Battle of the Hero Shooter | Dropped Frames Episode 391

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War was declared between Hero Shooters as the recent Playstation State of Play gave a more detailed preview of their upcoming game Concord. But with Marvel Rivals also shown, are there now too many hero shooters? We go through all the recent announcements including Silent Hill 2, Infinity Nikki and Monster Hunter Wilds as well as plan our SGF content before ending on the games we've played!
0:00 - intro/scuff
2:15 - Is Bloodborne overrated?
9:30 - Sony State of Play
10:30 - Concord
24:30 - Login to God of War Ragnarok
29:50 - Dynasty Warriors Origins
31:20 - Infinity Nikki
36:40 - Battles of Antara
48:00 - Behemoth
51:10 - Alien VR
55:35 - Where Winds Meet
58:00 - Until Dawn Remake
1:00:00 - Path of Exile 2 coming to PS5
1:04:20 - Silent Hill 2 Remake
1:08:05 - Monster Hunter Wilds
1:11:40 - Astrobot
1:18:30 - Next Indie Direct 2024
1:38:00 - The plan for streaming SGF
2:30:00 - The Rogue Prince of Persia
2:36:10 - Parasite EVE 2
2:44:50 - Star Trek Resurgence
2:46:36 - Cohh finished Stellar Blade
2:52:50 - Soulmask
2:56:40 - Skald
2:59:40 - Shoutouts
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@kimthemisfit 27 дней назад

I love the Cursed Intro.

@a9fc 26 дней назад

I skipped, then heard something about the intro, then saw your comment..... so obviously I had to restart... lol!

@swedishZ0mBi3 27 дней назад

Me watching the intro: okay we are off too a good start lol

@ODDEROTTERS 27 дней назад

holy shit i just caught the tail-end of the podcast live, ya got this uploaded with timestamps QUICK

@Kyle_Ireton 27 дней назад

I love how fast they upload

@alphadelta141 27 дней назад

Idk if they touch on it in this, but all of the devs that appeared in the concord trailer were ex bungie devs, and very high up ones. For instance, Claude Jerome, the lead gameplay designer, was the lead gameplay designer for The Taken King and Forsaken expansions.

@itmeJP 27 дней назад

I did not know that! Explains a lot why I got such strong Destiny vibes from the gameplay

@Ghillie_Monster 27 дней назад

The concord trailer seemed like it could've been a well written "we robbed from the wrong people" storyline and been a cool single player / co-op shooter across a universe or something .. but they just make another boring competitive shooter

@impotenceaura 27 дней назад

The trailer got me interested, the gameplay revealed immediately noped me out.

@FactoryOfHorrors 27 дней назад

Until Dawn hasn't previously been available for PC, I think this can be considered the "port to PC" version. I'm pretty excited for it.

@Charbizard1 27 дней назад

Thanks for the quick upload!

@3yp0n 26 дней назад

Thank you again to the editor for the timestamps/chapters!

@nicholasg.5441 27 дней назад

Starting off reminding us that humans still run the intro

@andykobre779 26 дней назад

Astrobot was by far the most exciting part of the presentation.

@razxephon4873 27 дней назад

Monster hunter was captured on PS5, not too worried about the fps, games not out for 7-18 months

@minutmed33 27 дней назад

Committing "sudoku" is indeed so violent... All these numbers and empty cases... Scary stuff.

@PandahWatch 27 дней назад

That into was great 😂😂

@MichaKowalczyk 26 дней назад

01:39:55 here is highlight of the show

@Snix55 27 дней назад

Timestamps are time inaccurate, but great podcast like always >:D

@SabreRunner 26 дней назад

Don't remember where I read that but it's said that Skald is based on Dragons and Demons, a Swedish copycat of D&D from the early 80s. So, if it feels like a very old school TTRPG, it's because it's trying to be.

@vyris2663 27 дней назад

I hope we as a society can officially bury Joss Whedon style dialogue and move on.

@michaelhudson3737 27 дней назад

IT'S because they took the one style that worked super well with robert downey jr then cemented it with avengers and joss Whedon as a thing everyone should do but basically none of it was ever as good as with RDJ

@impotenceaura 27 дней назад

Pleaaaseeee. I've not been able to enjoy a big movie in over a decade because of this scourge.

@omegaeraser 27 дней назад

You'll have to wait 5-10 years until execs who greenlight this shit catch up.

@glthegamemaster4197 26 дней назад

I can attest with Cohh I like seeing you all on stream if possible for the events! Also that feature you're gonna test "Guest Star" or something, I hope you'll all still show on the vod and it wouldn't be live-only

@tropicata 23 дня назад

I just realized something. Concord might be Sony's first FPS game since Killzone Shadow Fall. Everything Playstation 1st party for the last ten years has been third person or driving. I could be missing something but I don't think so?

@chirijaden 26 дней назад

This episode should have been called "You're not wrong".

@itmeJP 26 дней назад

You're not wrong

@louiskusters9452 25 дней назад

I'll echo that.

@ElyonDominus 27 дней назад

I don't know about any of y'all but I really enjoyed three hours of Cohh hitting his desk.

@adavis7292 26 дней назад

Random comment i know but I'm a huge video game and board game fan. I'd absolutely love to see a Livestream of you guys playing the Frosthaven boardgame or a Tainted Grail boardgame.

@woytaz 26 дней назад

About "Last Standing" and "how has this not been made before?": you guys need to check out One Finger Death Punch!

@benjaminmatheny6683 27 дней назад

OceanGate studios. Shireen Baratheon studios. The Mist studios. Willy Loman studios.

@foreignuser_ 26 дней назад

Get a load of THESE guys!

@ericscasny9312 26 дней назад

every dev interview is basically "HEY! WANT TO INTERVIEW THE I.T. DIRECTOR ABOUT HIS JOB!??!?!" Nobody wants that!!!!

@Equalitro 27 дней назад

damn, I saw the thumbnail an was thinking we have another good guest

@Notinkham 27 дней назад

I wish the discussion about PSN login would have someone properly explain the point of view of someone living in a country that cant buy any SONY games on PC suddenly (EU one in my case). You can buy PS consoles in these countries, you can make PSN accounts by selecting other valid country and adding funds through gift cards or faking some data (basically doing things against TOS which they dont enforce). You could always figure out how to play these games on consoles, but for PC until now after recent events - when we open steam and search any of the games they dont appear there. If you pre-ordered it, it got auto refunded. If you have it in wishlist, it will redirect to an error page. Me and my friends pre-ordered Ghost of Tsushima on day 1 it was on steam and then we all got auto refunded. None of us would have minded creating throwaway PSN accounts. Now we wont be able to even buy single player games - Ragnarok as an example.

@enlightendbel 27 дней назад

Chinese anime is called Donghua.

@SmorgasLord 26 дней назад

that should be the new intro

@Redroomjjgfd 27 дней назад

Zeke is beautiful hahaha

@Talcor 26 дней назад

I want pc stellar blade just so i can get the ending outfit

@jeffreymaxson6216 27 дней назад

The game of the year will be the Elden Ring Expansion.

@zephron28 27 дней назад

Boss Tickets are a staple in most mobile games.

@velorama-tkkn 27 дней назад

cohh finally understanding what rng loot does to your brain lol. just plain old skinner boxes. also, your time is always worth something.

@noahmcclellan4372 26 дней назад

Yes Bloodborne was that awesome/

@Miv51miv51 26 дней назад

Cannon Fodder was an awesome game.

@uzi-mp5mg 27 дней назад

In UK PSN requires you to verify your age by mobile number, facial scan, or ID over another service provider.

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

Absolutely fantastic dropped frames episode especially all the games announcement and showcases

@lancema4634 27 дней назад

feels like 1st overwatch did so many things so well that is hard to get pass that in the hero shooter genre, is like any space movie after Star Wars in the 1980s was hitting that wall because they hit all the right notes that is really difficult to innovate it.

@wolvie90 27 дней назад

Overwatch was such a jewel in the beginning. Before all the e-sports shit, before the playerbase turned overly toxic and before Blizzard... well yeah. It was just quick play, have fun and everyone got participation trophies, it really reinforced good vibes. Blizzard designed the Overwatch cast like Pixar characters, everyone else does Guardians of the Galaxy and that is why they fail. I think everyone is just so sick and tired of snarky oneliners.

@MindfunkerMusic 27 дней назад

i just want to play bloodborne at 60 fps

@arthurchen6464 27 дней назад

19:47

@MajorCrasher 26 дней назад

I don't get the ps5 pro thing. Every ps5 game I've played already runs at 60 fps so i don't get why sony is selling it or why people are begrudgingly expecting to buy it when the base ps5 is more than good enough performance wise rn.

@MajorCrasher 26 дней назад

Bloodborne has become a cult classic but it didn't sell well at all on release. Neither Sony nor Fromsoft have any real proof that a port or remake will sell well either other than internet hype. Which doesn't always or even often translate to enough sales to justify the costs.

@percivaldotburgers 27 дней назад

My take on the hero shooter fatigue: it's because Overwatch was so good and popular that when it crashed and burned down as it was used for sympathy fuel for terrible people, it tainted the well

@sumireravenclaw8034 27 дней назад

Cohh: I don't have tiem to play soulmask right now. Me: but has time to paly elden ring for the 3rd time for another 100 hours. lol

@Elidan1012 27 дней назад

because he has scheduled doing that Elden Ring run, and because of it, there are other things he does not have time for. What is hard to understand?

@sumireravenclaw8034 27 дней назад

@@Elidan1012 Because he; literally played elden ring BACK TO FUCKING BACK rather than use his time wisely playing other games he hasn't played. Do you know how he often says he doesn't have time to play games? but plays this game again for the 3rd time? what's hard to understand?

@Elidan1012 26 дней назад

@@sumireravenclaw8034 It doesn't not matter if he played nothing but Elden Ring for the rest of his life. His statement would still be true. The fact YOU want to see him play something else is irrelavent. He doesn't have time because he would rather spent the time he has on something else. Does not matter what that 'something else' is.

@meeranhaq9479 27 дней назад

I'm holding out oin Concord until I at least try the beta or the game itself. The backlash has been crazy to see.

@Barbabonbon 27 дней назад

well of course diablo is made on the gambling win feel. You're still not paying for every pull

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

FeelsStrongMan Paradigm mentioned Let’s gooooo, West of Loathing mentioned as well from Zeke Pog

@aarond8295 27 дней назад

I hope Concord is good. We had one of the best online shooter in nearly a decade with OW1, then activiation completely killed it to the point where no one should be supporting it as far as im concerned. If they do concord right i'm all for it.

@rise4097 27 дней назад

I don’t think bloodborne is getting remastered because the physics are tied to the 30fps engine

@aliamer9007 27 дней назад

There is an unofficial ps4 pro patch that runs the game at 60fps

@PotatoRankEX 27 дней назад

Thats easy to fix and has been fixed by modders.

@apexanimo 27 дней назад

I believe Sony has Bloodborne PC port tucked away somewhere for a "rainy" day. They are pushing live-service games, and if things go downhill, then they have an ace up their sleeve 🤔

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

Let’s go indie games discussion and summer showcases Pog PagMan

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

I still remember when the 2018 dropped frames GOTY list and Zeke has paradigm on the list and Cohh was glade the game was on a someone’s list and now we got a rementioed this episode

@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor 27 дней назад

The soap box about gacha games always gets me when I've learned we all have are own vices in video games. Some are gacha(Genshin Impact), some are quality of life locked behind money(Path of Exile, paid subscription(World or Warcraft), and shovel ware games. I also learned not to trust streamers opinions if it's sponsored I'll wait till they're not sponsored. Until then it's all paid gray lies and bullet points. The older days when content creators didn't have to announce they were sponsored until the damage was already done. Those were some good ol times.

@Barbabonbon 25 дней назад

@1:44:43 Dropping this pin to go back to this amazing JPedia.

@EminemLovesGrapes 23 дня назад

If you google JPedia or add net as in a url (please don't delete my stuff youtube) you can also find the sheet. It's great!

@vincesergi7339 27 дней назад

I watched the state of play and seeing Concord, a hero shooter get like 20 minutes of spotlight and the rest get like 5-10 minutes blew my mind. Its a 40 minute show and you spent like 20 minutes on a game everyone just rolls their eyes at. So you guys have....nothing interesting to show us do you? That's just how I felt, although I am interested in Monster Hunter wilds.

@None38389 26 дней назад

I'm really not a fan of the idea of "overrated", overrated suggest that there is an objective and universal "correct" rating of the said property, yet such thing does not exist, Bloodborne can be as good or as bad as each individual person feel about it. If you feel like everybody likes a thing more than you do it just mean you have a different set of preferences from others and that's the end of story, nothing is being "overrated". No one is more correct than others on subjective matters like this, you thinking something isn't good does not change the fact that someone else really likes it. Both perspectives are valid and do not need to eliminate one another.

@konstantinkrastev4478 27 дней назад

JP we need a weekly movies and shows podcast

@MrRadiantMan 27 дней назад

No Bloodborne is absolutely not overrated. Its a game with great, slick combat, fantastic bosses (especially with The Old Hunters dlc) amazing atmosphere and music though its not my favorite fromsoftware game which is Sekiro

@dsagent 27 дней назад

Bloodborne is my top 5 games personally. The only reason I keep my PS4 in my room rather than putting it in storage.

@tommyspringfield7687 27 дней назад

Welcome to the family son!

@shadow12k 27 дней назад

45:47 cohh is too busy being self-righteous that he doesn’t even realize he’s arguing with himself. The same psychiatrist was in the world of Warcraft development rules to figure out how to get players addicted to playing their MMO just like Gacha games today are trying to figure out how to get money out of your pockets. It’s all the same thing. Nothing new here.

@ElyonDominus 27 дней назад

Cohh being self-righteous? Say it ain't so.

@Dopesaur 27 дней назад

I'd say that it's probably more that, to him, the pull of the proverbial slot machine shouldn't cost money, just time and effort. I don't necessarily think he is being too disingenuous there. But, frankly, World of Warcraft was a subscription based MMO that benefits from "wasting" your time with RNG. It's not super different, but different enough to him. We all draw the line in the sand somewhere for ourselves. Whether or not you think Cohhs line is wonky, or if he's dancing on both sides of it, is up to opinion. So I don't think you're categorically wrong for saying that.

@Daanootje36 27 дней назад

People seem to forget how bad the FPS was in several areas of Bloodborne. Try to play the game again on PS4. It is hard to go back and play that game without noticing these issues in year.

@olsongc8422 27 дней назад

How people feel about 5v5 hero shooters is how I feel about Souls-likes.

@timurdos 27 дней назад

fucking true. or any trend. darkest dungeon blew up? here's 40 indies DD-like. Darksouls blew up? Guess what. also tired of some good games i would play shove that DS combat in there for no reason.

@itmeJP 27 дней назад

How could you say something so brave yet controversial? 😅

@olsongc8422 26 дней назад

@@itmeJP Didn't think I would see a reply from you. Hope your weekend was good! I get why people like them, and I understand there are nuance differences between the different titles. However, they all feel the exact same, and for awhile it felt like every new game being announced was a Souls-Like. They also look all the same: edgy, Gothic, horror fantasy. I like Chocolate Silk pie, but sometimes I want Keylime or Banna Cream.

@FatStarPM 27 дней назад

I really don't understand the appeal of VR. I mean, sure, the technology is cool, but it's not something that I ever intend to own. No matter what game I'm playing I still want to be aware of my surroundings - pets, kids and other people around me etc. I really don't understand the appeal of it...

@sykode 26 дней назад

Bloodborne is SO awesome, I've never seen any of them replay it in the last 5-7 years. Starting with concord was bad, didn't the last state of play start with a infiltration shooter and then moved into Foamstars?

@rogerbabin8175 27 дней назад

With all the Microsoft talk....I feel like Dropped Frames has forgotten about the dozens of other gaming companies that also fired 10,000+ companies this year. Microsoft is the 'fresh' one because its recent and notable...they are FAR from the only one. This stuff was happening so frequently in Q1 2024 that Game Mess Mornings was covering news stories of it 3+ shows a week.

@NTeKLullaby 27 дней назад

The main issue with Hero Shooters is that a lot of the characters in one game are basically a mashup of characters in a different game. Both Personality wise and loadout/skill wise. No matter how well made they are, they always feel like knockoffs. It doesn't help that a lot of non hero shooter games have started incorporating these systems (cod & bf just to name some popular ones).

@Deminese2 27 дней назад

Hero shooters need to take risks. Instead of each character having 1 set skill set they need to give them customization and/or 2-3 sets of skills. They need PVE modes too. A lot of people do not want to play pvp and that can kill those games immediately when they have characters that would work in an rpg/pve system RIGHT THERE made.

@lykketrolle06 27 дней назад

Yeah, same stuff, different skin..

@YueShenDian 27 дней назад

would love to hear Rami's take on PSN stuff

@BlackTone91 27 дней назад

Im sure he dont have idea what they doing

@sumireravenclaw8034 27 дней назад

Cohh: well I lost interest in Balld of antarra. Me: won't stop you from taking a sponsorship for it though probably. lol

@timurdos 27 дней назад

did you even watch the video? cohh never streams gamble games. he didn't even stream genshin, and you can bet your ass they offered him an enormous bag.

@ELVIStheDotA 26 дней назад

One line he hasn't crossed yet is gacha

@timurdos 26 дней назад

@@ELVIStheDotA "one line", what other lines did he cross? did i miss something?

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

Pog

@Razzying 27 дней назад

Sony and its restricted countries reminds me of the different zones in Tiberium wars.

@BloodyBobJr 27 дней назад

So strange, I imagined that hero shooters are a bad investment..but their not? Companies are just making a bunch. Valve has one, X defiant is basically one, then marvel one..probably bunch more. I guess they just make easy money

@muja_bunny 27 дней назад

like asking an ai to file the serial numbers off gotg is the most brutal way to describe something

@BlueUltima9999 27 дней назад

Hero shooters typically have nothing deeper to them than the same gameplay there's no story, there's no deeper customization, there's no unique style in how one person can play a character differently than the other person; almost every hero shooter is the exact same formula from what team fortress first put out, and then blizzard refined with OverWatch

@BlueUltima9999 27 дней назад

I would be more interested in a hero shooter if it was PvE/vP , like with what Capcom tried to do with ExoPrimal I think people are tired of competitive games, and they want more cooperative experiences that they can play with their friends, and they are fighting a common enemy that they can build strategies against, rather than some no lifer who understands the frame data, and you can't actually get better against because you don't have the time

@Ghillie_Monster 27 дней назад

I was thinking the same thing, but phrased it differently. They all have these really elaborate cutscenes and trailers to make it seem like you're going to be introduced in a novel, to end up just being "escort this across the map" "secure these 3 points" better learn the meta quick *yawn*

@Deminese2 27 дней назад

Exactly, none of them offer customization and varied content. That is why Overatch 2 canceling PVE pissed so many people off. It was offering an actual interesting mode with talent trees, choosable skills etc and they couldn't get it to work somehow? The characters and mechanics already work well for these skews but they're doing nothing with them. Give Genji chaining shurikens or Forking when hitting enemies for clearing hordes of mobs, add status ailments, gear, progression. I don't believe they couldn't make it work.

@kephalai 27 дней назад

i thought at this point you'd be able to afford buying your own house instead of having to deal with landlords, JP

@Nosmaclear 26 дней назад

-This gets a Thumbs Up for Zeke's response to a question about whether he would like to waste hours of his life to make someone else some money.

@sumireravenclaw8034 27 дней назад

Unlike worlds, Monster hunter wilds is FULLY open world. Worlds was just very small ish/medium world. kind of like dragonage; I, where it's just semi small maps where this game will be fully open world. probably more along the lines of ME:A, where the semi open world was liek 10x the sie of Dragon age: I

@KillianC1C2 26 дней назад

Bloodborne is like Mad Max Fury Road. A lot of people really fucking love it and will not stop talking about why they love it. They will show the legitimately amazing things it does and flaunt it. However to people that either enjoy in a more leveled way or have no interest in it, the overwhelming level, seemingly impossible level of quality it's been placed on can be off putting to some. So then they go "it's overrated". I love Bloodborne and I think it's one of the best games FromSoft has made, but I don't view it personally as like the pinnacle of all gaming like some do. I feel there's legit issues with the game (not performance wise) that people seem to ignore.

@Dopesaur 26 дней назад

It reminds me a lot of my relationship with Undertale. I remember when that game was a goddamn Phenomenon! Buuuut, I didn't play it then. Hearing people scream from the mountain tops that the game is essentially the second coming of christ, became really grating. So I've no interest in playing it ironically. The people recommending it too forcefully put me off of wanting to try it.

@s14wannab 27 дней назад

Come on buddy

@ericscasny9312 26 дней назад

every time you say "that's early" then say "9 am!" .....i cringe a little bit

@sjaugust1 27 дней назад

I miss battleborn

@GM-xk1nw 22 дня назад

Bloodborne is overrated compared to Elden ring

@VorpalSnak 27 дней назад

Concord is a jet not a 5v5 pvp game. How much did they waste on this?

@Mauvias92 27 дней назад

It's crazy how many people get seppuku and sudoku confused. Sudoku is a Japanese number puzzle lol

@AlyxDerNarr 27 дней назад

It's a colloquialism at this point. It's possible it used to be a genuine mistake, but calling seppuku "sudoku" has been a meme for probably two decades by now.

@timurdos 27 дней назад

people use it because many platforms ban or delete messages about su*cide.

@BlueUltima9999 27 дней назад

VR but for The Sims. Imagine being able to interact with The Sims in VR where you can look down at your people. MONEY! IT'LL PRINT MONEY!!!

@Groove_Gamer 27 дней назад

Gacha game? I'm out, so fn stupid.

@varianngaming9403 27 дней назад

"I feel bad for Devs" while also calling the game dead, you have no idea if it's good or not, the trailer didn't seem like AI in the slightest so I don't know what you're on about there either. I've watched JP a few times watching game trailers and he shits on every one of them.

@JakeRayTM 27 дней назад

He didn't say that, though? 11:00 Are you referring to something else regarding AI?

@Elidan1012 27 дней назад

He said the cast is like an AI generated Guardians of the Galaxy, qouting chat. Which is so on point it is wild. He did not say that the art itself, or the art style looked like AI generated art. This does not make it bad by default of course, but can you seriously not see the similarities? The main dude's mannerism screams Starlord.

@Ayay01 27 дней назад

Sony have a horrible record of giving away your private stuff to hackers so :)

@arolust 27 дней назад

less hero shooter fatigue, and more its just shitty shooter fatigue... im sorry if you like overwatch and others like it, but its not a good shooter. Were tired of all these crappy, water downed, server fee saving, 5v5 crap shoots.

@MegaRamster 27 дней назад

Sony is min-maxing the game industry game.

@Euphamia 26 дней назад

If your not a fan of the switch weapons for blood born then the game just isnet fun to play. I love dark souls games and being abile to choose my play style. You dont get that in blood born. So for me... Blood born isent as good as the dark souls games. Same with that Sekiro, if your not a fan of the parry system well your kind of out of luck. Big difference between blood born and Sekiro is that the blood born style is WAAAAAAAAY better and the world is fantastic. Just wish i liked the gameplay, but i dont.

@michaelsquires1177 27 дней назад

Geoff still hasn't even tweeted about the PlayStation layoffs or London studio getting shut down. PlayStation must've called him and said don't you dare talk about it.

@Takaoshi 26 дней назад

My guess is Sony is going all in on PSN account because of their new overlay for pc games that unlocks trophies etc on pc and makes them run worse xD Poe 2 will have couch co-op on console and pc.

@BlackTone91 26 дней назад

There is no evidence than game with PSN overlay run worse than without

@Takaoshi 26 дней назад

@@BlackTone91 Plenty of people that have deleted the overlay file from Ghost of tsushima and it runs better. Alot of ppl also have gotten crashes everytime they got a trophy. So something with the overlay isn't working properly

@Justin-ee1mv 26 дней назад

LULE USA COPS

@CPGrungebobGaming 27 дней назад

Why is Cohh even bringing up if Xbox will bring up the layoffs when literally Sony didn't say anything during the State of Play after their layoffs and closing 2 studios? This feels stupid to even ask or suggest. 1:55:00