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It doesn't necessarily equate to foul play either.

I wonder if he was swimming and the boat propeller hit his head and they put him along the road.

One of the polygraph test questions should have been, "Were you angry that Noah did not want to be in a romantic relationship with you?" Another question should have been, "Were you willing to hurt Noah because he rejected your sexual advances?"

​@@kendrahansen1175polygraph tests are unreliable

@@workermannamrekrow2768his head was caved in . On the back side of his head .

its a very strange detail to add. people with personality disorders generally have a hard time shutting up, hey need to center their reality around them. i was a good friend and i took a polygraph test. i, i, i.

He was involved we do care if you were lovers, but you betrayed him you coward.

It’s probably because he’s gay & Noah said no, told him to stop with advances & if he didn’t Noah would make things public.. prompted Jack to become even more upset & angry maybe Jack also saw what was kindness to other men or even women as flirting/potential relationship started up by Noah which again fuelled him up. I just know serious jealousy & sexuality is definitely involved here… the lengths Jack went to… I mean it seems very deep & very personal but also very serious… things obviously made him extremely upset, angry, jealous, crazy, perhaps very insecure too.

someone is being protected!!! I guarantee that a law enforcement officer or a judge or city Councell member son or grandson is involved in this, This is why it is taking so long and there have been no arrest yet!!!

@@KellAdk76 there are a few white gangs in the US with rich parents. there is one that operates out of an Phoenix, Az suburb.

Sounds like he takes after his dad.

​@@jazzyg530 Totally agree with you!

His dad also got away with the murder of a 6 year old while driving a boat under the influence

Do you know him personally to say that?

And there is also another person who died from a ATV accident, just have to do a search and it's all there. ​@@brandyh8292

Even while wearing sunglasses, when someone cannot look you in the eye when talking means they are hiding something. He’s definitely hiding something.

That Jack kid is lying from A to Z. “I got bought into it because…” that’s not how you begin a sentence about your best friend’s death. Jack either knows what happened or his covering for the person that does.

@@Benno101able - Noah’s grandmother was interviewed yesterday by NewsNation and she mentioned Jack. The family *definitely* has not ruled out Jack’s involvement in whatever happened. Noah’s brother seems to be giving Jack the benefit of the doubt but the family is not.

@@derekadams3016 yeah I watched that interview with his grandma, my heart breaks for their entire family. I hope the truth whatever it looks like comes out in the end.

Super suspicious. He's super nervous. He should be more devastated than nervous. It's also really weird how he is so 100% positive that his friend was not beaten to death. The way he says it like he's trying to convince everyone of it. If he was genuine he would say something like "I don't think he was beaten to death but I can't be sure"

Oh yes!

Yes , I agree with you 100 percent!!! Of course he's hiding something!!!! Murder!!! And maybe the fact that him and Noah were more than best friends (like involved in some kind of homosexual relationship that nobody knew about) and the fact that he was jealous of Noah who was beginning to reject him for girls or quite possibly another guy!!!!

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Yeah,it is tellin what probably happened, all I can say is: He had his whole life in front of him, this is what I know to be fact, and somebody snatched it away from him.

Thank you…That was a really fast “no”…He is sketchy

Yup!!! Sus??

Yep

There is no evidence what-so-ever for this "jealousy motive". I don't know where or why that theory keeps surfacing. It's weird to me.

​@TheBerylknight you don't know jack shit about evidence from watching some news story's you seem biased

@@_J0N_TAFFER The people who are bias are those who keep pushing this "jealousy" motive without any basis. And yes, I do know about the evidence from watching news stories. Because that is the purpose of a news story, to tell you about the evidence.

All his best friends body language shows guilt and things he say don't add up,There was no semi truck driver at the scene of the crime

And it definitely doesn't fold them!

Your right and in most cases getting hit by a car can leave you with broken legs below the waist and apparently he wasn’t injured below his waist. He only had that head injury.

It could if it catches on something while you're dragging/tumbling. I'm just surprised the shoes stayed on if that happened.

@@mckricks1 in one of these stories they said that his clothes were folded up next to him.

@@noahkling4018 Yes I heard that too. But it wouldn't make sense for someone to do that if they were trying to cover things up. This story is not going in any clear direction yet.

* losing

You're not wrong!

Exactly.

After 7 months of being scrutinized, your focus shifts from grief to clearing your name.

The fact that he spun this tale about a semi when he claims to not have been there is all I need to hear, this guy did it or had a hand in it 100% you don't create a version of events and try to pass them off as facts if your innocent and going on and on about his poly test, he sure looks like he thinks that cleared his name, sorry but any1 can go on RU-vid and watch a 2 min video on how to easily pass a poly so...

Weird considering the police are not looking at it as a homicide

It seems something come to light. Yet. In my opinion it seems like MURDER...SOMETHING HAPPEN AT THAT PARTY BUT NO ONE WANTS TO ADMIT. IT OR TALK ABOUT IT. THE POLICE IS DRAGGING THEIR FEET AND MAYBE THEY ARENXT SAYING ITS MURDER. BUT AFTER I HEAR HOW HIS BODY WAS MULITATED IT DIDNXT SEEM LIKE A HIT AND RUN TO ME. BUT ILL WAIT AND SEE HOW IT ALL TURNS OUT BC IT JUST SEEMS SUSPICIOUS TO ME

My deepest sympathy to the family. My God provide you all Comfort and healing. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Best friend did it

@@coleforbes2059 The police are a bunch of idiots and that's exactly what those kids were counting on!!!!! Probably half of the police sons were involved too and that's why they are moving so slow to actually come out and say the words murder or homicide because most of their sons were at that same party!!!!!

Why?

This interview was 7 months later. People are different. Some are stoical the next day, others burst into tears years later.

Let's all face the facts , that Jack is lying about everything and he is involved in this murder all the way up to his neck!!!! And right now he is trying to cover up this entire crime by trying to make everybody believe that it was a traffic accident!!!! Traffic Accident my ass!!!!! He set Noah up to get a beating at this party by getting him so drunk that he couldn't fight back and then they all gave him the beating of his life ( they just didn't think that it was going to be the end of his life)!!!!!!

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@@williamvictorian1756That’s not a fact. If you say let’s face the facts, share some facts. Your speculation is nothing but such

Ya and if the polygraph went the other way you’d be all about it. Facts are facts

@@coleforbes2059Fact, something you know nothing about

Yea you don’t get hit by a car like that even at the tips of your fingers one legit side scapred an bruised he was stalled an drug there got that spot from where

@@Jay00780tell us the truth jay what happened bud

Agreed!

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Exactly. No emotion.

In all fairness this happened 7 months ago. I'm sure he's had some time to process. Do you expect him to be on the news crying? Plus, I'm sure he feels very relieved by passing the polygraph. Also, polygraphs are definitely not easy to trick. Although they aren't admissible in court, they are pretty reliable.

I am pretty sure Police have questioned him .

It's 7 months later. He's likely facing emotional fatigue especially from all the stress of being accused of being suspect. The saying "I can't cry anymore I don't have anymore tears left" is true. And when trauma is involved most people shut down emotionally. Imagine the shock of seeing your long time best friend dead on the road and then having people accuse you of being involved. His apparent lack of emotion also doesn't mean he isn't emotional & crying when he's out of the public eye. I generally don't/can't cry in front of people. All these armchair detectives are just guessing.

He is showing plenty of emotion here. He even chokes up at one point and nearly loses control. I would think a so-called "body language expert" would have been able to see that. And I'm sure he has already been questioned by the police for hours on end.

Yeah, but if you were streaking across the highway neatly folding your clothes and then leaving your shoes on could be evidence for that.

@@alanboody7004lol, where’s the semi driver then??

Very true about polys. If someone is nervous can throw it off and come across as not being truthful. Do you think if it was a semi that the driver would stop to fold Noah's shorts and place them near his body?

Yes it does, I witnessed a man who had just been hit by one and as he rolled underneath it his clothes were ripped off. It was horrific seeing that.

@@jaylehn4342dude chill out with this. You’ve posted it on every comment. That’s the definition of insane.

I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine. Sending you peace and love.

🙏🙏🙏

Make some noise for your friend, Noah deserves justice! The family bringing this to the public is a great start to put the pressure on LE! 7 months and counting and the family is left this much in the dark is infuriating! I pray that God stirs the souls of everyone involved, may they feel so unsettled that they come forward with the truth! 🙏

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​@@odinsgoddessvery well said.

Yeah he is quick to tell the truth. He has been treated like a suspect when he saw what happened to an extent.

" i have no idea what happened, i was not there, but it's a semi yeah " LMFAO you are doimed dude

Agree

I don’t think so I don’t think he would do a polygraph then

Bullshyt bullshyt bullshyt

Just because he passed a polygraph doesn’t mean he’s not lying. Polygraphs can be beaten.

​@@hutchinson54but would he agree to take one if he thought he might not pass? He would have had to been absolutely confident he would pass.

Wrong.

it does

Fetal position could be a natural reaction if he was in pain/fear. The folded up shorts a few feet away is unexplainable.

If he was hit by a semi, he would’ve been in pieces. Had a woman in my town hit by a log truck and it tore her up, they only had an arm and torso. The rest was ground up on the highway. 😔🥺😭

you have never seen an hit and run your shoes and sometimes socks will come off everything in your pockets will comeout and sometimes your clothes will not be on right depends on the speed and height of vehicle

I mean, it seems people are convinced him and the other party friends were all in on it or something, and so he's being attacked by a bunch of arm-chair detectives basing their OPINIONS on news reports by reporters who have had zero access to any evidence.

and the strange "theory" he has about a "semi hitting the top of his head" whatever that means.

Nah.

I agree completely cwith everything you said. It’s like you read my mind.

TRUTH!!!

There's evidence of road rash

​@@mckricks1cops have ruled out hit and run. So at most, he was possibly dragged (whether intentional or not) from inside or on top of some kind of motor vehicle. But his injuries are far worse than merely being dragged or even hit- which, like I said, the cops are saying DID NOT happen.

Not all people act the same after a death.

@@Youngerjay2009, the way his friend died was horrific and the best friend's reaction doesn't match with Noah's death. Jack knows what happened or at least has some idea. Jealousy is a common theme in young adults and high school incidents. It may have been a frenemie's jealousy if Noah was dating an ex or anything related to that scenerio. He was a good looking kid and it is so common for problems steming from jealousy in high school / young adults. 4 day drunk parties with young people, their brains haven't developed complete to think logically. Impulsivity is common in young people. The human brain doesn't completely develop until a person's mid to late twenties.

Maybe because the kid was over 6 feet and not some little kid and he probably was a decent kid so there would be no motive for anyone to do something to him. So the kid probably put two and two together and saw him on the side of the highway like a deer and thought someone didn’t see him at night.

@@winterseagullI agree it’s ridiculous how cruel these people are making false accusations against a kid and possibly risk him to delete himself. It’s outrageous morally corrupt adults

@@winterseagull I mean, think about it. Witch hunts were a real thing. Someone had to be punished for anything bad that happens. This is really how it goes about. Thankfully we now have laws against that, but people still have those impulses and a bloodlust for some kind of revenge even if they don't know WTF actually happened.

Exactly! He keeps saying he doesn’t know but is so quick to deny he was possibly beaten or something more

@@winterseagullHe made a judgement call? is he a forensic pathologist?

Best friend? I doubt it.

And his pants were folded up?

@@Michelles222exactly. None of this was an accident

@@HalfNHalf. I believe that. No way an accident.

Sounds like it to me too. Somebody is coverin up somethin. I know in my knower.

Very

And surely would of gotten the truck drivers license plate # and description!

@@susanlouise3640I mean I wasn’t there, but if it was my friend I would not have left their side until things were handled, his story doesn’t add up at all, I’m sure we will all hear the real story soon and it will be horrific. Such an attractive boy with future ahead of him, sadly all this probably happened bc of a girl more than one boy was interested in.

Everyone expects kids to know what to do in these situations! They don’t!

They sure know how to lie and make cover stories though​@@BlackSeranna

@terissawatkins6839 Amen🙏🙏🙏🙏

Yeah very odd. Seems like maybe the dad is covering up for him. Idk I mean if it was a hit and run why were his clothes off and his pants folded up odd.

Then they drive right to his location

@@RC-no3dr ...and start telling the emergency responders he was hit by a car, no doubt.

Polygraphs don't work and aren't allowed in court for that reason. Why was the interview edited a few times in the beginning when the friend was speaking? Why not let it run through without editing? Also, did the friend leave the party early and Noah stayed?

@BigElCat Where did that information come from? Link pls. I understood it to be a girls birthday party.

I didn't understand the part where he indicated the driver had one hand on Noah. Then he claims he and his father saw the body while going fishing. The footage was either poorly edited or the reporter failed to ask the appropriate questions.

The driver most likely would not have left if it was a stricking, if he knew. They have cameras on trucks. End of mystery.

One of the polygraph test questions should have been, "Were you angry that Noah did not want to be in a romantic relationship with you?" Another question should have been, "Were you willing to hurt Noah because he rejected your sexual advances?" The compulsive liar Jack would be in prison as long as the polygraph machine was operating properly.

@@kendrahansen1175 I don't believe homosexuality played a role in Noah's death; the underage drinking at the party, as well as the fact that they were slapping each other, most likely irritated someone. It's also possible that he was hit by a moving vehicle, either intentionally or not.

@@fanatik9590 It's obvious you know nothing about the situation but believe what you want. You are obviously far removed from this incident and the people involved.

everyone processes death differently

Wasn't it 3 weeks ago? Maybe he's done a lot of sobbing prior.

Exactly

​@Sunny-sc6pf too soon

He was found last September

His teeth probably fell out as he hit the pavement after the mirror scalped him and threw him. But that doesn't explain the folded up shorts. That's the only part I can't work into a hit by a truck scenario.

@@kellypatterson4412 What if he was streaking across the highway? He had shoes on still. That would explain why they were folded up.

@@alanboody7004would you stop with your streaking lol.

If he was hit and dragged they could’ve come off, but the brother said they were folded in n the side which is just strange too.

I wonder if he was swimming and the boat propeller hit his head and they put him along the road.

Right like all of a sudden they went fishing and saw the body of his friend killers always return to the site to get information

Apparently the father has been involved in a boating accident where a child was killed and his breath smelled of alcohol. Apparently he never faced charges even tho it was his boat. Another Newton family member apparently was involved in an atv death, where a man was chased by a group of teens, one of them being a Newton, and the man crashed the atv trying to escape and died. This is just what I’ve read on Reddit. It seems if this is true … the family knows how to use their money and power to get away with things.

Right ! That kid is a meat ball and lying through his teeth

He came across a scene. Body had already been discovered by highway patrol officer.

Obviously you didn't listen to the story

​@@tiktokmfr It doesn't matter that kid Jack is lying and he is definitely trying to cover up of what really happened at that party!!!! It was a beating that got out of control and they all had a hand in it including Jack!!!!!! A fishing trip !!!!! If you believe that story then I have a bridge out in the middle of the Arizona desert that you can buy for a nickel!!!!!

@@williamvictorian1756 did I say that I believed it?

I agree. And what is that bit about his father?!

​@@tobalinac6781 journalist says that jack told him was leaving to go fishing with his dad, and that he pulled over the side of the road when he saw the commotion.

YUP

@@nickieca that's not sus at all...🙄🙄

dismissive is a good description.

Exactly

A DNA test on Noah would answer everyone's questions........... and Jack would be in prison.

@@kendrahansen1175 Kendra, please, please go away.

@@DavidBaker-cx1ni She's telling truth. Why go away? What did the autopsy produce?

@@kendrahansen1175I agree with your theory. After seeing the interview (and being a gay man myself, I know the feeling of being denied an advance and having to be alone in the closet). I would never murder, but I’m not a sociopath. A sociopath would NOT be able to deal with the rejection and would take control in any way they could (I’m a clinical psychologist).

That’s why there is detectives

He was likely scalped by the side mirror. Knocked far enough to slide and get the gravel and road rash. In which case the truck might not have ever seen him or know he made contact. The injuries sound consistent with that, and he could have curled up in the fetal position in pain. Even the shoes could have gotten mixed up at the party. What doesn't make any sense is how his shorts under up folded up near by. 🤔

@@kellypatterson4412. Why do you keep saying, “under up”?

Right where's the driver. He left the scene of a crime. Should have a dashcam also

@@kellypatterson4412 What we do under the influence never makes much sense. It could be as the party goers were stripping, Noah wished to be neat as he proceeded down the highway. Your analysis has credibility which is not to say that family and others will have differing views. As you are aware, a substantial number of cases go unsolved.

​@@rubyoro0"Ended up" voice texted might turn into "under up..? 😬🤷‍♀️

you also know that with that many people at the party if they knew something someone would have talked by now.

​@@alanboody7004THIS! No group of teenagers are keeping quiet for this long.

He fell out of the truck bed, or he was drunk car surfing

@@tula1433 Another idea is that he was streaking. They said he had just his shoes on. Maybe him and another friend went streaking and some car nailed him. The other friend doesn't want to get in trouble so he's saying he doesn't know.

This is the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard

Should be on Dateline NBC.

@@craigmurphy1618 it should be EVERYWHERE!

This town is gonna be in the spotlight until they figure out what happened. If an investigation comes from outside the town, nobody gonna like that.

@@66skate I think this case and that DESERVES the spotlight to be on them because something's not right here so I feel it SHOULD be investigated by a different law enforcement agency or even the FBI! Whatever happened and whoever did it obviously has some "pull or influence" in town, that's the reason it's been sitting on the shelf for 9 months! I think the only way this case will be solved is if an outside agency takes it all because they have no loyalties to anyone there!

Please don't use quotation marks if you're not going to quote exactly what they said. Reporter said 'what have these last 7 months been like' and the boy said its obviously been been hard and "on top of everything" the people say things.

@@MoonlightAngel22 I hope he didnt kill his friend. I dont have a horse in the race.

@@DuaneHallinSD Just you wait...the truth will come out....

Once Jack finally realized that Noah was not going to be in a relationship with him, that was the end.

@@kendrahansen1175 Wouldnt surprise me at all that that could be the motive, especially after a 4 day party with drink and drugs.

this. his parents should not have allowed him to be interviewed....

@@9razzler9glad he did this is more than incriminating. This is a murder

​@Atrainsd lol what did he say that was incriminating? The kid could have been with other friends

why would anyone kill their best friend, that doesn't make sense. They were drunk and lost track of each other. They were party boys.

​@@Another_Story_From what I've read on here, Jack was always possessive and jealous of Noah.

Or to try to convince people it was an accident and his so called friend Jack had nothing to do with it.

Certainly, and more than one individuo, bring state and federal investigators, this is so not fair 🥹, my sincere condolences to his true friend and family 🙏❤️RIP🙏this very young man🙏

Maybe he was being held upside down off of the back of a pickup truck or was falling headfirst out of some vehicle?

They think that the mirror might have hit him.

Right👍❣️❣️❣️

I'm sure they have been including his father. He said all the suspicion surrounding him. There's a reason all the suspicions revolve around him and it's not just because they were good friends at one time. Criminals like to return to the scene of a crime and what kid after a wild party is then going to go fishing with his father. I believe there were kids at the party that gave info to the police and that's why he was asked to take a lie detector test.

Agreed

I'd be nervous too. They can give false positives. Apparently they can't actually be used as evidence in court.

I think a smart lawyer would tell him to shut his mouth and not say anything. He just made himself look guilty to a lot of people who had no idea who he was a month ago.

It's hard to say this but the truth sounds like it was a hit-and-run and he got caught up underneath whatever collided with him

⁠​⁠@@youwish378yep- vehicle hit him then his body went up underneath vehicle & he probably got dragged.

@@M_Samp I've been listening as everyone else has and it sounds like exactly what happened. 😩

probably was along with going under the vehicle to

@@youwish378 Him being naked other than shoes and his pants being folded could also point to the idea that he could have been streaking. Why leave your shoes on?

Maybe had nothing to do with anything specific to the party or any altercation happening at all, rather that he was hit by a vehicle in an odd way while walking on the road.

​​@@mckricks1 You don't really believe that do you? Noah was placed in the fetal position on the side of a road, his shorts were folded and placed near his body. He was not able to get himself into the fetal position because his neck and his back were broken in multiple places. He would have been paralyzed. He was murdered and placed where he was found.

Yup

Very

Incredibly suspicious. It’s like that Chris Watts interview

Why? That’s suspicious

@@Atrainsd its funny because the comment right below yours in the queue was "dude seems suspicious as hell". Its one of those, "can't win" situations so you're better off shutting up and not giving folks a name and a face to grasp onto. I mean look at the comments. Folks are gonna find him suspicious no matter what as long he does or doesn't do as it fits the narrative they have. its human nature to interpret things in a way that supports the story you want to tell. In the meantime, the police are continuing to work the case regardless of what the internet says. Idk who is innocent or who is guilty, but at least I admit that and aren't a crazy internet person who has no evidence and makes accusations based on limited knowledge and access to the case. All i do know and all any of us actually know, is something is sus in this case and police should continue to investigate. Anything beyond that is harmful speculation.

@@Atrainsd I didn't necessarily mean he shouldn't have talked about Noahs death but the way he was talking about it came across quite cold and you know how the internet will react

@@katieg4045 Speculation is what True Crime channels are all about. Police? This case occurred in Oklahoma. Jack is trying to do right on behalf of his best friend and publicity can serve that goal.

@@DavidBaker-cx1ni I get it - I do. My thing is just a lot of folks in the true crime community do a lot more than harmlessly speculate. they accuse. I'd also argue there's a different between harmless speculation and harmful speculation. There's a world of difference between "I think perhaps xyz happened" (harmless speculation) and "I'm a random person on the internet and I'm positive xyz happened and abc person definitely did it for 123 reasons" (accusation). perhaps my wording was poor, but you can see plenty of harmful speculations and actual accusations here in this comment section, and every comment section on any true crime video I watch. And it goes to the larger issue in our community, especially in recent years, the impact of false accusations on innocent folks lives is increasingly clear and alarming. We need to do a better job at toeing the line because if we don't, we're just creating more victims, in a different sense, of an already tragic situation. and that only brings more senseless pain. people forget that, comment section is full of it - so i'm trying to provide a reminder and bring some level of perspective. apologies for the length here! Just a lot of thoughts as I'm sick of seeing this stuff all the time and this is the first time I've expressed that frustration - thanks for bearing with me ! :)

The friend knows more so it couldnt have been that horrific for him.

​@@michealortiz3350Was Jack at the party do you think?

I hate to be "one of those" but he doesn't seem too shaken up about it..

@@Yonggbaekit’s been 7 months he took a polygraph he was investigated heavily right after the accident and was cleared stop trying to destroy his mental health.

@@michealortiz3350no he doesn’t you’re just cruel throwing heinous accusations on people who there is absolutely no evidence against he was cleared took a polygraph and told the truth. Just stop

You’re right!

That's scary. It's even scarier that I can see what you mean. Very good observation.

Exactly! Investigate Jack for sure.

Sometimes cops keep it quiet because they may have intel or know something but are waiting for the suspect to slip up. I mean that’s what I’ve seen on those crime docos

@@shivadizayin yeah but not in long-cold cases where they obviously failed to follow tips upl

One of the polygraph test questions should have been, "Were you angry that Noah did not want to be in a romantic relationship with you?" Another question should have been, "Were you willing to hurt Noah because he rejected your sexual advances?" The compulsive liar Jack would be in prison as long as the polygraph machine was operating properly.

@@kendrahansen1175do you know him personally? You seem to believe he tries this? It makes me question if you know them personally.

I think these two were hooking up and they got caught, maybe by the father. So now the son is protecting the father??? Idk. But based purely on the facts, I think the kid was doing gay stuff with someone, hence naked and having another male shoe on that wasn’t his

​@@TheIvyLensdoing gay stuff give you shredded fingertips?

​@@nunyabiznes33 oh for goodness sake thats was obviously from being assaulted after hooking up with the dude if that's the case. Use your brain.

I believe so. But that isn't the most damning detail. I have innocently slipped on a friend's shoe to go outside when I couldn't find mine. The rest of his state was more of a red flag. He was clearly beat badly and then dragged at least a bit for there to be damages to his fingers and asphalt under his nails like there was.

His head would be gone if it was a semi truck.Does anyone know why he would be walking naked on the road?

​@@twinky4839yep

it seems like a strange false narrative he's trying to create for the injury.

A mirror

He def was car surfing and fell. They were all drunk and panicked

Yup.