Best BNF WalkSnail Whoop // Meteor 75 vs MobLite7

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As requested we compare the decision points to choosing the 2 currently available BNF WalkSnail Whoops
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@volvo850enjoyer8 Год назад

thanks a lot for making a comparison! Just bought myself a walksnail system so videos like this will help me and many others out! :D And yes, the 2 Lightsabers in the Background look epic

@shockruk Год назад

Awesome. Thanks for this Nick! Glad you went ahead and did this comparison.

@amin0_acid310 Год назад

Nice comparison, and good to know there are aspects of the heavier whoop to be of notice, especially that canopy. Pretty slick having the VTX bolt into the Canopy and FC to the frame. Both look like decent whoops, since getting into FPV I've gone with Happymodel a lot. They just have a price you can't beat in a lot of cases and make good stuff, I like how they fly. Also thank you for noting you prefer the HD Zero one too. It's helping me to decide which HD system I might want to use. As always, thank you for taking the time to make these videos for your adoring fans, Cheers! Edit: Forgot to mention the light sabers, not distracting at all, make em both blue and keep em running for your videos. Those look awesome!

@JanPeterSimonsen Год назад

Great to see you did this after the "poll" in the other video :)

@upsouthfpv Год назад

Great comp...I haven't switched to digital yet, but I love the Mob7's flight character, so I'm leaning toward the HDZero on the Mobula7 chassis. Thanks!

@apachesmokewoundedsniper Год назад

The new lights look cool, put my 5” down for the winter, and I just started to fly the Mobula6 Elrs. It’s pretty darn cool flying indoors.

@josefdahari Год назад

Love this comparison man. I just got the moblite 7 and building me a another walksnail whoop similar to the betafpv. But yeah the weight difference is def there

@gmivisualsjason3729 Год назад

I'm putting the walksnail 1s vtx on the darwin baby ape..... I'll have to mod the camera mount but should be a great micro freestyler. And affordable as well.

@broken4999 Год назад

Leave the lights it's a cool touch 👍. Thanks again nick

@ACodeGaming Год назад

Hey love the video but I fly analog I have alot of betafpvs 300 and 450 1s batteries. I was wondering what drone i should buy. I want to just practice flying inside my main drone is a 5in freestyle. Do you have any recommendations also I the tx16s no modules on it.

@williamtam6732 Год назад

Thank you for the comparison!

@jamesmichaelcabrera9613 Год назад

This was the video I was waiting for because I ordered that walk. Snail Vrx

@flyinbots Год назад

I'd go for the full fixed colour rather than patterns if you're using them for filming back lights, they're a little distracting pulsing in the background otherwise. Thanks for the discount cards but being based in the UK means it's better going to someone stateside. Keep up the good work Nick.

@upsouthfpv Год назад

I envision the lightsabers as an "Orbit point" or a "turnaround" at the end of a series of whoop gates. They'll be a great addition to my whoop course. --Thanks for sharing those! ---it's wHoOpSeAson~

@CaptCalgary Год назад

I like ‘‘em too. !! I also liked when your logo ( printed one ) would spin

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I would like it to spin as well. The little platform doesn't resume spinning when I plug it in, I have to take the case apart and set it to spin each time. :(

@johncarold Год назад

Hi Nick Great video and review of the walksnail meteor75 and Moblite 7. I just love flying 75mm whoops, and walksnail has a excellent picture, but $230 for a Whoop, I have problems with $120 for a whoop with analog. Thanks again for the video and information about these two quads.

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

$110 for the video system… so your math is basically spot on. :p I do get what you mean though, especially getting it stuck in a tree or something, it’s a lot to loose for a tiny toy. But it’s even more extreme on the larger quads… that’s why you see people putting monumental effort, at times, for retrieval… Especially with a GoPro… you are generally looking at $1000+ for one quad… Better believe you will do everything in your power to retrieve it 😂 Analog is better on the small stuff anyway :p so just fly what you got and have fun!

@flyfpvfish4962 Год назад

Nice review 👌.. I like both of them.. but I still fly analog..

@broken4999 Год назад

Thanks nick some good information 👍

@Martoriass Год назад

Yeah still just the two available now that I'm watching the video :) Thanks for the comparison and for listening to requests.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

lol. I nevery know how long it will take me to get things edited and publish.

@Martoriass Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV totally understandable :) thanks again, moblite7 looks promising for me.

@MrMartinRome Год назад

Thanks Nick, as always, very informative. I was thinking about moving the motors and electronics from an old Mobula 7, 2s, to a Meteor 75 frame and put the new Walksnail board on it. What are your thoughts? It's the original F3 2s capable board and motors.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

should work. We probably want longer canopy screws to firm up the stack.

@MrMartinRome Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Good idea. Also, not sure if the 5v BEC on the F3 board can deliver enough amps, but I think it's worth a try.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@MrMartinRome I think the walksnail 1s vtx is 3.1volts to 5volts. If the bec drops below 5v we should be fine.....up to the point of bec failure.

@MrMartinRome Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Based on what I have read about the walksnail 1s VTX it may draw more than 1amp, but I assume there is some headroom on the BEC on the FC. I hope so.

@Crusader4633 2 месяца назад

What would be the answer on this today - best Walksnail bird for indoors? Moblite7 vs Meteor 75 vs Firefly Nano w/ the guards installed vs ???

@drelephanttube 5 месяцев назад

I'd be curious to know what your thoughts are now the Meteor75 PRO WS is out. It's 5g lighter than the Meteor75 you compared here, so the weights are fairly similar now, with the Meteor being 2g heavier than the Moblite7. Also it's a larger 80mm frame, bigger 45mm props and 22000kv motors instead of 18000kv, so now more kv than the Moblite7. I believe the Moblite7 has a BEC while the Meteor75 Pro doesn't, so i think the VTX will cut out if the voltage sags below 3.1V on the Meteor75 Pro, but not on the Moblite7. Is this true or will it happen on both those whoops? Is it something to worry about? Would it damage the batteries if it sags below 3.1V just for a second?

@drunkskunk00 Год назад

Thanks for the comparison. I saw someone on discord had an HDZero Mob 7 build down to 25 and a half grams. I wonder if the Walksnail version could be gotten down under 30?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

generally the WS will be about 2grams more than an HDZero counter part when all else is the same.

@drunkskunk00 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV 2 grams isn't bad. maybe I'll have to try building one as light as possible.

@lorinwingtips5290 Год назад

YAY!! Mobula Wins! I think the BetaFPV is absolutely adorable. that canopy is so cute! But weight matters.

@Toddsnightmare Год назад

Great video nick love the Breakfast Club Shirt

@doccock100 Год назад

So, Chris Rosser did a video showing that the new 1s lite with lite camera (walksnail) was only 1g heavier than HDzero, so I suppose an equivalent build for moblite7 walksnail would be 30.5g and HDzero 29.5. If happymodel did that build with up to date walksnail 1s lite components then the walksnail looks more compelling.... what do you think?

@solongbattlestar Год назад

Hey Nick, how about trying XT30 on your 75mm whoops? Whenever I have to use a 400-650mAh 1s battery, I use xt30 instead of ph2 or bt2 or gnb27. For the stick 300mAh 1s I keep ph2 or bt2. Although ph2 is way more convenient on the 65mm whoops. Kabobfpv switched his Emax Tinyhawk 2 to xt30 and I followed suit. Let's see a video of a difference between xt30 vs. bt2 or gnb27 on 75mm whoops. Thanks

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

xt30 is fine, but on a whoop they won't sit flat and add a touch of weight. I prefer to save any added weight to something I might not be able to reduce elsewhere. Add that I don't see any 300mah 1s batteries with stock xt30 and few xt30 1s stock batteries overall. So we have to switch on both ends.

@harrisaerialservices3002 Год назад

love the lights

@jamesroberts8971 Год назад

First comment 😁 Looking forward to this as I've just ordered the VRX and Micro setup for a 3.5" build I am planning. Looking to get a 1s setup though for a 75mm indoor / winter build 😁

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

Nice! I’m planning on putting it on Recursion Labs’s 3.5” frame. I got the 25.5mm top plate… so, I’m just waiting on the VTX and VRX. What motors are you thinking? I have some 1404s and 1804s I want to try on this frame… with HQ3.5”

@jamesroberts8971 Год назад

@@lemonsquareFPV I have an AlfaRC fi-150 frame coming (I already have the 2.5" version) to go with some 1404 motors (unused) I already have. It'll be running 3s along via a AIO FC. Really looking forward to the video clarity and range over my Analogue setup.

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

@@jamesroberts8971 Funny how you mention AlfaRC. I have friends there and I literally have every frame they make. Good cruisers. Most have poor geometry for absolute performance, but that wasn’t the design intention… for what they are, they are great 👍🏻 good carbon too. 1404s make a really good cruiser/long range. You will definitely enjoy the combo! Plus on 3S you will have pretty significant autonomy! I made a 35 minute 3S LiIon on 1404s a while back. Got some great footage too, that rig.

@Drieeedger Год назад

Nick, I need help picking a new battery connector. It feels like Bluray vs HD DVD or VHS vs Betamax and I have a history of picking the wrong one! I understand they both perform well, but which connector will be easier to find on batteries going forward? My Canadian shops stock only ph2.0 except for 1 shop that has a couple gnb27 in stock at the moment.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Isn't snhobbies.com in Canada. I see they are in BC. Is that far away? I see they have some betafpv and tattu batteries with bt2.0 They do have gnb27 as well but only the larger batteries better for 75mm whoops. I think if that shop is acceptable I would suggest bt2.0. I don't think bt2.0 will go away as it is the preferred connector for the most serious of whoopers/racers as it was the first better 1s connector on the market.

@Drieeedger Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick, I've never shopped there before. I recall looking there a couple years ago but didnt think they had much modern fpv stuff. The brushed eachine whoops threw me off!

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

The 4’ tube lights we use in video production are $400, so $50 is super reasonable. Not the same, but it’s a data point :p These 100% look like lightsabers!! Great comparison Nick! ❤ I feel Walksnail would do significantly better with a 2” prop, when my 1S board gets here this will be the first thing I build. These motors are 1102… on a 75mm, 1002 is already on the big side, for me. What is that… 4 motor wise: 12g 1102 10g 1002 7-8g 0802 5.5g 0702 I’ll just leave these right here for reference… 75mm frames I fly on the daily: 4.24g HM V2 black 4.97g HM V2 white carbon bottom 5.41g HM V4 gray 5.51g HM V4 white 6.02g HM V4 white carbon bottom 6.90g NBD 75 blue carbon bottom

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

ouch $400, I suppose for professional work the highest quality is required. I am not a fan of 1002 on 2inch triblades. I don't feel the prop control that I prefer, they do work well on 2inch biblades.

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Agreed! 2” bi-blades and heavy 40mm, literally perfect on 1002s, but that’s it, I wouldn’t do a heavier prop. Maybe the ultralight 65mm push-on props.. hmm 🤔 I’m gonna try this today. I assume it will be a bit better than when we had 0802 toothpicks with 65mm. But that wasn’t that good at all honestly. Edit: The lights are just higher colour rendering index and brightness. And more durable, obviously, to be able to survive a production environment. This all costs money. But if it’s a light you won’t pack and move too much and don’t need the brightness, then a cheaper light would obviously be better in that application.

@modquad18 Год назад

Happymodel just gets it. Lights are good 👍🏽

@Terry12345 Год назад

Ha! I called the winner last week on your other video. I bought the Meteor 75 and after our conversation I found a Mobula7 2-3s HDZERO for a backyard flyer. I never thought I would own a digital whoop. I wonder what the future holds, 4K-8K whoops?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Who knows, not that long ago I don't think most of use thought we would have 720P fpv.

@brundle_fly5123 Год назад

I can't help but notice your shirt, love it and want to know where to find one.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Yea, I spent many a day watching that classic. I believe this is the shop I bought this from. www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/13931853-the-breakfast-club I also have the John Bender shirt :)

@brundle_fly5123 Год назад

@Nick Burns I grew up in Chicagoland and I have been to that school before it was demolished. Is was surreal 😳

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@brundle_fly5123 very cool .... Shermer high

@slowvoltage Год назад

Excellent comparison release! Your final personal notes on hdzero 😉 agreed. Love the new lights and they are not distracting, other than me looking to put them on my holiday wish list 🙌🏽. Peace love and respect. NB, If you can make it, the second round of micro battles is bots stream this friday at 9pm est, battles start around 9:45ish, and last week was really wonderful, lots of levity. [for your viewers, as I am a parent] the stream is not for all, and will not be appropriate for kids which is why it is on after bedtime. 👆🏽very unconventional and hedonistic in a wholesome way, if you have an open mind to not judge a book by it's cover, or it's language, or its personal choices depicted within; expect a lot of inspiration, support, advocacy, and dedication; the host is more like baloo from the jungle book than what they appear at face value... a scary bear, they are not.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

ah yes, I did catch part of his last stream on Friday. i will see if I can make it during the live. Thanks for the reminder.

@Mupshot Год назад

1102 is an interesting choice of motor. I was considering 1002 20,000kv for my next build and thinking they were too big

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

If BetaFPV made a 1002, trust me, they would use it! 1102 IS on the big side. And adds 2 grams unnecessary weight. 1002 is already very good for heavy 40mm and 2” props. Edit: for a lighter quad 1002 IS big, I personally stick to 0802s on light weight, analog, GF1610 builds. But with digital 1002 is definitely the sweet spot! Totally understand why Happymodel came out with 1002s… it’s there bread and butter, that size!

@vassilis331 Год назад

Great video Nick. Quick question maybe a silly one, but why not xt30? Any weight considerations?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

We can go that route, on a whoop the benefit is likely less especially considering the weight of the connector over connectors like the gnb27 or bt2.0

@vassilis331 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV so for a build would you go the gnb27 or BT2.0 route?

@lemonsquareFPV Год назад

@@vassilis331 Personally I use: BT2.0 for 0802s and smaller GNB27 for 1002s and larger From extensive testing this seems to be the transition point. XT30 starts to make sense at about the 1104ish size but I go back and fourth with GNB27, in the 1S size. Depends on the weight/power draw, but basically it’s battery size. When at 2S+ XT30 all the way.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@vassilis331 for 1s, it likely down to what batteries are more readily available to you. In the US more 450mah bt2.0 are starting to pop up on the market, not sure about outside US.

@vassilis331 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV I’m in US and I see RDQ having both PH2.0 and GNB27, but only a few BT2.0 outside BetaFPV.

@Tervevaan Год назад

Are you gonna make a review out of cetus x? it would mean lot to me

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

eventually

@nikotttin Год назад

Have you tried the new 0802s from betafpv? They say these are lighter than the previous ones…

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I haven't

@Tokyo_Dom Год назад

1002 is just not an efficient motor size imo. I was hoping it was just the rcinpower motors (happymodel motors are generally quite efficient) but if 1102s are more efficient even at 4g heavier, it's not very appealing

@Lowbattery_fpv Месяц назад

Hey Nick, have you some cool tune for moblite 7 hdz?🎉🎉

@NickBurnsFPV Месяц назад

the one just released or these old ones. For reviews I use the PID tune the quads come with from the manufacturer.

@Lowbattery_fpv Месяц назад

@@NickBurnsFPV the default tunes don't look bad to me. Your flight look smooth

@walkofshamebadairdayfpv6120 Год назад

Nothing like a good shootout

@MCsCreations Год назад

Thanks for the comparison, Nick! 😃 But yeah, I can't understand why they keep using the PH2.0 conector... Even the old JST is infinitely better! 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@gustofpv4470 Год назад

nick - nive vid.....unrelated , but do you know what is going on with avantquads?....been trying to order and page and email contacts are "out"....any comments?...thx...

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Last word I have is they were having issues with paypal. That was weeks ago and they thought they would be able to resolve it quickly, but that hasn't been the case.

@gustofpv4470 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks much...

@Quad_Father Год назад

Switching to BlueJay on my Moblite75 Walksnail gives me 4 minutes inside cruising. Was less than 3 before switching.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I presume 48hz on the motor pwm? For faster flight I have trouble adopting the to slower motor/prop slow down rate of 48hz or higher. I give up the flight time for the control I prefer.

@Quad_Father Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV yep… 48hz so is definitely a control vs flight time trade off.

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@Quad_Father I struggle to get down as quickly as I need to with higher hz pwm. Especially going through the treadmill or the cube gate when I throttle up to much.

@flinchfpv8858 Год назад

Great video and information as always Nick 🏆🎉🥂 I have to agree the BT 2 connectors are distinctly better than the others I have used. Also I cannot put into words how happy I was to hear you promote WeBleed FPV (plus their batteries 🔋) and his shop! I can vouch for his fantastic service, great range, amazingly helpful attitude and yes how he genuinely supports the FPV community and gets joy from helping people to enjoy the wonderful world of FPV 😊 Thanks for all you do and love seeing your videos pop up on my feed 😊

@seewell8168 Год назад

I can say that for whatever reason WeBleed has set extremely high shipping rates to Canada so I personally won’t entering but good luck to those in the US!

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Its a small shop. They likely don't have many options on international shipping. I have heard that other small shops do find less expensive international shipping, but it takes awhile to know there is a market and find a reasonable shipper they can trust.

@jankucera8505 Год назад

i soldered the antenna directly when it broke apart on my other quad and it somehow worked. even better reception than before

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

Likely the ufl on the previous flights was a bit loose and not making great contact on the signal or ground side of the connector, which hurts our reception.

@willfpv4475 Год назад

More lights!!!!!

@fromfela Год назад

which is quieter?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

They are the same to me, but you can watch the videos and make your own judgement.

@delmarvaaerial3608 Год назад

Any o3 bnfs in the works?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

I would highly doubt anything under a 3inch prop would

@delmarvaaerial3608 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV geprc is doing their tinygo 1.6” with the o3

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@delmarvaaerial3608 boy is that going to be heavy.

@Gamebit450 Год назад

I can not find the link in description ?

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

curious comment. There are many links in the description. I don't know how to help further. I think youtube kids won't allow the viewer to see the video descriptions or links.

@Gamebit450 Год назад

@@NickBurnsFPV Sorry I did not specify. The link I am asking about, is the link to enter for the gift cards. TY

@NickBurnsFPV Год назад

@@Gamebit450 lol, I suspected as much but didn't want to presume. We need to click the "show more" text then scroll way down to where is has the word "form", bam that's the form link. 😉

@itzjoeylo4501 7 месяцев назад

What’s the best Walksnail BnF now…?

@NickBurnsFPV 7 месяцев назад

depends what sort of quad your looking for.

@itzjoeylo4501 7 месяцев назад

@@NickBurnsFPV budget in mind, I just bought the high quality Fatshark DominAtor Avatar HD Goggles w/ 4in1 RadioMaster TX16S MKII with external MicroExpressLRS module all unlocked. Came with custom built AtomRC Killer Whale, HD Kit V2 air unit w/ Head tracking. Because I just spent all that cash on the HD equipment, I’m looking for a budget drone with fixed camera (no head tracking needed) something to fly around the house outside and not have to goto a special RC field to fly. I would like it to be bind and fly with either my 4&1 internal or my external ELRS module with my FatShark HD Dominator’s. Any advice? Maybe something 2S would be my best guess. Thank you for your response.

@NickBurnsFPV 7 месяцев назад

@@itzjoeylo4501 I think the meteor85, happymodel bassline or mobula 8 all fit that description. Maybe the best of the bunch is the flywoo flylens85, its also likely the most expensive of the group. I reviewed the O3 version of the flylens85.

@itzjoeylo4501 7 месяцев назад

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you Nick