Fantastica documentazione...invidio in senso buono chi ha avuto la fortuna di essere un po'più grande di me e poter vivere da vicino quella fase così bella e positiva della storia dell'automobililismo
Just imagine, testing that fantastic car and they pay you for doing it !!! Walter Röhrl, you are my hero. Did somebody check on a certain identically prime, Group B times vs. todays cars?
I agree, i said this when i heard them testing the gallardo on top gear in Monte Carlo about a year ago. It's an Audi engine in the Gallardo i believe.
@z18turbo within 2 years groupA were quicker than gpB.hard to believe but thats what handling and tyres can do.like the bmw quoate 'powers nothing without control'
I agree, I spoke with Harald at last years Rally Legend in San Marino, my son and I drove our ur quattro from Wales to the event and were treated like royalty, the funny thing was, I looked at Harald and thought that he had aged, then I looked in the mirror..... P.s you're a lucky git!!
@markandrach Don't forget also that group B cars ran on much more open stages than moden cars so it can be hard to compare the two. Would have been great to see what these would have evolved into without the modrern regulations.
Did the S1E2 for the 1986 campaign have 600 BHP and what was the output on the 2 PDK box models? I always wondered if they had slightly more, because the one in the 85 RAC rally looked very fast before it went off the road. I've also read on some posts the engine was capable of 1000BHP, but I cant imagine the turbo lasting that long..
@mupp33n many people say thar rally died when Group B was banned... I don't agree with that! We all can watch videos of the 90's with the stages full of people, having a great joy following their heroes and the new cars (Group A and WRC after that...). Rally died when many manufaturers like Subaru, Peugeot, Mitsubishi, Toyota (and others) decided to abandon rally! And then only Ford and Citroen remained in the fight for the title, but Citroen and Loeb were obviously better all this years..
@mupp33n I wonder if that's because rally is so unpredictable. You never know who's going to win and there are so many different manufacturers, and cars are so diverse, every race is different. Oh wait, none of that is true anymore :(
@pershio I don't like some things the FIA is thinking of but banning Group B was the right decision. Rest in Peace Michel Wyder, Sergio Cresto, Henri Toivonen and several spectators.
might have something to do with, no2 instead of fire extinguishers!, 600hp and cars made of early technology carbon/kevlar too many spectators getting in the way to see the spectacle, portugal 1986? its a shame but it was inevitable
@pershio Because they want control. WRC is dead in comparison to Group B rally. There was like hundreds of thousands in the spectators/audiences back then, now you see like 5 people standing here and there.
@Baena87 how very wrong u are, altho the audi factory refused to move the engine, as it was suppose to resemble production audis of that era, the fact that audi led a few rallies b4 sucomming to various issues, and the fact that Walter trounced the pugs in San Remo, Hannu led both the pugs and lancias in the lombard RAC means they were still very competitive, the wings and PDK gearboxes wud have kept them very much there with a shout
@Hackmannhasstaudi cannot compare the two cars, two completely different machines which run to two seperate rules, the lancia had no rivals for a few years, till the celica began making it look slow, wheres the audi was running as a production model (or be it highly modified) against mid engined purpose built cars!
@Hackmannhasstaudi cannot compare a 405 full of tech and running a Evolution 205 engine to a simple GR B Audi, just like u cannot compare a 405 with the ultra modern suzuki, 3 different generations, the fastest Gp B car up the mountain was the pikes peak audi
