Conscendo Advanced to shorten the approach. Same for my Radian, which doesn't have spoilerons. F-4 to shorten the rollout or for air braking. My apprentice to back up on the water. Of course it would just be nice to back up my P-39 and Cherokee.
@@SVGERichy The F-16 has too many cheater holes, but the Havoc would be perfect. If I ever get one, I’m putting smart in it for the reversing and battery telemetry to maximize flight times
Great video, and we'll explained. Love the idea you can update esc without programmer..... Question: will you eventually be able to update your smart receiver too from tx? Or will always need the cable?
Nice instructional video, thank you. Please add the first step to enter the Smart ESC Programming Screen. I found this part missing from your video and only reading one of your replies realized that when you said go to Telemetry, it was not the Menu item but a full thumb roller to the right before you can see the menu for SMART ESC. Once there my model set up prevented me from completing the steps because the stick movement no longer resulted in +100 / -100 registering to the programmer. So I set up a new model, fresh called "TEST" with no limits or trim setting and I was able to enter the menu and change the ESC successfully using the instructions in this video. Very cool. Initially I tried using the Stick Programming Method and it didn't work properly. I know this because I have used the same method to program 3 other manufacturers ESCs and theirs seem to read my inputs more precisely. Overall this is a nice way to quickly change ESC parameters on the fly, but you still need to set up a fresh model with no presets for trim or rates so that the stick registers -100 at one end and +100 at the other. HOPE THIS HELPS ANY OF YOU STRUGGLING WITH THIS. Scott
Well I managed to program thrust reversal on a twin motor plane with two 60 amp Avian ESCs. Both ESC were programmed separately with Rx slot 1 and then both were connected to Rx slot 1 with a Y connector with the red wire removed from one Y connecting to one of the ESCs. Cannot rely on the telemetry however, but no matter, I don't need it for that fast plane, just the timer alarm and voice on the aileron, elevator and rudder rate switches.
First off I added Text Gen in my Telemetry screen (iX12). Then I opened the ESC tab in the Telemetry screen and added some motor info: Poles, cell #. Better success now.
Hello, thank you very much for this usefull video. But I have one problem: I can open programming menu (with the rigt stick), but it is not possible move between the programming options (e. g. FLIGHT MODE, BRAKE TYPE etc.). The transmitter don't react on my moving up and down with right stick. Could you give me any advice? Thank you very much! 🙂
Hello, I can't get throttle reverse to function from my TX using the AUX2 assigned switch on CH7 on a DX9 (FW 2.07/2.08) and my Avian (SPMXAE1060) ESC 60 A (FW 4.0.21) connected to an updated AR620 (FW 2.42 ). The throw of switch D on CH7 is set from -100 to 100. Telemetry is functioning and I can access the Avian menu from my TX. Any suggestions?
I got a twin timber, updated reciever and since that unlocked it basically i setup the plane in forwsrd programming but now my motors spin backwsrds like its in thrust reverse, idk if that is normal when unlocking the reciever then you have to change it back the right way in textgen
My ix14 is up to date according to Play Store, and yesterday I bought the Slow Ultra Stick. Avian Prog is not showing up on my radio, even following your tips...😢
Thanks for the video it's very good. I have been searching for the information on how to get the Ultimate Biplane reverse thrust to work. But the manual is useless. It says reverse thrust is available. I used the roller wheel to look for the menu. But the Avian prog does not come on my NX 10 screen. I guess the 637 stock receiver isn't working with my esc so I can not use this function
Hi, the Avian Prog menu is not showing up when I scroll on my DX8e. I just got the new A10 64mm, and it says I should be able to do it. I do have a 90mm Viper from last year, and I was able to get the Avian Prog menu working for that plane, so I don’t know what the issue could be.
I just ordered the new E-Flite D-18 Beechcraft that has a Spektrum Avian dual 40 amp ESC ( SPMXAE0240A ). According to the manual it says you must program the ESC for Thrust Reverse with a Smart ESC Programming Box ( SPMXCA200 ). Your video says you can program any Avian ESC with a newer generation Spektrum radio. I have a new NX8. Can I program the Beechcraft D-18 for thrust reversing from my radio, or must I purchase the Programming Box to do this??, as stated in the manual. Thanks for your answer, I will watch for it.
Have updated the firmware to the latest on and Avian 80 Amp as installed in my eFlight 1.5m Mustang and the thrust reverse feature is working. I can program from a PC or the programmer, but the TextGen is not showing on my iX12. I have an AR637TA receiver, but I have updated the firmware and it is unlocked. Is there any reason I should not be seeing the TextGen 'Telemtry' on my iX12? Managed to get it to show by going into telemetry and selecting auto-config. It now shows but is inconsistent in letting me into the programming mode. I’ll rebind the receiver and see if that helps.
Make sure iX12 is up to date. Also it will not let you into text gen menu for esc if low rates are ON, SAFE is on, OR if you have throttled up. Hope that helps
With the new 80mm F-16's, with full fresh battery charge, programed the esc, at full throttle my motors pulsate and very little power is achieved in flight. What could be the issue. Using my DX-18 and it is updated. Both T-Bird and Viper are brand new. I've tried recalibration twice with same result. Pulse 6s 5000 45c.
Hi im a bit confused about how to connect, i have a 80amp Avian esc that has two power supplies and a 6250 with receiver seem to remember somewhere do i unplug the fan and power my reciver from there yours hopefully
Love the video and the new Avian ESC. Is it possible to do this same thing on a DX6 G2 for the "CH7 - dumby channel/internal channel"? Also where can i find a video on how to set up a Carbon Cub S2 1.3M BNF with my DX6 G2 and have my Flaps working? Is this possible, i know it was possible on the DXS RTF TX somehow.. Thanks
Its great it can be programmed from my (DX9) transmitter, but how do I remove that menu from my flight screen?? I dont want to see that menu while flying and monitoring my telemetry menus.
I put the Avian 60 Amp Brushless Smart ESC in my E-Flite Air Tractor and it causes the Elevator and Rudder servos to glitch. Had to go back to the stock ESC until I figure this out.
Actually found out the Air Tractor does not have the newer metal geared servos on the rudder and elevator. I had to go into the forward programming on the transmitter and set the frame rate on the rudder and elevator to 22ms.
Ok so it was fine once you went back to 22ms? because I'm getting the air tractor today and I'm putting an avian 60 amp ESC in it I have the nx6 and I know you could change frame rate I wonder if it Just defaults to 22 ms though..... What radio are you using the new nx6? Because then that would explain the freaking out on the rudder and elevator sevos. There was a problem/bug with I think five or six air receivers where elevator and rudder would twitch every 10 seconds... definitely couldn't fly with it and it was like clockwork every 10 seconds 🤷♂️ anyway horizon hobby just actually came out with a release about a month ago and It fixed that issue for the NX series....took me a while to find this out but I had bought a new citation longitude EDF UMX and I couldn't use it because I had this problem ... After pulling hair out and doing a crap ton of research for a few days and buying new reciever/2 new servos, I actually found this out through research online and looking at NXseries change logs( December's fw did say that it was a problem)... I was pretty much done at this point because new parts didn't work I couldn't figure it out and then binding to my old DXE for shits and giggles it worked perfect🤦♂️o🤦♂️🤦♂️ s right then and there i knew it was software.... after the newest update it was good to go ....but yea I was initially bummed couldn't use my new aircraft it definitely sat for a good while 🙄
@@MikeSarni I am on a DX8 Gen 2 and it defaults to 11ms. That caused the glitch. The two servos in the Air Tractor are not the upgraded ones the Timber X has so they need to be set at 22ms. I'm not sure about the NX6. The problem will be obvious if you have the issue. If it is, just go into the forward programming and set those servos to 22 ms.
@@LoveRC okay cool man .....will the stock air tractor receiver actually let you access forward programming? Or do we have to unlock the receiver on the computer first
@@MikeSarni sorry I had the numbers backwards ( corrected them in the message above) and the stock ESC does not have the problem. I put in the Avian ESC and had the problem. The servos were glitching. So... I updated the receiver to unlock it. I was then able to use forward programming to change the servos to 22ms.
Does anyone know if you get capacity (mAh) used telemetry if you don't have a smart battery? So my setup would be a DX8G2, AR6610T, an Avian ESC and a non-smart battery. If it works I would definitely get a smart ESC, especially with the new motor reversing.
If your esc is up to date you will get a approx % battery left. mAh consumed we removed from Smart esc's (even if using a smart lipo) because it was too inaccurate to be usable. % battery left is easier to understand and recognize on the fly. Hope that helps!
@@SpektrumRCvideos Thanks for the quick reply! Would you say the % battery is accurate enough to not have to use a timer? Because I started using a voltage sensor to know when to stop flying more accurately but this doesn't work very well because the voltage drops a lot when the battery is under load, so I'm hoping to replace that sensor. Also can you set alarms for when the percentage is below a certain amount?
Great video, and well explained. Love the idea you can update esc without programmer..... Question: will you eventually be able to update your smart receiver too from tx? Or will always need the cable?
@@SpektrumRCvideos Ok great. One more question.... With my NX10 on the way, does that mean I don't need the programmer box to update firmware? Or do I still need it to get latest updates on esc?
@@stuartworrell9442 Most of the Avian ESCs are now coming with this update BUT there are still some in the wild that will need the update so I would say better safe then sorry and get the updater just in case, at least for the near future.
There are couple of Avian apms available in the market. Now, I have a Smart RC battery 3200mAh 3S 11.1V 30C, and NX6 with an AR6610T. What kind of Avaian do I have to use. Also, do I have to use a telemetry. What kind if I have to.
Just updated my 120a and the motor is spinning backwards now. Tried changing the motor direction option but it doesn’t have any effect. Can’t swap the motor wires because they’re direct soldered and buried. Even setting a channel thrust reverse doesn’t work. Tried factory reset as well with no luck. Any suggestions? Using an ix12
Hi Donald, Make sure you are hitting exit w/ save when you change the motor direction. Changes will not take affect until you save the changes :) Hope that helps!
@@donaldvail23 looks like you found a bug! We have it in our log and it will be fixed in the next esc update. I would say in the meantime swap 2 wires. Also we did determine that thrust reversing does work propperly so you could just use that to drive the motor one way or the other ;)
@@SpektrumRCvideos Thanks for the update. I’ll have to try and figure out why the motor reversing isn’t working then. Is it possible to downgrade firmware if I can’t get it working? I still have the old version of the programmer on my pc. there’s no bullet connectors between the esc and motor, the wires are directly soldered, I’d really like to avoid having to tear the plane apart to get to the wires are re-solder them.
I have a Blade 330s and a NX8, Im not able to get the ESC menu to come up. I do not have the esc programming box to know what firmware my esc has. Is it more than likely the esc firmware needs to be updated first?
Correct, the esc firmware is likely out of date. That said I personally would not recommend messing with the settings on the esc unless you are trying to use it in a different model.
@@SpektrumRCvideos when I flip from normal mode to flight mode 1 or 2 my head speed bogs down and the heli drops unless I flip back to normal. This is with the recommended pitch and throttle curves per the the 330s manual (BNF version)
@@SpektrumRCvideos Really frustrated. I bought Draco PNF because of reverse thrust to use in my Futaba system. There is no other way to use reverse thrust with Futaba?
@@DrCho-en9cd Not that we have setup. Someone might be able to find a way to hack the SRXL2 data stream so it can be done but really it is part of our serial protocol (SRXL2) between the esc and the rx/tx. Might be a good idea to grab a NX8 for your Horizon Hobby aircraft or you gonna be missing out on a lot of the perks :)
I just ordered two 60amp Avian ESC's and two 40amp to do reverse thrust on a Freewing AL37 and Eflite 64mm A-10. Both have smart receivers and I’m using a DX8e Gen2. Do I need to program each ESC separately or will they both program to be the same during the process demonstrated in this video if they’re connected through a Y?
@@kalephgreen4375 I got a more in depth answer on the AL37 and it wasn't possible since you need to run the ESC's together. I ended up putting JP Brakes on it which works amazingly well and has saved me from several landings that would have gone off runway. I paired the brakes with the Assan AG63 side slip gyro/brake controller and the results are incredible! perfectly straight takeoffs with no trimming required and fast braking in a dead straight line with no steering input needed.
@@kalephgreen4375 I have the 65mm with 4mm axle which fits in perfectly. I’m only running a single jp brake wheel on each main and not using the stock mains. I didn’t think replacing the axle on the JP’s was worth it. Probably 20+ flights and it’s working great.
@@bucky32555 I just ordered two sets of 60mm mains and 40mm jp rollers for the front (want to try to lower it, and have it look a bit more scale) .. you think it would still work correctly splitting two brake wheels per channel? I'd imagine it would be half the effort, but it's split between 4 wheels..🤔
Is there anyway to connect this to the throttle for reverse on an airplane and run it like the collective / throttle on a helicopter so that mid point on the throttle is essentially 0 throttle, full up is 100 fwd (like normal) but as you cross the mid point it goes into reverse proportionally so that with the throttle stick all the way down it would be 100% reverse? This would open up some interesting options for 3D aerobatics.
It may be possible by running a mix, but need to do more testing to find a good suggestion. With indoor season around the corner hopefully we can publish a tutorial!
I updated my DX8 G2 back in September, and I just got all my Avian ESC's up to date. Will there be another Tx firmware update to be able to program the ESC from the Tx?
@@charliemarchiony7914 If you scroll all the way to the right while on the main screen it should appear there. It will not show up in Fwd programming or the telemetry menu with the latest TX firmware
@@SpektrumRCvideos I have the main screen, monitor, flight log, rx voltage, smart ESC min/max, smart ESC, battery info, and the smart battery screens. I'm using an AR620 from February, though it is updated. I've also tried with an updated AR637T, but the last screen it shows is Vario.
Love your videos Tom! Considering using 2 of the 120Amp Avian ESCs connected to EFlight Power 180 Brushless Outrunners in the Hangar 9 OV-10 with 12S configuration. Plan to use AR20310T receiver. Is this receiver a Smart receiver? Do you recommend an alternative receiver? Notice that this ESC does not support motor reversing. Is there an upgrade planned to include reversing on this ESC in the near future? If so, would both be assigned to the same switch on my Spektrum iX20? All of my current planes and jets are BNF or PNP foamies. This will be first ARF. Trying not to wait till last minute to resource all the parts.
Hi Dexter. Thank you! :) Currently the Powersafe receivers DO NOT support Smart ESC telemetry... It is in the works but it may likely be a new receiver :( The largest channel count Smart compatible RX at this time is the AR8020T and AR8360T (8 Ch) but more are in the works. ALSO the ESC does support reverse thrust with our latest update for the esc. BUT you do need a Smart receiver to perform this function so until we have a receiver for your application it is kind of a moot point.
Awesome Tom Thanks for the video, I had just asked Jason on last weeks show when this would be coming out and he didn't answer lol... Going to have some fun playing with the reversing on my esc's and i hope that heli auto rotation mode really works as it should. i have never figured out how to make it work right usin castle esc's Edit: I just updated my 15amp avian and tried to get to that screen but i don't see anything. my Radio is on 2.05 and honestly not sure about my AR410 would it not show up if its not up to date also? I am not seeing the Smart ESC option under my telemetry screen. I am guessing that is the one that makes this work?
Hello all hopefully I can get some quick help with a small situation. I am running a Avian ESC with a AR 637 receiver and I'm wanting to activate throttle reversing. Supposedly with the latest Ix20 firmware I should be able to program the ESC via the transmitter. I watched the video on it and the ESC Prog. Option It's not showing up anywhere that I can find. Does anyone know what I need to do to be able to program the ESC via the IX 20 transmitter?
@@SpektrumRCvideos I just updated my AR637T and Avian 60 amp esc and I still do not see a way to program/update from my IX20 nor do I see a way to turn on motor reversing in the programmer or software. What am I doing wrong?
@@erickessler6708 make sure you are running V4.0.21 from this download www.horizonhobby.com/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-horizon-master/default/dw28558c9c/Manuals/Spektrum-SmartLink-ESC-Update-and-Programming-Instructions.pdf
Ok so I just got a night timber x I also just upgraded to the nx6 with that said can I use full span ailerons reversing and safe at the same time or will I have to just have only as3x
It is not exactly a menu in the settings, but a telemetry screen that shows up when using smart esc with the latest update. Simply swipe all the way to the right while everything is connected and it will be there. The telemetry field is called Text Gen. Hope that helps!
@@SpektrumRCvideos ok, so I just have to order the SPMXCA200 to update the ESC I bought a week ago to get the firmware to be able to not use the SPMXCA200 to program the ESC in the future...
Why you guys never point out which wire lead is the actual reverse wire lead?! You demonstrate the function, sure! But you don't show which of the wire lead to have to put where, besides the throttle lead. Or is forward and reverse is from the single throttle lead only??
It stands for active free wheeling. Essentially it ramps down the rpm of the motor when the power is reduced to zero, encouraging the prop to keep free wheeling while in a glide etc.
@@SpektrumRCvideos I have a night radon and it's stuck on a3x mode and I can't get it back on safe. I binded it correctly and put both sticks towards the center and flick the switch five times back and forth no matter what I do safe won't activate any tips im using a dxs
With the flip of a switch, it brakes and stops the motor, then spins it up in the opposite direction. Probably a good idea not to flip that switch until touchdown
It works quite well! Now it can depend on the aircraft and how the inlet is setup but on a model with no cheater holes it works great as a landing brake :)
