Invincible Finally Learns Omni-Man Is A Viltrumite | Invincible | Prime Video 

I like how Mark was actually considering Nolan’s proposition until he called his mum a pet

I like the small detail that Nolan was born after the Purge. He has no idea if life before Viltrum’s Purge was “better”, he just commits genocides and betrays his friends because he believes in a history written by the Viltrumites who committed genocides and betrayed their friends.

So they look like Kryptonians but act like Saiyans. That's a badass combination

Imagine a world where everybody is muscled with a moustache. Perfect society

Steven Yeun killed it in this scene. He brought so much emotion.

I love how they made Nolan look more crazy by covering him in blood and blood-shotting his eyes from his fight with Immortal, really adds to the reasoning for Mark going against him

That pet comment truly was Mark's breaking point. If I was Nolan I'd have lied and said I loved her as much as I loved Mark.

I like how he says “It’s not something I want for you.” In reference to how Mark will outlive all the people he cares about. I think it’s a reality that has dawned on Omni-Man as well; the people he allows himself to care about will gradually disappear and he has passed on that burden to his son.

I feel like Nolan calling Debbie a pet was an attempt to force himself to detatch his emotions from her, because he really does love her. If Mark never got his powers then Nolan would happily be living hisnlife on earth with his wife and son. The turmoil is already in his head, and he genuinely does believe that the viltrumite empire is a force for good.

Amazing writing and voice acting for Mark. His reaction felt realistic.

Rewatching this entire episode after reading the comic completely flips the viewer's perspective of Nolan. When you originally thought he was always deep down a monstrous scumbag who was itching at the opportunity to cut loose and be himself, it turns out he became so accustomed to living on Earth that he actually hoped Mark would never get powers, so he can continue living there in peace. Earth changed him, Debbie changed him....and then his worst fears came true and Mark's powers awakened. It meant Viltrumites are now surely going to take interest in Earth, and because of this Nolan experiences internal turmoil. To be a loyal soldier of the Viltrum Empire, or to be a loving husband, father and protector of Earth. This entire sequence, the entire part...It's not Nolan trying to convince Mark that the Empire takeover of Earth should be allowed. It's Nolan trying to convince and delude *himself* that he is still a loyal soldier. When in reality, he is not. And when he later realizes this, and realizes how low he has sunk by nearly beating his beloved son to death in an effort to convince himself that he is still on the side of the Empire, he breaks into tears and leaves Earth.

Nolan actually held up his Viltrumites ideology pretty well considering how other Viltrumites, broke much faster than he was on Earth.

Nolan had to, in some level, been really proud of Mark putting his fists up against a clearly superior enemy instead of just backing down.

Some spoilers from the comic, but it's also rather telling that after the Scourge Virus nearly destroyed the Viltrumite population to the point they're not even in the triple digits anymore, their empire didn't collapse. It just stopped expanding. Not even a hundred viltrumites remain at this point, and they still keep the rest of the galaxy at bay. One can only imagine how terrifying they were when there were thousands of them. Kind of puts a terrifying edge on the fact that Mark proves that Viltrumite/Human crossbreeds are just as viable as full blooded Viltrumites. Earth is key to the Viltrumites regaining their numbers without diluting their capabilities

The balls mark had to raise his fist against his father is crazy

I love the visual foreshadowing of seeing conquest being one of the viltrumites that was amongst the elite that survived the cleansing process. That’s gonna be great foreshadowing in like 4 more seasons when mark actually fights him and we see how absurdly powerful he is.

Yknow, Nolan’s speech was going pretty good until ‘pet.’ 😂

The end result of this father and son fight is the first time a friggin cartoon made me hold back some tears. As a father it hit. Excellent writing.

After we were done, our population was cut in half... we didn't have time to wait on Thanos.

I like how they have viltrumites age slower the older they get. So that they can grow up fast and then live for a long time.

I've not watched this show at all, but the performance of Omni-Man's voice actor is deeply chilling in this. He's an Imperialist and believes in a perfect society through eugenics, but he has none of the hate or energy that these kind of people usually express. It's his reality, his view of the world. As far as he's concerned, this is normal and how the world is meant to be. Also, one of the words for "Power" in latin is "Imperium"., which is also synonymous with "Empire" and "Government". So, if you have a Superpower, are you a "Super-Imperialist"? I feel like that's a theme in this show.

4:14 Mark is such a good dude

Every time I see Omni-Man revealing that he's himself and not being controlled by any third party host, especially with that calm voice of his, it gives me chills; an utter feeling of despair, knowing that the father-son relationship is forever ruined and that it'll only get worse from there. This scene still HAUNTS me to this day.

Mark: "You said Viltrumites help people!" Omni-Man: "And we do. Our purpose is to get rid of that web slinging menace Spider-Man!"

Never thought about it, but when Omni Man first came to earth, he didn't immediately use force to conquer it, like he was taught and raised to do his entire life. Then there's his "we have a responsibility" quote, again this is his life, it's all he knows. And yet Nolan has these moments of hesitation. The seeds for the whole "Nature vs Nurture" could be argued were in Nolan long before Mark was born. Mark just helped trigger that internal conflict. God I love the character writing here. Especially the scene with a young Mark playing sports, where Nolan sees it as a waste if time, then Debbie rags on Nolan to be proud of what they created, be happy because of Mark. Not surprised Nolan seemingly one day snapped 180°, killing the Guardians. He probably fooled himself too well, then had a sudden realisation of the reason why he was there in the first place, living two lives, as Nolan, or the Viltrumite Conquerer. Common troupe in the spy genre, believing the life you've infiltrated is your own, and putting your own desires above the mission.

"She's more like a pet to me" "In the cosmic grands of things, yes" "Whats 17 more years? i can always start again. Make another kid" Man as if his punches isn't painful enough, those words is guaranteed will break peoples spirit.

"Also, among the Viltrumites, I'm the nicest."

When you put all you stat points into strength and suddenly have to make a charisma check.

A lot of what Nolan was saying was more to convince himself more so than Mark but the part where he mentions not wanting his son to watch the people he cares about grow old wither and die while he is still young was utterly genuine. That would be horrible to see friends and family you grew up with and are the same age grow old and die while you are effectively frozen in time. To also know that all the people you will ever know or care for will end up the same while you have to watch it all helpless to stop it.

Mark though that his father came from Krypton. Now he learned that his father came from Vegita.

"When it was over our population was cut in half" And the Darwin Award of the Millennium goes to... The Viltrumites!

I actually understand what he meant by a pet. Yes, he loves his wife like we do, but he understands that she will live and die in a short amount of his time.

Nolan was amazingly calm given all the fighting he had just been through. Cecil threw everything he had at him, including Frankenstein monsters and a Kaiju. Yet, he still explained everything well. "Like a pet" is brutal, but accurate given his power and longevity. Think about how we love our dogs and cats, but know we are going to outlive them and we are far more sophisticated. The only part that doesn't work for me is "Viltrumite blood is so pure you're almost full blooded." That makes no sense given how chromosomes work particularly given that Mark is male and the Y chromosome is smaller than the X he received from his mother.

Not all TV/movie actors are convincing when voicing animated characters, but the voice acting is so good on Invincible.

3:50 The moment he messed up, he might just have gotten somewhere uno, had he not said that

3:55 is where he messed up......The reasonings of living 10k years, and helping earth with tech and med were very strong and you can see mark starting to think, BUT WHEN HE SAID HIS MOM WAS A PET.....NAW BRO

Somebody else has probably already said this in the comments but it actually looked like Mark was onboard until Nolan called Debbie a "pet".

"But then he called my mother his 'pet,' and I took that personally."

Love how the first move Nolan makes is punching Mark directly in the chest like when he was training him.

Honestly, had Omni-Man chosen his words more carefully and refrained from calling Mark's mother a pet, he could've perhaps convinced him. To have a more advanced alien race fixing our problems doesn't sound that bad

Better dialogue than in most movies.

2:02 the way his voice breaks when he says that... you can see how much he regrets lying to Debbie, and that he DID care no matter what he said afterwords.

I won’t lie the speech was super convincing and I think it could have played out invincible would have joined. Right until he called his mom a pet. That was the breaking point.

I can't tell if Vegeta would be ecstatic or intimidated by Viltrumite history. Probably a bit of both.

J. K. Simmons being Omni’s VA is fantastic.

I feel like this process of eliminating the weak on their home planet would collapse on itself. Like what exactly do the Viltrumites consider weak on their planet, weak in power, personality, achievement? Also, what about children on Viltrum, they must not be as strong the adults so would they be eliminated? I mean i didnt see any children in the clip. Also, what made them stop at half, if they were so content of making each other perfect, why would they stop at half? Also, wouldnt whoever gets chosen as leader have multiple attempts on their life as well? Seriously, how did they decided a leader after this, i assume a lot of viltrumites tried to go for that position?

As Terrible of a person Nolan is, gotta respect him in that fact he didn’t lie to mark once. He was only vague with when he told him about viltrum when he was a kid

Notice how his voice trembles when he sayd "I couldn't tell your mother" at 2:03. She is not just a pet to him. He doesn't want to do what he's doing anymore.

“Mark, we need to talk.” Nolan said calmly.

Both J.K. and Steven overdid themselves on the voice acting; outstanding performance!

“We can help them we can stop wars solve world hunger give the medical technology century’s ahead of what they have now” 3:29 Omni man was saying all the right stuff here you can see the look on marks face that he’s trying to see if theirs really any good cause of what his dad is doing 3:38 but seeing the state that he’s in and what he just did immortal he’s on edge and unsure and then he said his mom is more like a pet to him 3:52 then Mark realized that he really didn’t give a dang about the human race and being able to do all the things he was saying for the human race would probably result in killing half of the population and enslaving the rest 3:57 but you can also see that Nolan really does care for his wife and mark and even became accustomed to living in human society but he has a point her and all the people wont last long to compared to him or his son not saying its ok but he’s saying it’ll only last for a moment so unfortunately it doesn’t really matter to them 😢

"This isn't how I wanted to do this, but I don't have a choice" "It's not something I want for you" sums up pretty much everything he's doing. He put it off for twenty years but it's not up to him anymore.

1:04 doesnt look weak, more like unlucky

So with the ageing process, does Mark just age normally like a human until hes 18 and then just stays looking like that for like half a century lol

I love how Omni man is basically Invader Zim if he were competent

To put into perspective how long they will live. Assuming a Viltrumite lives ONLY 2,000 years 77 earth years (average us lifespan) is only the equivalent to 3 years for them. Shorter than highschool lasted. That means being married for 50 years is the equivalent to dating someone for 2 years for them. a 'Generation' for humans is only 20-30 years, meaning every equivalent year an entire new generation of humans occurs. And if you look at info from outside the series (comics,handbooks) Viltrumite's likely live 10,000+ years easily but is speculated to be near infinite as aging slows down more and more as they get older. If it is ONLY 10,000 years dating someone for 77 years is like dating someone for a couple of months. Aka he has been dating nolans mom for the equivalent of a dozen or so days for him. If i met a person and we immediately became inseparable for a couple days and then they left. I wouldnt be that sad about losing them. Him calling his wife a pet is almost an overstatement.

what people don't realize is the fact Nolan is already well over a thousand years old here, possibly two thousand even. him saying he loved someone like a pet isnt actually as much of an insult as humans think.

1:13 Lol thats Thula and General Kregg, talk about foreshadowing-

3:28: Then go back where you came from!

Steven Yeun is such a great actor

1:14-1:18 I just noticed three Viltrumites were Conquest, Kregg, and Thula. Hopefully they show more Viltrumites in the future seasons, like Lucan and... (sigh) Anissa.

1:32 and now we can replace the pointing alien on this scene with Quan Chi

I can tell that Nolan loves his son a lot more than Eve’s dad loves her. The sadness he carries with him, that he masks with anger, shows that he truly loves mark and Debbie. But he’s loyal to Viltrum above all else, and he shows it. But Eve’s dad has only ever discouraged her, always telling her what her life should be because all he wants is for her to love the most boring normal life. Instead of supporting her even a little, he begrudgingly goes along with stuff that he clearly does not want. Because it’s all about him, not what his daughter wants. Nolan clearly loved and supported his son when he was younger. Obviously I’m not saying Mark deserved to be pummeled to near death, but at least we actually see Nolan loving and supporting his son before doing the most batshit insane thing he could have done.

He had him convinced there for a second, but he just had to call his mom a pet.

I love how the “We have a responsibility to viltrum” line is almost a twisted version of uncle bens famous quote

When you hear this for the first time and you go back to the first episode or two, it really dawns on your that it was really Mark setting things into motion and not Nolan. Sure Nolan killed the guardians of the globe but that was only AFTER he learned that Mark had gained his powers. Something that I’m not sure he wanted to happen. But once Mark was confirmed to be a pure blooded Viltrumite, that was pretty much Nolan’s queue to get his plan into motion.

“Once I was old enough I joined the war effort, it was hard but I *Believe* in our cause”. 1:29 The way Nolan said that was has me believe he needed to believe in the Viltrum empire after he lost his parents

He could've just said I love your mother and our empire could give her the DNA of our own to increase her lifespan to become a Viltrumite but sadly omni man's pride got in the way. He should've practiced more what he was about to say

"Give them medical technology centuries ahead of what they have now..." *Ok where do I sign up*

He already knew he was a Viltrumite, he just learned what that really means

He said Debbie was a.. a fking pet 😔

I remember watching this for the first time. No prior knowledge to the comics. I love this show so much

0:58 first shot of Viltrum and you see some guy being shotput'd out of the planet These mofos dont mess around

2:39 "Sure you were a viltromite", in other words, "sure your mother didn't cheat on me". 🤫

Honestly from Nolan’s perspective being raised in the viltrum empire surrounded by genocide and war this is just a way of life it’s normal to him. And the little info added about how insanely long their lifespan is you start to think how could he ever care for earth

What I like about this show is that Earth is a strong planet. Not full space age, but Robot is stronger than many Viltrumites Atom Eve could desintegrate them, if not for mental blocks Earthen Mafia hires people who specialise at killing Viltrumites It's not Wargammer, but I like stories where Earth is strong and not just because of like 10 superpeople

The thing about Nolan referring to Debbie as a pet is that it’s a lot less heartless than it would initially seem. From Nolan’s perspective, Debbie could never possibly live as long as any Viltrumite and she’s also a different species from Nolan, yet he seems to love her anyway. People tend to genuinely love their pets, even considering them equal to family, but those feelings won’t ever change the extent of any pets lifespan nor the difference in power between a pet and it’s owner. What Nolan said was certainly upsetting and dehumanizing, but from his perspective, no more inaccurate than how we view our own pets… with one VERY significant legal difference. 😅

You know if he didnt call his wife a pet he mightve succeeded in convincing mark.

Calling his mom a pet was pretty much it.

One of the best scenes from this to the fight sequence…the build up was pristine

Despite how old and wise Nolan seemingly is, It’s genuinely astounding to see how naive he was being here. He honestly thought Mark would just accept all of this, no questions asked and no pushback whatsoever……

Nola’s right. Only through the Empire can there be peace, freedom, and technical advancement.

if omni man would have waited to reveal his darkness long enough , for instance , if he waited till everyone mark knew had died , then I think mark would have joined him

It's kinda refreshing to see that he has to think hard about all of the points he had to come up with himself in his time on Earth. It's saddening though that you can see that he has to remind himself of these points (Giving them technology ahead of their time, stopping war and hunger, we already saved them a bunch) to try and convince Mark.

This episode is a total game changer. I even thought that Nolan is acting like a rebel or being a criminal in Viltrum - only for him to reveal the true scope of Viltrum and its galaxy spanning empire. And the fact that its an empire, that alone really put to scope why a coalition of planets are even forming just to even have a fighting chance against a planet full of Saiyan like Supermen geez....

I like how both the guardians and mark assumed he was being mind controlled

Steven nailed perfoming such complicated emotions, we can nearly feel all the emotions printed in his voice.

Mark looked like he was considering joining his father and conquering Earth until he called his mother a pet😻

Nolan wasn't trying to convince Mark that his way is right, but trying to convince *himself* that Debbie's way of life is wrong. He's caught in his own mental juggle of wether or not to bettay his comfortable, easy going life as a writer/superhero and throw it all away to be the loyal soldier he was bred to be. I hope that he sees that the Viltrumites ways are wrong and redeems himself, somehow.

Such a great show ,in my top 10 for animated shows of all time

1:15 For those who are not familiar with the comics, you have no idea how much of a treath and a savage that old man is

One of my favorite scenes in all of television series. So good.

I finally realize that Nolan is basically wrath from full metal alchemist

I like how this popped up on my feed just after Atom Eve aired. Even if nothing happens (I have a loose idea of the comics) Mark will in fact have a friend here that will be around as long as him.

The Viltrum Empire is essentially what General Zod wanted for Krypton

Mark is inocently correct. Even being so powerfull (just like Nolan alone destroying the entire planet on other dimension) there is no reasonable way of conquering earth, nor argue that with a half-human.

Mark already knows that Nolan is a Viltrumate. It's just that he was lied about the truth of Viltrumites.

It's a heartbreaking moment between father and son

Crazy. I just binged the entire season 1 for the third time yesterday. Excited for S2

It'll be interesting to learn in season 2 how conquered races are actually treated under the viltrum empire. I'd imagine that if it seems too good to be true it probably is