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Today to me these 3 circumstances change the course of basketball history in their own ways, and opened the doors for some great things to come out of it, along with some unfortunate ones as well. Imagine the history change had the Spurs drafted Keith Van Horn 1st overall instead of Tim Duncan. Would Van Horn have fit great in the Spurs system under Greg Pop, perfectly mixed with David Robinson as a stretch wing, also great fit culture wise much better than that in New Jersey. Imagine Tim Duncan in the New York market instead, and how that may have changed his stride, Duncan’s career history to have been placed on a bad team that made the playoffs only twice in Van Horn’s tenure. Or if Joe Smith never get caught taking under the table deals and causing the team to be stripped of important draft picks that could’ve helped Kevin Garnett’s career in its prime. And who can forget arguably the biggest circumstance of all, Kobe Bryant falling into the Lakers lap, and how many teams could’ve had the second greatest shooting guard of all time, superstar of all superstars and legend. Let’s explore 3 of what’s to me some of the biggest what ifs of the 90s. BIGGEST NBA What Ifs of The 1990s (Circumstance) Growth
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@stuntedgrowth
@stuntedgrowth Год назад
Always wondered if Kobe's career would've been better or worse or the same pretty much, had he stayed with Charlotte on draft night.
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
Way different. We're talking about the Lakers.
@gilbertbrown4183
@gilbertbrown4183 Год назад
Probably something like a erratic Vince Carter early in his career. Charlotte Hornets didn't have a winning culture so Bryant would have probably left free agency. Playing for stats and not winning. Who in your top 10 all-time?
@neilbryanbucsit197
@neilbryanbucsit197 Год назад
Same with Curry going to the wolves people most people doesn't remember but Steph is very injury prone early in his career
@akeme25
@akeme25 Год назад
He’d have still been a superstar. With his work ethic, there’s no way he wouldn’t have. He just wouldn’t have had as much team success. At least unless they’d still end up getting Baron Davis and Jamal Mashburn, then maybe would have made a little bit of noise.
@ikemason9114
@ikemason9114 Год назад
What if the Washington Wizards never gave up on Rasheed Wallace, Ben Wallace, Rip Hamilton to help the Pistons get some chips during the 2000's and they traded Chris Webber in his prime to Sacramento for old ass broken ran down Mitch I can chuck 3's and hurt my knees Richmond and Michael I can't score over 13pts Smith
@constablekennedy7705
@constablekennedy7705 Год назад
Still Crazy to think that Kobe Bryant is No Longer here🏀
@NCOMBHOODIE
@NCOMBHOODIE Год назад
yeah that’s crazy . LLKB 💜💛
@ShaunTheNavigator
@ShaunTheNavigator Год назад
Man... No cap 🧢
@guru_basketball_kiero
@guru_basketball_kiero Год назад
#GuruBasketballKieroSays Seriously.
@jeronedavis165
@jeronedavis165 Год назад
I say that once a day
@L92185
@L92185 Год назад
@@jeronedavis165 me too
@camerenrandi
@camerenrandi Год назад
Remember now, the 76ers had the number 2 pick in 1997. If Van Horn goes to the Spurs, Duncan would go to Philly and he doesn't get traded to the Nets.....Now Philly would have Iverson and Duncan. That would've been extremely interesting
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
Sure would have been. But I don't see even Duncan stopping Iverson's ball hogging.
@algorhythm83
@algorhythm83 Год назад
I was about to post the same thing. I do not believe ball hogging would have been an issue because Iverson would have realized Duncan's talent from the start.
@johndavis9321
@johndavis9321 11 месяцев назад
​@@algorhythm83I doubt seeing Duncan could play would have stopped Iverson from ball hoggin live ivo dude is an NBA and basketball legend... But let's be honest dude was also a collosal shot jacker
@algorhythm83
@algorhythm83 11 месяцев назад
@@johndavis9321 I believe it would have been a good inside/outside match. Iverson worked with an older Chris Webber. I believe he would have done damage with a younger Tim Duncan. Remember they got Theo Ratliff which turned into Mutumbo. Imagine that front court. Hey, the world will never know.
@TTJJCC
@TTJJCC Год назад
Duncan would've been the #1 pick regardless who was picking.
@SonnyK248
@SonnyK248 Год назад
If Kobe hadn’t had that pre draft workout in LA then he probably wouldn’t have ended up in Charlotte. He’d have gone higher. The story went that after speaking to West, Kobe was determined to get to LA and put the word out that any team that drafted him and didn’t trade him there wouldn’t get him. He was threatening to go play in Italy if he didn’t go to LA. So Charlotte drafted because they wanted Divac.
@gilbertbrown4183
@gilbertbrown4183 Год назад
The Houston Rockets could have had Jordan, Olajuwon and Drexler on the same team. If Len Bias wouldn't have passed away, playing with Bird, McHale, Parish, Dennis Johnson. Carmelo getting drafted by the Detroit Pistons.
@marqueswilliams345
@marqueswilliams345 Год назад
Wow I didn’t know Sam Perkins was drafted ahead of Charles Barkley
@josephblue878
@josephblue878 Год назад
your content is steadily improving , salute to you
@IronTorch20
@IronTorch20 Год назад
Robinson being there to mentor Duncan was definitely helpful. I don't agree, Duncan was the slam dunk (pun intended) number one pick at the time, where the Celtics and other teams were straight tanking for him. Minnesota getting caught trying to skirt the cap was a real bizarre story. KG was on his way with Marbury, he needed another shooter or point guard. As for Kobe, him staying in Charlotte could've had a huge ripple effect, the Hornets probably never leave for New Orleans, we don't know if Phil Jackson goes to Charlotte, since the Triangle was well catered towards Shaq and Kobe.
@ikemason9114
@ikemason9114 Год назад
You should do a Stunted Franchise series starting with the Washington Wizards no championships for 43 years after this season 44 years
@willclinton468
@willclinton468 Год назад
Us from Jersey ate still mad about Kobe..Coach Cal was gonna take him at 9 but Kobe made ot clear he didnt want to play for NJ
@subymanvince
@subymanvince 11 месяцев назад
Also, Kobe had refused to play for the Hornets. That was a large part of what happened. The Hornets made that trade for that reason as well.
@jonathangreaves8785
@jonathangreaves8785 Год назад
Could you do Rodney stuckey? A bucket in college, went to detroit and never really put it together
@izz1540
@izz1540 Год назад
Love ya videos bro keep ‘em coming!!!pause!
@skiprockjr.6881
@skiprockjr.6881 Год назад
RIP Drazen
@demetresblakley1352
@demetresblakley1352 Год назад
What the Hornets was thinking😤
@connormacleod1490
@connormacleod1490 Год назад
You got to wonder what if the Wolves did not trade Ray Allen to the Bucks after getting drafted by them.
@furrellpiere8930
@furrellpiere8930 Год назад
90s...last time you saw meaningful defense actually being played 😅😂and not all the damn 3s
@G-TV_TheOneManArmy
@G-TV_TheOneManArmy Год назад
The 2000s had the deadball era and lowest scoring defense was really prevalent during that time
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
Tell me about it!!! Ugh, it just up and disappeared.
@demetresblakley1352
@demetresblakley1352 Год назад
96 and 2003 was the 2 best draft class thus far!!
@shakenblake4533
@shakenblake4533 Год назад
What about 84?
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
​@@shakenblake4533Right
@unappealingundesirable2826
@unappealingundesirable2826 3 месяца назад
In 1998-99, I did my "50 All Time Worst NBA Players," and "Franchise Nightmare Team" for each team. Here are some comments from my friends: "Oh come on, you have to take Tracy McGrady off of your all-time worst team." And, they disagreed when I also put Antoine Carr, John Battle, Tyrone Corbin, Frank Johnson, Dana Barros and Terry Teagle on my All-Time Worst List.
@inhop2443
@inhop2443 Год назад
Bryant refused to play in Charlotte. That's not on the Hornets, surely?
@patrik32
@patrik32 11 месяцев назад
I love your content, but honestly Duncan was a sure pick at first, the second pick was a questionable thing... I was reading ton of basketball magazines and it was going to be the DUNCAN pick ( in this thinking it fails, if you go that way that What if Nets won the 1st pick it can be) Joe Smith- never understood why to get Smith who played the same position like KG, not going for a shooting guard or a real small forward or Center. I'm more curious if he stays on GSW for that 80million dollar deal, would he become an all-star? Getting better as a first option? Kobe- for this as well you need to check the draft period, all knew he has talent but was like a prospect (as he was in real time), he told the teams which teams he would play for, for many he said he would go to play in Italy... Hornets got Vlade, while the Cavs drafted Potapenko... I think he would have been similar to AI, as an individualist who never pass, a bit similar to early Jordan.
@normanrodriguez6670
@normanrodriguez6670 Год назад
One that would be good is Dennis Scott. Was a great sharpshooter for Orlando then fell off the face of the Earth.
@bradleystraley6165
@bradleystraley6165 9 месяцев назад
Duncan was a Wembanyama level lock for the #1 pick. Kinda feel that's a silly "what if". If you had said "What if San Antonio hadnt gotten the first pick?" It would have made more sense
@qceaz11
@qceaz11 Год назад
No Disrespect To Bubba Chuck, But Philly Said Had Duncan Came Out In 96 They Would've Took Him So 97 Was A No Brainer That He Was Goin #1
@alfonsosan32
@alfonsosan32 Год назад
Could you make one about Franklin Jackson
@brandonmuse5532
@brandonmuse5532 Год назад
Great
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
What if the Sonics wouldve paid Shawn Kemp what he deserved after taking the sonics, along with Gary Payton, to the finals...or what if Chicago wouldve traded Pippen for Kemp...
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
🤔Maybe he would be on his way to a chip but I wonder if that would have stopped the drinking too?🤷‍♀️
@troystephens5735
@troystephens5735 10 месяцев назад
Trading vlade for Kobe is the equivalent of, the 76ers thinking that offering Dr.J for Jordan was a fair deal 😂.
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
Whatchu mean David Robinson wasnt athletic, that dude was fit as hell
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
He was fit, yes, but athletic....maybe not as much. I think he was talking more about his range of motion and flexibility to do more creatively....kind of like his teammate Duncan.
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
@@TheRetroWoman80 lol um David Robinson was more agile than Duncan
@flameu22
@flameu22 Год назад
Rodrigue Beaubois, Francisco Garcia, Shawn Williams
@itz-luigi1210
@itz-luigi1210 Год назад
There was never a question, TD was going to be the #1 pick. The van horn thing is a reach
@mickeylee2624
@mickeylee2624 Год назад
Really great points! I would add that the Duncan-Van Horn switch would have prevented the current false narrative of TD being a PF because even with his entire career in San Antonio, he played more seasons as a Center. Had he been drafted by the Nets, he likely would have been a Center his entire career without having Robinson to do the dirty work dealing with the physically demanding opponents like Shaq. The Kobe one is interesting because had Charlotte kept him, he may have gotten closer to MJ from a statistical perspective, being in the historically weak Leastern Conference era. However, it also would have prevented the NBA to push the Lakers over the Jailblazers and Kings without such an obvious power pairing with Shaq (who may have ended his career with only 1 or 2 titles). In fact, San Antonio may have won another title as well as Portland and Sacramento each taking one. KG, as with Juwan Howard, is partly to blame for the Joe Smith scandal because they started the insane $100+ million contracts that kneecapped their respective team's salary cap. Certainly, he is entitled to earning as much pay as possible, but had he taken a small discount to legitimately attract free agents, Smith/McHale/T-Wolves management would have not cheated.
@savel-oe3lx
@savel-oe3lx Год назад
Who goes under da table fa Joe Smith who was aight as Dubs rookie but not no franchise change cat
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
I agree. He peaked at Maryland and coasted in the NBA.
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
Nobody cared about kg in minnesota while there was barkley malone and kemp
@spurguvitunhuora9119
@spurguvitunhuora9119 Год назад
In my mind, biggest what if of the 90s, is what if cold war didnt keep Sabonis from arriving to Portland before Blazers made the finals. Maybe Bulls cant compete against a dominant center and Jordan retires with... lets say two rings?
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
Maybe. That's an interesting thought because the Bulls had centers but they were never dominant, not even Luc Longley when he was at his best. What made the Bulls the dynasty they became were their guards. But Portland had great ones too and Sabonis would have meshed perfect with them.
@heavybrandpodcast
@heavybrandpodcast Год назад
Just watched a new channel (Upthescore) where some dude was trying too hard to sound like stunted growth 🤦🏿‍♂️ 😂
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
Can't stop clonage, unfortunately🤷‍♀️ And I have witnessed certain channels start out with one energy/focus and the gradually bite off another's game to increase subscribers. Highly inauthentic.
@slobberkissintl3548
@slobberkissintl3548 11 месяцев назад
I just looked at the KG one today. Minnesota was a playoff team every year they lost a pick and the #1 seed in 2004. They got their picks back in 2003 (Ndudi Ebi at #26) and 2005 (Rashad McCants at #14). 2001 they could have taken Tony Parker but realistically they had Terrell Brandon and Chauncey Billips and they probably would have taken Brendan Haywood. He was aite 2002 i think best case scenario is they take Tayshaun Prince but I don't know if he helps them as much as that hurts Detroit who is in another conference and helps the Lakers who probably could have beat MN with Tayshaun and surely would beaten Indiana again who might've gotten past a Detroit team without Tayshaun, remember the clutch block on Reggie Miller. 2004 they were #1 in the west and could have got Anderson Varejão. Yawn. So it wasn't really that big of a deal. It's like, imagine if the 90s Bulls lost all their draft picks. As for trading the picks, they were all in the 20s until 2005 so I don't think they would have got much. Minnesota and KG just didn't get it done. But in fairness, it was a brutal stretch for a western conference team to try to grow into a contender. If anything, you could say, that since the penalty didn't matter, they should have cheated for a more impactful player. Like they should have got Sprewell in 99 or something And the Kobe one... Kobe wanted to go to LA. That Charlotte traded him is not dumb. The dumb thing is that they got Vlade Divac and like three teams ahead of Charlotte took centers who weren't half as good as Vlade Divac. Like if you're going to take a shitty center and hope for the best, just take Kobe and trade him for Vlade Divac who went to the Finals with Magic Johnson and clearly knows a thing or two about basketball. Clippers, Dallas, Indiana, Golden State... get smarter guys 😆
@Jonathanfifer00
@Jonathanfifer00 Год назад
Hornets still making bonehead pics til this day 😂
@gt-gu7rb
@gt-gu7rb Год назад
Who the hell would take Van Horn over Duncan?
@g-luvbeans7799
@g-luvbeans7799 Год назад
U don’t think Jordon in a different script won’t b MJ? Stop! Love ur videos brother! Do u !!!!
@testimonyofthelamb583
@testimonyofthelamb583 Год назад
U gotta be crazy if dnt see sports entertainment isn't scripted smh 🤦🏾‍♂️
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
It's not wwf 😆 wwe
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
True. This whole planet is.
@MrJbee73
@MrJbee73 Год назад
Oh there are scripts.
@jaysonmahaguay5888
@jaysonmahaguay5888 20 дней назад
I don't think the Spurs will be successful with Keith Van Horn, David Robinson is not as he used to be,maybe still a playoff team but not as championship contender, and so Tim Duncan will not taste the success if he played in New Jersey
@g-luvbeans7799
@g-luvbeans7799 Год назад
Percy harvin
@shedrickpruitt4175
@shedrickpruitt4175 Год назад
KG n Duncan stat wise had the same career. Imagine them switching career paths. Would Duncan have the same success or would KG thrive with Pop?
@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@user-oi1iq6tt4j Год назад
And having David Robinson
@NabateIsles
@NabateIsles Год назад
KG was amazing but NOT a Top-10 All-Time Great!
@jessearias2863
@jessearias2863 Год назад
No jc as I have told you I am a life long lakers fan the only place kobe could be is the lakers. He was made to take magic Johnson s place as the next greatest leader in team history.
@theloniushatch9989
@theloniushatch9989 Год назад
Carl Wright smu
@mieakamoore7825
@mieakamoore7825 Год назад
In what world was Van Horn going to be picked over Duncan?
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
Lol, I hear you. Van Horn's game was beast but it was probably because Utah's conference was not challenging like the ACC nor did Van Horn necessarily carry Utah the way Duncan's presence seemed to with Wake Forest.
@mieakamoore7825
@mieakamoore7825 Год назад
@TheRetroWoman80 Duncan could anchor an offense and defense. Van Horn was never asked for anchor a defense in college or the NBA....I think his NBA ceiling was 3rd best player on a championship team.
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
@@mieakamoore7825 Agreed.
@savel-oe3lx
@savel-oe3lx Год назад
How does GSW pick Joe Smith over McDyess n KG
@tayfattz2272
@tayfattz2272 Год назад
Joe Smith was a beast at Maryland.
@yunsukoh8602
@yunsukoh8602 Год назад
What if Melo went to Pistons..
@kennyk9579
@kennyk9579 Год назад
Great video as always, but I definitely can’t agree with KG being a top-10 all-time great.
@TTJJCC
@TTJJCC Год назад
What family baggage did Kobe have on his name?
@TheRetroWoman80
@TheRetroWoman80 Год назад
I thought about that too. Didn't his family drama happen a few years into the league when he started going out with Vanessa?
@death2denemy
@death2denemy Год назад
Garnett is not a top 10 all time great.. Who u taking out the top ten to put garnett in?!?
@RandomShapeless
@RandomShapeless Год назад
Bruh. This is reaching.
@SwitchB
@SwitchB Год назад
KG is and never was considered a top 10 player.
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
K. Bryant, M. Jordan, E. Johnson, L. Bird, L. James, B. Russell, W. Chamberlin, K. Jabar, S. O'Neil. Who would you add to this list?
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
We are already up to 9.
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
O. Robinson has the numbers. But does not pass my "eye test".
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
H. Olajuwon was as good as these guys.
@davidnadel6145
@davidnadel6145 Год назад
For the 10th spot options: Barkley / Curry / Erving / Ewing / Olajuwan / Malone / Stockton / Duncan / Garnett / Robertson / Wilkins / I. Thomas / Cousy / McAdoo / Durant / Robinson
@georgeschneider9751
@georgeschneider9751 Год назад
I forgot about Dr. J. That is 10.
@elichisley3031
@elichisley3031 Год назад
KG top 25 not top 10-15
@voodooking9056
@voodooking9056 Год назад
Tim Duncan is a top 10 boring player
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