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Bourgogne: Still The Best Steel Ship 

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I really should play this ship more than I do, it really is amazing.
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@pendragooon
@pendragooon 2 года назад
Wow, dude. That must have upset the Daring really hard. Respect!
@AmCzAmBz
@AmCzAmBz 2 года назад
Was expecting a "reported for cheating" in chat. :D
@tulioc6
@tulioc6 2 года назад
Big Brain Potato
@sonicjoy2002
@sonicjoy2002 2 года назад
@@AmCzAmBz yep, I got quite a few of those losers ranting "cheating" when I blank shot them in smoke, around the edge of islands, or just the corner of map etc. That felt so good.
@vallam3531
@vallam3531 2 года назад
I sometimes use the depth charge planes to fly overhead an area, and if they have their aa on, I can get guess from their aa tracers
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 2 года назад
Works pretty well for cruisers, and a lot of DD's seem to keep their AA on too. At least it tells me if the player understands some of the deeper systems in the game if their AA is off. I also do this with Fighters/Spotters if I need an enemy ship to be spotted early, or to see if it is hidden nearby. Spotted a lot of battleships as they go around islands like that.
@CoffeeMug2828
@CoffeeMug2828 Год назад
as a rule of thumb, I always keep my AA off, if detection is inevitable, I open up the moment i get detected just in case there is a chance that the plane will veer off to another detection instead. DD AA are barely useful most of the time anyways.
@mikehomant7806
@mikehomant7806 2 года назад
Thanks PQ. Best in the biz with explaining your decisions and making us better quality potatoes.
@arnoedgar8477
@arnoedgar8477 2 года назад
Superb analysis! I enjoy the thought process which you used to pinpoint the most likely location of that daring.
@threeshrikes
@threeshrikes 2 года назад
That was one hell of a clean read. Using your brain really is the biggest hack in this game!
@vampirecount3880
@vampirecount3880 2 года назад
When someone calls me a hacker in an online game i usually tell them that indeed, im a hacker, im able to use my brain...
@UNSINKABLEII
@UNSINKABLEII 2 года назад
Great shot and thought process!
@maudrysilvain5905
@maudrysilvain5905 2 года назад
Be me liking Bourgogne Be me reminded that Clan wars begin this afternoon, that I'll have to strategize for the whole bravo team without any team cohesion Be me : crying Also I know yes, I could try ranked, but I'm too bad for it and with sub it has gone worst. Just to let you know of that
@Mario-kf3ej
@Mario-kf3ej 2 года назад
next ranked WONT have submarines ... actually its better than random . Unless you love playing against subs.
@kevinthechuker1721
@kevinthechuker1721 2 года назад
@@Mario-kf3ej instead of having to deal with subs you have to deal with super ships, not as bad though
@pedrolft9010
@pedrolft9010 2 года назад
@@kevinthechuker1721 at least you can kill super ships lmao
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz 2 года назад
I had a shot like this that literally saved us from losing by resetting the cap from 10km away. It’s hard to overstate the level of satisfaction felt by accurately estimating where they’re located by nothing more than your detection radius/status and their last known position or the last trajectory of their torpedoes.
@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397
@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397 2 года назад
God damn. Fricken impressive man. Well done.
@MrGrim2u1987
@MrGrim2u1987 2 года назад
Bejesus your thought process is some next level shit. Plus very humble. Good video.
@sealight78
@sealight78 2 года назад
Great vid, man. Thanks again.
@Jumka
@Jumka 2 года назад
Super Unicum bb aiming guide. Nice man
@JLewisRacing927
@JLewisRacing927 2 года назад
$5 he reported you after that blind shot lmao
@AlexFeldstein
@AlexFeldstein 2 года назад
Very well done!
@SaStoilov
@SaStoilov 2 года назад
You have to make compilation with those blind shots. I recall at least 3 such cases from the recent months.
@CaptSkidmark
@CaptSkidmark 2 года назад
Outthinking your enemy is NEVER cheating. Good work, professor.
@TheLoomit
@TheLoomit 2 года назад
This is pretty much the far opposite of "I jUsT wAnNa hAvE fUn and shoot red shippys!". Well done, PQ! And as it turns out, surprisingly you had fun while using your brain. Shocking! :D
@aproudbaguette3605
@aproudbaguette3605 2 года назад
A really interesting video, a lot of BBs players should take notes, weither they are on PC or Legends
@droidmotorola3884
@droidmotorola3884 2 года назад
Legends is harder because you don't have control of how the mini map looks etc.
@goheboge09studio69
@goheboge09studio69 2 года назад
Insane intellectual play!
@paulgebhart1413
@paulgebhart1413 2 года назад
Excellent video.
@spacenerd4482
@spacenerd4482 2 года назад
1:43 RIP for that Mino 😢
@landochabod7
@landochabod7 2 года назад
How does one enter the A cap on that map without hydro on? o.O
@Schnappi8907
@Schnappi8907 2 года назад
My Twitch clip made it in the vid nice.
@reprimand33
@reprimand33 2 года назад
I love hunting DDs in my Roma Fast and can make good turns
@Logan_Daniels_Photography
@Logan_Daniels_Photography 2 года назад
I bet he was fuming at that blind shot
@padanfain7466
@padanfain7466 2 года назад
I'm pretty good at smoke fire, blind fire, map awareness....not that good. Impressive stuff 🥔
@kroes1687
@kroes1687 2 года назад
I did that to an unspotted dd in my atlanta within first 3 minutes of Match. He was unspotted and I guessed where a dd might go to contest cap and I took 3/4 of his health in that salvo. He was so pissed xD
@CaptSoban
@CaptSoban 2 года назад
Hey PQ! You only get the Devastating Strike achievement if you slap someone for more than 50% of his hp AND kill him after. You didn't get the devstrike on the Thunderer because you took him out when he was lower than 50%, and you got it for the Mino because you slapped him first and then took him down after a few minutes.
@landochabod7
@landochabod7 2 года назад
Huh? No, just no. 4:36 The Thunderer was on 51,436/82,900 hp, so 62% He blapped her to zero and his damage counter went up from 65,581 to 117,017, which is all she had at that time.
@UhackUdie
@UhackUdie 2 года назад
He actually did 50k+ in that salvo, and didnt get the devstrike. He had about 65k, then 117k after thundy died. I am not chastising you, for it is understandable seeing that 39k pop up, just correcting you.
@oneangrycanadian6205
@oneangrycanadian6205 2 года назад
I got this ship two weeks ago and love it. Was flipping back and forth on the Shika or this and went for the bourg so glad I did. My buddy I play with has the shika and he regretting the shika.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 2 года назад
Definitely the right choice by you.
@oneangrycanadian6205
@oneangrycanadian6205 2 года назад
@@EvoraGT430 yes so glad I did it. Hard thing to decide just because steel is so hard to get lol
@mayeenhasan440
@mayeenhasan440 2 года назад
when do you stream on twitch?
@DarkKelo
@DarkKelo 2 года назад
how about the incomparable is it better or burgogne still the best?
@SillPVGaming
@SillPVGaming 2 года назад
I think that DD disliked your video. lmao. Awesome job.
@jimk8592
@jimk8592 2 года назад
That minotaur...
@Sporting1210
@Sporting1210 2 года назад
curious timing for a Bourg video^^ also funny they all went into B considering the maps name is "Trap"-i thought by now, eberybody knew the reason for that.
@gluesniffingdude
@gluesniffingdude 2 года назад
I suspect it's Twin Brothers syndrome
@smiIingman
@smiIingman 2 года назад
Bourgogne is the only ship ive wanted for a long time. But after years of playing (No clan battles) I've only accumulated 6.5k steel. This will take a fucking decade to get
@landochabod7
@landochabod7 2 года назад
Are you playing Ranked? In Silver league you make 800 or more steel every couple of weeks (every Sprint), just by winning a few games: I think it's 200 steel for 3 wins, up to 4 times, then you get 400 doubloons and some nice camos. If you rank out the league you're in, it's another 200+200. Bronze has a lower ceiling, but it's more steel and dubs nevertheless. I've barely ever played Clan Battles, too, but just from Ranked and some supercontainers I have now Shikishima and Plymouth (with the coupon, both times) and I'm close to a third ship in December.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
In gold ranked you - just for first 15 victories - you get a 1000 steel. Every 14 days. And yes, 800 dubloons extra, too, so for total of 26 victories it is really good value out of them. And I don´t know if you know, but now you don´t need to wait after qualification, so you can run through bronze+silver+gold in first 14 days (it will be a hell of a grind, I know) and collect all levels at once and you will remain in gold league for the rest of the season with only need of getting those 26 victories to this reward. Of course you can rank out if you´d like, but hey, no need to if you don´t have time and player level ;)
@Nick-fb4vv
@Nick-fb4vv 2 года назад
Can you do a coal Capt vid and see who is worth it and who isn't etc?
@Mario-kf3ej
@Mario-kf3ej 2 года назад
depends if you are newer player or old. If new don't buy captains they are super expensive and their skill wont even work in clan/rankeds battles. If you have tons of T9/T10s for coal ... you should get Kuznetsov -> Lutjens - > Sansonneti (crates are for coal)... rest is okay but not as good.
@maxmustermann1111
@maxmustermann1111 2 года назад
maybe i can help :) its pretty straight forward for the most of them in my mind: 1) If you do play clanbattles and miss some of the good coal ships for it (moskwa e.g.) get them first. the captains dont work in clanbattles. 2) If you have all the coal ships you want/need you might consider getting the coal modifications. for 1 legendary captain you get 10 coal modifications, like the radar mod. They have vastly more impact and they do work in competitive modes. 3) if you decide to get an improved captain, it absolutely depends on what you play. -Günther (the german one) is great on basically any german ship including CVs. Good skills, and easy to activate talents. Ofcause he is "most useful" on the secondary BBs, but really the talents are good for all. -Yamamoto is great because its free. You get it for playing the game, so get it. Also first strike talent gets activated easily and the improved skills are good ones. Train it for BB if you put it on a techtree ship. - Kusnezov is probably the best talent in the game. Extra consumable for first blood is great, especially on russian BBs. And the "save the day" heal and DCP activates automatically. A considerable downside though is, that his improved skills arent all that useful. His talents are best on BB or stalin/petro/moskwa. But his improved skills dont really offer anything for them. So in CB for example he is completely garbage. You´d rather have the seasoned captains (the ones for 1500dubs/35k coal) then. -Halsey is free. Halsey is great. get halsey. Put it on anything really that you play most on the americans. If you are a lucky guy and own some of the american secondary BBs, make sure NOT to train him for montana/vermont, since you want different builds on that. I recommend Desmoines. Also the seasoned captains (george and jon doe) are way better for montana and vermont. you can get one from a collection even. get them. -Swersky is not necessarily great, but its the only improved european captain. So get it if you play a lot of halland e.g. There is just no other alternative for a european improved captain. - cunningham: for the cruisers and BBs the seasoned captains (the dunkirks) are just better. so really only if you play CV or DD but even then it doesnt even compare to kusnezov. -Auboyneau: Talents arent great. Improved skills arent great. And also the seasoned captains (Honore) are better. They got improved AR. And you get one of them from a collection. -sansonetti: That one is really fkin great. not so much because of the talents but because on italien ships improved "gun feeder" is literally pure gold. Both on Cruiser and BB. That one i would spend coal on, if venezia or columbo are amongst your favorite ships. the talents are good too ofcause, but the gunfeeder really makes the difference in gameplay. What you always need to keep in mind: These captains CAN make a difference. But dont expect your Winrate to go up even 2% because you got the captain. Kusnezov is arguably the best one out there but really. IF you run that guy in a stalin, his best talent (the DCP+heal) is gonna activate on 7k-ish HP. That means: -In every game, that you dont almost die, it was useless and a seasoned captain would have been better. -Everytime a salvo wouldnt exactly kill you, but overkill you by 7k you gonna still die without that thing activating. -Everytime you die in a situation where you can not disengage after it activated, you are going to still die and it will only give you like 1 more salvo. I run him on Kremlin and really, the situation where Kusnezov comes in clutch and really changes the outcome of a situation is maybe MAYBE 1 in 15-20 games. So on a personal note: Get ships first, get seasoned captains first, get mods first. Especially the free ones. Especially if you play CB. And when you got all that you want, get the legendary captains. The only exception really might be Lüthiens if you really enjoy german secondary BBs. You can then also re-use it on other premium cruisers etc and that will give you decent value. But a single legendary captain is basically same price as a TX ship if you have the coupon for -25%. Hop that was helpful :)
@johnnyenglish583
@johnnyenglish583 2 года назад
@@maxmustermann1111 A very, very good answer and great recommendations. You, Sir, are a good chap. I'll actually save a screenshot of this as a crib.
@maxmustermann1111
@maxmustermann1111 2 года назад
@@johnnyenglish583 thanks mate :)
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 года назад
@@maxmustermann1111 The tasks for Yamamoto and Halsey are quite a grind though. Thanks for the in-depth post
@opposingcritter
@opposingcritter 2 года назад
So tempted to buy but worried something amazing could be around the corner that i will miss >.
@vastrove7746
@vastrove7746 2 года назад
Honestly doubt anything would just come around that could trump bourglgne
@gluesniffingdude
@gluesniffingdude 2 года назад
Thankfully Bourgo isn't going away soon so you can wait it out a bit
@andrewmarkowski308
@andrewmarkowski308 2 года назад
Rewards for achievements? Have you noticed that prices of cammos went up? I mean type and type 2.
@lunasamoyed4907
@lunasamoyed4907 2 года назад
My favourite ship :) And this video is the proof why PQ is one of THE BEST players in WOWS! :) I wish you were playing on EU server too :(
@vastrove7746
@vastrove7746 2 года назад
He doesnt need proof, he is part of an unicum clan and he has unicum stats
@Ragaaci
@Ragaaci 2 года назад
that dude must be destroying his keyboard
@BergenDev
@BergenDev 2 года назад
" Wish in one hand and s**t in the other, see wich hand you get most in" Sun tzu probably.
@zane660
@zane660 2 года назад
How do you make the aa circle show on the map?
@simanta2007
@simanta2007 2 года назад
while in-game, hold down control and click on the gear icon on the top right of the minimap..there are several checkboxes there, enable the ones you need..
@zane660
@zane660 2 года назад
@@simanta2007 tysm that helps a lot
@brianspiller9075
@brianspiller9075 2 года назад
The dev strike doesn't care when the damage occurred, just the total damage meets the requirement.
@whyno713
@whyno713 2 года назад
Is this hands down better than Republic? Because of extra 4 guns in a turret?
@landochabod7
@landochabod7 2 года назад
1) the reload is a lot better, with the consumable 2) the speed boost is a lot better 3) the guns don't overmatch much, though
@joelabreu5497
@joelabreu5497 2 года назад
great thinking and logic, but in the end, ppl will say you are using cheats and all that jazz. cheers from Portugal mate
@nailed2ax_126
@nailed2ax_126 2 года назад
Signal flags was already hard enough to get with achievements, now they made it harder to try get them.
@Ismail-pv3hv
@Ismail-pv3hv 2 года назад
Can you do a Gascone review? maybe compare it to Flandre? I rarely see people mention this ship..
@boratunc9700
@boratunc9700 2 года назад
Flandre dumduz daha iyi
@Mario-kf3ej
@Mario-kf3ej 2 года назад
what do you need to know its mini Republique and thats it.
@nostick18
@nostick18 2 года назад
Wow!
@Jess-dg6wo
@Jess-dg6wo 2 года назад
Vac?
@Arceolis
@Arceolis 2 года назад
“It’s difficult to torp this.” Five minutes earlier eats a torp on the bow 😅 lol. Great game.
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 года назад
He has avoided (didn't even have to dodge) most of the Daring's torps, so his statement was in fact very very true. Eating a single torp is nothing compared to what was fired at him
@Arceolis
@Arceolis 2 года назад
@@riquelmeone I was making a joke lol. Wasn’t being serious.
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 года назад
@@Arceolis sorry, I’m German, we don’t joke ;)
@Arceolis
@Arceolis 2 года назад
@@riquelmeone I’m Italian so we tend to be a bit dickish with our comments
@MarcusOania8
@MarcusOania8 2 года назад
bor-gon-yuh
@byengjoo3304
@byengjoo3304 2 года назад
intro : it must be similar to the that montana video after 8:52 : pardon? this video is just rnasterpiece....
@wig_spliterr7622
@wig_spliterr7622 2 года назад
What classifies as a dev strike did 54k on a broadside kremlin and didnt get one
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
they are broken and do not work
@dalmada345
@dalmada345 2 года назад
Capitan skills?
@_maximus_1990
@_maximus_1990 2 года назад
Potato i have enough steel, to catch bourgogne or shikishima, which one should i get?, i have experience in japanese and french battleships.
@Jess-dg6wo
@Jess-dg6wo 2 года назад
Ngl i kinda regret buying fdr, I haven't played her much.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
It is stupidly OP CV, I am kind of glad you don´t play it
@Jess-dg6wo
@Jess-dg6wo 2 года назад
@@siriusczech her gameplay is to slow for my liking
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
@@Jess-dg6wo it is, though immortal planes are great for bullying
@Jess-dg6wo
@Jess-dg6wo 2 года назад
@@siriusczech indeed, i just feels like russian cv are better at dealing dmg.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
@@Jess-dg6wo absolutely, especially when you get closer
@Alex-hy9cw
@Alex-hy9cw 2 года назад
Stalingrad also nice? i'm not a bb player and I enjoy the likes of alaska and agir alot.
@sardaukerlegion
@sardaukerlegion 2 года назад
Snowflakes are coming, and i have to choose my first steel boat.
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 2 года назад
Bourgogne is the best, honestly. Stalingrad is good but not as much fun (and keeps getting nerfed).
@michaelgimenez4032
@michaelgimenez4032 2 года назад
Bourgogne secondary, worth it or avoid?
@EvoraGT430
@EvoraGT430 2 года назад
Can work with the reload boost 4-point skill, but not often.
@vincet8431
@vincet8431 2 года назад
I’m lazy, I’ll just use RF
@Strangelove657
@Strangelove657 2 года назад
I want to get steel ships, but they just take too long to obtain.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
Sources of steel - clan wars, ranked battles, spending dubs to research dockyard events faster and then finishing those tasks nevertheless. The last one I don´t recommend, the first one is a good for solo playing - at least you get to know your T10 ship.
@veritas4887
@veritas4887 2 года назад
Imagine this thing with thunderer guns and rudder shift, conqueror heal as well as GK armour
@cookiesupervisor2211
@cookiesupervisor2211 2 года назад
I got Burgugone in Maj , and she is good ship but I like more Republiqe , now I have problem have 28k steel , so with coupon in Christmas I can get any ship , but there is nothig really worth it my rankig look like that : 1. FDR OP CV , I am not cv player so that would be no ... but that is only steel ship that existed so cause that is worth to get it . 2. Shikishima for gun sound , and pen ... but just 6 guns. 3. Plymouth smoke + radar + hydro + 16 guns + 10km torps = fun ... but dont have HE. 4. Stalingrad cause russian imagination is soviet OP ... this any way they could dream about winning cold war... 5. Austin ... can be fun to play , but ... mostly you will have terrible time on this ship. 6. Raganar :/ , 4 guns in 2 turrets , radar ... this ship can be fun but with no smoke & no torps she is just useless for majority players as whole pan Eurpean line is about quick torps , I have 21p captain on Halland , 17p on Östergötland , 16p on Öland ,and all have torpedo build ! , so I would need to spend captain xp or db every time I want to play it , or keep one captain on it , so is useless for training commanders ...
@Forbiddina
@Forbiddina 2 года назад
So what you’re saying is that you made this video to send to weegee for when that daring submits a ticket on you 🤣😝
@caifora837
@caifora837 2 года назад
if i was that DD i would have to write a "nice c**k bro" to that unicun guess right there, lucky as hell, what gamming chair are you using?
@opposingcritter
@opposingcritter 2 года назад
Too bad that shima didn't help you and saved you from doing loops around A for a few minutes
@tent7014
@tent7014 2 года назад
i'm Potato Quality.....................haha...hahah..hahaha...hahaha ..ha ?
@jasonh8753
@jasonh8753 2 года назад
You have been reported.... :0)
@droidmotorola3884
@droidmotorola3884 2 года назад
I still don't get how thunderer is better at HE spam than this ship
@erlienfrommars
@erlienfrommars 2 года назад
It's accurate as hell, insane HE alpha, has 67% fire chance per shell, with a better base reload. for example for every salvo a Thunderer throws at a certain target, about half of it lands where you aim them at max range, each capable of destroying modules like AA, torpedo tubes and secondary batteries. For comparison Bourgogne with only about half the fire chance, lower HE alpha and crappy dispersion is a spray and pray BB at best, without the MBRB, this is just an alsace with a bit better reload and dispersion (not like it makes a big difference), just look at how many times he's been trolled at an otherwise a devastating strike on broadside cruisers. at max range, you'd wish at least 1/4 of your shells would land on your target and prays that your fire chance would make up to end up burning your target.
@anidiot2818
@anidiot2818 2 года назад
@@erlienfrommars the accuracy on Thunderer is just insane. Managed to land 8/9 shells (at 20km ) on a shimakaze slowing down and smoking up, almost nuking him from full hp. Still think the accuracy is a great concept, but the HE seems unnecessary as the AP would still be good enough.
@guillaume5124
@guillaume5124 2 года назад
​@@anidiot2818 8 shells would be a maximum, as Thundy only has 8 barrels ;)
@hardkur
@hardkur 2 года назад
lol no fuking way they gonna give back rewards for achievements
@windfire5380
@windfire5380 2 года назад
On one possible reason why rewards removed from Merit basis: Woke thinking has the concept of rewarding from merit as "bad" as it does not result in equality of outcome, or "equity". Everyone should have same outcome. Pathetic.
@vandemonian5412
@vandemonian5412 2 года назад
Using your brain is not cheating - its definitely OP ( WG plz nerf) , but its not cheating.
@2138Dude
@2138Dude 2 года назад
Nope not anymore. Now you have ragnar which is unkillable piece of shit with radar. Not even marceau can kill that shit
@chaotic9157
@chaotic9157 2 года назад
FDR and Ragnar are definitely better than that
@arturtelazek1294
@arturtelazek1294 2 года назад
I do not believe you. That was a quite big area for a DD and you hit it 5 times. Yours explanation is vague and inconsistent. You say the DD is in front of you and the guns are aimed at the cap. I wonder what hacks do You use.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
there is an area a DD can be in. You just guess and fire somewhere to that area. I wold fire further to the right assuming he went in, turned and then stopped. PQ chose further left and scored. 5 hits is definitely luck, but if you know this game this well, you can - as PQ said - in one in every 10-30 games score hits on blind.
@arturtelazek1294
@arturtelazek1294 2 года назад
@@siriusczech PQ tracked the DD in the whole time. He said the dd is in the front and he is stil aiming in the right side. His deduction is suspicious. He tracked dd with lead and when the target stopoed he decreased lead and then shot.
@siriusczech
@siriusczech 2 года назад
@@arturtelazek1294 He did - not exactly, but approximately you know and if you are a good BB player, you will do that, too (same as I do). BB guns are turned slowly so you pre-turn them anytime you expect someone in some specific direction, either by pressing Ctrl+X or turning your view. Some DDs even watch your gun and fire at you when your guns are turned the other way, especially british with their small smokes, which their burst like octopuses to break line of sight before you turn your guns back. With this I fully understand the explanation of PQ - he was making it impossible for a DD to go all around him and he would push it either to complete corner (improbable) or still in front of him somewhere. Judged by the direction of torps coming from you know pretty god the vector of DD´s last position. And when entering the cap ... you know the rest ;)
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