Can Yveltal overcome 9 years of power creep to compete with today's meta decks?

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@NilsEggers-gx2iq Год назад

I think that's a really interesting concept, taking good decks from different formats and putting them against each other. Would love to see more of this

@CommunimateANIMATIONS Год назад

This is why I love expanded, sometimes a deck from the olden days comes along and gets an unexpected win against your newer deck.

@victoriaanastaciamoreirago4710 Год назад

@@CommunimateANIMATIONS not at pokemon live hahahahahahhahaha , youwelcome to make you process it

@alexnas9634 Год назад

this isnt a new concept, magic players have been doing this kind of thing for years now.

@Discopotato420 Год назад

@@alexnas9634 No one said it was a new concept

@TechHug Год назад

It's funny because what this really shows is the reverse power creep when it comes to abilities and trainer effects.

@d4c_reznor470 Год назад

Garbotoxin is like a cockroach. You think you’ve defeated it, but it keeps coming back

@crunchyapples596 Год назад

And there's usually more than 1.

@mikegreen3462 Год назад

Tell me about it

@ARDIZsq Год назад

Man, talking about Power Creep AND talking about Old VS New decks??? I've been working on a video talking about UPGRADING old decks, but not pitting them against new decks. Great idea here Andrew. Between videos like this and GLC, you've been a big inspiration for me.

@kylesparrow9996 Год назад

Man, when he said "Evil Ball for knockout" I really felt that. This was my favorite era, and the one where I played competitively the most. Ill just end with this. "Quaking Punch for 30."

@wayne5969 Год назад

Seismitoad and the Toad Bats deck 😩 🙏

@L3thalShad0ws7 Год назад

“VS Seeker, Lysandre, Game”

@lun7n Год назад

Spinning turn for 40

@Guero679 Год назад

Night march for 400 on your mega ray

@japposaurusrex Год назад

Pot of Greed for 2 additional cards.

@JimmyZSnow Год назад

I would contend that Night March actually was a deck from around this time that also set up extremely quickly. Battle compressor, acro bike setups meant you were going first turn so often, but I think it would also have a miserable time versus Lugia because of how fast it sets up and how high the HP is.

@Kaleidophoenix Год назад

Joltik does hit both Lugia and Lumineon for weakness, but Raikou and Stoutland are huge problems

@JimmyZSnow Год назад

@@Kaleidophoenix I realized after I sent this that Joltik can just smash over Lugia pretty easily, that might actually not be the worst matchup. But Mew with Lost City would probably be a death sentence for the deck, the prevalence of the lost zone would be very hard to account for

@Mitjitsu Год назад

TBF if your opponent wasn't so incompetent by not knocking out Garbodor when it had the chance then it would have been a one sided game.

@danielsmith5032 Год назад

Yea that “win” has a huge asterisk

@vehicledestroyer Год назад

This is actually the type of video I was hoping to see in the future! Would be cool to see a version of Lithium's Cross banlist cup (ygo channel/series). Basically all the best decks from history of the game compete in a bracket to see who comes out on top.

@JustBeingERNEST720 Год назад

That intro with the binder flipping pages was pretty sick

@stefandebruijn6559 Год назад

I personally preferred the similarly played Darkrai (from XY Breakpoint) that counted all your dark energy, combined with dark patch, max elixir et cetera as older decks go. Favorite older deck is a variant of Archie's blastoise, getting blastoise out first turn, then rushin' in with Keldeo; those good old times!

@Lycan3303 Год назад

Fans " mew is to OP" Pokemon company with Lugia in their hand " oh you haven't seen op yet"

@kjdemke1361 Год назад

We just nearly begun to show you strength

@musclecarmaniac6914 Год назад

Mew is better. I have a wayyy higher consistency Mew deck

@jakegearhart Год назад

I would like to see Toad Shaymin from Trump Card format against Lugia :)

@heywessley Год назад

this this this please

@cdchasgotyou4346 Год назад

I've been waiting for something like this. Old decks vs new decks; who will rip each other to utter shreds

@andrewp6738 Год назад

she wasn’t lying that star can summon

@cjf9500 Год назад

Really nice work on this video, Andrew!

@Nintendan95 Год назад

I've been playing the TCG on and off since 2011 and I think Lugia and Palkia sit up there with Seismitoad for some of the most annoying and just unfun cards in the game for me. With that said, this video is great. Thank you for making content involving Lugia somehow fun 🤣

@danieltritt1039 Год назад

I enjoyed that so much! It was hilarious honestly. Thank you

@bingostars4108 Год назад

Yo Tricky I would love to see some table top or even ptcgo content of old style matches like your land bats deck Vs a similar era deck? Would be great content 🙏❤️

@JavierGalvisP Год назад

Excellent video! Very funny You could make a 2nd part with same deck but updated with modern trainers, to evolve on 1st turn or something like that

@duelistAKI Год назад

That laugh when Mew VMAX got knocked out 😁😁😁

@TailwindZ Год назад

I've been still thinking about this myself with the Mega Mewtwo (Y) EX deck with Garbodor. Good thing MewtwoVSTAR is very similar for me to keep the dream alive.

@mr.fluffypantz4150 Год назад

It’s sad that JR had to both heavily misplay and dead draw in the lugia game in order for yveltal to win. And that’s with you picking the best possible counter play from the last 10 years. I think a control deck from some era probably has the best chance

@tamilazzaro2145 Год назад

I also have been testing the older decks against this new op meta. While Yvetal works against decks weak to Dark Pokemon its just not strong enough against other decks. However, there is one older deck that is still strong enough to achieve at least a 50% win rate against this modern meta --- and that is a Night March deck modified using Ditto as the main hitter. All other decks I have tested simply do not have the power to one or two shot these modern op Pokemon.

@lkmdude8094 Год назад

I never thought of it before, but you could probably do a cross banlist cup sort of thing with pokemon.

@Oz__MTG Год назад

It’s awesome seeing this. Love it when players get creative to attempt to melt the current meta, I play lugia as well but it was refreshing to see this.

@federicodc Год назад

Using floodgates to allow older and slower strategies to compete, where have I seen this before.... (Glances at Mystic Mine)

@exeledusprince9165 Год назад

Wow. X and Y are as old now as Red and Blue were when Diamond and Pearl came out... I feel so old

@fifnaf7290 Год назад

Man, Yveltal ex was my favourite card back in the day. I played in local tournaments with it and it carried me the whole way multiple times

@symanthacantre5444 9 месяцев назад

I miss those full art double stadiums

@sahil-p Год назад

loved this video, it makes me feel nostalgic if when I started playing this game that I love. it sucks that this type of content won't be able to be made after transitioning to ptcgl, since they don't have expanded format cards in there

@johnhurley8918 Год назад

I can't believe he hasn't tried Rapid Strike Jumpluff. That's probably the best single prizer deck to beat Lugia and Chansey

@spotsthecat7913 Год назад

Damn, Garbodor w/ Garbotoxin. I've had nightmares started with THAT CARD. That thing is just simply nasty and potent

@lionhartcaelum6833 Год назад

I wanna see my old fav meta deck Seismetoad EX/Shaymin go up against lost box!

@anguinechip Год назад

20:11 i need this deck on live😂

@snichelsticks8653 Год назад

i know it wouldn't fair well, but I want to see lugia vs a haymaker deck

@clashwithbunniesandrewsava4846 Год назад

what's the song you played at the beginning when you were loosing to Lugia called?

@CardsAndSports Год назад

How do you think this match would play out with the old supporter rule from when this deck was meta

@ryanm8832 Год назад

Very cool concept

@pointblank5126 Год назад

Love this video concept!!!

@thecritic2302 Год назад

I saw you at Orlando. What deck did you play?

@thundabread318 Год назад

@Tricky Gym! Love to see you do a video with Dusknoir 062/172 from Brilliant Stars, can move any amount of special energy as often as you want!

@Mitjitsu Год назад

Garbodor/Seismitoad would probably be a harder matchup for Lugia.

@zzzrowlet Год назад

The good all days were 200hp was impressive

@benjaminscott294 Год назад

I think it would be interesting to use the pokemon from older rotation, but add new trainer cards.

@Elraze13 Год назад

But can it beat Lost Box?

@corydarrow7313 Год назад

Fun to watch!

@CeliosNetwork Год назад

YES YES YES

@jaxkasedad4953 Год назад

I mean if you play it enough you’re eventually going to get a perfect game.

@jacksaunders386 Год назад

Dread it. Run from it. Garbodor arrives just the same

@10types Год назад

"Back in my day"

@saintsoul.3875 Год назад

The real David and Goliath

@danielsmith5032 Год назад

Yea I’m gonna put an asterisk on that win vs Lugia. Opponent really wasn’t thinking by not knocking out Garbo. It was game over then lol

@CobraOrochi Год назад

Great video Andrew👍

@danielhenderson8000 Год назад

So, the real power creep has been on Pokemon health and damage? Yeah, sounds about right. lol Honestly, this just showcases how awesome Galarian Weezing is right now, and it hurts because he is going SOOO soon! That new ability lock Klefki or whoever will help...but he is smaller and doesn't stop Lugia at all. I just hope the weird Lugia Strike Box is nowhere near as oppressive...

@richardmhalsall8367 Год назад

loved these, hope you do this again. throw in the V guard energy if you do this with Yveltal again lol. Garb as "toxic" as it felt might of been would bring some stabilization to this meta that is overpowered.

@liltonyabc Год назад

😳9 years since yveltal EX

@heavyarms55 Год назад

It's not about the numbers. People always talk about the HP. But that only matters within a format. The HP and damage in-format is fine. The power creep is in the utterly insane amount of set up that we can do right now. All the top decks are crazy consistent and set up basically turn 1/2 and then that pretty much decides the game. Aggro is GOD and there's not much you can do about it. Yeah there's a few pseudo control decks around but rarely do they ever see real success. Everyone lost if when Mewtwo V-Union almost was good because holy shit, it was something that lasted more than 3 turns.

@20eyesmisfit Год назад

They used to balance it more, control/lock/mill seems to be dying out more than ever.

@heavyarms55 Год назад

@@20eyesmisfit I don't think it's a lack of balance even, truthfully. Part of it is how long its been since a rotation, I mean we still have base set SWSH in the game. There's an over abundance of tools. We're seeing part of what happened to expanded, there's more than enough cards to just always have everything you need to just floor it and kill the other guy. Limited card pools force different tactics. But they also just need to hold back on printing so many OP abilities. Genesect V is the stupidest card I've seen in years. Whoever thought that was okay needs to have their head examined. Same With Arceus Vstar. And the Shady Dealings family was also just WAY too good. The game was never meant for us to have access to our entire deck on turn 2.

@DanExcell Год назад

Great games dude! As a "mature" age returning to the game I am really appreciating your videos, Cheers

@chazsiddall3700 Год назад

The comment about mew v itself not being a problem just the vmax brings me the question if all the v pokemon didn't evolve how much different the format would be

@wiredpenha3091 Год назад

It would be a lost box fiesta

@danielsmith5032 Год назад

Mew vmax isn’t the problem. It’s Genesect not being limited to once a turn

@christmaldonado89 Год назад

Guy's a Maniac

@whitewolf8051 Год назад

A bit early today, aren't we?

@TrianglePants Год назад

Powercreep hasn't EVER been required to sell ANY game OR show.

@andrewstevens6501 Год назад

This vid is awesome man ahaha

@KantoCacho Год назад

Isn't Shaymin banned because of scoop up net lol

@Donohuebro2 Год назад

Lugia should've ended your turn, still way too strong, but better

@raddeangamming Год назад

GardviorGX still pawns

@loopingmoon1444 Год назад

As someone that is big into pokemon but not at all into tcg, I followed none of this but it was very fun nonetheless

@kingcygnus Год назад

Love this concept. Now beat Mew with something 😂

@TrickyGym Год назад

Watch the whole vid 🥸

@kingcygnus Год назад

@@TrickyGym oh wow I’m the worst lol I’m so sorry

@jeanpablo1031 Год назад

Not in Magic, cards gets progressively less and less powerful there. They don't even reprint Lightning Bolt anymore

@alexs7670 Год назад

Yeah, magic has a weird curve where things are mostly less powerful. But, then we get things like questing beast, ragavan, or smothering tithe.

@MisterStubstep Год назад

Bravo!

@abirgaming1502 Год назад

what a beautiful card

@takenname8053 Год назад

Super Nice

@marclevy1506 Год назад

Bruh…. MegaManectric/Yveltal would be better Vs Lugia?

@Some-Kidd Год назад

BANGER video idea

@bobbygarcia34 Год назад

I love this video

@GroomlakeArea51 Год назад

I wish people would use the more appropriate term of "toxicity" instead of meta it's a way more honest description of most any competitive game.Notice how that word isn't used in actual sports competitions...

@AtomicBl453 Год назад

I wish all cards were standard format. :(

@darkherosolidox Год назад

New best deck of the format lol

@isickell8714 Год назад

Idk who won yet, I’m in college so I can’t watch yet, but I just wanted to say if it doesn’t win then I’d be interested to see you take yveltal ex on its own and try building a deck around it using cards only from the current standard, just to see if it can compete in the current format using the current cards (sorry if this makes no sense, I’m bad at getting my point across lol)

@Enraptored- Год назад

YAHVELTAL PREVAILS

@TheZentegi Год назад

Now do zoroarc break

@johnathansilva2823 Год назад

My old Alolan Dugtrio can beat Lugia...

@SpectreXS Год назад

Nothing like cards that don't let the opponent play the game, those will always be good! Also with a sprinkle of max elixir, float stone, vs seeker, shaymin EX...😂