BetaFlight Rate Settings - For new and intermediate pilots 

This is a terrific explanation of rates. I've watched so many, and this was the clearest explanation I've seen

Every day is a new day of learning something new & for some, redefining answers (some simpler & some more complex) but with the outcome being that of answers / knowledge which is shared from one individual to the next. Now. .. As with this particular section & defining it in a manner for one to grasp with an understand of it (meaning of the mechanical function in layman's terms) you did a "Fabulous Job". With so many people new to this hobby & for some that just want a simple answer (we've all been there, right) that's straight to the point minus the theory / concept added. It's the cliffs notes version that many seek for. Keep it up buddy.

Thanks for the great info, I've just finished a great pid tuning experience with Mr Bardwells advice, I then moved onto rates with your advice and tried out your settings from the description, I love the zippy mellow feel it gives my zmr250, I know I need to season to taste but man what a great place to start. Thanks very much.

Thank you for making this video, this explanation on what rates do is what I've been looking for , you are the only one talking about rates in detail everybody else literally flyby them like they don't matter, sometimes I feel like some guys don't want to reveal their secrets. Thank you.

Thank you for this explanation. it makes perfect sense now. I've amended curves with the TX before and it seems to make more sense the way you explained it. Thanks

Very nice explanation :) I figured out all the differences between RC Rate, Super Rate & RC Expo, while trying to change the values and feel how the copter was flying after! Pretty cool stuff! Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend

Great explanation of these three settings. Thanks for the video and Happy Flying!

This made Rates easy to understand. Watched many videos about it but this one was most helpful. Thanks

I have never really played much with my settings, but i followed this video and felt confident enough to give it a go ... i didnt go as high with the rc rates but it has made a diference and i can flip and roll even quiker now :) thank you

I'm new to Betaflight and your video gave me all the info that i needed to know, Thank you.

Fantastic! Loved your approach for getting faster Yaw. I'd been stuck in the mindset of using the same Super on all and just increasing Yaw's RC Rate to get it faster.

That's very helpful. understanding what the graphs do an mean is already a good first step for a newbie like me

excellent! to an intermediate pilot..this explains things really well. will experiment more with these areas. cheers dude!

This video is extremely informative, definitely going to subscribe and drop a like!

short, simple and to the point, thank you for your time.

great job bro. you just cleared up soo much for me.

Brilliant explanation! Thanks for posting this it's a huge help!

I like that you concentrated on Rates. IMO it is not discussed enough. Great Job!

This video is great, short and easy to follow.

great explanation. helps me out a lot undestanding the settings. thanks for the video.

Great explanation! I had to leave the hobby for over a year... coming back and seeing the evolution of rates made what was simple before - exceptionally confusing. It took me a while just to get a handle on all the new bells and whistles, but your explanation here really drives it home.

Very good explanation. I also found that setting lower rates for new pilots is not necessarily the best approach. I started with the wizard and flew stock pids and rates for many months. Watched various videos on tuning and setting rates. It took what seemed like forever but wow what a difference when you do finally get it locked in. I was still not certain of exactly what the super rates and expo do but this cleared things up.

great info here - I have been flying for a while and transitioned to pinching a few months ago - I could never figure out what was happening with my yaw - it never seemed coordinated - you made my day!!! now i can fly acro LOS so much better and feel way more in tune in FPV thank you

I just switched from using lots of RC Expo to the rates in the description and man, it's a huge difference. I kept oversteering on quick moves and now it feels much better.

Wow! I just transitioned from Spektrum Dx6 to Taranis, and you perfectly described my problem with the yaw control:) I pinch also, and the range of movement of the throttle/yaw stick is large relative to my Spektrum, so I struggle with the larger range and suffer terrible yaw control when at a low throttle position, like during tight races gates...totally makes me feel like a noob pilot, and demotivating. But, I upped the Yaw RC rate yesterday, and had one flight...felt better, but about to go test again

Thanks for the explanation! Had to watch this again bcuz I’ve been away from the fpv too long lol.

Good video, thanks. Certainly got me thinking that I should spend more time on this.

This was great for getting rates, I can't understand why you have any dislikes. It made perfect sense and I'm using BF 10.7 , If your going to make another video just make a part 2 as an update.

Jonathan Edradan2 weeks ago I subscribe because of the content of this channel. This is another example why I keep coming back. Well done. Now please release your new frame :) Couldn't say it better! Thanks

Interesting to see how others set their RCrate etc. Mine are very different to yours. Recently I have been experimenting with RCrate's around 70-80 and Super rate's 90-80 feels good. I think it's also worth mentioning Rate profiles and how important is is to have a 3 position switch set up so you can switch in the field. This is essential for finding the right balance.

great video bro helped me big time thnks alot all the best to you from glasgow good job

Great video, explained well. Thank you

God I wish I'd subscribed to this channel sooner you explain things that a lot of novices like myself can understand keep up the good work matey need to watch some more of your videos now can see it being a late nite lol 👍

thanks, super helpful for starting out.

Great job. I bought a preowned tinyhawk that has crazy rates (project mockingbird). I am just trying to start slow and looking for the most easiest rates for now.

Seeing this in 2020 and still so useful!

Thanks for the info, ive been flying for a year now and never had to tune a quad. they were all bnf, but I got a dys board and the rates were super slow I had to hold the stick forever to roll, about to go out to the field and see what improvements were maid.

Great explanation! Thank you!

Nice explanation in decent amount of time. 🤜

All the way i have been wondering why my yaw response is not as good as roll.. your idea of making yaw rate > 2 greatly helped me to take coordinated turns in the first place. Thank you.

Thanks I hope this helps me out!

bob you're awesome. Yet another video I can pass around.

thank you, you fixed my yaw issue

Dude, this really helped!

Very well explained dude.

everyone should now understand rates with this video, thanks

Thank you for this video bro 👊

Wow very helpful video! Appreciate it! Got my subscription and like!

although I love my rates now, I wish I had this info when I started. Settings up good rates is way more important than fine tuning PIDs when you're learning. I spent weekends messing with PIDs trying to get the quad to feel "on rails" but I gained a lot more control and confidence in flying after getting rates that worked for my brain as you said.

Thanks for this - it really helped. One question - any advice for throttle curve?

Hello from Russia, Thank you very good video. Thank you very much for your personal settings. Very helped to fly became much more supple and easier.

I think I am loving the skewers even more than the content itself :P Could use some peppers man, just meat and mushrooms?! ;)

Thanks for that! It was realy helpfull vor me!

Thanks so much for this video. It made me fly a lot better. These rates made a big difference for me. Which rates do you recommend for someone still pretty new?

Just tried your pids and rates, ‘‘twas a superb flight. 🤟

Very helpful. Thanks!

thankyou, i found this video very helpful!

HI, i'm a new pilot and i learn a lot from your videos. I need an advice from you guys. At the begening, flying acro is like 'How to waste your money as fast as you can' Crash after crash. (Indoor cause i start to learn flying at the beginning of winter). So i quickly switch from acro to angle mode. Got a lot of fun in angle but a little voice in me say 'you learn bad habits'... Did i waste my time by learning angle mode at the begening ? Should i go acro right now or my learning curve is dead ? :) I cant wait for summer ! love that hobby any tips are welcome.

Finally those PID things make sense to me xD thanks m8 ^^

Hey, been watching your channel for a while, ive learned alot, thank you. I wanted to ask where did you get those rubber ends for your sticks? Or is it something you diy?

nice video and now I have a better understanding of what those settings do... :-)

Greatly Appreciated...

hotprops simulator has betaflight and raceflight rate settings so you can test them out now.

I have just come to the sport, and out of the 3 or 4 videos I've watched on this subject yours is the most understandable. Thanks for helping to clear this up a bit for me!

thanks hoping the above rates will allow me to learn to fly a bit quicker and without crashes so much. Was using default settings now for two months. Really didn't like the feel of my alien 5 " frame.

My name has s Kabab, and you're going to learn something today.... lol. Great job explaining- I need help with my tunes- you gave me a clearer understanding of what I need to do- thanks

Nice job, thank you

Many Thanks!

really helpful, thanks

I have same issue with yaw/rotation (8:46). Hopefully this will do the trick. Thanks for the tips

Hey, what is that on your sticks? Is that like a tacky rubber? Seems like a great idea. Never seen them before. I am always slipping off my sticks. I have never touched my rates or pids. But I just started doing flips, rolls, loops, and dives with stock Betaflight settings. Now I understand what you mean when you say that your rates dont match what your brain anticipates. I dont want to develop any bad habits by compensating for bad rates, but Im definately scared to touch these settings. I do not like rc expo. But I want faster pitch and roll rates. Should I increase the deg per sec or add super rate?

Great video. Thanks. Is there a compelling reason to set rates on the flight controller vs the transmitter? Most transmitters allow fairly complex functions. You can precalculate super rate and send to the aircraft (which would just have linear rates).

good explanation, and great run through. just a side note, the max degrees per second have to do with how many times your quad will flip "per second". I think, for example, and I could be slightly off, but 1600 degrees per second is 4.6 flips or rolls per 1.6 seconds, or something to that affect. there's a conversion rate somewhere, but that's basically what it is. I try to keep mine at around 1526ish. good and informative video man!

This clearly explains the "swish" in Kabab's flying...sorry for the corny pun but I had to do it...just saying. Good instruction video with great detail and without techno overkill. Not saying "techno" is bad just getting to the gist of it is simply awesome.

finally i found treasure.. :-) its work.. thanks....

not sure if I asked you this one, but so your saying when start off tuning, use stock pids, so we are to tune the rates first? and would you do it the same way with a smaller quad like the new 1s your been presenting? or mess w PIDS first?

Do you have a video showing why you set your pid rates to what they are now Cheers Nice vid

The yaw thing gets me too. I prefer shorter movements for yaw and full range for roll.

Thanks, Very instructive. Would you mind to share your knowledge about quad design? What software, what has worked for you, how do you began with the topic? That would be very interesting. Thanks for sharing and keep it up

Great explanation, makes sense 👍🏻 many thanks! Would love to see video about recommended rates for the amateurs )))

Awesome, good info. Where did you get those stick ends for your taranis? Are they rubber? They look nice and sticky but comfy too...

Hi Kabab. This was awesome. What a great contribution for those of us who are beginning the arduous task of mitigating the learning "curve" lol. Would you mind commenting on Angle/Horizon? Specifically, what is the purpose of "Strength" and "Transition"? Also, what is "Angle Limit" and "Sensitivity"? Thanks again. - snaks

Thank you !!

Hi! It is possible to set controller rates in the LiftOff simulator. I am beginner so I use it to learn/practice FPV. Does it make sense to experience the rates in the simulator, than set the rates on drone? What do You think?

Great video! My drone likes to wobble when I’m in Angle mode. I know to fix it you need to lower the P level in PID. The issue is that I can not find that. Any help? Thanks

Thank you!

Awesome video!! Is this only for acro mode? Or does it change the rates for my angle and horizon modes as well?

Great video new sub and like

Thanks dude

well done, but this newbie understands exactly what you said. you explained it well.

i know this vid is old but i just watched all the newer ones. question! is there a way to modulate or adjust your throttle in the new betaflight 3.0 or 3.1? i know on cleanflight there was.. but i know throttle management, but sometimes when i try to slow way down and fly under low laying objects i tend to overreact. so it would be nice to adjust or tune the throttle. could just be this damn spektrum radio... lol thanks in advance!

mate.. i wish I've have seen this video before pretending to know how to fly a fpv quad lol.. nice thanks! it was too over sensitive in the middle, didn't like that! I'm gonna try tonight

u say is hard to know how its affecting the quad, but, u can see the quad on betafight in real time moving right? does that not show you how its responding?

You are nearly there with setpoint transition but it actually affects the D-term setpoint as you return the stick to zero, not at the end of the stick movement. So, an example. If you do a single barrel roll. As you push the stick in the direction of the roll, and the Setpoint weight is at zero, it will be very smooth, and the higher the setpoint is, the more snappy or 'accelerated' the response (as you mention). Now as you finish the roll and bring the stick back to centre this is where Setpoint transition comes into play. If setpoint transition is set to 1.0 the accelerating effect described above will be the same as it was going into the roll. The lower you drop the setpoint transition the more the returning of the stick to zero smooths out the quad motion and reduces that accelerating effect.The idea is that you can have a very snappy response going into the roll but as you come out of the roll the response is much smoother, leading to nicer smooth skitzo style moves. It is also great as it helps with bounce back at the end of the move as the airframes rate of rotation is smoothly reduced rather than stopped abruptly. Make sense? It is a really tricky one to describe. The wiki states: Dterm setpoint: 0 = Measurement (smooth), 1 = error (sharp and responsive). Everything above 1 is more error / more stick derivative. 2 = 2 times error. The second slider is setpoint transition. When going into the roll its error and when returning from roll back to center stick it will be transitioned more into measurement to smooth it out. Here it means D setpoint transition of 1 means no transition at all. Its fully error from setpoint weight. When lower than 1 it will soften the transition on returning stick slowly to measurement. For example if you liked the smoothness of measurement on quick stick inputs etc, but you also like the responsitivity of error, which makes it more robotic than you can find a middle way now. Still high stick response, but without losing the smoothness on stick returns

thanks man

Finally a decent explanation

I know you don't normally do the "how to" type videos, but if you could just point me in the right direction... I'm a bit new to Betaflight and trying to setup my Floss (Hyperlite F4, Spedix 4-in-1, FrySky XM+. I don't know what do configure on the Ports tab, and I'm getting no RSSI reading on my Taranis. I was able to bind it and fly it successfully, so I guess I'm just missing some steps that allow the Rx to fully talk to the radio. Also, do these components support OSD? Thanks Bob

Thank you gust subscribed

Never really understood the rates till now... As a new flyer shit just got real... Changing everything on my Quad now...

+1👍 thank you; i'd be interested in a revisit with the xLite since it has short throw.