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BATWOMAN 2x05 REVIEW | Just Burn the Whole Thing Down 

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The one where Batwoman asks for her opponents' preferred pronouns before they fight.
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@GlobTheDabGlob
@GlobTheDabGlob 3 года назад
“My pronouns are... Eat Shit.” I fucking died.
@ButcherSevenActual
@ButcherSevenActual 3 года назад
That was fuckin gold 😂
@Hadex79
@Hadex79 3 года назад
That was beautiful.
@Dan-ji4db
@Dan-ji4db 3 года назад
That would make a good bumper sticker actually 😂
@Mr._Matt
@Mr._Matt 3 года назад
Thorias has become something greater.
@spartythespart
@spartythespart 3 года назад
I HAD TO PAUSE THE VIDEO LMAO
@da_ocsta1452
@da_ocsta1452 3 года назад
I remember when the entertainment industry valued success over everything else. It doesn't succeed, it gets ended. Those were the days.
@viscountrainbows6452
@viscountrainbows6452 3 года назад
Stadia won't die. Batwoman won't die. Woke Star Wars won't die. And yet these hacks insist on going into extra innings for a game they are losing. It truly is no longer about the money.
@Angyali
@Angyali 3 года назад
@@viscountrainbows6452 Only if the satanfucking childblood-drinking Hollywood system itself is cleansed of evil.
@Huff-Productions
@Huff-Productions 3 года назад
Ah the good old days, look I can handle some political agenda as long as the whole godamn show isn't about them even when it makes no godamn sense, Ryan was talking about being poor and shit in the pilot because she was black and was a victim of society or some bs but she had been found with fucking drugs and flipped off the crows for doing their job, like wtf and then the whole episode is about Ghost Spider who goes out if his way to remind us constantly that he's gay just to fuck with the audience, they couldn't at least make him look like a normal gay person they had to make him wear skirts and dresses, and then they gotta worship Kate because she's the paragon of amazingness and the best gay person in the world apparently c'mon
@politicallycorrectredskin796
@politicallycorrectredskin796 3 года назад
Yes, but it was never like that in the USSR, which is where we now reside, apparently.
@blacksheep6415
@blacksheep6415 3 года назад
Some of the best classics were canceled but i see your point
@Tronous117
@Tronous117 3 года назад
"My pronouns are eat shit". That's beautiful man
@jasonhowell7601
@jasonhowell7601 3 года назад
Excellent pronouns my friend.
@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085
@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 3 года назад
I work at a corporate grocery store and I used this line. It made a lot of people uncomfortable but due to policy, people were forced to use my new pronoun. In my country these woke policies are legally enforced so if I switch my pronoun to a racial slur for my people then people have to use it. Gender is fluid so I can change my pronouns on a whim.
@jasonhowell7601
@jasonhowell7601 3 года назад
@Cú Chulainn Agreed, soy beta male it seems, anyway best wishes to you my friend.
@kedharswaminathan7571
@kedharswaminathan7571 2 года назад
@@momomomocensoredbyyoutube9085 Absolute legend man.
@CoomanX5
@CoomanX5 3 года назад
This is what happens when you have a revolving door writing team. Shit won’t make sense. Writer from episode 1: no one cares that the dope weren’t mine, the crows were dirty or I’m a decent human being. Writer from Episode 3: I run in the same circle as Victor Fuckin' Zsaz Writer from Episode 5: I had drugs in my damn purse, a crow showed empathy for me and I flipped him off showing the drugs I possessed.
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 3 года назад
Many shows have many writers per episode. The problem is there is, apparently, a lack of a show tunner that actually gives a damn. The show runner should give guidelines to the writers and work closely with them to avoid plot holes and redundancy. To clarify: I don't mean many writers per episode as I wrote, I meant many writers per season, sometimes a new writer every episode. This is very common in Hollywood. Just pick a random writer on IMDB and check their history.
@nvfury13
@nvfury13 3 года назад
Episode 8: So I was dealing drugs to Junior High kids for years, just as a side hustle. Not like I was ever a criminal.
@Vamp19vv
@Vamp19vv 3 года назад
I think they need a continuity editor since noone seems to know what's going on.
@hassathunter2464
@hassathunter2464 3 года назад
Episode 10: Sure, I killed some kids, some other people, few cops... but did I mention I am a victim?
@nvfury13
@nvfury13 3 года назад
@@hassathunter2464 Episode 12: Yeah, I ate a live baby, but it was a White baby! So it was fine!
@Robo-Hector
@Robo-Hector 3 года назад
"These drugs aren't mine. I was holding them for a friend." Man if judges and cops had a nickel for every time they heard that excuse from criminals. Lol these stupid writers couldn't even come up with a better story than that?
@michaeldiekmann6494
@michaeldiekmann6494 3 года назад
Better writers are writing better shows
@vocesdelrioriourbano7236
@vocesdelrioriourbano7236 3 года назад
Remember when entertainment was fun and television was a way to relax after work...I remember...I must be old.
@markusp1699
@markusp1699 3 года назад
Insert [Pepperidge Farm Remembers] Meme.
@Montanakid1988
@Montanakid1988 3 года назад
We call those days the 90’s
@omnianimator8468
@omnianimator8468 3 года назад
Remember when we were three and we couldn't understand what dumb stuff were.
@Lennox1224
@Lennox1224 3 года назад
@@omnianimator8468 No, nobody remembers being 3.
@omnianimator8468
@omnianimator8468 3 года назад
Yeah.
@S4ns
@S4ns 3 года назад
So Kate was sooooooo amazing that even closeted gay men are attracted to her? My god, the writers have no idea what they are doing, do they?
@gameraider100
@gameraider100 3 года назад
From what it sounds like, this CW's Evan calls himself "gay" ONLY BECAUSE he wants to be considered a girl hence the crossdressing and flirting with the other girl characters. *So ... hilariously he's STRAIGHT, but doesn't wanna say so, for all we know he has hetero-guilt* 😂
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
Why...no. Nor will they ever, if the money keeps flowing. Until it runs out, they don't have to care.
@EsoiTheGrumpyMawile
@EsoiTheGrumpyMawile 3 года назад
@@gameraider100 so this show cant even get being gay right can they, the writers really don't deserve any praise at all if they cant even woke correctly.
@sarasunshinemt4444
@sarasunshinemt4444 3 года назад
To be fair, Kate looks like a 13 year old boy.
@falsealias2046
@falsealias2046 3 года назад
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Kate Kane dismantled a Metal GEAR with her bare hands and shits 24 karat gold nuggets at this point. The amount of love and worship she gets from the writers and cast are reaching north Korean levels of irrationality
@grantpflum6844
@grantpflum6844 3 года назад
Which, considering how the actress left the show, is so confusing.
@Vyktym76
@Vyktym76 3 года назад
It's modern day CW/Leftwing media. Everybody's gay, they just don't know it yet. :)
@grantpflum6844
@grantpflum6844 3 года назад
@@Vyktym76 😭🤢🤦‍♂️🤷‍♀️
@walterwhite8649
@walterwhite8649 3 года назад
Probably it is Kim Jon Un who writes the show
@inediblegrobb7524
@inediblegrobb7524 3 года назад
Kate Kane is Caroline Dries self-insert, that is why the show pushes the Kate worship so hard. This whole show exists to push woke bullshit, and stroke Caroline Dries ego as much as it possibly can.
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 3 года назад
ones things for sure, if they keep it up im sure RUby rose wouldn't want to come back they act like a stalker ex
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
@@wolftitanreading5308 I think theyre praying/hoping/predicting that Ruby Rose's acting is so bad, that she eventually will come crawling back to the show after no one else wants her; kinda like an abusive spouse /drug seller hoping that the effects of domestic abuse Stockholm Syndrome / hopeless addict failing to quit and craving the fix will come back lol
@Radley1982
@Radley1982 3 года назад
@@budgiecat9039 Hey, Disney did the same thing to Daisy Ridley, so I wouldn't be surprised if the CW tried the same with Ruby Rose. Just shows how modern studios operate these days.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
@@Radley1982 I heard about that. I think Daisy is trying to crawl back to Disney due to no work possibly due to Disney blacklisting her. Maybe she's praying Kennedy gets fired or leaves before she comes back since this is Kathleen's final year on contract because I know she cant stand her.
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
@@budgiecat9039 Ridley is hardly one of my favorite people, but she's not nearly as bad as Darth Insidious, Kathleen Kraperty herself.
@tgcme1
@tgcme1 3 года назад
random person: “hey. do you watch Batwoman?” Me: 🤔 “Well....I watch Thorias.....so....yes?🤷🏻‍♀️”
@blaineprentice3128
@blaineprentice3128 3 года назад
Lol the random person might as well have asked "hey, are you a moron?" Because anyone who actively watches this is most likely just that.
@isplat927
@isplat927 3 года назад
@@blaineprentice3128 I mean, I watch the show but that's only so I can yell at it and comment on multiple issues
@blaineprentice3128
@blaineprentice3128 3 года назад
@@isplat927 Yeah, I get that. I was more commenting on anyone who thinks this show isn't absolute garbage.
@DaveMan1K
@DaveMan1K 3 года назад
Twitterer: "Hey you watch Batwoman?" Me: "No. Do you?" Twitterer: "YOU RACIST BIGOT! YOU NEED TO WATCH BATWOMAN! IT EMPOWERS WOMEN! IT SPEAKS THE TRUTH! IT WILL CHANGE THIS BROKEN WORLD!!!" Me: "What's the name of the main character?" Twitterer: "I DON'T CARE! I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WATCH IT! I HAVE TO EDUCATE PRIVILEGED WHITES LIKE YOU TO BE RESPECTFUL!!!" Me: "You know, it's common sense to know what you're preaching before you preach it."
@randomperson-up5vt
@randomperson-up5vt 3 года назад
I watch it through efap, heelsvsbabyface, and J longbone.
@cttommy73
@cttommy73 3 года назад
Framed, "Getting blamed for something someone else did - Being at the wrong place at the wrong time". This is the definition provided by urban dictionary. Set up, "A fabricated scenario that is not what it is intended to appear as ". Also by urban dictionary. Here's the thing, Ryan fails to meet either criteria to say that the law framed her for something she did not do. She DID have drugs, were part of criminal circles, ran with them, in fact. From what Thorias said earlier based on his review, she also did jobs for criminals, and knew of many crimes that were happening, but didn't report them. Best example would be with the candy lady. Long story short, she is a criminal at worst, or an accomplice at best. Either way, she has no grounds to talk down to anyone. Neither does the Batwoman writers, for writing her into such a character.
@S4ns
@S4ns 3 года назад
Ryan admitted to being a getaway driver for her junkie girlfriend. That's not "being framed", that's being an active participant in a crime. This show is beyond stupid in it's attempt to paint Ryan as some kind of victim.
@Huff-Productions
@Huff-Productions 3 года назад
Hold on hold on, Ryan is gay and black, so she obviously can't be a criminal and is obviously a victim right?......right???
@Radley1982
@Radley1982 3 года назад
@@Huff-Productions That's definitely the writers' logic, I admit.
@stormryder4305
@stormryder4305 3 года назад
The writer, Caroline Dries, herself is a #BLM activist who support illegal riots, burning shops, harrassing drivers and nearby diners, etc... It mirrors through her Batwahman character. This is what we get from a person who thought having gray morality is interesting, and has no regards about honor, the Bat family stands for. Shitty writers should be thrown to rubbish bins.
@charliegareginyan9584
@charliegareginyan9584 3 года назад
@@stormryder4305 this isn't even Grey Morality, it's just a shallow caricature of le evul uthorities/desperate criminals... something that The Joker (2019) did so much better despite that not being the focus.
@Hadex79
@Hadex79 3 года назад
At this point would anyone be surprised if they had Mary flagellating herself before a shrine to Kate and praying for her blessing?
@James_Bee
@James_Bee 3 года назад
Not gonna lie, I had to look that one up and, yeah. I could see that happening in this show... including her becoming aroused by it.
@SteveSmith-ty8ko
@SteveSmith-ty8ko 3 года назад
Flagellating herself would be pretty kinky to see Mary doing, I HAVE to get this to the writer’s room!
@Huff-Productions
@Huff-Productions 3 года назад
My g you just leaked the next episode
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
Well, Mary already built the shrine, so...
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
"Have you accepted Kate Kane as your lord and saviour?"
@spacedoyster7686
@spacedoyster7686 3 года назад
Gotta love how Luke figured out the canvas for Jack Napier's painting was over a map to Koreana after scanning a counterfeit.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
The power of plot.
@aurahoneydew9607
@aurahoneydew9607 3 года назад
Close but the maximum cringe is still the time felicity and her mom were kidnapped and they escaped because felicity hacked into the smartphones of the goons holding them it blowing up with enough force to knock them across the room.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@aurahoneydew9607 how about the fact she hacked a drone with a tablet?
@CJ-kg7yq
@CJ-kg7yq 3 года назад
@@aurahoneydew9607 Spaced's one was worse, the phones were there at the very least
@lostsoul4784
@lostsoul4784 3 года назад
Alice is supposed to be the Villain, but she’s actually more human than about everyone in this “SHOW”
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
That’s messed up and I’m positive entirely unintentional.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
So it's pulled a Wonder Woman 1984 where the 2 supposed villains are unintentionally more sympathetic than the hero.
@zerofudou5689
@zerofudou5689 3 года назад
@@Xehanort10 Shouldn't it be that Wonder Woman 1984 pulled a Batwoman because season 1 was out before Wonder Woman 1984's release?
@theresidentteacher2438
@theresidentteacher2438 3 года назад
I keep saying: YOU AND JLONGBONE NEED TO COLLAB ON THESE SOMETIMES. The two of you would be a real DYNAMIC DUO.
@vadandrumist1670
@vadandrumist1670 3 года назад
If I remember correctly, they did a collab on HeelvsBabyface channel with Every Frame A Pause.
@markrobinson9394
@markrobinson9394 3 года назад
@@vadandrumist1670 And it was glorious.
@keithrecord1910
@keithrecord1910 3 года назад
That does sound hilarious. I thank both of them for reviewing this garbage so I don't have to watch it.
@dodojesus4529
@dodojesus4529 3 года назад
Thorias's screaming overlaid with longbones cackles
@reginaphalange9417
@reginaphalange9417 3 года назад
The EFAP are really funny too
@matman329
@matman329 3 года назад
Yes, as a gay man, i know when every dress was made and i like to wear dresses when every i can, stupid ass patronizing show. And as a show with a lesbian lead they really leaned into the gay stereotypes.😑
@Mysikrysa
@Mysikrysa 3 года назад
This "progressive" show is full of stereotypes.
@makisky4495
@makisky4495 3 года назад
Im gay and i know fuck all about fashion. 🤔 lol
@matman329
@matman329 3 года назад
@@makisky4495 same
@patrickmcgavin3441
@patrickmcgavin3441 3 года назад
Bull shit! if Safiyah erased alice's memory alice wouldn't remember everything that happened to her when she was a little girl. from before the accident and after being held prisoner by mouses dad. These writers have zero concept of what continuity means it gets worse every episode.
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
Your Preaching to the choir! My best guess is this whole Memory stealing power is the writers failed attempt to get people to care about Safiyah since she's supposed to be the big bad of the season
@Payload82
@Payload82 3 года назад
I think its the selective kind of memory where they make up as they go
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@Payload82 so just CW writing in general?
@Payload82
@Payload82 3 года назад
@@thomasraines1396 yeah that sums up the CW
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@Payload82 but this is the worst case of it.
@santirank
@santirank 3 года назад
Saint Thorias! He suffers for us watching this show so we don't have to.
@tonycleek4981
@tonycleek4981 3 года назад
I think at this point the name of show should be changed to “We Worship Saint Kate Cane.” They made Kate the issue of this season instead of making it about Ryan. It makes you wonder if Ryan is really that interesting as they were advertising her to be. This show now wants us to believe Kate was this paragon of awesomeness that we never see. This show just makes me laugh how they try to tell these amazing stories of Kate that don’t her character from season one. I made the point before they don’t know how to write their gay black lead because she doesn’t ever seemed like the victim because she has to be strong all the time. These writers tried to make Ryan seemed the wild and hard to work with but everything the setup in the first episode has been totally fixed. She doesn’t live in her van and the plant relationship was over now. She isn’t poor anymore. She will soon have everything that Kate did. On a funny note, I can’t wait to find out that Alice’s backstory will included her curing cancer, feeding the children of Africa, the time she went to space and how she took a small country because the plot says she did. It is weird that they have to sideline their main bad person because we know that Ryan wouldn’t let Alice off as much as Kate would. These writers surely don’t know what to do with Alice or Jacob because their development has been crap this season.
@shadowpathfinder7723
@shadowpathfinder7723 3 года назад
Wasn't Kate Kane literally a paragon in the multiple worlds crossover thing they did? XD
@Huff-Productions
@Huff-Productions 3 года назад
Of course Ryan isn't as interesting as they market her, the only things going for her is that her life is crap by her own doing and she's a black Batwoman
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@shadowpathfinder7723 yes and it was completely pointless only serving to make it seem like Kane actually mattered. The “Paragon” thing was complete and utter nonsense excluding that.
@wolftitanreading5308
@wolftitanreading5308 3 года назад
Honestly at this point the show is just ruby rose stalker, and she might not want to come back I mean i could understand having some hero worship it ruby was around like 5 seasons or something than replaced her but this is insane.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
Next thing you know the show will pull out some Jesus symbolism with Kate like Snyder did with Superman in Man of Steel and with Jared Leto's Joker in his cut of Justice League.
@mememe4188
@mememe4188 3 года назад
Breaking News: This show has officially fallen behind 500k views.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 3 года назад
And yet they went ahead and renewed it for Season 3 because the answer to an obviously failing show whose only viewers are those who mock and ridicule it is to double, triple, and quadruple down because Batwoman cannot under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES be allowed to fail.
@jasonhowell7601
@jasonhowell7601 3 года назад
@@Webshooters1 I couldn't agree with you about that more my friend...best to you.
@robinthrush9672
@robinthrush9672 3 года назад
@@Webshooters1 Well, jlongbone reacted to a guy sincerely loving the kidnapping episode for how powerful and important it is. So there is a contingent of "it has my politics, so it's good" group that likes it. Not because it's written well, even he admits problems in it, but just 'cause positive bigotry is good.
@Neillan
@Neillan 3 года назад
It had that many? When?
@politicallycorrectredskin796
@politicallycorrectredskin796 3 года назад
I can't believe it has even that many. It's scary! There are half a million human vegetables who like this shit.
@benp23
@benp23 3 года назад
Exactly what Season 2 needed: more focus on sexual preference. Honestly, these reviews are a million times more entertaining than the show ever could be. 👏
@kenmck7802
@kenmck7802 3 года назад
This isn't GOTHAM, it's GAYTHOM. Maybe THAT'S the show they should be making. it would be more HONEST.
@BoingBB
@BoingBB 3 года назад
I wonder what the ratio of straight v gay is on the writing team?
@mr.vargas5648
@mr.vargas5648 3 года назад
Yep its a distorted timeline.
@Hadex79
@Hadex79 3 года назад
@King Slayer They probably view it as the most evil thing about her.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
@King Slayer the shows so gay, Kate literally turned a boy who had a crush on her Gay with her Gay powers lool
@aspiringjoker2883
@aspiringjoker2883 3 года назад
Speaking of Gotham, that was a good show until the fifth season. We need a sixth one where Jerome completes his apotheosis.
@vetrais7965
@vetrais7965 3 года назад
I literally screamed "ARE YOU KIDDING ME" at the ACAB scene.
@evenhartwick4422
@evenhartwick4422 3 года назад
this is a show that literally has Rachel Maddow in it are you really surprised theres an ACAB reference in it?
@isplat927
@isplat927 3 года назад
I didn't even see that, I was still focusing on that stupid emoji thing that Wolf-Spider did with the electrical tower in the very beginning before we pan to Jacob.
@AgntFL
@AgntFL 3 года назад
So I guess the crows have even worse aim than stormtroopers
@makisky4495
@makisky4495 3 года назад
🤣 Dam you
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
I think even stormtroopers are better than the Crows.
@schwarzerritter5724
@schwarzerritter5724 3 года назад
Most of the time, Stormtroopers were under order to let the Rebels win.
@Webshooters1
@Webshooters1 3 года назад
I feel we need to re-title this show to "The Kate Kane Worship Hour" because even though it's only 22 minutes, by the time the episode's over it will FEEL like an hour.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
The crows are whatever the plot needs them to be.
@MKL3165
@MKL3165 3 года назад
Thank you for your sacrifice soldier
@nobody2996
@nobody2996 3 года назад
Notice that Angelic doesn't need to do anything to be forgiven by Ryan, but the Crows are damned for arresting Ryan despite the fact that Angelic is the one who could have cleared things up while the Crows had no reason to think Ryan wasn't breaking the law. To be fair, I can see why Ryan is pissed about Zippy's injuries. He was a criminal, yes, but he was only a thief, running away and presenting no threat to anybody, so hitting him with a car is definitely considered excessive force. The show needs to pick a damn side: Are the Crows a private security group that serves the highest bidder or are they a replacement for the police who respond to anyone breaking the law? And of course, without Kate here to whine that Alice is totally still savable, we need to give her a random love interest.
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
The reason why Angelic was easily forgive is because she's gay, this show will never make a gay person in the wrong no matter what they do. I agree that it was wrong what the crows did to Zippy but its still wrong for Batwoman not to put him in jail. He was doing plenty of illegal stuff and if he only stole the painting to help Kate he could have just sold it to Jacob. If the writers want to keep putting their gay characters in a positive light they should try actually writing better character for us to care about and sympathies with
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
The Crows are whatever the writers want them to be. That's why it seems to change almost every week.
@yamadiyoo9658
@yamadiyoo9658 3 года назад
Tbh, I don't see the Crows being too bad that they have all this power, it makes them seem like a dumber OCP(Omni Consumer Products) from RoboCop and how they pretty much took control of the policing from the city cops, as long as the Crow's don't make GayRoboCop and give him to GCP to fight alone with batwoman its everything is okay. As the last thing this show needs is to drag Murphy into this.
@isplat927
@isplat927 3 года назад
I'm still not convinced that the Crows are corrupt, like only 2 people in the Crows were actually corrupt, the two Crows that sidelined Evan is excessive force at best.
@yamadiyoo9658
@yamadiyoo9658 3 года назад
@@isplat927 Well if you want to know the one that missed with the tazer that jammed was black and the guy that side swapped wolfspider was white and the black one said they should get help and why he did that, until he caved when the other crow said lets get out of here with the painting.
@SpaceandGoats
@SpaceandGoats 3 года назад
This show is so awful. You're doing God's work by reviewing it
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
He's also doing GOd's work by damning it to Hell. It's where the show belongs.
@MikeyMikeHq
@MikeyMikeHq 3 года назад
I honestly agree. It's hilarious. Great entertainment
@TheShelby313
@TheShelby313 3 года назад
You made a good point. Where is Gordon. He’s the one of the few clean cops in the city and actually does his job right. I guess they didn’t want a competent male that works in the law
@dtm_666
@dtm_666 3 года назад
They'd probably find a way to ruin Gordon, too. If they haven't already...
@Payload82
@Payload82 3 года назад
most likely they aren't allowed to use him or Barbara Gordon but know the writers barbara would worship Kate Kane batwoman and hate her father for not doing to stop all the racist cops in GCPD and allow the crows to be formered and everly things bad that happened in Gotham
@TheShelby313
@TheShelby313 3 года назад
Everybody is making good, and yet depressing, points
@simonhurt9666
@simonhurt9666 3 года назад
@@TheShelby313 Gordon: “Hey Batman?” Batman:”Yeah?” Gordon:”What exactly happened when you last encountered the joker.” Batman: “Simple yet tragic Jim. He was dying from the titan disease and when he fell from this mortal coil due to his condition I buried him personally, out of respect.” Gordon: “I thought the titan disease was in the Arkham verse.” Batman: “Hey, if Batwoman the series can do whatever it wants, so can I. Wanna go get coffee?” Gordon: “Heck yeah.”
@AdonanS
@AdonanS 3 года назад
I knew Rian would be as bad as Kate when I realized the person in the suit has changed, but the writers didn't.
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
Nor the person directing this Carnival of Crap, Callous Dryheave.
@randomdragononthestreet8943
@randomdragononthestreet8943 3 года назад
OMG!!! “My pronouns are, ‘Eat Shit!’” I fell out of my chair laughing... Love your reviews man!
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
I didn't even intend for that to be funny.
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
I love watching Thorias and HeelvsBabyface review Batwoman! Does this make me a sadist?
@kreese-yi2nb
@kreese-yi2nb 3 года назад
We all have it in us, alright.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 3 года назад
No, a masochist
@jonharper4478
@jonharper4478 3 года назад
No. It makes them Masochists. But it keeps us entertained.
@Marlena_M
@Marlena_M 3 года назад
Don't forget JLongbone! Her reviews and subtle editing is top notch!
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
@@Marlena_M Oh yeah I love her reviews too, I just didn't mention her because unlike Heels & Thorias she actually gets a good laugh out of this trash show and doesn't look like she's losing her sanity. (EFAP also does good reviews to)
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
The only way in Hell that season 3 would get any viewers is if they fire Caroline Dries and replace her entire "Writing staff". Ok sure their would be no guarantee the new writers could save the show BUT I can guarantee that thousands more people would watch the new season or at least the premier just to spite Caroline and her cronies!
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
The "writing process" for this show is probably just Dries slamming the writers heads into their keyboards and putting whatever mess of letters is on the screen into the script.
@Payload82
@Payload82 3 года назад
at this point I think you need to do a full reboot just keep Ryan Wilder as the new Batwoman and have an old Bruce Wayne played by Kevin Conroy be her mentor.
@isplat927
@isplat927 3 года назад
@@Payload82 Just make a Huntress show, with Helena Wayne taking up the mantle (sort of) after Bruce retires, kinda like Batman Beyond except Helena was Bruce's Robin and that would explain her training.
@Tengokuchi
@Tengokuchi 3 года назад
I feel like they're just deifying Kate so much so when they inevitably admit she's dead they won't get harassed on Twitter.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
the funny thing is they think Twitter actually cares. Even woke Twitter has abandoned this show
@Tengokuchi
@Tengokuchi 3 года назад
@@budgiecat9039 Twitter cares when there's something to be outraged about.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
@@Tengokuchi but its fake outrage we know that. But they have to actually be interested in the subject first to care to be outraged by it lol. Thats just it: I think even Twitter has gotten bored of this show. No one watches it except a small handful of fans, and the reviewers who cant stand it but review it for our entertainment like Thorias, Az, Nerdrotic (sporatically?) and that other RU-vidr I forget her name that roasts it as well. I do agree though that Caroline prob did this to both self insert and as a preemptive means to make sure the 'fans' didnt try to cancel her for burying a gay. But as we see this was a fruitless endeavor because no one cares
@wrybreadspread
@wrybreadspread 3 года назад
It's a "Plan 9 From Gotham City". Ed Wood sees from the next world and feels affirmed.
@RJStheFourthAge
@RJStheFourthAge 3 года назад
28:15 "The Writer look so completely divorced from reality, so utterly clueless about how real human beings actually behave that you have to wonder how they even function in normal society." So just the same as the current comic writers for Marvel & DC comics.
@simonhurt9666
@simonhurt9666 2 года назад
I don’t think they’re even allowed in society
@evilmasterstudios
@evilmasterstudios 3 года назад
13:16 - To be fair, If I were on Batwoman I’d eat a Cyanide capsule too.
@tassothomas5186
@tassothomas5186 3 года назад
Is literally every woman on this show gay? That is statistically impossible, even in a fictional universe smh
@Huff-Productions
@Huff-Productions 3 года назад
Not Alice but she's insane ofc. yeah I get you writers
@cameronclophus7998
@cameronclophus7998 3 года назад
Think Mary and Alice are the only straight ones.
@chrispy3369
@chrispy3369 3 года назад
Almost like 13 reasons why, where every male except 2 has came out or slept with another guy.
@tassothomas5186
@tassothomas5186 3 года назад
@@chrispy3369 I wouldn't know, I stopped watching after 13 RW after Season 1. Season 2 was so boring😪
@christianmarrero5196
@christianmarrero5196 3 года назад
Ofc not every woman is gay on this show!! The others are Bi
@andrewconrad2859
@andrewconrad2859 3 года назад
This show honestly sounds openly hostile to gay people.
@latviandragon2718
@latviandragon2718 3 года назад
yeah and it also pretends that bisexuals dont exist
@imyoursuperbeast8220
@imyoursuperbeast8220 3 года назад
Sounds like everybody on this show is gay. Hell, the batsuit has gaydar all of sudden since it just seems to end up in the hands of lesbians
@stormryder4305
@stormryder4305 3 года назад
Or sounds mockery.
@quantumdynamite7112
@quantumdynamite7112 3 года назад
@@imyoursuperbeast8220 I mean let's be the honest. They make all the men emasculated too for a reason, to shoehorn to us how hard it is to get pussy.
@Thebigbad1013
@Thebigbad1013 3 года назад
This is what happens when people think that being a victim is somehow "cool". By the sounds of it (haven't actually watched the show) Ryan has got to be one of the worst protagonists ever. What reason could anyone possibly have to like her at this point?
@TheKpa11
@TheKpa11 3 года назад
You ever consider that if the CW is just making “troll” content that the bosses and higher ups are simply looking to jump ship with whatever they got in their pockets from milking the CW, because they figure the channel will just go under eventually? Cause if ratings, quality, and budget did mean something wouldn’t the assumption be that CW is on the line of bankruptcy or something?
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
Sadly, the CW will have to go through a LOT more of its backers money before it sinks like the Titanic. People who bankroll nonsense like this don't seem to mind setting their money on fire to a point if the right "Narrative" is serviced.
@generationclash5004
@generationclash5004 3 года назад
The one dislike is from Caroline Dreiss. I don't even care if I misspelled her last name.
@Grimplays185
@Grimplays185 3 года назад
I woke up less than 4 minutes and you posted your Batwoman review PERFECT
@12floz67
@12floz67 3 года назад
These reviews of this show are the best. I’m curious to how bad the ratings were for this episode. Thanks for the laughs.🍻
@theworldaccordingtotruth4109
@theworldaccordingtotruth4109 3 года назад
Oh believe me you will likely find out soon. If AZ from HeelVsBabyface makes the inevitable video about it. Which he is sure to do.
@bluedepths9483
@bluedepths9483 3 года назад
@@theworldaccordingtotruth4109 he already did, it was 507k last week and only dropped to 504 or 505k..
@FujimoraPantsu2
@FujimoraPantsu2 3 года назад
@@bluedepths9483 I mean when your show is a national broadcast, in prime time, during a lockdown where people only have their tv for company, that 504-505k (the population of like a couple medium sized towns) can't get a whole lot lower. Pretty sure channels that went off air late night and just had static back in the day were putting up those kindsa numbers.
@bluedepths9483
@bluedepths9483 3 года назад
@@FujimoraPantsu2 yep, and it’s already been renewed for season 3 🤷🏻‍♂️ makes no sense..
@walterwhite8649
@walterwhite8649 3 года назад
Batwoman is one of the best(worst) shows I haven’t watched
@jasonhowell7601
@jasonhowell7601 3 года назад
Well said
@quazirej1998
@quazirej1998 3 года назад
That's why I love it so much. Once the writing ever gets better, this show is just be like every other superhero comic book based show out there.
@walterwhite8649
@walterwhite8649 3 года назад
@@quazirej1998 I just falled in love with the writing, probably the best writing I have ever seen
@rambu3013
@rambu3013 3 года назад
And will not
@Vato-Psyko-Loko
@Vato-Psyko-Loko 3 года назад
You have to watch it. It is Showgirls bad. I love Showgirls.
@cathulionetharn5139
@cathulionetharn5139 3 года назад
30 minutes of "quick" torture quality I enjoy
@kazekamiha
@kazekamiha 3 года назад
Season 2: The Kate Kane Show That Lacks Kate Kane.
@Profess84
@Profess84 3 года назад
I saw your thumbnail, and I was laughing.
@chadlynch1551
@chadlynch1551 3 года назад
Future historians will use videos like this to detail exactly how social justice/woke cultists degraded entertainment and the culture as a whole. I know it's painful, but you're doing the Lord's work. It's also funny in its own sick way.
@geardog24
@geardog24 3 года назад
I really hope they don't kill off Ocean, we need some men who aren't cartoon evil or completely useless.
@m626m
@m626m 3 года назад
19:34 That scene was so bad. There was one guard just shooting at the ground and another guard was given no direction at all twirling around aimlessly. Also, Ryan's decision to go the illegal auction was dumb. If Sophie was doing surveillance, Ryan would have been busted for being Batwoman. The writing continues to not disappoint with their awfulness and the .493 viewership number for the week confirms it.
@m626m
@m626m 3 года назад
@Gentleman Murk Sad to see Berlanti and Co. given many opportunities and they just produce failure after failure. They should be kicked out the business.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 3 года назад
@@m626m don’t kick them, it’s truly a marvel to witness such sheer ineptitude as they convince themselves the schlock they churn is actually good.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
I laughed my ass off at the guard twirling around. Dude didn't even know what he was supposed to be looking at. And they seriously didn't think to do another take? Good grief...
@yamadiyoo9658
@yamadiyoo9658 3 года назад
Well ofc she when as herself and then told Wolfspider and possibly her girlfriend she was batwoman. Because instead of saying its one of Kate's Batarangs when asked, she said its the new batwoman's batarang because when you go to an illegal auction you tell them that you are a gay black woman that has a gay black woman superhero's weapon and not the gay white woman superhero's weapon. I'm sure they wouldn't turned her down for having one of the older batarangs that might become a collector's item for all they know over the current ones in use. It also doesn't help that her girlfriend couldn't find her after batwoman showed up and the chaos that happened with security when wolfspider showed up.
@sherwoodsoundstudios
@sherwoodsoundstudios 3 года назад
"I am in no mood..." Oh, you're in a massive mood. 😄
@ultra6671
@ultra6671 3 года назад
Thorias: *mentions the term ACAB two minutes in* Me, doing my best Scott Bakula impression: Oh boy.
@zhv3062
@zhv3062 3 года назад
I dunno what it is but I like watching these MORE than watching the actual show. You do a great job at this. real glad you take the time to torture yourself for our amusement. Thanks man.
@budgiecat9039
@budgiecat9039 3 года назад
"Caroline Dries, gonna put some dirt in your eyes...gonna cry?" - *Bully McGuire rhyming while dancing*
@tomwills5231
@tomwills5231 3 года назад
Just when you thought they could learn from their mistakes from last season, they arriving with this...
@haku8135
@haku8135 3 года назад
They don't consider them mistakes. They consider them "diverse".
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 3 года назад
6:45 I thought you had slipped into sampling a fanfic!! XD
@gravenwolf6535
@gravenwolf6535 3 года назад
Between you and HeelvsBabyFace I don't know which one will lose their sanity by the time you two reached the season finale. That is, IF you do get to the season finale. D
@patrickmcguire7896
@patrickmcguire7896 3 года назад
my money's on HellsvsBabyFace
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
Probably me. Az has a lot more subs and that ad revenue is pretty good at warding off mental deterioration.
@danjager6200
@danjager6200 3 года назад
Have the writers ever met or talked to a gay person? Also, not all or even most gays are cross dressers. The reverse is also a thing. Ed Wood liked girls and also their clothes.
@1977dajmo
@1977dajmo 3 года назад
In the weirdo fringe circles in which these elitist writers run, my guess is that all their pet gays DO dress like this. If they've left the New York/California bubble even once in their lives, I'll be SHOCKED.
@danjager6200
@danjager6200 3 года назад
@@1977dajmo I can't counter that point.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
Judging by how they portray Ryan they haven't talked to any black people either.
@danjager6200
@danjager6200 3 года назад
@@Xehanort10 True, she's just a bunch of negative stereotypes all jumbled together. She's almost a parody in how distorted she is. At least Superman and Lois is starting off with a good first step.
@georgeaitken2719
@georgeaitken2719 3 года назад
Everything about this show is criminal the writing the acting and the production values
@icanwearamasktoo.1066
@icanwearamasktoo.1066 3 года назад
I'm starting to think the show runners watch your reviews and are trying to drive you insane out of spite😂😎
@actioncom2748
@actioncom2748 3 года назад
How stupid do you have to be to flip off the cops while you're in possession of drugs?
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
Enough to blame them for arresting you so... pretty damn stupid.
@actioncom2748
@actioncom2748 3 года назад
@@thoriasunlimited4053 Maybe Season 3 will reveal she was actually mooning them at the time.
@Radley1982
@Radley1982 3 года назад
As Thorias said, *very* stupid. Which, unfortunately, describes a lot of people these days. They think they can disrespect the police and suffer no consequences, especially POCs who cry racism and police brutality every time they get arrested. So it's no surprise Ryan got arrested.
@actioncom2748
@actioncom2748 3 года назад
@@Radley1982 Here's a real life instance of someone flpping off the cops and its aftermath. While I support the right to flip them off, I also know that the cops have options that regular people don't. And someone carrying drugs should know that too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lgqm3vY7nh0.html
@angbandsbane
@angbandsbane 3 года назад
With all the worship of Kate Cain, I half expect them to start a "Brotherhood of Nod" style cult for *this* Cain. "In the name of Kate!" "Kate lives in death!" "In the name of Kate!" : "KATE! LIVES!"
@dariussatius1621
@dariussatius1621 3 года назад
I don't watch the show, but I hope it goes on forever so you can do these awesome and funny videos for as long as possible.Thank you for the laughter man
@ryancolvert6918
@ryancolvert6918 3 года назад
I wonder if watching a never ending run of this series for eternity would be a possible contender for the new circle of Hell.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 года назад
7:16 So now Kate's being portrayed as supposedly so hot she temporarily turned a gay man straight then when he saw how she looked he came out of the closet and admitted he was gay?
@donovanblackwelder4301
@donovanblackwelder4301 3 года назад
Sure
@ThePrice265
@ThePrice265 3 года назад
What????💩💩💩💩💩💩
@donovanblackwelder4301
@donovanblackwelder4301 3 года назад
@@ThePrice265 idk
@williamcronshaw5262
@williamcronshaw5262 3 года назад
Ruby Rose looks like a 12 year old boy. I'm just saying.
@gameraider100
@gameraider100 3 года назад
To me it sounds like, the Zipline Guy is very much *straight* but has hetero-guilt due to his Kate worship so in order to be worthy in her eyes he dresses like a "girl" and calls himself one. 😅 *The Ultimate SIMP*
@Grudgebearer4life
@Grudgebearer4life 3 года назад
I’m so grateful you sit through the torture so we don’t have to!! Thanks for taking the pain and frustration!!! I miss good comics and superheroes!!!
@cartucho9658
@cartucho9658 3 года назад
What will end sooner? Batwhaman or the mental sanity of Thorias?
@durantes
@durantes 3 года назад
Damn. Those’re my pronouns too! So many people actually use them too. What a progressive society we are
@johnniewoodard648
@johnniewoodard648 3 года назад
you know, after a certain point, you have to start thinking that the producers and writers of batwoman are purposely trolling the youtubers reviewing this show..
@miyoko_17
@miyoko_17 3 года назад
I need you & Jlongbone on an EFAP Batwoman episode reaction...I just need this 😂 (Yes, I know J has been on EFAPs before)
@unknownsoldier912
@unknownsoldier912 3 года назад
You trip me out bro. I hit that subscribe and alert ALL.
@jeremymnemonic5226
@jeremymnemonic5226 3 года назад
I watch you, Heelvsbabyface and JLongbone when it comes to these reviews. Thank you for watching so we don’t have too!
@Amazingsloth
@Amazingsloth 3 года назад
'sudden and inevitable betrayal'.. I see what you did there! nice
@OrthwormJEB
@OrthwormJEB 3 года назад
Kudos for keeping up with this trainwreck of a show. You along with many other YTers are doing us a favor for the sake of your sanity(s).
@BOND19951
@BOND19951 3 года назад
In another few months from now, many will apologize to the late Joel Schumacher after realizing that he did NOT create the worst batman live adaptation ever when he made Batman and Robin 1997. It takes a special type of stupid to make something like Batman and Robin 1997 look an oscar winning masterpiece in comparison. Congrats CW.
@masterace1677
@masterace1677 3 года назад
Last time I remember it seemed Sophie was fine with Julia. / if the gay dude wore Kate’s clothes, then he probably wore leather jacket boy jeans and black boots.
@hassathunter2464
@hassathunter2464 3 года назад
And Kate with every lesbian she looked at.
@thoriasunlimited4053
@thoriasunlimited4053 3 года назад
Yeah, that made no sense. This guy likes to wear a skirt, but Kate dressed all butch. Him wearing her clothes implied that Kate dressed like a girl, which she never did.
@taffywoolback5399
@taffywoolback5399 3 года назад
Keep up the good 😌 work Thorias, your review actually reminds of some of the things my mind forgets about after watching the show 😉
@yamadiyoo9658
@yamadiyoo9658 3 года назад
One thing that is funny about the end is how Ryan basically told them that she is leading the team at the end so listen to her, while at the same time having zero leverage outside of being able to fight in a billion dollar super suit. What I mean is that her job and home is given to her by Mary and were the property of Kate, Luke allows her to be Batwoman and use the gear and produces more parts if needed and repairs. See with Kate it makes more since, because she owned the building in Bruce's absents that Luke works in and Mary was her family that had a skill that could help her. So when Kate called the shots it was because she was literally the person in charge of all the finances and included people she trusted that could help, sort of. Also I wonder if the Safaya island love is a universe crossing thing and not a magic forget me potion.
@joeespin4377
@joeespin4377 3 года назад
thank you for the review of another episode of batwoman the show that makes watching paint dry or grass grow sound really enticing.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 3 года назад
17:00 of course The GAY It gives you the natural gift of Fashion Appraiser of garb with one look is a power only Neophytes lack! XD
@bluelanternguardianangel8038
@bluelanternguardianangel8038 3 года назад
"My preferred pronouns are eat/sh$t" See thorias, this is why I love watching your reviews lmao
@DeadlyAssets
@DeadlyAssets 3 года назад
I have realised why they keep funding this show! It's YOU! You are by far the best thing that's come out of this show, the will you won't you bust a blood vessel this review is by far the most entertaining part of this show! It's a shame your losing it! you need a good show to review to recharge your batteries before your head explodes from all the S*%t this show is pumping out!
@dornfist3913
@dornfist3913 3 года назад
Great video Thorias! I have been following all your Batwoman reviews, and I appreciate your deep analysis and honesty at how bad this show is. And I still can't figure out for the life of me why CW has renewed Batwehman for season 3... Anyhow, keep up the good work!
@dylanbeebe4403
@dylanbeebe4403 3 года назад
I've seen enough DCAU (Batman The Animated Series to Batman Beyond) Justice League / Justice League Unlimited episodes that has Lex Luthor in it to know if Ryan doesn't get her kryptonite out of her and treated she will get Kryptonite Cancer and die (lex Luthor was lucky enough to have Brainiac there to kill the cancer)
@Radley1982
@Radley1982 3 года назад
Dang straight, and Luthor just handled kryptonite and it eventually him cancer, Ryan has a kryptonite bullet in her body (why she hasn't removed it is beyond me) so she could die a lot sooner. Unless she gets Mary's miracle blood (why she hasn't done that is also beyond me), she's basically doomed.
@dylanbeebe4403
@dylanbeebe4403 3 года назад
@@Radley1982 And in Justice League there was no cure because Luthor was selfish and kept it with him for years and no one ever knew what the effects of kryptonite could do to a person since they weren't able to study it and Luthor didn't allow his employees to tell anyone so Luthor would most certainly have died if not for Brainiac and that was over the course of years with the kryptonite Ryan only had it for a want to say a few months (I don't know how much time has passed)
@mmorpger0558
@mmorpger0558 3 года назад
I really appreciate your observations. You point out things I not only miss, or don't pay attention to, but things that I accept because of the writing of the show. I thought Wolf Spider looked like Kick Ass. Too bad, they could have gone the Young Justice route and made him some kind of rival/Spider-Man clone for fun. But they don't do things for fun or enjoyment. I just kind of let the show run in the background and shake my head from time to time. Like when they dropped all the SJW buzzwords. I'm looking forward to popping by for the Superman and Lois review. I love your insight.
@elongatedmanforever1252
@elongatedmanforever1252 3 года назад
I swear if Kate's God in this Godawful universe then I'm siding with the devil.
@andrewcurlutu6422
@andrewcurlutu6422 3 года назад
Thankfully, there is only ONE God, whose named is Christ. Kate is not, nor will she EVER be, a divinity. Thankfully. Christ, unlike Kate, is not a capricious [insert expletive here].
@elongatedmanforever1252
@elongatedmanforever1252 3 года назад
@@andrewcurlutu6422 Thank you, Christ gives us hope in the darkest of times.
@nerf1026
@nerf1026 3 года назад
Ryan is the Jussie Smollett of the CW bat universe.
@akiraguy
@akiraguy 3 года назад
why should I watch the show when watching the reaction to the show is far more entertaining?
@paratrooper321fa
@paratrooper321fa 3 года назад
You are better than I . I checked out of that trainwreck after episode 1.
@stevendisque1040
@stevendisque1040 3 года назад
really like to thank you 4 doing these reactions!!
@thanglongnguyenvu3815
@thanglongnguyenvu3815 3 года назад
Getting a bad burn and then refuse to get cured, proceed to make the terrible burn a badge of honor then self-inflict more burns is my summarization of this show's writers.
@FallenBlast
@FallenBlast 3 года назад
I'm trying to figure out if you have the show on in the background while you work on other stuff or base your content off the synopsis of the episode. Either way, that ending was full of "It's not batman and she isn't straight" energy. Well done on a great video!
@xystondory1726
@xystondory1726 3 года назад
I am not a DC comic book fan but I know for sure that Superman's nemesis is Lex Luthor, Batman's is Joker, Shazam's is Black Adam, Aquaman's is Amber Heard and 100% sure Batwoman's nemesis is Thorias Unlimited! Thank you for your reviews!
@simonhurt9666
@simonhurt9666 2 года назад
Batwoman: Falls dead. Batman: “Finally!”
@mistydolphin2524
@mistydolphin2524 3 года назад
I don't think they could be anymore blatant with the Crows being standins for the cops comparison if they tried. I think the onlly thing missing is cries for defunding/abolishing the crows. Watch them do that next episode.
@aprilhippie8752
@aprilhippie8752 3 года назад
The rage is strong with this one 😅
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 года назад
this is why i abandoned ship on this show a long time ago.
@immamullen
@immamullen 3 года назад
I only started to watch the show because I enjoy your takedowns of it and I wanted to know what you were talking about lol.
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