"BORN BEFORE the BIG BANG" Scientists For the First Time Discover Stars Way Older than the Universe 

Can’t say something is older than big bang when we don’t even know for sure if there was really a big bang to start with..

It's all an optical illusion based on our small perception of the entire universe.

It was long speculated that if we went to the edge of the universe, we'd see, more universe. I'm not surprised.

Scientific knowledge advances by a series of very accurate errors.

Science may never find the age of the Universe!

I read that the closer to a perfect vacuum, the more "stuff" jumps out from that spot. If true then, as particles consolidate, they creates "holes", which generate "stuff". How do you track this? Eventually, when enough mass has accumulated, it ignites, but eventually explodes, and its particles repeat the process. Again, how do you track this? Was there ever one big bang?

Remember.."Follow the science". Yeah..maybe these discoveries will bring a lot of scientists back down to Earth.. to realize they are researchers and they're not done learning. Amazing times we live in.

26.7 billion years is probably also short. I realized the universe had to be at least twice as old when Webb showed those "early" galaxies. My rough estimate for the universe is 27.6 billion years. (13.8 x 2). The Big Bang is a recurring event and it has happened at least twice.

I really think they are missing the concept that time was constant during the beginning of the universe. What if time was actually expanding too

If the light from that Galaxy started 14 billion light years away, right after the big bang....how did it get there?

PLZ STANDARD DYNAMICS FOR STATIC

It doesn't matter how much past you accumulate, there will always be more future.

I’m leery of Penzias and Wilson’s conclusion.

All good info except the missing part comprised of The Title.......

It can be also the present scientists use a smaller space time matrix..not defining a universe boundaries properly😀🙏

My immediate thought is why are we not seeing stars/galaxies 14-26B yrs old if the universe is in fact 26B yrs old? That's a huge missing chunk in which we have no evidence of anything existing.

Is the gravitational constant truly constant? If not . . .

The JWST is detecting remnants of previous universes 👍

13.8 billion years is the time it took for light to reach us from star's estimated distance. The x factor being assumed as correct is the period of so called inflation. If the universe expanded faster than light during inflation, maybe that full blown universal light is just now reaching us. That would explain stars 13.8 billion years old in the milky way, as well as fully formed galaxies appearing 13.8 years in the astral light pattern.

Michio Kaku is correct. I think that our universe came about through the Big Bang, but, there was another galaxy or another part of our galaxy that previously existed before the Big Bang and there must have been a tremendous cosmic explosion between a point in our galaxy with a point or something like a tremendous black hole in a separate galaxy or the previous part of our galaxy that existed before the Big Bang and 5hey did find remnants of a black hole that was older than our universe along with Methuselah and other galaxies that are older than our galaxy and our universe is the extension of a previous galaxy with parts of it are twice as old as our universe is or our section of the complete galaxy that existed before ours was formed or two galaxies collided and we can only see that which is visible to us, but, in actuality our whole universe is 26.6 billion years old or some other large number like 46 billion or 53 billion or 98 billion years old. Right now they need to put all options on the table and start going over them all and include the new discoveries of the JWST and by a process of elimination just see what fits and what doesn’t, what is applicable and what’s not, what’s possible and what’s not and go from there. I think we’re almost back to square one. It’ll be an interesting journey. 👨🏼‍🚀💫☄️✨🚀🛰🛸

It seems to me the problem is basing the age of the universe off an expansion rate... that assumes a center point to measure from and we have no idea where the "center" of the universe is. What we can see we guestimate to be 13.8B yrs old, logically it is a mistake to extend that to what we cannot see.

if the universe is a black hole light cannot escape and must reflect. The Boundry must be a mirror. Were looking at our own universe complete with redshift. At big bang we had super inflation, (higher than light speed). This would make stars appear older than the universe.

I would say that our entire observable universe is smaller than a popcorn fart in a hurricane. We are using limited tools trying to observe a limitless phenomena. Here's a question for you. If the phenomena known as "The Big Bang" occurred again, say in the Andromeda galaxy, what would it do to our observable universe?

how sure can we be that these are galaxies that we see so far away. May be it could be something else unknown yet.

The Universe is probably over 100 billion years old

Consider DIFFUSION and INFINITY. Stop "tweaking" and "revising".

Laws of physics 1st no force is changed by time 2nd time is not changed by anything 3rd physic is much more complex than everyone believes. Space is much bigger than the universe and it did exist bevor big bang. The universe created by big bang is bigger than we can see today. Gravity is not as simple as Einstein believed. Lightspeed is not limited. It is not constant for everyone. Galileo did figure out old mistakes. We need to figure out the mistakes of Einstein and other scientists.

Why couldn’t the Big Bang occur in all directions, meaning even exploding ‘backwards’ in time? May not seem possible, but we don’t know enough about spacetime

Interesting, but does it really matter how old the Universe is? It's unlikely that mankind will never get very far into space anyway.

99.9999% of all "theories" have been proven wrong.

Obvious measurement error 😮

The beginning of the universe is not 13.8 billion years old. The beginning of universe is simply one end of a wormhole that leads to another universe.

There is no way for us to know the age, size, or origins of our universe.

Thank you very much for saying "raises the question" rather than "begs the question." Gold star for you. My favorite philosopher, Alan Watts, argues that the universe can't have a beginning. My own thinking agrees. If we call the universe A, and A at some point is nada, and at another point A equals our infinite(?) universe, you get A != A. There Are a few ways one could take that though. Still counting from the Big Bang though. Obviously things are not adding up, and the evidence seems to be leaning towards an older post-bang universe.

Michio Kaku speaks of the "Creation" of the universe. That's a biblical and inaccurate concept. The universe wasn't created. It had no Creator. The universe is eternal having neither a beginning nor an end.

The expansion rate And the vacuum pressure of space could only have been created by a continuous big Bang. This could also explain other unforeseens in the new universe.

The universe is 79.84 billion years old. Baryon symmetry breaking and time symmetry breaking is one of the likely choice to cause the beginning.

The idea that "we may have to rewrite the textbooks" is insanity if it is actually done. I say that because the updated version will just be another guess based on proposed models chosen to be the most popular among educated guessers. I recommend that science only teaches proven facts supported by data that doesn't require estimation to precisely fit the prediction. How about "we don't know" as the answer to a question.

It is ridiculous for us to estimate the age of the universe. Everything is recycled.

Another proof that general relativity and the cosmology based on it are wrong (following dark energy, expansion of space faster than the speed of light, unobservable curvature of the universe, etc.). General relativity is just an incorrect theory of gravity that has nothing to do with special relativity, and in cosmology, since a cosmology based on special relativity is different from a cosmology based on general relativity, we should choose a cosmology based on special relativity. If you want to know the true shape of the universe, read the book 'Relativistic Universe and Forces' or search related posts. Or ask me.

Error, incorrect, inaccurate, misunderstood, incomplete, wrong, revised, learn, unlearn, uncertainty, that is science. I don't know you don't know nobody's know. We cannot know everything. We are the created beings. Information is limited for our brain to comprehend. Allah knows best. Amin

The Universe is trillions of Earth years old.

MAN WILL NEVER KNOW THAT🌍! If it was meant for to know God would've let it been known🌏🤔🤨🙄!

Primordial galaxies! 🪐🌠🌑🌙🎇 I wonder if the next Nobel Prize in Physics will go to the person, who solves this problem next year! Or does it take 10 years??? Primordial galaxies!...A wonderful theme for sleepless nights!