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WIll automatic transmission fluid (ATF) work as a replacement for engine oil in the crankcase? Does ATF as good or better than engine oil? Does it "clean" sludge better than engine oil? Let's find out!
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Комментарии : 5 тыс.   
@robertharkins5737
@robertharkins5737 3 года назад
I remember my father accidently topped his oil off with ATF. He was all upset and asked a guy we knew, who was a guy like you. He had a farm and fixed things all the time, and he said not to worry. He was right, nothing ever happened. So I was curious about this video, I really appreciate your work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thanks so much!
@user-pq6mr6op3p
@user-pq6mr6op3p Год назад
Your father didn't know that?.... I bet he cried alot too.
@thedarkdragon89
@thedarkdragon89 10 месяцев назад
I did that once too, my dad is a mechanic and I figured it was fine, he confirmed that it's fine.
@shannonmurphy6567
@shannonmurphy6567 6 месяцев назад
I did the same thing, a few months ago. I didn't read the bottle. Went to to it off again, and finally noticed the label.
@rustneversleeps01
@rustneversleeps01 3 месяца назад
You can use transmission fluid in power steering also. But don't ever use power steering fluid in transmission ever
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 4 года назад
Man, I'm on a PF binge today. I'm just so frickin exhausted of questioning whether or not I'm being lied to. Your integrity is a sanctuary.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thanks for watching.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Awesome! Thank you very much!
@jeffarcher400
@jeffarcher400 5 дней назад
Imagine PFN- Project Farm News. Where it's not News till it's proven.
@buck12210
@buck12210 4 года назад
When I bought my 2009 dodge ram 5.7 (15000 miles) it had a sticky lifter so I use 1 quart of transmission fluid in the oil about once a year before oil change and run it 100 miles. Sticky lifter gone havent had a issue since. Truck runs great have had it about 8 years there's about 170000 miles on it.
@robertmckinley4825
@robertmckinley4825 2 года назад
I have also use Marvel Mystery Oil to free up stickey lifters. It worked very well !!
@MR-Canadian-EH
@MR-Canadian-EH Год назад
certified technician. True believer of ATF on sticky Piston rings. had a 1993 Honda Civic 320,000 KM that smoked so much blue from the exhaust everyone thought the engine was done. Put a liter of ATF in ran the vehicle up to temp and drove it 5km performed a hot oil change, The vehicle never smoked blue and the engine lasted years more.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Год назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@pedrohlt93
@pedrohlt93 5 лет назад
You should buy a small DIESEL engine to test some stuff as fuel (used motor oil, veg oil, brake fluid, atf etc). THAT would be cool!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Great recommendation!
@cbly
@cbly 5 лет назад
diesels love atf and hydraulic fluid
@tylerh629
@tylerh629 5 лет назад
I agree, this would be awesome!
@stevebellen8674
@stevebellen8674 5 лет назад
Like that idea
@carsonp.7009
@carsonp.7009 4 года назад
@@ruben_balea well i think the smell is more of the cooked oil more than the food, considering fries and burgers smell like oil, so the smell is actually the canola or veggie oil
@r3d-1truth17
@r3d-1truth17 5 лет назад
You are a true stand up guy. An honor and pleasure it is to have your channel. We owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you. Keep the magnificent work going!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you very much!
@bayarearaised1894
@bayarearaised1894 2 года назад
Yes i owe you a thanks my friend! So thanks for making such great in-depth informational and entertaining videos
@ahmedalnajar1155
@ahmedalnajar1155 2 года назад
Good news, now you can show your gratitude on patreon
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
@RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 4 года назад
You have really found your calling as these videos are the very best on YT and you have the perfect personality and your command of the English Language is perfect and is so easy to follow and understand and your type of interaction with the camera as though we are standing face to face with you is a very desirable trait. I wish you much luck and prosperity in the future and keep cranking out these outstanding "How To" videos~!!! You've answered loads of questions for me as just one person out of thousands and thousands.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you so much!
@kylekollai4500
@kylekollai4500 4 года назад
Project farm is my go to for anything I’m Curious about
@DrFarquad
@DrFarquad 4 года назад
Hey Project farm, long time viewer. Love seeing all the wild tests you do in your shop. Looks like a lot of fun. Just wanna say keep having fun and doing what you do. Keep up the excellent and knowledgeable videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you very much! I appreciate the positive feedback.
@jordanfacker8686
@jordanfacker8686 6 лет назад
His neighbors must be like "what the he'll is he mowing?!?!?!" As he keeps bringing home pickup loads of mowers, runs them but never cuts the grass. Lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
LOL!
@yourallbrainwashed
@yourallbrainwashed 4 года назад
I was thinking the same thing.. well sorta, I was thinking what they neihbors we're thinking of him making all that noise with the mowers
@RIchardDavidson007
@RIchardDavidson007 4 года назад
His neighbor must think he's a mad scientist. I say that in a good way. Thanks for your videos. You put a lot of heart into them.
@R1D9M8B4
@R1D9M8B4 4 года назад
🤣
@AutoCrete
@AutoCrete 4 года назад
Here I thought he just hates Briggs and Stratton engines???
@certifieddirtyidle1594
@certifieddirtyidle1594 6 лет назад
Thank you for experimenting with ATF. That is exactly what I was looking for! You clearly respect your viewers request's Thanks again!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Erich, Thank you very much! I get a lot of great recommendations, which makes these tests very interesting and fun!
@paulsmith9341
@paulsmith9341 6 лет назад
I've used atf as a aid to clean out the engine. I put a quart in and run it for a day before a oil change. Never knew whether it did anything or not. The engines didn't seem to be negatively affected so i keep going it about every 3rd change.
@pieseasmyseas
@pieseasmyseas 6 лет назад
Erich H I've been asking for a while I'm happy to see it to
@paulsmith9341
@paulsmith9341 6 лет назад
Hmmm, is Marvel Mystery Oil and ATF the same stuff?
@bernardpopp541
@bernardpopp541 6 лет назад
+Paul Smith that's the marvelous mystery of their oil.
@richard8651
@richard8651 3 года назад
Years ago, before synthetics there used to be a old mechanic at Ford who used to periodically substitute one quart of ATF when he changed the oil. It worked great with cleaning the lifters. Engine oil has now come a long way since then and now I would only use the recommended oil.
@Maxim.Teleguz
@Maxim.Teleguz 2 года назад
Did you know recommended oil changes per season?
@monikhushalpuri
@monikhushalpuri 10 месяцев назад
Truth the be told even new engines benefit from the ATF for cleaning...the new guidelines for new cars with 10-20k mile oil change intervals are complete bs as evidenced by engine teardowns especially now that all cars use some sort of oil pressure actuated variable valve timing...even in some recent tests for engines that require 5w20...it may not be good to use it even if the manufacturer recommends it as eventually it will break down to a thinner weight the longer its in the engine before being changed which results in increased wear which is now extremely common on new cars that call for 0w20 5w20 or even 0w16 and 5w16 oils...they do this to squeeze out that 1 extra mpg for the window sticker and epa stuff...in the long run it's better to use some sort of 5w30 or 5w40...basically stay away from 20 weight and 16 weight oils so that you can actually get longevity from your engine
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 8 месяцев назад
I normally don't reply to a 2 year old post but in case somebody else is trying to decide what to do for and to their engine I'll add my 2¢. I worked for a fleet and in automotive for over 40 years so I know a little bit. And if I had a sludged engine I'd use a pint of ATF mixed in with engine oil. Then run the engine a minute or two, and let it soak for an hour or two. Then drain the oil, change the filter and run the engine (as a "rinse" cycle to get all that ATF out!) for an hour. Then drain and refill as normal. If you've tried to desludge the engine using aggressive solvents (like ATF) don't forget, the engine will still be actively desludging itself as you drive it anyway as what's already been done has surely loosened most of the sludge to within an inch of its slimy life. And I think the rest of the sludge will probably drain out with subsequent oil changes. But I figure using my way, at worst you wind up with an engine with a trace amount of sludge left behind that will eventually dissolve and get drained out during subsequent changes. And you put the bare minimum amount of additional wear and tear on the engine to do it.
@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr 6 месяцев назад
@@robertmaybeth3434 dude, I reply to 7 year old comments. You’re fine 😂 so for your rinse cycle tho, you run it for an hour after draining the oil/ATF and changing the filter. But you never said you added anything more?
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 6 месяцев назад
@@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr I figure the simpler the better. Besides which, the less time my engine spends running with non-engine oil inside it the better! So that's why I'd only run it one to two minutes, just to circulate the cleaning chemical mix of choice, then let some soaking do most of the work. The basic issue I have with solvent flushing is you are forcing the engine to run essentially unlubricated. It's not as bad as running an engine dry of oil but its the next worst thing to it! So I say a gradual approach to flushing is the way to go. If the sludge really bothered me I'd at least remove the oil pan and valve covers and clean everything I could get to. But the obvious reason we do a flush is because we don't want to do that. So a gentle flush, to me, is the next best thing, (besides changing your oil often enough to prevent the sludge to begin with).
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 4 года назад
Doing a little binge watching of your channel. Love how thorough you are with your testing. I can see how you have improved your testing over time. My favorites are the comparison of products. Great job!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you!
@davidp2888
@davidp2888 6 лет назад
I appreciate how thorough you are with your testing methods.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you!
@bagelbytes69420
@bagelbytes69420 5 лет назад
And consistent as well. He runs the same tests every time while using different products to provide a good stream of baseline data. I wish more channels existed like Project Farm!
@FutureTechInnovationsLLC
@FutureTechInnovationsLLC 5 лет назад
Agreed! You really take every step and break it down so there aren't any loopholes in the entire experiment
@zwz.zdenek
@zwz.zdenek 4 года назад
@Pennsylvania Mike Exactly. There was this "military" video that compared the AK47 and AR15. It was completely rigged to give advantage to the AR15 to the point where it insulted the viewers.
@yeldarBkereD
@yeldarBkereD 5 лет назад
We've used ATF to clean automotive engines for decades. That being said, I would never use only ATF in an engine. I can guarantee that the shavings were due to the ATF. When we use it to clean automotive engines, we generally use a 20% - 25% mixture. We always use 1 quart and the rest oil. Afterwards, we run the engine for about 100 miles. Since most of that gunk begins clogging up the filter, we change the filter, top the engine off with ATF again, and go another 100 miles. Finally, we'll drain it all, put in a new oil filter, and use good oil. We do this about every 25,000 miles and it has done wonders for the engines we work on. Still, great video! Thanks a ton for your incredibly interesting channel and hard work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@HPaulAdrian
@HPaulAdrian 2 года назад
20 years ago...But what influence does the ATF oil on the DPFs (diesel particulate filter) in today's modern cars? Some say that any other oil than the recommended one for the engine would clough up the particulate filter sooner, as some gets burnet up in the cylinder and leaves the motor with the exhaust gases...
@HPaulAdrian
@HPaulAdrian 2 года назад
Keyword high SAPs
@miatafan
@miatafan 2 года назад
@@HPaulAdrian most motors people are doing this to are 20+ years old
@michaelmelvin6514
@michaelmelvin6514 4 года назад
I added atf for the old motor seal softening. It seemed to help keep main seals from leaking. This was for junkyard motors for the first hundred miles then back to pure oil.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback!
@junkmaster124
@junkmaster124 2 года назад
@@ProjectFarm PF I'd love to see a video on this. Does atf revive old seals and gaskets. Basically paper gasket material, old front/rear main seals, and O-rings of various materials put through an aging process like cooked in oil. I realize this is an old video but I'll bring it up in other videos if I can.
@daveyt4802
@daveyt4802 Год назад
High mileage MO uses "seal conditioners" to help stop leaks. Seems to help IMO.
@erikwilson7622
@erikwilson7622 2 года назад
Wow, back in the '70 I ran a quart of ATF in place of one quart oil at oil change. This was in a F-150, 390. While a Ford from then could never have "clean looking oil" you could see the difference using AFT. It helps a lot in cold weather at start up. Got this from working the Oil Patch.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@splash5974
@splash5974 6 лет назад
Good vid I had a noisy lifter when i bought truck... Did an oil change (10w30) and new filter drove about 2000 kms, no change. I removed about a quart of oil from the pan, added a quart of ATF, and after about 300kms i dont hear the noisy lifter anymore! Im not sure if the ATF is so much a better detergent, but i believe its a thinner viscosity than the 10w30 and it must have gotten intothe small passages and cleaned out some sludge buildup... I did an oil chamge once the lifter noise was gone, and the oil was very dark in colour. Replaced with new oil and filter, and so far no issues! My grandfather told me yrs ago that they used to pour smalls amounts of ATF down the carburetors when they did tune ups. Says it helped clean the carburetor and carbon from the pistons and valves. You should try mixing some ATF into your fuel in the container for the mower and see if it helps remove carbon from the cylinder head.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting on how you've used ATF!
@tehsheik
@tehsheik 5 лет назад
@@ProjectFarm That's the way it's supposed to be used for "cleaning". Also, since it's "thinner" than most 30wt oils...you should change the oil again after using it to free a stuck lifter.
@willarddunn8552
@willarddunn8552 5 лет назад
water injection kits were sold over thirty years go to get rid of carbon build up..
@cbly
@cbly 5 лет назад
ATF is a high detergent 10 weight oil
@-BuddyGuy
@-BuddyGuy 5 лет назад
ATF being so much thinner means it will probably not maintain a lubricating film in key parts of the engine, which is basically like running the engine with no oil at all
@sirsweetness8332
@sirsweetness8332 5 лет назад
Project Farm, you are awesome with your research and engineered tests. I am so glad we mechanical minds have you to test for us. Keep up the good work. You help us save money by keeping our older machines running longer and better.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you very much!
@edmonddrake1409
@edmonddrake1409 2 года назад
I love it when RU-vid suggest some of your older videos that I haven't seen yet. This one was great!
@donaldwigglesworth5885
@donaldwigglesworth5885 3 года назад
I love your work. A sense of curiosity is a terrible thing to let die. Keep it up!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thank you!
@ts46176
@ts46176 6 лет назад
I worked at a Valvoline quick lube in Indianapolis a few years ago. One of the delivery drivers that brought bulk fluids on the tanker trucks had accidentally filled the bulk 5-w30 tank with ATF. Nobody noticed until about 50 cars too late. Surprisingly nobody ever complained or came back with engine damage.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Wow! Thanks for commenting on this!
@mannys9130
@mannys9130 6 лет назад
50 cars of filling and nobody realized ATF was going in? Oh boy...
@quietpat7367
@quietpat7367 6 лет назад
ts46176 I worked at a gmc dealer and a bunch of water got in the oil tank. No one noticed we've been pumping white goo into people's cars untill the end of they day when I accedently pulled the trigger on the hose outing it back up.
@ChaosGarage
@ChaosGarage 6 лет назад
And these stories are why I do my own fluids! No one to blame but myself! :D
@ImTheJoker4u
@ImTheJoker4u 6 лет назад
Had the top guys been following procedure and double checking the level before the hood was closed, they should have caught that pretty quick. Always double check your work!!
@briansouth9325
@briansouth9325 6 лет назад
I've added transmission fluid to oil to free a stuck lifter. Then changed the oil after two weeks. Worked great.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Awesome!
@jackt6112
@jackt6112 4 года назад
The detergent capabilities of ATF are very easily demonstrable and you've seen some evidence of it here, in fact in car engines it has been like wow! I also did it to one of my own vehicles years later after buying it used. The part that made me nervous is so much ending up in the oil so fast. The varnished OHC area instead of having varnish, had clean metal. I didn't run it long that way and made sure the oil was changed when it was good and hot. The guy at the dealership commented that it was very dirty and showed it to me but that was no surprise to me. (I do not do my oil changes myself anymore because for $8.00, recently raised to $15.00, the Honda dealer will change the oil if I bring my own oil and filter, and I don't have to dispose of the oil myself.) On lubricity, we used to put ATF in engines because it doubled the wear allowing more wear in less time for testing purposes. However, we were not involved in establishing that. We simply accepted as fact in Automotive Engineering. However, to their credit, they debunked a lot of theories such as by putting batteries on cement vs. a board for each class, and other things to root out wives tales or situations that occurred a very long time ago when there was different construction and the old tales were still hanging around. Another was detergent vs. non-detergent oil. The myth is detergent oils foam. That used to be the case when they first came out and before most people were born, but it was never the reason for the difference. Cars normally used flat head engines and splash lubrication with little dippers on the connecting rod bolts. In that case, the oil pan was a place for contaminants to settle and solidify. That was your oil filter. Every so often they would drop the easily accessible pan and clean it out. On small engines that aren't expected to have that type of lifespan, it is the same except you cannot drop the pan. With pressurized oil systems, you want to keep it in suspension so you can filter it out. Today, recommendations vary but often non-detergent is recommended and detergent oils OKed because of common availability and more frequent changes. Some recommendations for oil are based on what is normally available. For example, you may have a car with a recommend oil of 5W-20. That same engine today will have 0W-20 because it is now commonly available. You want the first number as low as possible and respect the second number. 0W-20 is not necessarily 5 less than 5W-20. It may be far less than that, which is desirable. Oil is ALWAYS too thick when the engine is cold and is when by far most of the wear occurs. The upper number is its ability to maintain its scuff resistance at normal and high temperatures. The reason on new cars that number can be lower has nothing to do with precision and everything to do with their roller valve train, which adds significant fuel efficiency, which is further enhanced by thinner oil, and reduces wear in many other parts of the engine as well as contributing to longevity. I do get comments at oil changes that it isn't what they recommend, but they have since noted it and don't ask me anymore. Another thing I learned from a friend who has owned tire stores his entire life is to go to the high side on tire pressures, and avoid large wheels which require larger tires. They wear better, ride better, are cheaper, and have much less rolling resistance. The 18" rims rims that came with it are in the top of the garage, and I have 16" rims that look just like them with the same offset and hub size. He was correct. I get great mileage, the tires last forever, and but the increased pressure makes it ride harder. Keep in mind that when you go around a corner, the inside of the tire and outside of the tire have to scrub the pavement, so you want the most pressure on the ground to be the middle because it is the only part that doesn't. Thus, I get better mileage and they wear evenly all the way across. I can tell at the pump every time when I have tires below my desired pressure.
@eliasrudnitsky3884
@eliasrudnitsky3884 4 года назад
Very good info, thank you sir
@edbo10
@edbo10 4 года назад
+1 on filling tyres with higher pressures than normal, this is recommended if you do a lot of high speed driving but even if you don't it's still preferable as it minimises tyre wear. Make sure you check the max pressure limit and account for the fact that air expands when it's hot so pressures will always be higher after a 30 minute drive. From what I heard, the ideal pressure is when the operating temps are 4 PSI higher than the cold temps.
@onikin
@onikin 3 года назад
Depends on the situation. I often drive in wide temperature and altitude extremes. Overinflated tires at one extreme is a complete blowout at another. And I also drive off-road a lot. The major recommendation for that is the exact opposite of yours. Bigger tires and underinflate. Lost many a tire to normal pressures, but none to lower ones. So for me, bigger and under-inflate is the rule. Losing a tire on the road is much more expensive and time consuming than the little bit more gas $ and tire maintenance I must do.
@steelwitness
@steelwitness 2 года назад
I love using ATF when cleaning an engine by hand during a rebuild. Especially when cleaning the cylinder walls it will get them squeaky clean while also leaving a nice oily surface behind. supposedly a tiny amount of atf in the cylinders on the first start after getting new rings can help them break in better
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@londen3547
@londen3547 Год назад
Provided that your cylinders were previously cleaned. There is a reason why transmission re-builders wash their parts in a cleaning booth.
@Kristo99
@Kristo99 6 лет назад
this is better than any bedtime story
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you!
@svenDuke1
@svenDuke1 6 лет назад
without the slipines
@jdavis954
@jdavis954 6 лет назад
It actually is to be honest I wish I could go live at project farm and help graze the cattle
@MattExzy
@MattExzy 6 лет назад
You don't count sheep; you count RPMs.
@mikeanderson1994
@mikeanderson1994 6 лет назад
Project Farm ur amazing keep up the good work keep those vids coming
@tylerschoulte7513
@tylerschoulte7513 6 лет назад
Could you run a second test of ATF on the same engine? The reason I ask is, we couldn't tell if the metal shavings were caused by ATF or cleaned out by ATF from previous oil. However, if a 2nd run came back with more metal shavings, it most likely is causing damage and should be used with caution when cleaning!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you for this recommendation!
@gvanausdle
@gvanausdle 5 лет назад
Tyler S my thoughts exactly.
@lassenielsen5492
@lassenielsen5492 5 лет назад
i would really like that to - i have a 3.4 gm with about 250.000 miles on it, and now valve ticking ( it comes and go ) i would love to try this atf , just to se , but i´m also affraid that it might kill the engine now it has ran that much
@somethingsomeone5440
@somethingsomeone5440 5 лет назад
@@ProjectFarm yes please do this. I'm genuinely curious.
@keithbubb730
@keithbubb730 5 лет назад
Try ristlone
@davidlibby5430
@davidlibby5430 2 года назад
I would enjoy spending time with you in your shop on some Saturday afternoon messing with small engines. You really do a great job!
@toddjacobs5660
@toddjacobs5660 4 года назад
Your tests are the most realistic tests on here & make the most sense, keep up the great work doing them...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you!
@tduffdesign
@tduffdesign 6 лет назад
I love your channel! I've been here since you only had about 10K subs. Just honest, simple and entertaining videos. Don't ever change! I love your stuff! Keep 'em coming good sir! Good day!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you very much!
@DrGiulioski
@DrGiulioski 6 лет назад
Travis Duff I'm with you. I really like this video's. Greetings from Italy and thank you to show also metric values
@davisjames8484
@davisjames8484 6 лет назад
+Project Farm your videos are addicting lol
@Kaelan514
@Kaelan514 6 лет назад
Same, been here since 2k 😁
@u47xxO62
@u47xxO62 5 лет назад
Thank you, actually I have a question but the end of the VDO has answer me already. Good VDO, Salute !
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@hoganfan924
@hoganfan924 2 года назад
My dad used to add 1 qt of ATF and run the car for a few days on it before oil changes. He worked most of his career as an engine development engineer, for Cooper Bessemer, Continental motors, Deere, and Chrysler. Seemed to work well on sludge & varnish.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@cumshot247
@cumshot247 Год назад
Seems like a good idea, but I wouldn't try it in my Honda Odyssey. I keep hearing how sensitive those engines are. The trans too!
@corvairkid17
@corvairkid17 Год назад
​@@cumshot247Hondas, Toyotas, and kia/Hyundai need solvents to prevent stuck rings and oil consumption. I would say your Honda needs it more than the average car. Frequent redlining too.
@6lackRain
@6lackRain 8 месяцев назад
@@corvairkid17what kind of solvents
@emailjimsylvester
@emailjimsylvester Месяц назад
​@@corvairkid17I've had a few Hondas with high mileage and none used any significant amount of oil. I only ever used the recommended oil. I can't speak to their engines in the 1970's, but Honda engines made since don't need any special "solvents."
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 2 года назад
Wouldn't take a full crankcase of ATF, but I have used it in a .5 to 1 quart to clean up a motor as you have. And it works great for light cleaning and freezing up striction. You don't need much to get results with all the detergents in the oils to today. Enjoy.
@Fishhunter007
@Fishhunter007 10 месяцев назад
I knew an auto mechanic that would drain dirty oil fill it with ATF and let the car idle for about 30 minutes with no driving. Then flush the engine and put in regular motor oil. It’s amazing how dirty the ATF oil came out after running through the engine for 30 minutes. He mainly did it for freeing up, stuck lifters in the head.
@erkanalpman4166
@erkanalpman4166 5 лет назад
Just crossed this experience while looking for another thing. Great initiative @Project Farm. Maybe the lawnmower isn't the most representative engine for this particular experience. Too few parts, too few exposure to "burn". I heard of the ATF cleaning about 10 years ago while I was trying to figure out how to rejuvenate an old Wrangler TJ with about 200'000km on original engine. I was hugely skeptical. What the heck, replaced 2lt of engine oil by Dextron II. Then forgot about it during an entire summer driving around. When I replaced the oil, it was like black paint. Filter was coated too. Replaced everything and engine was running like a charm. Few month later I had the valve covers removed to replace gaskets. Mechanic commented that the internals were spotless. Asked me if the engine had been reworked or replaced recently. After this, I did same treatment to 2 other Wranglers. And now I do this with my MB CLK 320 (W209). Very different engine, I agree. I replace 1lt (out of 8lt) and drive gently only about 50km with ATF. First time I did this on the CLK, I replaced the filter before adding ATF. I was curious. The filter came out clogged by some sort of black tar. Replaced oil two times to flush everything. Bottomline, ATF does cleanup something. That something is that black soot (or whatever) produced by engine operating. What does it do really? No idea. But my CLK is now well over 200'000km, running like a charm, no clicking or valve noises and passing CO2 inspections without any work done. And I can still easily give Subaru BRZ drivers a run for their ego lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Great point and thanks for sharing your experience with ATF!
@stevehei8035
@stevehei8035 6 лет назад
Back in the 80's we used a quart of diesel fuel and had it come to temp and run for 15 minutes, then drain and change with clean oil and filter in our cars. Maybe you can do a video on using diesel fuel on a lawn mower.
@CorruptInfinityOfficial
@CorruptInfinityOfficial 4 года назад
Steve Hei sounds great in practice but the fuel attacks certain kinds of rubber seals because there are like half a dozen compounds for car seals. Would be great to see if that hurts them from the brief exposure
@philojudaeusofalexandria9556
@philojudaeusofalexandria9556 4 года назад
@@CorruptInfinityOfficial That's the problem with all additives. It's fun to see the Project Farm guy do all these tests, but looking at how well the deposits are cleaned is only half the picture. You need to test/check all the seals. This is why automakers never recommend ANY additives to oil any more. More risk of damage than the benefit of cleaning deposits. If you had a 30yo beater truck lying around, yeah: go ahead and try whatever gets it running better. But i would never put any of this stuff in a modern engine on a car that is worth anything unless it was in horrible condition and sounded/ran like it needed a new engine.
@CorruptInfinityOfficial
@CorruptInfinityOfficial 4 года назад
Javier Hernandez love the response man, appreciate how you explained the process of how it works and why it’s not a good idea to do it to modern engines too which is similar to something I was thinking but was a valid concern. All the new electronic systems and solenoids really do overly complicate some things, I’ll keep that in mind even though I likely won’t have diesel nearby for a few years hahaha. And I see some turbo 4 cylinders commonly running shell rotella diesel oil for their cars, and they are pretty clean besides the direct injected ones valves haha.
4 года назад
@stardroppercj the seals are fine but I had a customer of mine use an off the shelf engine flush I forgot the name since he thought he needed it because he had I think was 116k and had vct issues right affer, was way back in 09 but since he had an inline 4 i took the cam off easily and cleaned the solenoid.
@piciu256
@piciu256 3 года назад
Diesel fuel in oil won't damage anything short term, running on straight diesel would damage the engine (not good enough film strength etc.) It doesn't clean anything really, but it does thin out the oil a bit and allow it to drain smudge a bit better. I did flush my sludged up engine with 2 loads of straight diesel after an engine flush, and the oil did stay clean for a bit longer, but only disassembly and manual cleaning of the cylinder head and oil pan really made a difference- 4000km now and the oil is still clean (had to change the piston rings as well, it burned a lot of oil)
@robertclymer6948
@robertclymer6948 4 года назад
I have heard of this being done, but never tryed it myself. I have added kerosene to the crankcase and run it for one minute and completely drained. Removed all kinds of sludge and crud. This was an old Navy trick my Dad used during WW2 and Korea as an aviation mechanic. Never harmed any engines and Dad said they would be exceptionally clean. FYI
@sammascreel
@sammascreel 2 года назад
I would love to see project farm test this
@johnnywalker640
@johnnywalker640 2 года назад
Used to work in a gas station man named Charlie bring in old Ford pick up changed his oil this way every time. Owner made him sign a waiver that we weren't responsible for what happened.
@terrywaters6186
@terrywaters6186 4 года назад
I would love to see a lubricity test between 10w-30 and 0W-20 oil of the same brand. Also test between Dexos certified verses non Dexos oil of the same brand. Also testing an oils anti foaming properties in a blender would be interesting.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the video idea!
@KowboyUSA
@KowboyUSA 6 лет назад
I've used ATF free lifters/sticky valves. Now to watch and discover whether I'm idiot or a genius for doing so.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting!
@Gippetos
@Gippetos 6 лет назад
Have used ATF for sticky/noisy lifters in the past, learned it from the old man...it works.
@apachelives
@apachelives 6 лет назад
Can confirm it works for my old Subaru
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 6 лет назад
You are NOT in the idiot category, John!
@ImTheJoker4u
@ImTheJoker4u 6 лет назад
I used to sell so many engine cleaning treatments at a shop i worked at, I would run out, and resort to using ATF to help clean engines. Worked pretty good too!!
@apegues
@apegues 6 лет назад
Marvel Mystery Oil has been my “Go To” oil additive (1qt mmo To 4qt of oil) to free lifters and clean sludge and I change it from 500 mi to 2000 mi depending on the amount of sludge build up. I’ve been using this in my repair shop (Performance Motorsports) since 1974 and it works good.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
MMO is a great product!
@turblown
@turblown 3 года назад
Wow your testing has gotten way more streamlined in the last 2 years! Good job. My friend works on exotics and he told me if you have a sludged engine your replace ONE quart of oil with transmission fluid during the oil change and run it the whole 3000 miles most of the sludge should be gone but if you have to run another cycle so be it. The engine will remain unaffected.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@1005dragrcr
@1005dragrcr 2 года назад
I also know of a guy that put a quart of atf in a car he bought to "flush" the oil. He blew the motor cause it was so sludgy it clogged his oil pick up screen, starved the engine for oil and caaabboom! Threw a rod.
@graypony
@graypony 2 года назад
Back in the olden days we would use ATF in the oil and in the fuel tanks of the old two stroke Detroit Diesel engines 238,318 and then the silver series. It helped keep injectors-freed up and keep the inside of the block a little cleaner. The old detroits were noted for converting diesel fuel into smoke and noise. Love your channel and am a subscriber. Question for you, when doing these engine tests on the mower engines do you use a fresh head gasket each time ? Would also like to know your opinion on the harbor freight 3400 jump pack. I have actually witnessed one start a commercial Cummins diesel in a road tractor and the batteries were flat! Have a great day !
@popefelix
@popefelix 5 лет назад
Not related to the video, but I unabashedly love your "let's find out" videos. Even with the most bizarre suggestions - like lubricating an engine with Head and Shoulders shampoo - you present them in an entertaining and informative manner. Bravo.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you very much!
@nimasaur
@nimasaur 5 лет назад
I worked in a small Automotive repair shop. One customer had a Chevy S-10 with a ticking lifter. We substituted one quart Dextron ATF for oil and after few days customer came back the tick was gone. We continued this on that vehicle for several years as I remember.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Impressive!
@timheasman2984
@timheasman2984 5 лет назад
Oh my god !!! A clear panel so we can see ! I’m hooked on this channel!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank You
@whocares4464
@whocares4464 2 года назад
He's the man!!!
@garyheaton4791
@garyheaton4791 4 года назад
I LOVE how you started that mower with an impact gun!! Genuine genius pal...I have no clue why I have never seen it done before..it just makes so much damn sense! 👍 I just wish I had thought of it..about 45 years ago!! Thanks! Great video..as always! 😁✌
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching.
@HippieGeeks
@HippieGeeks 5 лет назад
Great video! I have a 1986 Nissan 300zx with 200k miles. Every morning on cold starts, the lifters tick for a few seconds until things get going. Sometimes, hard highway pulls make them tick, too. After putting in a quart of dex/merc iv, and driving it lightly for 100 miles, I noticed no more noisy lifters under any condition! Cold starts seem smoother and the engine sounds very healthy now. Only 100 ish miles on that oil and I changed it. The oil filter seemed heavier than any other change I've done at 3-5000 mile intervals. I'm going to cut it open and invesitgate
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Impressive!
@Lonnielove803
@Lonnielove803 2 года назад
You and I both do the same thing leave one quart of ATF and until the next oil change smart.
@Lonnielove803
@Lonnielove803 2 года назад
Back in the day transmission fluid was once called transmission oil they changed the name so people wouldn't 👍 make mistakes putting motor oil in transmissions.
@DailyTechPrince
@DailyTechPrince 6 лет назад
Watching before sleep. Always love ur videos
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you! Hope you sleep well!
@hunterwagar2965
@hunterwagar2965 3 года назад
Love how you always grin knowing you're doing something cool for everyone thats actually useful
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
I appreciate that!
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 года назад
This has become my favorite channel...right up there with Cleetus anyway lol. You don't needlessly waste our time with a bunch of crap that we don't need to see, you get right to the point. Very rare thing these days. Last year I dumped a couple quarts of ATF in an old Ford 460 motorhome chassis to quiet down a tapping lifter that would not get its act together. That did the trick, but still had to leave it in there for a couple of weeks. in hindsight, I probably should have just dumped some diesel in it and idled it for a while
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you!
@Copperhead41993
@Copperhead41993 5 лет назад
Another video idea, i know you use new spark plugs all the time, i was wondering if you could do a fuel consumption test of a standard plug, platinum, iridium, E3, and a Pulstar Pulse plug
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Yes, I'll do it. Great video idea
@longwindingroad
@longwindingroad 2 года назад
@@ProjectFarm over several years time in 3 different vehicles I tried those bosch quad spark plugs ( four prongs ) . I don't know much about engines but it didn't make any difference. A mechanic told me they are a waste of money.
@kerrymartin5514
@kerrymartin5514 2 года назад
There is a couple other videos from someone else that did those tests and they got a tiny bit better gas mileage and better performance with the iranium
@yaaaboy3491
@yaaaboy3491 5 лет назад
Multi purpose lawn mower for sale. Will literally run on piss if you put your mind too it! You are a mad man hahah I can’t stop watching
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
lol
@Subfightr
@Subfightr 5 лет назад
Yeah dude same here. I'm always like, "ok last vid".. then the suggestion box pops up and I'm all "hmm interesting" *click* rinse and repeat. Great work man, you've got a lot of patience and a great mind in that skull of yours.
@jhuntosgarage
@jhuntosgarage 5 лет назад
Lol! Very smart!
@BretBunton
@BretBunton 5 лет назад
Let's see if a motor can run on piss!
@smlqtyprt
@smlqtyprt 5 лет назад
@@BretBunton Maybe after really good drunk!!
@guyski666
@guyski666 4 года назад
The gunk inside some old motors is what keeps them running. Had a friend with a GM 350 ci motor who got talked into having it "cleaned out" and it blew smoke out the exhaust afterwards due to piston rings not sealing anymore. I have found that frequent (every 5000km or 3000 miles) oil changes was all I had to do to keep my cars running trouble free. Cheers
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback
@1Ocqueoc
@1Ocqueoc 3 года назад
Used to change fuel filters on the Kenworth - hot engine, fill new filters with ATF, install, start engine and rev up to about 1900 RPM ... the amount of soot coming out of the stacks was amazing!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@supersevenn
@supersevenn 6 лет назад
would have been interesting to run the used oil you first drained through the paper filter to see if there were metal flakes there too
@Austinsairplanes
@Austinsairplanes 5 лет назад
you should try testing the use of used atf as fuel in an older diesel engine. I've been running used atf as fuel in my 1993 ford f250 7.3 idi.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you
@barnabyjones6995
@barnabyjones6995 4 года назад
Poor man's Marvel Mystery Oil.
@DerekAndersonRacing
@DerekAndersonRacing 4 года назад
Idi's will run on just about anything, they really don't care what you put in them as long as it burns
@AntzOutside
@AntzOutside 4 года назад
I bet that smells lovely
@robertkey9991
@robertkey9991 4 года назад
I didn't find the experiment where you said canola oil was used in the crankcase. I only found the one using soybean oil. Can you please direct me to it?
@11523007
@11523007 3 года назад
I love these videos but I'm curious if any of these treatments hurt the gaskets in an engine. A good test might be to get a few valve cover gaskets, cut out the spark plug seals and let them soak in seafoam, ATF, oil, MMO, etc. for a few months, and see how it impacts their thickness, elasticity, and strength by hanging weight off of them. You could also cook some of them to see if that has an effect.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thanks for the video idea.
@johnhanselman6371
@johnhanselman6371 2 года назад
@ Captain Awesome: I would also like to see the results of that test. I would also like AT-205 to participate in that test.
@tagminda4565
@tagminda4565 2 года назад
Hmm. I like that. Then PF will do all the work, expenses etc and we just watch. Thanks again Project Farm.
@fortj3
@fortj3 6 лет назад
I'm thinking about adding some ATF to the oil in my old motorcycle engine, to help clean the engine.
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe 4 года назад
when I was trucking ove the road once I accidently put a gallon of hydraulic oil in a 425 mechanical cat diesel engine when the mechanics switched the barrels on the racks position after 3 yrs working there, the truck went thru a gallon of oil every month, after I put in the oil the old maintenance mechanic asked me why I put hyraulic fluid instead of deisel, i was confused n went back to look at the varrel, and said i guess the same reasons you didnt out the barels back on the rack where they usually go, and got the hyraulic fluid by mistake since they switched spoys I had a rountine n knew where the oil always was for several years, i took it in for a oil change later that day, and damned if that truck ran smooth and had more power than ever before, and purred smmot as a cat should, they never had any engine problemsout of that engine, but did on another truck that was identical that never got the accidental gallon of hydraulic fuild to the engibe motor oil, maybe some diesel mechanic can chime in and tell me why that cat engineran so smooth n beter from then on?
@johntaper
@johntaper 2 года назад
The atf works well for cleaning oil paths, cam phasers, solenoids, and the like on modern engines. Used commonly to remedy variable valve timing issues.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@andygrew4832
@andygrew4832 4 года назад
I always enjoy your videos and appreciate your scientific approach. Thank you.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you
@Colin1342
@Colin1342 4 года назад
I bought a new mower a few years ago fitted with a Briggs & Stratton engine. At the first recommended oil change at ten hours I found what I suspect by the colour and viscosity was ATF. This would have been added at the mower shop prior to delivery. It wasn’t dirty as you’d expect from a new engine and doesn’t appear to have caused any damage. I’ve been using 10W30 at yearly intervals ever since and it’s still going great. I really enjoy watching your videos. Thanks.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you enjoy the videos!
@barrykilts4506
@barrykilts4506 2 года назад
I would have liked to see you do a side by side with Marvel Mystery Oil to see if they do the same or no but as always great job.I’m watching the Lucas clear syn. Versus xmas next,can’t wait for results since I’ve always added the Lucas to oil at oil change along with two filters between changes
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion.
@johanh2319
@johanh2319 6 лет назад
Im excited for this! Thank you man.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you!
@arthursmith643
@arthursmith643 2 года назад
Awesome video. Came across it and had to watch again. Always great stuff. Your one of the best keep up the great work. We out here really appreciate you
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks so much!
@eliasrudnitsky3884
@eliasrudnitsky3884 4 года назад
First off, Great videos, my personal preferred way of cleaning an engine has always been to pour a quart of atf in the crankcase while I use an iv drip to feed it either seafoam or techron injector/intake manifold cleaner, usually a quart of the stuff takes 30 minutes or so with the rpms held at 2k, I've done this probably 30 times now with 100%, success and clearly a much better running engine after.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@AuMechanic
@AuMechanic 6 лет назад
Any engine flush should only be run at idle up to temperature and drained, not driven using it. I use 2 oil filters doing a flush, one before I run the flush after draining the oil so we don't wash anything out of the old filter and recirculate it and another one after the flush with new oil to get rid if any traces of it removed before new oil is used.. It certainly works to removing gumming, particularly in multi valve heads where oil is part lube part coolant due to lack of water jacket space, the gumming afflicts overhead hydraulic cam followers making them noisy that an engine flush can fix. Likewise anywhere gumming can cause issues for example oil control ring expanders that gum up and cause the engine to start blowing smoke that isn't worn rings it's just that they are jammed in the gummed oil ring expander. AFT would be fine at a pinch of you had nothing else but I would not drive around with it in the engine. Its fine in a transmission including manual and transaxle and many vehicles use exactly that in them. But they don't have the heat or the plain bearings an engine has. In fact of Formula Vee racing we used ATF in the transaxle instead of gbox oil to reduce power losses in the gbox and less foaming since the engine is revving a lot higher than stock so it was fine in old transaxles under racing conditions.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting on this.
@bernardpopp541
@bernardpopp541 6 лет назад
Rocket Science ...oy
@zfloz9895
@zfloz9895 6 лет назад
AuMechanic I have used 4 liter of engine oil 10w60 and 4 liter of diesel fuel in my mercedes 320 V6 petrol, and drove it for a week every day. The only result was a beautiful clean engine inside, and that run so smooth. I have to say that I change the oil filter twice that week to remove the sludge that was stuck on it. During this week,my engine running temp was good, and my engine was not noisy at all.
@AuMechanic
@AuMechanic 6 лет назад
Diesel engine oil is high detergent and good for engine flush for older engines, and being an engine oil is suitable.. Air cooled VW engines are best run on it full time to stop tarnishing.
@zeldonzz3961
@zeldonzz3961 6 лет назад
AuMechanic i have oil dissapear issue in toyota crolla 2004 can i use 50% ATF and 50% existing oil in engine for flush will it help ?
@hibridradio
@hibridradio 6 лет назад
Diesel in crankcase.....
@gabrielvieira6529
@gabrielvieira6529 6 лет назад
Uwe Sanz yeeas
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you for this recommendation!
@GRPABT1
@GRPABT1 6 лет назад
I came here to suggest this. Supposed to be a good cleaner. Not sure about 1 hour of run time though 😂
@pierce9260
@pierce9260 6 лет назад
Yes!
@davidwilson623
@davidwilson623 6 лет назад
I have done this but only at a 3 to 1 mix and in an extremely dirty engine that had not had an oil change done in years but it did a great job and fixed my oil pressure issue
@stevensawyer2489
@stevensawyer2489 2 года назад
I'm impressed by your methods of testing, being thoroughly tested.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks!
@alandul7842
@alandul7842 2 года назад
In the 1980s, I used ATF in a small motorcycle engine, from advise in a motorcycle magazine article. Two things happened: 1) on a summer's day, the crankcase emptied itself all over the back tire. Never understood why. 2) that winter, the engine seized. Piston con rod needle bearing disintegrated, with bearing parts in the cylinder wall, piston, head, everywhere! Lesson learned. Stick with motor oil!!!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing.
@zavatone
@zavatone Год назад
from advice*. Advise is the verv. Advice is the noun.
@noexp7710
@noexp7710 Год назад
@@zavatone Do you think any of us care? I sure as hell don’t.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 6 лет назад
Cool video! Have you tried diluting the engine oil with diesel fuel yet? I can't remember. But that's another "old school" trick for cleaning out sludge buildup.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
I'll test this soon. Thank you for this recommendation!
@2009dudeman
@2009dudeman 6 лет назад
ATF in engine oil is fine in moderation. Using straight ATF in an automotive engine will result in premature engine failure as it does not contain several additives that modern DexOS or MST rated oils have. It may only take 20k miles off the engines life, or it may reduce the engine life to 20k miles. The more important distinction is the way it deals with combustion byproducts, ATF has nothing to deal with the acidic byproducts from combustion which means that in a short period the oil will begin to etch the metal (even in aluminium blocks) and eat away at gaskets, whereas engine oil has additives to neutralize the acids in combustion bypass. However, in a 5qt engine, 4-4.5qts of engine oil and .5-1qt ATF has beneficial effects due to the far more concentrated detergents due to its intended lifespan and requirement to keep valve bodies clean and free from buildup. Several of my old instructors have used a 10-20% ATF mix in their engines for decades, and I have used a 20% mix in my engines for half a decade without any negative effects. I replaced the valve covers a few years ago and the rocker assemblies looked pristine, granted I have no clue what they looked like when I bought the truck.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
This is great information! Thank you!
@ebutuoyebutouy
@ebutuoyebutouy 6 лет назад
2009dudeman U think a 2 hour run would create excess wear? Agree w u that long term is no good. Also, the atf that gets past the Piston rings is not "ashless" when it combusts. Going to leave residue in the sparkplugs.
@2009dudeman
@2009dudeman 6 лет назад
Ernest, I cant tell the intent of your first question but engine oil is not ashless either, every oil you can put in an engine is going to leave carbon when it combusts. A 2 hour run in a modern engine with straight ATF might brick the engine. Especially if it has turbos or cam driven injection pumps, it was not made to be run in an engine, its not an engine oil. ATF is a hydraulic oil, its primary purpose is to be used for applying pressure to things, be they pistons or hydraulic motors. Secondary considerations are lubrication, sealing, cooling, cleaning. Engine oil has a primary function of lubrication and secondary considerations of cooling, sealing, cleaning and a minor function of applying pressure.
@ebutuoyebutouy
@ebutuoyebutouy 6 лет назад
2009dudeman Yup. I was agreeing w u. However from other users comments was under opinion that for short durations ok. Thanks for advising that this is not so. I would rather do a short higher atf concentrate than a longer more dilute. What is the max atf/ motor oil ratio u would advise? 4/2? Then, for how long till it has done it's magic? 1/2 hr? Whithin the next week will do this to my 87 MBenz 300D turbo OM 603. Has 3 lifters that are noisy. Replacing lifters on this motor is a PITA. Thanks for sharing.
@brianhuffman3202
@brianhuffman3202 6 лет назад
I have run 1 qt. out of 5 in several older cars and had no ill effect. I agree the newer engines with turbos and such might be a whole new ball game. Like another poster, I'm not sure the atf did what I hoped, but sure didn't seem to hurt. Lastly I would never go above your 20% recommendation, and might be wise to keep it even to 10%. Thanks
@tonygingrich8226
@tonygingrich8226 5 лет назад
I personally have no experience with using ATF as a substitute for motor oil. However, I have friends who are into ATV and dirt bike racing. They regularly use ATF in their 2-cycle crankcases, swearing that it reduces drag. I thought it was interesting to see your lubricity test suggest otherwise. I will definitely be recommending this video for them to watch!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@ssssssssss10
@ssssssssss10 2 года назад
Hey Project Farm. I was wondering about you making a video on different engine oil weights and types. There is rare specification data on the web for the cold start weight 0w 5w 10w 15w etc. It would be an interesting video seeing your various testing methods on a wide range of engine oils. I appreciate your attention to detail in testing methods and allowing the product you are testing to be the only variable. The science you show is incredible. Thank you for the content you create.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
@aprules2
@aprules2 5 лет назад
I'd like to see a comparison between ATF and Marvel Mystery Oil.... I always had better luck freeing lifters with Marvel.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thanks for the recommendation!
@craigkeller
@craigkeller 5 лет назад
Anthony Perna I think MMMoil and AT are almost same thing.
@arthurcutter8168
@arthurcutter8168 5 лет назад
@@craigkeller kinda makes me wonder what ATF mixed into gas in a similar ratio to MMM would do to an engine.
@101Volts
@101Volts 5 лет назад
@@craigkeller They're not. MMO's flash point is 160 F, ATF has a flash point at least of 200 F (sometimes over 300.) MMO would seem to evaporate in the crankcase although I haven't ever tried using it for anything.
@videodistro
@videodistro 5 лет назад
Or kerosene.
@circularpizzabox2134
@circularpizzabox2134 3 года назад
I LOL’d. “This is the motor I ran with canola oil..” Your channel is the best!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Thank you!
@josephastier7421
@josephastier7421 3 года назад
A buddy ran vegetable oil in his VW van and he said it made a curtain of white smoke two lanes wide behind him.
@climbercraig66
@climbercraig66 4 года назад
Hi Project Farm! Thanks for all the great videos; I really enjoy the topics and your approaches to create the test procedures and equipment! I had an idea for a new project video: Could you test ATF at different temperatures to examine their performance after being subjected to set periods of time at normal to extreme temperatures? I know I have seen quite a few charts from the transmission industry, that state the useful life of ATF, depending on the temperatures that the fluid is exposed to. For example, these charts will say if you can keep ATF temps below 175F, the fluid should be good for 100K miles. However, a temp of 220F (for how long?) will make your fluid only good for 50K miles or less. I know my Toyota Tacoma has a factory spec range of 122F to 176F, although I see temps higher than this (200F) during mountain road climbs (in my case, temp measured at torque converter outlet to cooling circuit (worst case/highest instantaneous readings)). I think at 300F, the "AT Oil Temp" light comes on, but I have never seen that! Anyhow, I take good care of my transmission (300K miles and 17 years on original unit), but I think a lot of your viewers would be interested in seeing an ATF video. Initial lubricity baseline, cold flow test, followed by exposure to several high temperature ranges, followed by lubricity checks against the baseline. Thanks again so much for the great content. Keep up the good work and I look forward to many more videos from the Project Farm!
@climbercraig66
@climbercraig66 4 года назад
I guess another thought here, is maybe the fluid is fine at 300+F, but the seals, clutches etc. of the transmission are damaged just by the temperature, and not so much by way of fluid degradation.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Great video idea! Thank you
@oldschooldude8370
@oldschooldude8370 5 лет назад
Small 4 strokes are so fun. Your approach makes it even better. Good stuff my friend. All I can figure from the cylinder with the trans fluid is that its blowing by the intake valve seal since its less viscosity and cleaning the piston at the compression stroke. the plug showed it was burning more than fuel. Thats how it looks to me. Almost like it has a coolant leak but its air cooled :D Alot more crust around both valves with the trans fluid, especially the exhaust. May have crept past the oil ring as well. Trans fluid is water compared to even 5w20
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@markbauer3442
@markbauer3442 6 лет назад
Works great i did that in my 3/4 Dodge P.U. with the 8.0L v 10, no problems at all.....
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thanks for commenting.
@ChevyCitation
@ChevyCitation 6 лет назад
That "Clear View" window was awesome learned a lot from this video. You should try Transmission Fluid in the Gas mix.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you for this recommendation!
@MegaDirtyberty
@MegaDirtyberty 6 лет назад
Runs nicely in a idi diesel, little bit down on power so you mix a little acetone and petrol with it, brings the power back up.
@ericmurrell723
@ericmurrell723 6 лет назад
MegaDirtyberty that sounds like a good way to blow the heads off a diesel engine lol
@MegaDirtyberty
@MegaDirtyberty 6 лет назад
Not at all, using it most successfully. Have used 100% atf (without acetone/petrol mix) one day because I run out of diesel, power was down but it run.
@TheCroatianOcelot
@TheCroatianOcelot 6 лет назад
bds1234 oh, like gas and 2T mixture, but instead of 2T oil, its atf? Ive done it on my old moped which was barely running, it wasn't starting so easy bcs I added a bit too much, but there was more oil in the cylinder than everywhere, that thing couldn't really burn
@P00P_
@P00P_ 2 года назад
Currently at school learning about heavy equipment and machinery. Mostly 18 wheelers but some cars and trucks but mostly diesel. My instructor always recommends atf to clean out a crank case and to stop noisy lifters. He’s been doing this fro years and he said he’s never had a problem and it’s always worked great so I’m actually going to give it a shot
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback.
@timmypstyle
@timmypstyle 4 года назад
Was just going to suggest this on another video but decided you had probably already done it before and it showed up 3 videos down on my homepage. lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Nice! Thank you
@dannywojkiewicz503
@dannywojkiewicz503 4 года назад
I put a quart of automatic transmission fluid in my engine before I change my oil write up for a couple days a week and then change my oil haven't had a problem been doing this for years
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you
@zwosiebener
@zwosiebener 4 года назад
I take every 2nd oil change 1 liter diesel for that.
@tousshong9438
@tousshong9438 4 года назад
Didn't you have to drain a quart out before adding a quart of the ATF or at least check the oil level before adding additional fluids. I assume you've check the oil level first.
@dannywojkiewicz503
@dannywojkiewicz503 4 года назад
Yes it's a little low by that time anyway but good. Thought thanks for asking
@Mr6Sinner
@Mr6Sinner 6 лет назад
Try Vaseline instead of oil! Might have to melt it to make it work lol
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you for this recommendation!
@ericgonnering3285
@ericgonnering3285 6 лет назад
Uriah Siner agreed I had mentioned that awhile ago. Would really like to see it not melted
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 6 лет назад
Project Farm Yea maybe run it until it’s really warm, dump the conventional oil and pour in the heated vaseline and go.
@Michaeltje89
@Michaeltje89 6 лет назад
Yeah, like to see that also :D
@spadeykins9114
@spadeykins9114 6 лет назад
SFW replacement would include 'cable lube' commonly used in commercial cable applications. It's the same stuff 100% just packaged differently.
@garyr.8116
@garyr.8116 2 года назад
Would love to see a test with your lubricity tester between new transmission fluid, and OLD transmission fluid from a transmission with 100k miles on the fluid (some people think you should never change your transmission fluid). I bet that old transmission fluid is like leaving sandpaper in your trans!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks for the video idea.
@davidweum9334
@davidweum9334 5 лет назад
I appreciate your comprehensive work. However, until recently I've only changed oil every spring. My lawnmowers run for 25 years. I have 3. The fourth I had to just because the shaft was bent (I shoulda tried bending it back to straighten). I'm content to change oil frequently. I never used cleansers in my engines.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you
@SuperFishbreeder
@SuperFishbreeder 5 лет назад
Atf is same as motor flush Old trick was to use type f transmission fluid to free up stuck dirty parts
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thanks for commenting on this.
@daveybernard1056
@daveybernard1056 5 лет назад
Type F auto trans fluid is GREAT for cleaning dirty guns. And way more affordable than the purpose made solvent.
@thedude4632
@thedude4632 4 года назад
I put in my 2 CT’s about this atf response , but had forgotten that type f was the thing to use. Don’t know if there still is a type f .
@dalemllns
@dalemllns 4 года назад
When using ATF I've always used one qt with the rest oil. The atf finds it's way into the lifter and the detergents help clean the engine. Never done it in a new engine but have several old ones with success at making a lifter quiet down.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback
@atomicdmt8763
@atomicdmt8763 2 года назад
thanks! do you typically run the 1 qt for the entire oil cycle duration?
@joesanchez4895
@joesanchez4895 2 года назад
I used to disassemble and rebuild 5.9 Diesel engines. No better hand cleaner for removing grime from your hands than atf lol. The detergents are very aggressive in it , designed to clean. One of the highway tractors that we haul cattle with had a diesel injector sticking . We added 4 Liters to 100 gallons of diesel fuel. I could see the smoke from over fueling out of the stack. At 150kms it stopped smoking and the engine ran normal. Thanks for actually showing me how it does actually clean inside a engine! Keep up the great content and work! Love your videos!!!!!!!!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 года назад
Thanks, will do!
@bkyardmechanic5010
@bkyardmechanic5010 4 года назад
The very 1st video I watched was sea foam in yr put. Been a fan since. As always interesting and detailed video. Well done ty
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback
@billyboots3730
@billyboots3730 6 лет назад
What if you were to use chainsaw bar oil instead of engine oil?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Thank you for this recommendation!
@billyboots3730
@billyboots3730 6 лет назад
LOL! my friends uncle had a leaky power steering pump, came home from a grocerie run one day (nearest store over 100kms), ran out of power steering fluid half way home, so filled her up with vegetable oil he bought at the store! haha
@Th3Acc0mplice
@Th3Acc0mplice 6 лет назад
Now that would be a sludgy mess haha
@mikewest712
@mikewest712 6 лет назад
Great recommendation, i recommend the tractor supply brand.
@marcgardiner6278
@marcgardiner6278 6 лет назад
In South Africa in the '60's to '80's it was well known that dodgy 2nd hand car dealers would put banana peels in a grating/grinding gearbox to make a sale. Worked long enough to screw some poor sucker over, and created one helluva mess!
@shanedes4646
@shanedes4646 4 года назад
ATF is really only used in engines with high mileage to get rid of the sludge free up the lifters but I would absolutely recommend it before anything else
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 года назад
Thank you for the feedback
@jaceb7136
@jaceb7136 2 года назад
Could I run straight atf in my mower instead of oil? I am very low on funds and motor oil in insanely high priced where im at but I also don't wanna cook the motor
@josephhodges718
@josephhodges718 2 года назад
@@jaceb7136 No, ATF is designed to not have combustion contamination introduced to it. It will break down faster than motor oil because of that.
@junkmaster124
@junkmaster124 2 года назад
@@jaceb7136 In PF film strength test you can see that the 10w30 prevents wear under pressure much more than 100% ATF. This makes me think the high load parts of the engine would get significantly more wear with ATF than with 10w30. Specifically the rod caps, wrist pin bearings, and cam lobes. You can also see a fair bit of scoring increase on the 2nd comparison of the cylinder walls after running 1 hr with pure ATF. Also I can't confirm Joseph Hodges info about ATF breaking down when exposed to combustion gasses it certainly wasn't designed with that in mind. It might be lacking the correct detergents even though it has more of them and could be made of oils that are less stable at temperatures reached on the back of the piston.
@diverbob8
@diverbob8 4 года назад
One thing that ATF is good for is quieting the squeaks in the rubber bushings at the end of leaf springs. A few squirts from an Eagle pumping oil can a few times a year works pretty well.
@MichaelStoneqm3
@MichaelStoneqm3 3 года назад
Your channel is one of the coolest on youtube 👍🏻. Thanks for all of your work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Wow, thanks!
@chucknoob7041
@chucknoob7041 5 лет назад
When I was 14 my friend and I had a Dodge Dart that we thrashed through the desert which caused a trans cooler leak. I talked him into using used motor oil to fill the trans cause, “oil is oil, right?” The car puked the oil back up the fill line and caught the engine on fire, 😛
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Wow!
@claymccormick1203
@claymccormick1203 6 лет назад
i had a friend that ran a wrecker service he did not use pennzoil it is pariffen based and makes waxes when it breaks down and he would add 1 quart of transmission fluid when he would see collar in his oil then run 500 miles generally in 1 day and change his oil i helped rebuild his motor when needed he got 1,000,000 mile out of a small block 350 ruteenly and the engine looked almost as clean as new when we rebuilt them.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Impressive! Thanks for commenting.
@wesleypollard3058
@wesleypollard3058 6 лет назад
1,000,000 or 100,000??
@iamthenra1968
@iamthenra1968 11 месяцев назад
Hi Todd, thank you for all your work... I just bought a hydraulic pump for a log splitter and the pump manufacturer says to use a good quality ATF for all season use... Have you ever heard of using ATF instead of hydraulic fluid? Makes me wonder if it is a typo??
@barryshapiro8894
@barryshapiro8894 5 лет назад
I know this is an older video but I still found it useful. I have a 2017 HD Street Glide. The lifters started making a lot of noise at startup within the first 1200 mile weekend ride. I figured if it was already broken, I would use amsoil synthetic atf to clean the lifters. I ran it for 1000 miles and the lifter noise stopped at about 300 miles into this cleaning. on the next oil change I switched to amoil 10w50 dirt bike oil. the bike is performing very well and not making any noise at startup. next oil change is this weekend (3k mile intervals except for this test for 1k), I will go back to the amsoil 20w50 and I am going to Blairsville for vacation. I would not want to push my luck and will just see if this amsoil atf actually cleaned lifters!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you very much! Impressive results from Amsoil ATF!
@KevinxDoll
@KevinxDoll 6 лет назад
Do best rattle can bedliner durability test.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
This is a great recommendation--thank you!
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 6 лет назад
Sure it'll work but I don't know about the detergent additives regular motor oil has. 5 and 10 weight engine oil is a common thing but not for me. I LIKE my oil pressure! GOOD TEST, COMMANDER! The BEST 2 yall!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 лет назад
Lewie, Thank you very much and all the best to you and yours!
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 6 лет назад
We are blessed with the best!
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 6 лет назад
yes its more about the additives than the base oil, it would on a longer scale be worse, but youd need a laboratory to tell, when you can measure dissolved metals and judge how much the wear is, it may compare similar to a very old engine oil, back in the old days, it was the same oil for 2 strokes as car engine oil, which was the same for a diesel vehicle too.
@mostlymoparih5682
@mostlymoparih5682 6 лет назад
I sea you are on your best behavior here Lewie. Yeah ya can wash dishes with water but the detergent makes it easier.
@lewiemcneely9143
@lewiemcneely9143 6 лет назад
Yesa, I iz IH! I use diesel formula Delo or Valvoline 15/40 in everything I have and I've never had a lube issue yet. The high detergent, high dispersant will keep the sludge out and let it go down the drain when it's changing time.The loader I ran had 24K hours on it when I left and NO problems at all. Probably is still going but I haven't been back in a while to see. The good old guys were all gone and I left with a smile on my mug but I had to remind myself to do it.
@that_neon_channel2438
@that_neon_channel2438 3 года назад
Used DEX 3 to replace 1 quart of oil in my old 96 3800 firebird. After its first start in 10 years, the lifters were nice a loud. Ran it for roughly 3-5 days each with about 30 minutes of drive time and that engine never made another sound again. I did use new inexpensive oil with my ATF.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 года назад
Great information. Thank you
@keithwest4689
@keithwest4689 5 лет назад
You're video's are totally amazing. Me and my wife watch them all the time. I seen you're one with epoxies, have you ever heard of Marine Tex? I used this stuff when I had a boat and it was amazing. If you have a video with it in it can you give me a link to it? Thanks so much and keep making these awesome videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 лет назад
Thank you very much! I need to test Marine Tex soon.
@keithwest4689
@keithwest4689 5 лет назад
@@ProjectFarm ty so much, can't wait to see that video.
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