Bears Roster Tier: DEFENSE with Josh Lucas | Hoge & Jahns 

Longer episodes=better. No Bears podcast comes close to Hoge and Jahns

Make the shows as long as they need to be. I love the longer episodes. 1:28

These Lucas shows have become my favorite. It's great to see what goes down on the inside and how players are evaluated

All the podcasts are great but these episodes with Josh Lucas are can’t miss! Such a good addition!

Josh really adds such awesome insight that’s hard for fans and media people to catch. The Edwards/Edmunds discussion was great - how Edwards’ weaknesses force certain defensive looks and Edmunds had to cover for it. Seems like both played better when Flus figured out how to use his personnel

Feelings about Josh Lucas front office personnel guy aside… love these episodes. I hope he continues to make media appearances

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE ALL TJ EDWARDS STATS SHOWS HE IS A HANDS DOWN TOP PLAYER!!!!!!

Love these episodes with Josh Lucas. I can listen to him talk ball all day. 🐻🔽

Commercials are making me wish this show would get over already....and it's a great show.

All I can say is Josh needs more coffee or whatever’s in his cup and I bathroom break. Lol great job guys!!!

The O show was so good I watched it twice. Looking forward to this!

Man, love every minute of this deep dive, fantastic stuff.

I enjoy the podcast fellas.josh is great 2. Great guest to have in these times

Really enjoyed this series guys. Thanks, and keep up the great work!

Hoge and Jahns is the premier Bears podcast. Lucas makes them BETTER. Keep involving him, especially during the Bears most interesting season. Draft season.

Fantastic shows guys, really enjoyed the insight.

Tuesday's episode was excellent. Looking forward to this one

I appreciate Josh's knowledge, perspective and insight but he is very loyal to players he picked. In one way I admire this. In another way it can cloud judgement a bit.

Great Show!!!

2 great episodes!

I feel like there should have been a follow-up question to Josh saying he highly doubts Jaylon Johnson will continue to be a good tackler after he gets his new contract. I realize there's a fairly obvious answer (the man got paid and doesn't want to risk his health), but it would've been nice to hear Josh say more about that.

Fantastic podcast guys

Well done guys!

I love that they saw the comment suggesting color coding and they did it. Pretty cool to know that they actually value our feedback.

Josh lucas shows ate cool... but man.. he really TRUSTs his evaluations above all else lol

God bless everyone Go birds.we miss TJ

Stoked for the Bears corners. I think Tyrique will pop this year and become a big problem for opposing QBs.

Excellent.

Agree Jahns. TJ is top tier.

You guts should rank the first rd draft class. This is great stuff

Love these Josh Lucas shows. I've started watching anything he's part of. If the Bears get JJ on a long term contract, would they consider putting Eddie Jackson on the franchise tag for a year until they feel better about having his replacement?

Edwards is a top player IMO

These tier list videos are great definitely bring Lucas back

Our CBs are awesome

Jayson Johnson's first two years he had Kahil Mack and Hicks rushing the passer with Roquan playing lb. He was on a pretty good defense to start...

You know I wish sometimes they would actually go in depth in these guys and explain why these guys are having trouble adjusting for example Dexter he was more highly touted coming out of high school then Jalen Carter was it was his bad luck that Florida went from a 4-3 defense his freshman year to a two Gap system it took him about half the year to to train out of that to one Gap react and got two and a half sacks in like eight games. Also, they might pick up a value DT in the draft, but they'll focus on Edge, give last year's rookies a chance to shine

I wonder if in the exit interviews they told Smith he might move to Jackson’s position.

Jackson...GOOD?!

Dexter had little football experience in highschool then went to Florida where they didn’t develop him. Also Madibuke with the ravens took until this year to pop off I’m giving dexter time.

I’m glad yall like Lucas but it’s hard for me to take him seriously since he presided over some bad teams….with players he may have helped acquire…

Bear down!!!

I’ll give Lucas credit for the funniest line. “ I’ll give in to you guys because you guys see the locker room “ Hoge spends more time in the high school locker room than the Bears.

Woot it's high on Dexter

Better Late than NEVER… #Hoge_N_Jahns Football RULZ‼️

Dallas Turner……! This guy would definitely improve the Defense and the team as a whole!!

Is there a market in trade for #4

If you make the move at 3-tech... you don't NEED another DE. You could get away with sweat+ great 3-tech + Dexter+ a Rotation

Ro Smith has to be hidden behind a strong dl that keeps the ol off him. Edwards and Edmunds + contract> ro Smith + contract

Did Jackson have any take away last year? Feels like 0 maybe 1 so I’m not sure how crazy the market would be. Misses lots of tackles not even looking at the tape but watching the games. Gotta imagine we move on.

Anyone else notice that between the two shows (offense and Defense) that they only had 16 players in the first two categories and one of those is Eddie Jackson? Both Hoge and Jahns want the Bears to draft Caleb with the first pick yet they showed how bad the depth is on the team! Talking out of both sides of their mouths is a strong point with them. They want to resign JJ but Lucas doubts they’ll see the same tackling from him next year? WTF JJs on his 5th year but has only played at that level one year and that was his contract year. Sign him and trade him.!

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Gordon is top tier

I think Gervon Dexter is out of position . He is a natural five-tech (end) in a Bill Parcells/ Bill Cowher type 3-4 defense. Those guys are typical tall and they can play a bit higher because they aren't really trying to penetrate that much. Leonard Marshall, Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel come to mind. I know the Packers took his lunch money all day in the season finale.

I’m team first but I will never fault a player for leaving for more money or ring chasing unless it’s with the packers. The teams talk about loyalty but will cut the player without blinking an eye. The cowboys sold the ND lb who blew his knee out on a team friendly deal and being a cowboy for life after a pro bowl year. They cut him half way through the contract to save the cap.

Stevenson needs to be at the top tier.

It shows, both on the offense episode and this episode, that the Bears have way too many average players. Having average players is not bad, and obviously most of your players will be there, but we need more TOP players to win more than 10 games, especially on offense. The defense looks solid, but we need one more Top tier player and one or two more Good tier players to be able to be a good defense CONSISTENTLY (aka not collapsing like in those Lions, Broncos, and Browns games). I dont even have to mention offense, but we obviously need more than DJ Moore. A good QB, WR2, U TE, Center, and general OLine depth will get us over that playoff hump, but that's a lot to ask, especially for a historically incompetent Bears organization.

Dexter was a read and react DL. That's where the inconsistent play comes from. He needs to develop more

Lucas once again proves to me how lucky the Bears are to not have him in their offices.

It bothers my OCD so much that you guys used red for top tier and green for bottom tier

Why not a trade?

We do not have enough money for a splash DLINE. More reason to trade the pick for picks.

Stuck with Green and Walker if they are under contract. Unfortunate.

They let Lewis and Gipson go and kept Robinson😂😂Cut him

Edwards and Edmonds should switch contracts.

Sanborn is our best LB

Stroman is great

BoJack is in the MOVE ON category!! Can't/WON'T tackle!!!

Brisker is in the top

Help me understand. Josh Lucas famous for picking Trubisky over Mahomes and Watson. But Hoge and James platform this guy as some kind of expert on college talent?

dexter is not a 3tech. he is much more of a nose. he is a heck of a player but a bad fit for flus’s scheme. but flus’s scheme is not a great one so i rather just start dex and billings and stuff the run

EJACK needs to reduce his salary.

I had to pause and comment when they got to Edmunds. Josh Lucas is spot-on with his analysis of him. I'd rather see them move Edwards to the Mike spot and insert Noah Sewell into that linebacking core than watch Edmunds underperform. Trade this guy asap!

See, this is why I don't trust 'Flus. Like most GMs do, Poles got rid of the locker-room leaders from past régimes, Monty & Roquan Smith. Edwards plays well because he's a new one & enjoys the role. No one else on this team does well. They just do like what you describe Edmonds as doing, letting the plays come to them. Why _is_ that? There was a period of weeks right after obtaining Sweat where the entire team seemed to perform well. Okay it wasn't _exactly_ after they got Sweat. It was after D.J. Moore publicly expressed support for Fields. A few weeks later, as if commanded, all this public support ended then the play-calling returned to how it had been before this good period. Coincidence? No. 'Flus makes it Damned Clear in post game press conferences that He Decides what the *offense* is limited to even though he has no background in it. He's a micromanager & a tyrant who wants to think everything is under his control. Those good weeks showed he *can* run this team better. So why does he avoid doing so as often as he does? I think he deliberately keeps the team down & whether it's for better draft picks or any other excuse, it doesn't matter. If he now switches to doing things differently it'll show all the players still on the team he was tanking their games & careers. This breeds distrust. I damned well _hope_ Fields gets traded. For his _own_ sake.

Good show! Almost feel like there should be another level on the top. Edward’s and Edmonds on the same level does not tell the story. Totally disagree on Jackson though. I’d hesitate to put him at average.

Josh Lucas is dead wrong about TJ Edwards. This is the kinda stuff that sours me on Lucas. When it comes to real ballers the guy doesn't know his poop shoot from a gopher hole.

Keep Justin Jones

T. J. Edwards has serious limitations covering fast backs, but so did Roquan. Edwards is overall better than Roquan in my opinion. When we had Roquan he wasn’t playing well. He often gets tackles but gets dragged for 2 more yards and rarely stops guys in their tracks. I think he is over rated. Edmonds when healthy is better than both of them!

This show is all about finding things wrong with players

I really thought edmunds would be able to sniff plays out better with that shnozz, flus is definitely smitten with smitty… all 3 starting cb’s are 2nd rd picks, ejax wasn’t taclikg like last year

They were too high on several of the offensive players. Kmet is definitely not top tier, and the Bears overpaid him anyway. The Bears only have 3 players near top tier, Moore, Johnson, and Sweat.

Quality over speed. Short vids are overrated. Long form is fine. Good job again.

Smith and Sewell not in the same tier. Smith is way better.

Roquan is good but Lucas overrates him

Chicago's play callers and play designers couldn't utilize the talents and abilities of Justin Fields, what magic potion have they taken to make them able to recognize how to take advantage of skills that Caleb Williams has? Behind an offensive line that couldn't block a 5' 11" 21 year old who goes to the stands seeking mama's ninny while tears stream can't lead men in the NFL.. Trade that 1st pick take Marvin Harrison Jr and Olu Fashanu at nine, build the offensive line with a center and two guards. Draft or trade for an edge to equal Sweat, and draft Brendon Rice to complement MHJ

Like the premise of the show and the way you break it down but I don’t give Josh much credibility. He was all in with Trubisky and that was bad

I feel like there's no way Josh believes what he says about Bojack lol but I guess when you played part in drafting him you don't know how to keep it real. Dudes trippin. His play has fallen off tremendously. Don't lie

Pickens and Dexter were rookies. Give them a break. This is why Lucas is not in the league.

Edmonds is disappointing but if he’s having to cover for another guys flaws he needs credit for some of edwards production.

Putting Eddie Jackson on the same shelf as Edwards, Stevenson, and Gordon is comical. I like all the other takes, but Jesus is this dudes bias showing through. He drafted him so of course he thinks he is good, but a safety that doesnt/cant tackle isn't worth a shit when there are players like Minkah Fitzpatrick, and Jordan Poyer out there who can do both. I still dont understand why we all go to the guy who took Trubisky over Mahomes for his positional value evaluations. 😂😂😂

That's exactly what's going to happen with Johnson when he gets his money

This guy is unemployed for a reason.

You guys love Lucas because he is a negative Nancy like you all😅

Listen, man. I know you drafted Eddie, but holy shit that dude needs to go. The 2nd highest contract on the team and he underperforms. The dude needs to go. He got paid and turned into trash. Much like Trubisky over Mahomes, you made the wrong choice.

Cut Dylan Cole. Wasted roster spot.

Sewell is below average

Eddie sucks flat out, cant tackle and has been way over paid, our nickel should be playing second corner. When he filled in outside his rookie year, he was incredible, they could have 2 top corners outside. Who cares about a 3!! They already invested too much on the defense! You can only have 1 side that is top in money and they are choosing wrong, its not the 80's justin should of had a better line and more weapons. Who cares about the d lets get 2 more top wr , offense wins champonships now

I have a problem with the tj edwards stuff he’s a great player but you’re forcing your highly paid LB to cover his flaws and as a result his game is suffering.

I feel Johnson will disappear after he gets paid