BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE (Sam's Reviews) 

The part where Wonder Woman sat watching the clips of the heroes just felt lazy. I'll get called out for comparing but can you imagine if instead of Marvel introducing every hero in their own story, developing them and giving them personalities, Tony Stark just sat at his laptop and watched a five second clip of Thor running around or The Hulk wrecking a building and that was their introduction before teaming up? It would feel so forced and rushed, much like the Justice League.

The best tagline for this video: "SAM USES 'THE AMAZING SPIDERMAN 2' AS A POSITIVE EXAMPLE".

If "Captain America Civil War" was the cinematic equivalent of "All-Star Superman" in that it is expertly put together & incredibly entertaining. Then "Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice" is the cinematic equivalent of "All-Star Batman & Robin" in that it is nonsensically structured & moronic. I was worried about BvS but I am shocked at just how bad of a movie it really was. I might check out the Ultimate Edition, but it would take someone to REMAKE the movie in it's entirety to make it GOOD. Bruce Timm's "World's Finest" episodes is still the go-to Batman/Superman event.

I didn't see it. I'm smart.

I could have sworn that you reviewed this before. But then I checked and was surprised. Anyways, love your reviews

This film depressed me immensely. There was so much potential. They should've concentrated more on Batman's and Superman's psyche and character development, leave out the cinematic universe expansion to the end credits would've been better.

WAHOO!!! It's HERE! AWESOME! This was literally the worst cinematic expirience of my life and I can't wait to see you tear it to shreds.

I saw this thing in a theater packed with comic book fans of all ages. Almost from the first sequence, the restlessness of much of the audience was palpable. Audiences where I live tend to be pretty polite, so no one shouted at the screen or booed, as happened elsewhere. But the screening was filled with nervous laughter at places that were obviously not intended to be funny and groans at frequent intervals. By the time Wonder Woman read her email (!!!) about 1/3 of the audience had given up and left the theater. At the "Martha moment" fully half the remaining viewers variously groaned or burst out laughing or got up and walked out. Those of us who stuck it out until the awful end were not happy campers. I heard a lot of people muttering as they walked out about how angry they were at the writer, director, and studio, and many said they'd never go to a D.C. Superhero movie again. And these were comic fans, the base audience for WB to succeed. I later saw it again, under protest, with a regular audience which had pretty much the same reaction although with more incredulity and more early angry walkouts. So this movie seems to satisfy absolutely no one. Seriously what were they thinking? Great review by the way.

Brace yourselves, the DCEU Fanboys are coming....

It feels like WB/DC are ashamed of the history of they're comic books.

I've been looking forward to this for so. damn. long.

How dare you give a negative review to Murder Man Vs Captain Hypocrite.

Ever since this film came out I have seen people desperately try to claim this is a good film, or, even yet, somehow better than Civil War. I watched the THREE HOUR ultimate edition a couple days ago and I just don't. Understand.

This movie could've worked if it was just a Batman vs Superman story with a Justice League teaser post credits. One of the movie's many (but more obvious) problems was that they threw in: A new Batman who has to be introduced and fully fleshed out Jimmy Olsen Lex Luthor Wonder Woman Cameos of Justice League members Doomsday Darkseid Parademons Steppenwolf Death of Superman KGBeast Flashpoint Paradox Injustice alternate reality THEY BURNED THROUGH LIKE 6 MOVIES WORTH OF MATERIAL!!

You said the one thing that resonates with me the most...they just don't get these characters. Especially after Zack Snyder has been on record saying that people in costumes talking is stupid. You won't ever get any kind of deep, insightful or even contrasting dialogue from the characters. The perfect example is when Batman and Superman are going to fight. Superman could have easily said something to let Batman know that Lex is behind everything and that he doesn't want to fight him...but you need up getting a fight that was seriously underwhelming and ending with Superman saying, "Martha." Also, as you said, the movie could have done so much more with establishing their contrasting views. Show Metropolis as a bright city that is full of hope and show Gotham as a downtrodden city. They don't want to do that because using color or any positive words like 'hope' will be too much like Marvel, according to the fanboys. Again, what is Superman's issue with Batman? What does he philosophical disagree with Batman about? It can't be his killing because Superman does the same thing? This is again where this movie should have had another Man of Steel and a Batman movie before this. The first 2hrs of the movie is dialogue, which didnt have to happen if you have movies that established these characters better so we could see where they stand. I was over this movie when Superman said Martha and Batman's anger and hatred towards Superman just went away. So now all of Batman's villains can simply say Martha and they are good. It was such a contrived way to end the fight...and seriously, in a fight you will not call your mom by her first name...that's how you know it was contrived. Ugh...I am literally surprised this review is disliked into hell because the DC fanboys attack anyone who dislikes this movie. There will probably be a Reddit thread in DC_cinematic discussing this not too soon for now. Anyways, I appreciate your review...I remember on Facebook when you said that this movie broke you and I can understand why. It's really like DC just wants to make everything dark and gritty just for the hell of it. You have Superman who is the symbol of hope and Batman who can be the symbol of fear (not negatively but just as someone who injects fear into people) and you could have contrasted that visually and philosophically and it could have been a movie that made you think and made you understand both sides when they are believing what they do is right. But no...this is why I always believed that DC had no plans from the outset of MoS. Seriously, they showed MoS on television the other day and Metropolis was frickin' leveled and BvS showed none of the cleanup, none of the rebuilding. It could have touched upon it to give more context...but anyways...I am rambling, which happens when I talk about this movie. This movie was delayed a full year and this is still what they put out. I think this movie should get the harsh reviews it got because how do you make a movie that has 2 of most iconic superheroes and this is what you put out? You said that The Avengers had the characters bounce off of each other. That scene in the Hellicarrier will always be my favorite. You see all of their personalities clash with each other so you get to see the characters and you see that they all have issues with each other...great character development. I still don't know what that Superman stands for. Ugh. My thumbs are hurting so let me stop typing. Great review.

Being a DC comics fan, as well as a normal moviegoer myself, I honestly wanted to like this movie, but I'm sorry, it just didn't do it for me. _Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice_ was ultimately nothing but a cluttered mess of a movie, with mediocre characters, piss-poor development, unfocused motivations, unrelated plot points, pretentious pandering, and so many more things this movie did wrong that I'd be typing a long-ass comment to simply list all of them. I don't mind the cast choices for the most part however. Henry Cavill can still be a good Superman, and Ben Affleck _could_ work as a Batman that kills (though I'm not a fan of that version of Bruce Wayne), they just needed a more defined and well-developed script that understood the characters of Clark and Bruce and gave them more to work with, rather than just have them walk around and lack distinctive personalities and have them go head-to-head just because of a simple misunderstanding. What I hate most about movies like these is that the director thinks simply because everything is dull, lifeless, dreary, and depressing, that it makes for a dark, mature, and gritty experience, therefore making the films intelligent and complex... Those film directors couldn't be anymore wrong in this regard. Just because you place your characters in a colorless world and make them say self-indulgent, philosophically pretentious dialogue, doesn't mean you're being deep or intelligent, it just means you have an inflated self-important ego, and you don't know what you're doing with the material in your possession. DC comics has plenty of properties that were dark and grim, yet they still had interesting and compelling stories and perfectly-fleshed out characters with distinctive motives (examples: _Batman: Mask of the Phantasm_, _The Dark Knight_, and _Batman: Under The Red Hood_) And of course, there's the obvious pandering to DC fanboys by adding in moments from famous story lines of yesteryear simply because they happened in the comics, such as Batman fighting Superman (The Dark Knight Returns) and Superman fighting and being "killed" by Doomsday (Death of Superman). You can argue all you want that that's what fans want to see on the big screen, but WHY they wanted to see it was completely absent and nonexistent. What also doesn't help this is the issue of Superman's character in this movie being so unrealized and muddled up, that it was made virtually impossible for me to feel attached to him when he fought against the popular grey-skinned goliath. And knowing Henry Cavill's potential for the character, this is utterly made even worse, which is so aggravating to me. Overall, I was severely disappointed with this movie. It was a film that had lots of potential, but in the end, it amounted to a product that was nothing but boring dialogue, dull characters, pandering fan-service, uninteresting ideas, and lifeless atmosphere. Of course it's not the worst superhero movie out there, nor is it the worst I've seen, but it's most definitely not among the best either, not by a long shot.

Sorry Sam, but Jesse Eisenberg was the worst part of this movie.. He's not even playing Lex!! More like a mix of Riddler and Joker.

Tried to watch the ultimate cut, couldn't do it.. 1 hour 30 minutes in, near half way I felt depressed as dogshit. I can't finish the movie again, I can't do it.

(slow clap) Fucking nailed it.

Obviously, you're right about these basic things like establishing shots. But this a contrarian's film. Anyone who would ask for these basic cinematic elements is immediately dismissed by the DC movie worshipping community as "Idiots who don't understand anything, and need things like establishing shots." To that, I would say merely excluding things that actually help your movie isn't the same thing as making a "masterpiece" as many hail this film as. But alas, Snyder knew that a good chunk of his audience were going to defend this movie no matter what, so by acting as though the film is really profound and deep, he got loads of people to heighten their conclusion that "This is the greatest superhero movie of all time!"

I agree with what you said about batman. He's dumb as fuck in this film and he's not calculating and intelligent like he's supposed to be he's just a brute. Which you could argue is the Frank Millar version but I don't like Frank's batman so maybe that why I didn't like it.

Great review Sam. Though I was surprised hearing you state some positive feedback about Jesse Eisenberg's portrayal a Lex Luthor. But nonetheless I totally agree and I too did laugh at the scene when Batman ran away from Dooms Day.

As you said, there's so much horribleness to dive into that it's nigh impossible to mention it all. But one of the biggest problems the film has is how much WB/DC attempted to cram in. We have a Superman sequel, a Batman reboot, the introduction of Wonder Woman, 3 ominous videos introducing us to the rest of Justice League as well as 4 villains. Yes, 4. Lex Luthor, Doomsday, a hint of Darkseid in the desert dream sequence and a scene featuring Stefanwolf left out of the theatrical cut of the film. WB/DC wanted to do in one film what Marvel did in about 6 films. As for the dark, bleak and depressing universe this film is set in consider that the film starts and ends with a funeral. Exactly what is Snyder trying to convince us of?! That being a hero is ultimately a death sentence?!! To say this film is a dumpster fire is an insult to dumpster fires.

Jesse Eisenberg was fucking awful too, he was worst and most cringe worthy character in the film.

The Dark Knight is an amazing movie but it sucks that that movie's legacy is making studios think that darker = better.

This age like Fine Wine

Great review! Agreed with most of your points. I totally understand your stance on Eisenberg as Lex but I just found him really annoying. I'd compare Affleck as Batman to Ewan Mcgregor as Obi wan in the Star Wars prequels. He was given shit to do and the writing was crap, however to his credit, I still bought him as the character and thought he did great. I actually really dug the Batsuit but, I agree, it did look awkward at times. It was perfect in the end battle, though. He had a neck and his physique was more like proper batman rather than bulky miller batman. Probably was wearing the stunt suit. I'm just glad they're moving away from the armor tech style from the Nolan and arkham series and Batman was something out of an urban myth like the boogeyman.

What Civil War did right, Dawn of Justice did wrong. Despite our differences on ASM2, at least that film tried despite Avi Arad and Sony ruining it. I honestly don't want to hate Dawn of Justice but it is hard not to be insulted by it. One way to describe it is one long excuse for itself that parasites of Man of Steel and Justice League.

what do you think about the ultimate cut

Zack Snyder said in a podcast that the reason for not doing the "heat scene" is because he thought it would be too silly to see two guys in costumes debating. I'm not kidding

Sam... THANK YOU!

I thought Batman and Superman were supposed to be noble. Wouldn't they resolve a misunderstanding rather than physically fighting?

man you deserve so much more, you can tell you put alot of effort in your writing and alwats offer insight as too why you think this is wrong or why its right. people need to wake up!

Hey Sam, what do you think of Wonder Woman's new theme song?

I'm confused are u and trilbee reviews the same person? Sounds so similar to me. Awesome videos either way

Spot on as usual, Sam. Well done.

I liked it but I can understand all his points. Love your reviews

I recently watched the Ultimate Edition/Cut of this movie, and although it helps the overall pacing, narrative, and character motive, I'd be lying if I said, "It fixed the movie completely." The extended cut does flesh out the characters and story more, while also filling out certain plot-holes, but the movie stills suffers a lot by trying to cram too much stuff in it in order to compete and catch up to Marvel. It is disappointing when you realize that the movie could have been so much more if it was given to those who grew and respected the source material like other movie creators. Although many have complained that the movie is not as "fun" "humorous" or "lighthearted" as the Marvel movies (The Avengers in particular), I honestly like that. Granted DC could be more fun with the films, but I appreciate that they are trying to take a mature and more adult approach with these characters,...key word being "trying" haha. Overall I enjoy the Ultimate Edition of Batman vs Superman a lot more than the theatrical cut, but I can still recognize its flaws.

Been waiting for you to upload this for months

13:38 What comic is this from? The art is gorgeous.

The "and funnily enough, i do not recomend it" was so Kermode. Chills... SO good.

great reviews man also welcome back man

im hearing the longer dvd version rearrange certain sequences and fleshes out some superman stuff.

It's cool Geoff Johns will potentially save the DCEU. He is heavily involved in all of the films now, so now there is a fighting chance.

can you do a review on the killing joke ?

Well worth the wait, thanks for a great review Sam! :) I have a funny relationship with this movie, at first I thought it was incredible, second viewing I thought it was terrible, then my third viewing I thought it's not THAT bad. I'm not sure I would agree with you on Zack Snyder or anyone else making these movies not being fans of the characters or not understanding them, because while Snyder may have said that at one point, there's absolutely no reason why you can't become a fan of these characters through the movie making process, people can change their views on certain characters when they work with them for a certain amount of time. About the Martha scene *sigh* YES it's executed very oddly, but the point to it is that Batman is realising that he was taking his vigilante morals to the absolute extreme, he was about to take a son away from his mother and risk becoming the same criminal that killed his own parents, hence why the scene flashed back to the opening scene to emphasize that point, I wouldn't exactly say they became friends, more like Batman would just help him out in that moment because there were bigger things at stake. I think the movie has a lot of redeeming elements, and for all that it wasn't great I liked that it wasn't the generic type of superhero schlock that we get today it wasn't afraid to be different. I know that Marvel in theory makes technically more competent movies but they're so formulaic that I find it difficult to really care about them at this point. Oh and you wanna talk about things that make no sense, look at Baron Zemo's whole plan in Civil War and try and tell me that it's not a complete leap in logic or that he didn't just read the script of the movie. Anyhow thank you for your thoughts Sam :) I'm sorry that the movie made you depressed, I hope Suicide Squad will give you some hope for this cinematic universe.

So Sam: which would you say is your harshest review to date: Star Wars Episode 2 or this one?

Completely agree with your Lex Luthor comment. While not the same character fans have grown up with (either through past Superman movies or through the Superman/Justice League animated series like I had), he was at least the most lively character. Flawed character actions and weird scenes aside (jolly rancher scene I'm looking at you) Jessie Eisenberg was the only actor who seemed to be invested in his role and he made the movie a little more enjoyable to watch.

Brilliant review you made such great points!

Excellent review as always Sam, keep up the great work.

I have not actually seen BvsS (though I predicted right off the bat it was going to suck), but oh boy was I amazed by the amount of hate this movie is getting! This might be Sam's best review yet and I don't blame him for waiting a few months to release it (as a reviewer myself, I have my on and off periods as well). If I had one nitpick with the review it would be Sam's criticism of Doomsday being a bland monster with no personality, as having read the original DEATH OF SUPERMAN comic, I know that Doomsday is not supposed to have a personality. He's characterized as a mindless and savage monster capable of infinitely evolving and acting solely on his anmilastic instinct to kill everything in his path. Essentially, the fact that Doomsday technically has no personality was done on purpose in the original comic as he's supposed to lack any sort of humanity or intelligence, therefore making him more monstrous and terrifying. But aside from that, GREAT REVIEW!

I also think they have not earned a batman vs superman fight , in the frank millers graphic novel they have been working together for years , the justice league has come and gone. The fight has been building up to that moment , this was the second film in the DCEU and you have them fight straight away wtf !

The problem with this movie version of Batman is that he is not as intelligent as he is in other material. That is the dumb problem they made. I actually love the movie but I completely agree that Batman was executed poorly, not visually in my opinion but character wise yes. In the comics and animated stuff he is a valuable member of the JL because of his intelligence and control however in this he really is just an angry rich guy. I find it hard to believe this version has 12 master degrees.

if you ever had a long minute I'd love to chime in on a podcast or just correspondence about what should this movie have been

People say Affleck was the best thing about this film + his incarnation of Batman? Yeah, a depth-deprived, dull-as-fuck, stupid, hypocritical version of the character & an actor who showed neither the emotional range of Christian Bale or the screen presence of Michael Keaton (Excluding animation here, though Conroy is pure badass) is the best thing about the movie... ACTUALLY, by this movie's standards... yeah, that sounds about right.

I loathe this awful cinematic universe. As a fan of DC comics and it's characters, I am consistently baffled and shocked at how wrong these movies are, how many people support them, how incoherent they manage to be, pretentious as hell with tons of empty, floaty dialogue, the complete and utter ruining of every goddamn character, cramming in every character into ensemble movies, the depressing-as-fuck tone, and so on and so forth. Reboot this, please, for the love of god. Here's phase one for ya: -Superman movie. -Batman movie. -Wonder Woman movie. -Aquaman movie. -Green Lantern movie (John Stewart). -Flash movie. -Justice League movie (introduce Martian Manhunter). There you go. Then "phase 2" could be sequels to the standalone films, new Justice League members such as Shazam, Green Arrow, Hawkman/Hawkgirl, Doctor Fate etc. Then do a Justice League 2. Then after that they can start doing more abstract things like Suicide Squad, Teen Titans, Booster Gold, Birds of Prey, New Green Lanterns, and more. Another thing they could do to improve on what Marvel fails at is don't make everything connected. I hate that shit. I'm so sick of everything being connected, with other Avengers making cameos in every movie now. Civil War was arguably more of an Iron man movie than a Captain America movie. Have the individual series' be connected, but they only come together in the ensemble movies like Justice League. This franchise could be amazing, but it just sucks ass.

That rant at the end was fucking awesome.

haha The way you described Batman in DKR is amazing! "Bigger, fatter 55 year old." lol Yeah basically. Reminds me of behind the scenes of Batman Begins. "Is this Batman or Fat Man?"

I loved man of steel but even I can admit that BvS was very underwhelming. Especially the 'iconic' fight.. Wtf

hey sam qhat do you think of dc plans after the fallout of this movie if you heard about it yet? gtting geoph johns to be their kevin fiege, giving zach snyder less control over the universe, changing their plans for the dceu etc

I am so happy, finally you made your review

Well worth the wait.

"If you hated this movie, it means you didn't understand it." I'm not going to see a movie titled "Batman v Superman" to be taught a fucking philosophical lesson, alright ? I'm going there to have FUN. And I'm not speaking specifically about the type of fun the MCU offers : even the Dark Knight trilogy, with all its serious themes, did not get crushed under them and respected its source material, ffs. This movie completely gave up on its superhero identity in order to bring over-ambitious themes ot the table. Know what the last movie to do this before BvS was ? Fant4stic. How did that turn out for that turd, uh ? In a movie which dealt with the long-awaited encounter between the two most iconic superhero of all time, followed by the formation of the *Trinity*, the "dark and gritty" treatment was just a terrible choice. This was meant to be a celebration, not a damn obituary of the superhero genre. (So what, the upcoming King Kong vs Godzilla should deal less with the fights between two mythical monsters, and more with "O, the death of nature !", is that it ? Fuck me.)

Honestly, the extended cut is actually really good, in my opinion. I love the extended cut of BvS.

i feel like your a very intelligent person. you also have a very interesting channel with alot of interesting videos and you definitely deserve more subs!!!

Thank you Sam! Amazing review

the many things wrong with this movie is so wrong it makes amazing Spiderman 2 look like the dark Knight

Nothing like a Sam's Channel to end my weekend!

He's finally reviewed it 😃

This is a "Bro's" idea of a superhero movie. The kind of person who drinks Mountain Dew while eating Doritos and playing any COD game from the past 7 years on Xbox one or 360, powning newbs while wearing a baseball cap and being racist and sexist. You could even see superman and batman in this as the representation of the jocks and Eisenberg's horrendous Luther as the jocks idea of a nerd who likes other superhero films with colour and fun, being portrayed as childish, awkward, annoying, and yet somehow being extremely smart and owning all the best toys. To sum up, this is a school bully's fantasy come to life.

I think the best way to explain why this movie just doesn't work in the slightest is the title fight itself. Any comic book fan knows the reason 'Batman V Superman' is such a great idea is that these two characters have completely opposite ideologies and seeing these two battle is both awesome and kind of thought provoking. And the movie does not get this at all. For all the self important dialogue thrown in, the film never attempts to explore the characters beyond the basic surface level, nor does it ever try to show that these two have opposite beliefs and ideologies in any way. It just thinks throwing the fight in will automatically make it engaging. But when you don't give us a real reason to care about either character, it becomes boring. The title fight, the entire point of making this film, is unengaging, boring, and shoe horned in. How the hell do you mess up a concept as simple as BATMAN VS SUPERMAN?!

I mostly agree with you but the actors weren't mailing it in. Ben Affleck was really into the role of batman and zack Snyder was as enthusiastic because he wanted to have his 3 hour cut in cinemas. (No ultimate cut)

Having now watched both _BvS_ and _Suicide Squad_, I can honestly say that the DCEU feels like the *_Bayformers_** of superhero films*. Ugh. What a shame.

Hey Sam, love your reviews. Would you do a review on Creed?

I hear the Ultimate Edition DOES clarify a few things like Lex's motivation and his plans along with Superman actually being you know, SUPERMAN but the problems with the theatrical cut are still there and just as bad. So while it does clear up a few things the 30 minutes added doesn't save it from being a bad movie. If you hated the version in theaters then this new version isn't gonna win you over.

I made popcorn for this. Im Excited to watch this.

I think maybe Batman didn't want to kill Superman anymore because when he saw that Superman's mother was in trouble he could relate to that and felt sympathy. But still, he wouldn't turn on a dime like that. Also, you would think that since they hate each other for being murderers they would do something to prove that wrong or something to earn each others trust, but they don't to that. No matter what way you look at that scene, whether its Martha having the same name or something else. IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!

I wonder how the Ultimate Edition is faring out?

It's ironic that in their attempts to make superhero movies "dark and gritty" they make it much harder to take them seriously than a superhero movie that can have serious moments but still also know how to have fun, and not be ashamed of itself for being a superhero movie. But really, I blame Chris Nolan for this. They keep trying to emulate his style which was always overrated.

Sam, I could write a dissertation on the levels on which which this movie fails. I was completely unaware that Zack Snyder genuinely disliked Superman. that would explain a lot. He really dipped into full-on dr. Manhattan, I look down on you people, I'm emo and sad and Grim all the time territory. you know when you were a little kid and you knew that one kid who put an m-80 in a frog and think it was the funniest thing in the world? I feel like Zack Snyder is that kid and they let him make movies

Gonna review The Shallows?

Agree 100%! I was waiting a while for this review!

Okay, I love your reviews and I am not a DC fanboy at all. In fact, I prefer Marvel. But when it comes to the whole Martha thing, there seems to be one obvious point that everyone keep missing in favor of the obvious. The reason why Batman stopped fighting once he heard Martha was because he realized something important about Superman. He wasn't just an alien, hellbent on destroying the world, but he was a human, with a mother as well. He dehumanized him throughout the fight, seeing him as a force that needed to be stopped, but only in the end did he realize that this wasn't a monster, but someone with a mother as well. The fact that his mother's name was Martha also resonated with him, making him realize that the two were more similar than he thought. The fact that his own mother's name was Martha showed to him that perhaps he was the bad guy here, and he agreed to see Superman in a more human light, and ensure that no more Marthas would die today. I know it's easy to see the scene as, "Batman stopped because of the name!!1", and the film certainly didn't do a great job in demonstrating this, but that's basically what it boiled down to. Not that this makes the film better in any way, and it's failure to get this properly across is certainly another demerit to its name, but it's something that needs to be said.

I thought Man of Steel was okay when it was dealing with the theme: "Is the world ready for Superman?" Unlike many, I understood what the filmmakers were trying to say with the two father figures taking opposing viewpoints (Jor El and Johnathan Kent), the angel and demon on Superman's shoulders, the christ imagery everybody spends too much time acknowledging, and the anti-christ imagery everybody pretends is not there. The question concerns itself with wondering if we, as humans, are up to the task of improving ourselves and entering into the bright new aeon where we mend the faulty Kryptonian ways and supersede them. Superman felt we were ready to so such. Was he right? Interestingly enough, the action scenes were the ones I found boring. Especially when Superman went around the world to punch a diabolical machine in the Indian Ocean. I felt the movie kind of ground to a halt there, and I just turned off my brain for a little while. "This is the punchy action part for the masses that is required for a film like this to be a tentpole," is what I thought. I felt that when the Kryptonian craft was destroyed and it was just Superman and Zod, they should have stopped the action part of the film right there and got back to the meat and potatoes of the drama. Unfortunately, we got another action scene which ended in Superman killing the last Kryptonian for us. He chose us again. Fine. Unnecessary, but fine. Then I see Batman v Superman and one of people's chief complaints was "not enough Superman and Batman punching each other". Really? First there was *too much* in Man of Steel... then *not enough* in BvS? I gotta admit, I'm as confused by the public reaction as DC execs are. I didn't like BvS because it chose between drama and action in favor of *action*. I liked the *drama*. That's why I think I may be done with this iteration of the DCEU. But I liked Man of Steel and I stand by that assessment.

This is exactly what I think of Sony's current movies(including Venomverse and the scrapped TASM franchise) Most of them are dark and gritty with ugly color palettes. They pander to angsty tweens, think themselves as cool and mature while they're absolutely not.

Great review man. You've encompassed everything I have thought about this movie and even more. And don''t even get me started on the delusional so called "DC fans" who are deliberately pretending that Batman and Superman in this movie are being portrayed accurately from their comic counter parts because we all know that's bullshit. You took the words right out of my mouth. Let's hope Suicide Squad is a turning point for the DCU because at least it looks like the director gives a shit about those characters. And the most funny thing about this is was before this movie was released and people were looking at the trailers. All I saw was "RIP Marvel" and other stupid crap like that. So where are these idiots now? Oh yeah that's right, trying to convince me and others that this movie is somehow good and "deeper that it actually is" or "we're not smart enough to understand this movie". LOL!!

Even Tim Burton had passion for Batman.

Completely agree with your opinion on the movie

you see this whole movie is irrelevant a true batman would go detective mode and learn about supermans weaknesses so when the day comes and superman does go rogue batman would take care of him i mean in the context of the movie universe where in the two years did superman ever look like he wanted to take over the world seriously i mean i know he's depressing and uninspiring but still this superman is saving people i assume almost everyday so just why seriously but on a lighter note great review i completely agree

Now having played it, if you want a GOOD representation of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman that just so happens to be a sequel to a previous entity and has a *SPOILER* fight involving Batman and Superman at the end, just look at LEGO Batman 3. It even had more emotion put into that fight because the characters actually resemble their comic book counterparts and actually felt like three dimensional characters. It's sad that a game about toys managed to do that but not this.

I may disagree with a lot of your points on this movie Sam , but I still highly respect you as a movie reviewer. I'm not gonna sit here and refute your points, seeing as how most of them are entirely subjective, but there's a few things you seem to misunderstand: -Zack has admitted to being a huge Superman Fan. He loves comic books, and he loves these characters. -While you got Superman's motivations for not liking Batman spot on, you were completely off point for Batman's. It has nothing to do with Batman disapproving of the way Supes does things. After the black zero event, Bruce became blinded with paranoia. He saw way too much power that was completely unchecked and if Supes were to go rouge, nobody would be able to stop him. And due to him being a much older, jaded, and war hardened Bats that were used to, he takes his vendetta to far. That's his arc in the movie: Redeeming his faith in humanity, and becoming the hero he once was.

Finally been waiting on this

I'll always defend Man of Steel against you Sam. But I'll admit defeat with Batman V Superman. The politics, Batfleck and his fight scenes were the only good thing about this film IMO. Jesse Eisenberd as Lex, the fight between B & S, the story, the lead up, Doomsday, it was awful. I thought Superman would grow a character other than loving Lois Lane who is completely useless in the film. He's just a mopey beef cake the whole film. I tried making sense of it all like the people who saw the Phantom Menace when it came out in 1999, but I just can't let it go what a miss this movie was. So much wasted potential and shitty decisions, except for Batfleck, he was awesome.

been waiting for this review

Would you do a rereview of ultimate spider man

wait... didn't batman know that clark was superman? how did he find that bit of info without also learning that clark's mom was martha?

First to comment! Very glad this came out at last since many months now. Great review by the way and I can't wait for you to say upon DC's 3rd movie on Sucide Squad. What do you think on the recent Ultiamte verison where many people say like the Power Rangers Super Megforce Legendary Battle extended verison were they are both superior to the original verison but it still not good as a whole?

Preach it, Sister! I can't believe people liked this movie. I audibly groaned when that last shot happened and I was alone in my room and it wasn't on purpose.

Well said, my friend. Well said.

Absolutely spot on analysis.