Bears Keenan Allen trade & tons more with Josh Lucas 

Poles firing this guy josh is his most underrated move tbh.

Josh Lucas cant let go of the guy he helped draft 😂

I love when Josh Lucas shows up. It's a fascinating insight into why the Bears have sucked for so long. All of his suggestions are just so same old Bears.

Man cant believe we have Allen and DJ Moore...

Seriously, an insider former executive says he is hearing a lot of scary "s&#t" about Caleb Williams, and nobody asks for what that info is? Even if you know he won't answer, you HAVE to ask!! Smh!

I wish someone would talk about Newton from Illinois playing with a broken toe and still dominating is impressive

The whole time Josh was talking about the plan to start Dalton all i could hear was Jahn's soundbite.

This guy is apart of the team that drafted Trubisky. I'm good on his crappy takes. Ask him about that

I hope you guys ask Lucas about that Everett/Shaheen eval

Good show you guys . I really appreciate Josh Lucas , he’s a good analyst. Great to hear a good scouts opinions.

Good lord. Who invited the wet blanket 😂

22:43 There is nothing for Justin Fields to teach anyone at Qb

Josh sounds drunk. The bears are not keeping justin if they draft caleb. this is why he's unemployed.

all of josh lucas' points represent everything that was wrong with the previous regime... comparing adonai mitchell and tez walker to MHJ, thinking JC Latham is the best OL in this draft, etc. It just shows that he thinks he's smarter than everyone else... "the salary cap doesn't matter" gimme a break lol. every time i've heard this guy talk i've been waiting for him to have at least one take that fits the general consensus. he's just a contrarian with bad hair dye.

Bears will likely trade back in the draft now. They need the picks with about 8 positions not filled on the current roster and no more cap space. Keenan Allen can take the pressure off a new WR3 and WR4, both huge holes on the roster. Bear Down!

I love these Josh Lucas episodes.

No quarterback drafted number 1 sits, what is he talking about. If it’s later in the draft or even later in the 1st I understand. But number 1 overall… doesn’t happen buddy

Keenan Allen celebration episode

Personally I think it would be horrible for Caleb to sit behind Fields. Either way you are going to Caleb year 2. If Fields looks good you aren’t gonna want to trade him and if he’s ass he will have 0 value

Y'all cannot be serious...how does neither of you ask Josh how they had George Kittle graded? He has been by far the best TE in that class and definitely should've been drafted over Shaheen.

Watching Caleb distributing the ball to Everett, Kmet, Moore, Allen, Swift, Petis and Scott is going to be so damn fun. Get ready to take over the NFC North!!!

Hoge and Jahns, every question... "But if it IS Caleb Williams..." This is going to be fun in a week or so.

13:00 Why yall bring this guy on? He’s clueless.

Episode was immediately turned off when he said the best option is keeping Fields and letting Caleb sit. Obvious why Lucas has been out of the league for years now lol

This dude needs to stops hitting Booze so hard 😂

No wonder why j Lucas is not with the team anymore

It’s the Joe Montana Steve Young approach. Young wasn’t a rookie but it worked great.

I don't want Justin sticking around and giving Caleb advice on how to be a below average NFL QB in this league

You guys make the cutest faces when truth slaps you lol!

I agree with Lucas on the QB solution. Remember even Mahomes and Brady sat when drafted…

Cole and Dj had career years from Justin Fields

“Some stuff I’ve heard would scare the shit out of me”… Then Hoge proceeds to not ask one single follow-up to what he means by that. After an “epic rant” about people assassinating Caleb’s character, wouldn’t you think Hoge might want to at least follow up with “what types of things have you heard?” Would’ve been nice to see him expand on that, even without specifics. Everyone keeps focusing on the bad-faith arguments, while ignoring a few actual criticisms or concerns. It’s almost like they just don’t want to entertain the idea that his ego could be a problem.

21:15 So Kenny Pickett gets traded and Justin Fields doesn’t have a market?😂

22:22 Justin Fields and Caleb Williams will not be on the same team. Unbelievable.

spoken like a guy who was part of drafting Trubisky

Mr. Monotone over here

this guy josh lucas is funny

18:14 So they have DJ Moore and K Allen and they’re going to run the ball more? Also Swift is a pass catching running back. Clueless.

We’re all ripping on Josh for being drunk. But damn, Josh is a competent nice dude. Hope he’s ok, circle the wagons Josh, get healthy, we’ll all support this.

Why is it you guys are speaking as if Caleb is on the bears?

Hoges background lookin like he played actual football lol

The scouts that are telling him this are the ones that fear the greatness he might be come or how polarizing he can be for the NFl.

"Things ive heard about Caleb (character-wise) scare the shit out of me. I dont know if they are true though. Never met the guy." And then: "Adonai Mitchell is a WR i love. He's nearly as great as Marv Jr. I guess hes got some character issues though but no worries i still love him."

Great Episode!! Don't think Caleb will pass Poles evaluation for what he's building in Chicago, Does not mean Caleb can't be a star which I think he can. They should just trade the Pick for a haul and then draft a QB late to develop well Justin plays out the next few years for a playoff run.

ITS HILARIOUS YOU PEOPLE ARE OBSESSED WITH CALEB WILLIAMS AND ALL THE TEA LEAVES ALL DAY JUSTIN FIELDS STAYING

I really enjoy Josh Lucas on the Pod. That said, there must have really been a lot of things that scared the shit out of him about Patrick Mahomes…..

Definitely Caleb. Caleb said at the combine the only thing he wants to know is if the bears want to win... That's what this trade says to me. They are trying to win now

Lol, I wonder what Hoge was thinking when Joch said to keep both and play JF1.

I disagree with Josh’s idea that Caleb may be an issue if he has to sit. You must have forgotten he chose to go to Oklahoma and was willing to walk on and sit behind the then Heisman favorite.

Damn why everyone hating on this dude lmao

Imagine if they kept Justin _AND_ drafted Caleb to study behind him for a year. The Bears would almost certainly be forced to do _NFL Hard Knocks._ Imagine the drama 😬

I hate draft guys saying this guy is a can’t miss superstar in regards to Murphy then goes into to tell all the drawback he has and why he won’t be a superstar. He played in the big 12 they don’t produce OL or dl look at tyree Wilson from last draft

Caleb at 1. Package next years 2ns rounder and move UP for Odunze. Center/Gaurd rd3 Center/Gaurd rd4 ... We have no glaring holes for the first time in my life.

We are not addressing the elephant in the room why isn't Josh Lucas not on team scouting? Got me wondering why not.

What do we think about Lucas's comments about Caleb Williams ("There's some things I've heard that would scare the shit outta me")? It would have been nice to get some sort of explanation, but the dude doesn't want to get sued for slander. But it was alarming for him to throw that out there.

Love this program thanks guys! Hoges should get out of chgo sports toxic carm enviroment its much better and more down to earth and fan based narratives here with you two imo.. I never see you having fun over there,,

Proven you should keep rookies on the bench? Did Lucas watch last year where CJ Stroud went to the 2nd round of the playoffs? This guy is clueless.

Friday Hoge and Jahns with Josh Lucas.... yea todays a good day

Well it’s a good thing Hoge and Jahns love having Josh on the show, because nobody else likes it.

Really annoys me that Josh is telling you guys that it’s best for any rookie to sit behind JF1 (and we know Poles was part of that happening for Mahomes), so if that’s Poles’ plan, then the league has NOT told Fields what he’s worth, bc Poles was never letting him go. We also know Poles hasn’t vetted Caleb yet. So Fields was never getting traded. Yet you guys allowed the dude to get crucified and told everyone he’s unwanted. Your assumptions coming into free agency were WRONG, and that’s on YOU (and the rest of the media), and not a reflection of JF1’s value

If Josh’s thoughts do not highlight the importance of getting Marvin Harrison Jr., I don’t know what to tell you.

The Bears have 4 picks now. These moves scream trade back from 1 . Williams is already a circus side show and the ownership doesn’t have the stomach for it. I expect they will keep Fields and run it back with more weapons.

Imagine this Batman… If Ryan Poles is thinking Keenan factors into being just a 2-3yr rental… He could easily trade away this years 1st overall pick and slide down to 2 or 3, then take "Maserati" Marv Jr. with that pick to fill the gap for Keenan future departure. But then you're stuck with that 2025 contract extension for JF1 DJ Moore, Keenan Allen & Maserati Marv... Such a scary good scenario, right?.. hahaha

The more I hear Josh the more I understand why he doesn’t have a nfl job.

I wonder who made and pushed that decision to purchase that empty lot in Arlington Heights without proper research of "what ifs". Oh that's right, Ted and George duh! CW is the consensus #1 overall that goes to the Bears, only one major red flag I'm worried about which is he and his team seems to be prima-donna. CW and his team is already being "difficult" to deal with and he has not taken an NFL snap yet. Tell me he does NOT want to go to Chicago without telling me kinda vibes.

Is there an example you can provide in regards to drafting Caleb and having a competition with Fields?

The more I listen to Josh and Greg Gabriel, the more I understand why this team has never had a good QB or offense. Can we please stop bringing Josh on?

Pace and Lucas passed on Mahomes for Trubisky. Nuff said.

why can't they see that if we trade the #1 pick for a bunch more picks since we're down to 4 picks this year and maybe draft MHJ. think about it MHJ, dj, kenaan, cole, everett, and swift doesnt that sound really good? why MHJ well kenaan will be 32 this season and even if we extend kenaan say 2 or 3 years his production will or may go down and MHJ will just go up and this way justin can just get better with people to throw to. just a thought

Well, it looks like the Eagles offered at least a 3rd for Justine. Because they were in talks with the Bears, and Bears said no to whatever offer was made. Cause there is no way, you give a 3rd and 2 7’s for Pickett, and don’t offer more for Justine. I’m for drafting Caleb, but there is no chance, and I mean none that Pickett is better than Justine, he had more weapons, an easier system, and was not even close to Justine in terms of o field performance. That means Poles probably has had better offers. May even have an offer on the table. He may just be waiting to the medicals on Caleb are don’t before he pulls the trigger. My guess is the Raiders, that leak that came out may not have been fake but early. Raiders fans are furious about Gardner. But Gardner may just be a contingency plan. Raiders probably don’t have a shot at a QB, and Gardner did not get a starters contract, he got a 2 year Backup contracts, 15 million guaranteed for 2 years. That’s nothing for a QB. But that’s pretty normal for a back up. Raiders want to build a power run game, that’s the core of what they want. Gardner is slow as shit, not athletic at all, but Justine is, Justine is the best running QB in the nfl. I think Poles got something in his back pocket.

Fields has no one to blame but himself. Fumbling, not seeing open receivers, not being able to read a defense. You get what you deserve

Clown said he loves a receiver because he's fast and tall but is horrible at running routes!WTF

Jim Miller also believes Williams should sit for a year.

How about trading down to Wash. and getting both #2s and next years #1? Draft Drake Maye at #2 and let Justin play out his contract?

I thought he said the same thing about Murphy. LOL

I'm so grateful to all the useful idiots artificially inflating the value of that #1 overall pick. Thank you for your service.

No follow up on "I've heard things about Caleb Williams that fucking scare me"?

Josh Lucas is a clown

WAIT THE BEARS WERE A GREAT RUNNING TEAM BECAUSE OF FIELDS TAKE HIS YARDS AND AVERAGE OF THE FREAKING STATS.

HARD NO on "first defender on your board" The top 3 WR are RARE. we can trade down for more "guys" and "still" get a guy at reciever... 2 JAG

I wonder if the Bears might replace Bagent since he was a Getsy guy around the 5th round by like a Jordan Travis.

what's up with the Keenan Allen Taliban beard?

Josh Lucas, once again, proving why the Bears have a laughingstock for a decade. Hoge and Jahns right there with him on the laughingstock scale…. What a couple of clowns. Someone get Josh a bloody mary, he struggling.

Everyone laughed at Green Bay when they drafted a qb in the 1 st and wasted years letting him sit . Clearly it helps . So if we get Caleb and there is no real market for fields let williams come along the way mahommws did. Everyone wants to say he is mahommes / then bring him along the same way too

Conway and Graham

I don't have a preference for CW or JF, if you look at all the moves objectively all the signs are pointing towards the Bears trading the #1 overall pick. How do these guys who call themselves experts refuse to even acknowledge this as even a possibility?

Why say you have heard something that would worry if the sources aren’t reliable and the fact that you can’t or won’t name them. I hate when ppl say things of this nature. It’s baseless claims.

He’s going to have 40 catches playing with fields

Listen to the genius that picked Tribisky over Watson and Mahomes.

Can't wait until they all realise caleb isn't being drafted by the bears and JF1 is still the QB1 and they have to back track on all this Negative narrative takes about JF1. Josh Lucus just said Caleb would have to change his game to play in this system, but they still push their narrative to fit what they only want to believe is happening with the #1 pick

What is this guy talking about????????????????

Whose wearing number 13 for the 2024 season?

What you tell JF is that this is his opportunity to showcase what he can do for a trade or keep his position

If I’m any of the top qbs especially Caleb and the bust former first round pick is a head of me I’m demanding a trade.

glad they talked about adam shaheen, arguably the worst pick ive seen since kevin white.

ONLY JOHN LUCAS WOULD BE DOWN IN THIS TRADE LMFAO-IN CONTEXT HE IS THE GUY WHO WANTED MITCH OVER MAHOLMES-MITCH WAS HIS GUY. I LIKE LUCAS BUT WHAT HE SAYS SOMETIMES IS STRANGE. THIS GUY CAN STILL BE AVERY GOOD WR FOR 34 YEARS -HE RUNS FANTASTIC ROUTES AND GREAT HANDS AND EXPERIENCE

Justin has had three years to earn a fourth year and hasn’t. He’s had three years to earn the opportunity to keep being a starter and hasn’t. At this point we are a case study for sunk cost fallacy.

WHY HASN’T ANYONE HEARED THAT IAN HAS SAID THE BEARS HAD OFFERS FROM ATLANTA & STEELERS BEFORE THEY DRAFTED KIRK C. & RUSSLE WILSON BUT POLES SAID THEY WEREN’T SHOPPING FIELDS, MAKES SENSE, THEY HAVEN’T HAD THERE PRO-DAY YET TO EVEN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO DRAFT OR KEEP FIELDS🤔🤔🤔

the cap money comes from league revenue not from the owners bank account. wtf is this dude talking about lack of cash.

Uggggggghh.