention or swapping to Bear form, mob retreat add mechanicsd so fear was a gamble, tanking was an endeavor of mitigation stats, healing was slim margin healing rotations before OOM. "Innervate me bro". "I cant im in Bear". WATER MADE YOU DISMOUNT. let me repeat. ANY bit of water made your mount disappear. Mounts could not swim. Were talkin puddles. reagents... using gear not for your armor tier. Cloth druids, Leather hunters. Gear transition at lvl 40.
Yeah mained as a gnome rogue since a few months into vanilla release. Going back to classic I tried a Druid and holy shit it’s even harder Pve than rogue. First 15 lvls was sweaty tryharding melee with a 2h staff to kill 1 quillboar with Tauren racial cd’s and food buff and no bandage or potion cuz my one single backpack was filled with gather quest items.
Have good and bad memories in the old Barrens. But i miss the time there :D I was in the Horde (German Server) and when the alliance was taking over crossroad, than the high level horde came and helped us :D
I just did that zebra hooves quest. Started yesterday and finished today. It took fucking hours and the drop chance truly were as horrible how i recall it.
well on retail like 1-2 years ago that plainstrider quest in barrens was (idk atm) probably worse than most classic quests i've done so far in terms of drop rate
Isn’t the point that your character has technically done the whole saving Azeroth and whatnot so he would be a walking god until you fight the endgame new bad guys?
I feel like the hate for the Barrens is weird. You pick up all the quests when u get there at like level 11 and basically every mob is the zone is killable for a quest. You gotta kill the raptors for their heads, zebra for the hoofs, centaurs for the bracelets, and more I don't remember the names of. The zone is large but its par for the course in vanilla questing in terms of what you actually do, even the distances you gotta run. Imagine being horde in the hinterlands and your fucking city is on the shore at the bottom of the cliffs.
Aah.. the mounts.. I had to borrow 40g to buy my lvl 40 mount, and then I never got an epic mount until tbc. This was pretty common for max lvl players
19:50 - Both factions matter. Even if you're hardcore Aliance, without the Horde, Aliance would loose it's meaning and the other way around. Just like there's no hero without a villain for the hero to fight.
Just playing Classic and Burning Crusade Classic, sort of just giving me a headache. I just hate when I'm leveling as a Warrior class that I have to deal with like 3 to 4 enemies at once, it's not the best feeling at all. And I'm mostly soloing myself. Looting for quest items is a pain in the ass in both Classic and Burning Crusade Classic. There should've been quality of life improvements in both classics, without some of the necessary add-on features. Like 1 the Map minimization, 2 Quest tracking, 3 during questing your guaranteed a quest item for each mob kill instead of going after every 3 to 4 kill each time. 4 not make it so dang punishing for solo leveling players. Like why should I have to be so heavy reliant on partying up with other players just to get through questing. The only time I would ever want party up is whenever I go do Dungeons and Raids. 5 I wish they would implemented the dungeon finder, I just don't want to use the chat to find players plus it takes to much time to literally find players in the same server.
in retail when a tank says he 'pulled' most of the time he means he charged into the attack. In vanilla you really have to learn to pull a mob with a ranged weapon and fight in an area that you and your party controlled. this is why we old farts from vanilla regard vanilla to wotlk tanking as very different and much better than modern retail tanking. hopefully this kind of pulling and interrupts, damage mitigation, etc will reappear in retail because people have been playing classic. More players will be ready for mythic dungeons and high end raiding guilds because they learned their trade in classic.
I don’t think you can “plan” an area like the Barrens. Players made it “The Barrens” organically. Was it unbalanced in favor of another faction? Probably. Did it define a particular era in WoW history? Pretty much. Is it an enigmatic design decision that most likely could not have been pre-planned to achieve such a specific purpose? Absolutely. Hopefully the creators can celebrate their successes (ESPECIALLY the unintentional ones) and pave the way for new organic, unintentional awesomeness like The Barrens. Even though I died dozens of times to get that one semi-rare lion hunter pet while I was there, the tension was worth it and absolutely memorable.
"It's definitely Hogger!" Who the fuck is Hogger o_O? 2 minutes of Googling later: oh... Exclusive Alliance quest. No wonder I never heard of the blighter...
the guy who made the video is definitely a noob "4 hours to complete a low level dungeon" "1 hour to collect 4 zhevra hooves" "months to complete levelling in the barrens" bruh
"When we took over Crossroads, we had to leave because it was getting sad" No, you didn't? Your ass was beaten up by max lvl horde players? Strange that you guys forget it.
Everyone going on about how levelling is the whole game then classic actually comes out and everyone speedruns through leveling as fast as they can and everyone's 60 in 2 weeks
What kind of transformation and character development is it in new wow? You go from being OP in leveling and then OP at lvl 60? The only growth you see is that number that says you are stronger, but the feeling remains flat throughout the entire game.
Coming from burning crusade playing with friends to being dissapoimted untill bfa classic go me hooked way to much the rewardimg for investimg so much damn time feels way to good
