What makes it even more amazing is that if Omni-Man actually stepped in, he would've probably handed him his discount, Holiday Sale Superman ass as well
@@svenkrules9855 Depends, thing that is worth noting is the makers of the show have clearly said things in the show are not the same as the comic. I wanted if Battle Beast is starting at the same level or if he will grow to it now. hard to tell till we see more.
I love how he is introduced as a random henchman but by the end of the episode he has obliterated the entire team including the main character like it's nothing.
I like to think Battle Beast was only half-assing it since the fight was so one sided. Mark was just unlucky enough to get him interested for a minute.
@@Radiodragonofdoomfr, if battlebeasts whole thing was i won’t fight someone unless it’s fair, he would’ve slaughtered everyone there including mark and do it with ease
This is part of why Invincible is so special… Battle Beast is introduced in a way that makes you think he’s just an average thug for hire. But he could actually slaughter everyone in that room by himself and hold his own against many of the strongest characters in the Universe… Invincible understands a lot of the most common Superhero tropes we’ve all grown up with and subverts your expectations.
I honestly kind of doubt the author had originally planned for Battle Beast to be arguably the second strongest character in the entire story. Imho, it just doesn't make sense that someone like him would have to go through some random rich criminal overlord to get a fight on Earth. My bet is that the author decided to make him THAT strong later on.
@@CheekiTiki nah bro, the comics showed Battle beast was OP. Not gonna do any major spoiling but he 1v1s the strongest character in the comics He was always that strong.
@@pain2573 Yeah, I know. I am trying to say that the author of the comics probably didn't actually know he was gonna make Battle Beast that strong when he first introduced him and that he kind of just made him that strong later cuz why not. That's just my guess though.
@@CheekiTiki battle beast becomes only strong after training and preparing for his final fight. At this point in the story, he is strong, but nolan could take him. But later on in the story, bb becomes too strong
Battle beast sees viltrumites the way most people see Nazis he would have killed him and nothing or no one could've stopped him he knows who omniman is but not mark
Everyone when they first saw this scene. “ Oh! Omniman is just teaching Mark a lesson that there are more powerful villians out there!” When in reality he is thinking “No fking way im fighting Battle Beast.”
Makes me think..... if a scrub like Machinehead could afford to hire Battle Beast as a goon.... why wouldn't Cecil (with a government budget like the US DoD's) afford him to kill Omni-Man later on?
@@thepaintingbanjo8894 because battle beast didnt care about the money he just wanted to fight someone that he deemed a worthy opponent and omni man aint that guy
He may not have used all his power in that blow,but judging from the way he was speaking,that strike at the end of the video was supposed to be a killing blow that Battle Beast legitimately thought was going to kill him. And Mark survives like a boss. He truly is invincible
@@baba3231no he actually is. In the comics he’s equally nuts. He straight up 1v1s the Viltrumite leader Thragg after deliberately injuring himself to make it fair, thanks to the Thragg having suffered injuries from a previous fight
@@baba3231 nah he didn't go the Mark route, he was already strong as hell, probably not as much but i bet he was on Omni-Man's level, or atleast that is as far as i remember, could be wrong
For those who don't know, Battle Beast later fights the leader of the Viltrumites, Thragg, but Thragg is mortally wounded, so Battle Beast cuts his stomach open with his sword and throws away his weapons and armor so that they have an even fight, and they fight for so long that the comic just keeps going and only occasion goes back to tell you "yeah, they're still fighting, btw."
@@BlazeWill yeah man someone did that with me for endgame, it sucks. at least he didn’t spoil the part where Thragg skins battlebeast and wears him as a fur after he wins the fight
@@BlazeWill Cool. There were dinosaurs. I think the "good guys" or whatever you want to call Mark's team, sicked a bunch of pterodactyls on Thragg in an attempt to kill him, but Battle Beast, who's name is actually Thok, was like "No, No, That's MY fight", so he jumps in and starts fighting them off with him. They fight the flying dinosaurs off, and Thok is like "Ok, now fight me!!!" And Thragg is like "Oh, so NOW you want to fight me that im mortally wounded and get your easy kill, hmm?", so Thok is like "Wait, you're right!", and he cuts his belly open and throws away his weapons and armor so that theyre on an even playing field, and Thragg scolds him for that and is like "WTF ARE YOU DOING?!?!? YOU DONT DO THAT IN A FIGHT!!!! IS THIS A GAME TO YOU???" And Thok gets SUPER offended at this and shouts "THIS ISNT A GAME!!! THIS IS MY LIFE!!!!!!!" And they have a big, mega, cool, awesome fight on a dying planet, like in DBZ. So they fight and they fight and they fight, until finally they're both at their last breath, and Thok loses. But he's not mad, and instead he thanks Thragg for giving him the best fight of his life, and he dies peacefully. Thragg is so honored at this, that he has Thok skinned and wears his pelt as a cape, and now they both fight together for the rest of Thragg's life, which I think Mark ultimately puts an end to anyway, idk. There. Enough of a lore dump for you?
And he only lost because he has no healing factor and, being the metal honorable maniac, just had to gut himself pre-fight to make the battle start on equal terms.
@@WTM__142 doesn’t matter Battle Beast is arguably one of the strongest people in there universe, him and thragg had a battle that lasted for days and battle beast hurt himself before to make it fair for thragg
@Rex Acad basic logic, dude. battle beast had weapons that could've damaged thragg, and he purposely wounded himself SEVERELY for the sake of having a fair fight, for more so than even thragg was wounded. if they fought at their peaks and if battle beast actually opted to use his weapons (which i wouldn't even consider unfair since thragg has a healing factor and BB doesn’t), there's at least a 60 percent chance battle beast would've won
Before reading the comics, I thought Nolan didn't intervene with Battle Beast to teach Mark a lesson. After reading the comic, I think Nolan knew what Batte Beast was truly capable of.
Yeah it's revealed in the comics Nolan knew about battle beast and a few other creatures in space that can go toe to toe with vultirmites and left notes for Mark to find them
Omni-Man was like "Ugh, I can't believe my son's struggling with these wretches. I guess I could go in, save him and give an earfu- IS THAT FUCKING BATTLE BEAST?! AW HELL NO, I AIN'T GOING THERE!"
This comic/show does a great job of flipping expectations on their head. I remember literally thinking “wow these are the most basic bad guy henchmen of all time” at first and then of course one of them turns out to be one of the coolest and strongest characters of all time
If a battle beast wanted a real challenge, he should have asked to enter battle alone. He should have been angry as soon as he arrived when he saw that he had an entire team on his side.
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 I don't think that's how it works. Viltrumites get stronger with age. And Nolan being thousands of years old, is powerful AF. But Mark being just 17 is at his weakest.
@@Trojanpige SPOILERS Viltrumites do not have an adrenal gland. This is what makes mark so different from his father. He has human anatomy and an adrenal response to anger. Look what humans with a shot of adrenaline can do. Now figure in a Viltrumites strength. It’s the reason Mark ends up becoming the strongest Viltrumite in history in the comics. He’s literally the only one who gets a power up from getting pissed off.
It seems to me that the reason Nolan called the new guardians was to make sure they died and did not pose a threat once more. Perhaps it could even shift the blame for murdering the old Guardians from him to Machine head and his henchmen. He couldn't possibly believe they could make a difference for Mark's survival
I figured it was both, if it's just Titan and Mark there, Battle Beast gets bored and plays 'How many pieces can I make this Viltrumite before it stops twitching?'. With the rest of the guardians there, he spreads out his pummelling juuuust enough that Mark survives the final blow
@@SirDoober Does Omni see Battle Beast and know who he is? If one of those isn't true, he might have genuinely thought the New Guys could have handled this. If Omni did see and recognize Battle Beast, then maybe he thought those guys would convince Beast no one here was worth his time and he'd screw off, like he did
If you have really think about it.. this was probably one of the coldest things Nolan did to mark before beating him to death 💀 Bro literally just sat back and watched his son almost died to a being CAPABLE of taking on viltrumites 🥲 guess gotta get rid of the weak some way 😂
That's an interesting idea. Although Omniman never proposes machine head or his hired help as suspects after this and stuck to accusing Darkblood. So i'm not sure if that was his real plan.
@@TheSCPStudio and yet she still treats him like shit after she realizes he's done more to help people than she ever will in her life. But he didn't tell her his secret identity so it's all good right? Lmfao.
I’m mad they made her black when they turned her into a bitch. Why even bother then. She’s not even the entertaining type of bitch. Black female characters already have enough stigma in animation.
@@bigjimmy3792 no I realize that. It’s just that she wasn’t nearly this bad in the comics. They really changed her up a bit here. It feels like they made a change for the worse in my opinion.
@@77Productions77 yea i see why that would be upsetting, i never read the comics though sadly. Im very happy with how the show turned out though one of the best superhero shows to come out in recent years
If a battle beast wanted a real challenge, he should have asked to enter battle alone. He should have been angry as soon as he arrived when he saw that he had an entire team on his side.
I like how Battle Beast is literally the strongest character in this universe but decided to nerf himself for various reasons which im not gonna spoil like an asshole lol
He's not the strongest character in the Invincible universe, he /fights/ the strongest character in the Invincible universe, on entirely equal footing (except that he can't fly - but i don't think they really bring it up so I guess it doesn't matter), and he loses, he's second strongest for sure, although id say that place is contested by Allen, Nolan and Mark
@@iainrickwood2623 you are kinda wrong, *spoiler* mark was almost as strong as thragg, and he was REAAALLYY young at the time, but still put up a fight and survived, 500 years into the future, prime invincible isn't getting beaten by no one, Mark Claps
A team is always a double-edged sword. A good functioning team can provide reliable backup, but it can easily be turned into a physical and emotional liability.
This is a weird scene to think that about, because his team mates showing up saved his life and didn't hinder his fight in any way. Battle Beast was going to pubstomp him no matter who showed up, and without his team there to take out some of the smaller threats and annoy Battle Beast into leaving, Mark 100% would've died.
Oh yeah, Battle Beast is another caliber entirely. If he hadn't been there, would've been a bit more cut and dry fight, with good team building action.
@@Blobbyo25 Yep, Battle Beast nearly butchered another viltrumite who was considerably stronger than Omni-Man. And he would've won that fight if he didn't cripple himself to make it an even playing field.
This is why animation is better for a TV series than live action. I'll never understand why so many people want everything to be real people when it will be never be able to portray superheroes with this sort of power and destruction.
zack snyder has a good way of capturing destruction and speed scaling seen by various films if it was captured like that i could see it see it being a win if it was portrayed correctly
Machine Head hiring battle beast to beat them up is lowkey one of the funniest comic book things I've ever seen. It's the literal equvalent of using a nuke to kill an ant.
Real quick, is it ever explained how basically psychic kingpin got a hold of what is essentially galactus? Because it’s weird he just had battle beast on speed dial
I love the subtle purr BB did at @2:27 because he actually got excited and thought he finally found someone that was gonna give him the hard fight he’s been looking for!
Does the tentacle guy have some sort of super-durability? Because invincible put him face first halfway through a stone wall, and then used him to beat down dollar-store electro. Best case scenario, he should be in critical condition, if not dead
@@thatoneantoid51 He has an alien parasite in his stomach that fused together after an accident. They work kind of symbiotic (like Venom, but less cool). The thing is that the parasite actually gets along and wants to protect the guy. Eventually the guy gets in a position where he loses his partner (the electric guy) and needs more power so he allows the symbiote to take control of more of his body. He becomes strong enough to fight of Invincible (after he had trained, and got older, and became A LOT stronger then he is in the series) and other powerful Supers. After he was defeated he was afraid of losing his mind, so he reverted the symbiotic connection to a less degree and became less powerful but kind of a good guy sometimes.
Battle Beast was capable of fighting Thragg, the most powerful Viltrumite, 1:1 and intentionally gave himself a handicap so he could have a fair fight. Their fight lasted days and Thragg barely won. Also Battle Beast thanked him for finally granting him death against an opponent worthy of killing him.
From the comics, Battle Beast's real name is Thokk and he's viewed by his people as an almost messianic figure who brought peace to their world. However, he became addicted to fighting and left to seek out challenging opponents. Besides his masterful fighting skill, Thokk's physical abilities are at least on par with a Viltrumite. He has vast superhuman strength, speed, stamina and durability and can stand toe-to-toe with the mightiest opponents in the universe. Besides that, he also has a daughter who shares her father's love of combat.
It isn't really that Thokk is addicted to fighting, more so that he is cursed to live forever until he finds someone capable of killing him, thus why he is constantly fighting to find a worthy opponent.
When I first saw this I thought Nolan was using it as a teaching experience for mark, which is why he didn’t step in. But after reading the comics I’m thinking Nolan knew who battle beast was and knew he would see him as the only thing worth his time there and kill him easily.
@@Mirar25 I think Nolan in this point of the story is confident enough to belive he could defeat BB... but only with enormous effort and MASSIVE colateral damage. so not worth the try either way.
@@stonepony95 oh yeah, easily. Considering he fought a much stronger viltrumite for days with his guts pouring out and still killed him I’d say Nolan wouldn’t be much of a problem.
Anyone else notice how you can see Omniman behind Battle Beast right before he lands the finishing blow? Omniman just sat and watched it all happen. Though to be fair, he'd probably die trying to save Invincible
Only person thragg will be trying to turn into a cape is omni man I’m guessing cuz he left his post. Thragg would have big time trouble with battle beast as well
love how he just seems like a random goon, when in reality he's strong enough to beat every single villain/hero in the video and probably the series (so far) at the same time
@@GalazyProductionsBro Allen was scared of Thragg, he sent battle beast to face Thragg after finding out where he was hiding. If Allen could hang with Thragg then he would've done it himself 😂😂
Considering battle beast had one of the most epic fights in fiction ever with thragg this is almost hilarious to see him here while Mark is still at level 2 of his superhero career 😂
That would makes them Saint Seiya characters then. Aside from the bloody battles (there's one point where Shaka literally tries drowning Ikki in blood), blood is required to fix the armors/cloths.
@@brian76541 Omni-Man will die. Don't get me wrong, it'll be one helluva fight, but Battle Beast nearly soloed a significantly stronger viltrumite, named Thragg, in the comics. And BB doesn't have a healing factor either, unlike viltrumites. For a lil' extra context, Thragg is quite capable of killing an experienced Invincible and heroically-inclined Omni-Man duo - if they don't have back-up help. Still, it would be one helluva fight. If Omni-Man worked with Invincible for it, they might have a fair shot.
Omni knew he would get wrecked too. Battle Beast is one of the strongest in the universe (according to the comics). Battle Beast being there is the equivalent of a mob boss hiring Thanos as "protection"
@@derekwillette447 but that battle against the leader of the viltrumites was post training the fist fight of battle beast against tragh he was stomped in just 1 hit at this point in time omniman was stronger
@@marc8959 tbh the first fight was in space and BB can't fly so yeah even one punch would have sent him flying. It's not indicative of his real strength
Battle Beast could've been the main villain of this series and that would've been fine. But the fact that he's a minor character who is so freakishly powerful that he brutally defeats nearly every hero and then just walks away is simply awesome!
On the first watch: Omniman doesn't help Mark beacuse he wants him to learn how to handle his fights. On the rewatch: Omniman didn't care enough about Mark, that's why he didn't help him but still called for backups. After reading the comic: Omniman was shitting himself and couldn't do more than call for backups
Pretty close to that big because mark and dinosaurus were able to beat some dude from another dimension who’s name was Literally Omnipotus and was actually damn near Omnipotent because he had drained his entire home dimension of energy, and mark still lost against thragg like twice, so bb probably would lose against true darkseid but he stands a good chance at defeating darkseids avatar/the versions we usually see in the dcau
When I first saw this, I assumed Battle Beast would be a generic mid-level "mini-boss" goon. Didn't realize he's like a HIGH HIGH tier guy in the Invincible universe lol
So this dude's a robot who has such advanced AI with his microchip he can predict the future, but he has to say out loud "carry the two" while counting. I love it.
that’s why i can’t bring myself to hate her yet, she has to have some underlying reason for the weird tonal shift in that last ep. either the writers just completely butchered her character last minute, or there’s something else about her that’ll be revealed in s2
Omni-man's actions here are so interesting, because he had to know that that z-list guardians squad couldn't do anything but die alongside his son, but a part of him clearly wanted to help Mark. But he also wanted to test him, but it's so interesting that when Mark got his stomach cracked open like a crab leg he didn't intervene. We know that they're not actually invincible, and I think a part of him was afraid that he couldn't win while another part wanted to teach Mark a lesson.
@@TomAndersonn tbh man I highly doubt the fight would last anywhere near that long. Thragg and battle beast were pretty much equal. And thragg practically ripped Nolan apart in 5 secs
The guy with the symbiote is incredibly powerful too. He was confusing as hell to me in the comics and his plotline went all over then just kinda stopped. I think they were going for a venom thing
I kinda feel for Battle Beast in a way. Imagine being so OP that you take a job just so you can fight a baby viltrumite in the hope that you might get some semblance of a challenge. That is like living in a world of ants and the closest thing you can find to a peer is a 2 year old.
Usually when Michael Dorn voices a character in a show, they give said character the Worf treatment and turn him into a glass cannon. It’s really satisfying to hear a voice as epic as his go with a character who is actually as badass as he looks.
The reason Omniman didn’t intervene wasn’t because he was scared of battle beast He just knew had he joined in the fight battle beast would’ve never left until one of them died
I totally missed how Omniman was out there watching and could have stepped in at any time. But instead he called Cecil to have the guardians come handle it
I just want to know what made battle beast agree to work with/for machine head in the first place. It's like the penguin hiring Darkseid to mess with rival gangs.
I hadn’t read the comics and kept expecting atleast one of the characters to get a rage boost or a power up or something to beat battle beast. I was thinking “what the hell why is this one goon giving everyone so much trouble!?”
Is it just me, or did Titan actually do kinda well against battle beast? I mean, he's made out of goddamn rocks, and he managed to get him to bleed a bit.
