If Tim was on a bad team he'd average 33ppg and grab like 18rpg. He was legit that good. But if you have Parker and Gino you can put up 25ppg and 12 rpg and contend every year. Everyone who played against Tim knew how good he was. Chuck went from 23-28 and 14 when he was the primary guy in Philly to 21-25 and 12 when he was in Phoenix because he had a better team. It gives him a chance to relax a bit more on the court, but he could still get you playoff wins when needed, as evidenced by his 44pt 22 reb game against Seattle in the conference finals in 1993.
i saw a video where they put all the stats all the accolades and impact into an ai powered calculator to calculate who was the best player to ever lace up. MJ no.1 and Tim was 2nd.
I Love when great basketball players humble themselves to give praise to other great players. Not taking anything away from their play, but they still recognize greatness amongst their peers and throughout the league. Sir Charles is one of the best to ever do it and never get a ring.
Anyone who says Tim Duncan had a lot of help fail to realize that outside of Kawhi Leonard, no other player he played with accomplished more without him than with him from a winning perspective. Parker and Ginobli were able to be effective because of Tim and Robinson was able to win because of him. Duncan can honestly be considered top-5 all time.
This "help" narrative was only emphasize today because a hyped player no matter how stacked his team was, cannot consistently win championship. Back then, there is the team and there is the superstar player.
that is kinda unfair for Parker and Ginobili though because by the time that Timmy retired, they were out of their prime. I’d still consider Duncan the #3 best player of all-time though (only behind Bron and MJ, who are on a whole other tier)
@@henry7486 but Tim and his Squad has beaten LeBron 2 out of 3 and 2 of the times they played Bron had the better squad on paper. There’s a lot that goes into it for me, but i get what you’re saying about Tony and Manu
Duncan adapted his playstyle throughout his years and it contributed greatly to multiple rings across his career. That's what makes him the greatest power forward in my opinion.
I agree. He won championships in three different decades. And he won with all kinds of different role players that nobody wanted. What other player in NBA history won 5 championships playing with that many second round picks???
Chuck literally tried to rip the rim off on every dunk...at his size ((6'4" ish) to be able to dominate much tall guys is as impressive as AI to me...much respect Chuckie ✌🏽🤓
@@wolvesrevenge866 I disagree I don’t think he has a good argument for being the GOAT. There’s an argument but not a good one . He’s top 10 , arguably top 5 but not close to #1. I’m honestly not fully convinced he was better than KG, he had a better career but KG spent most of his prime in Minnesota which is unfortunate . You are right , he’s much better than KD though😂
Tim Duncan played with two lottery picks in his entire career: David Robinson, who made a big contribution to one of Tim’s five championships, and Robert Horry, who was a role player on two of Duncan’s five championship teams. Duncan won 50+ games every season of his career, made the playoffs every season of his career, and won 5 championships playing with Stephen Jackson (43rd pick), Malik Rose (44th pick), Bruce Bowen (undrafted), Tony Parker (28th pick), Manu Ginobili (57th pick), Danny Green (46th pick) and Kawhi Leonard (15th pick). Because the Duncan Spurs never missed the playoffs, they never had a single lottery pick during his entire career. Other than David Robinson at the beginning of his career and Kawhi Leonard at the end of his career, Duncan dominated the NBA for years with role players that nobody wanted. I only have MJ & Bron ahead of him.
I could see squeezing him into a top 5 if he's someone's favorite player but top 3 is rough as you have others like MJ, Kareem, Magic, Bird, LBJ and others. Who you taking out to replace Duncan with?
@@SojiRo23the problem is lebron had to carry a bigger load for almost all his teams. He was a guard, big man, and leading scorer. Jordan was score and defense and kobe too. So lebron and magic had to play a bigger role
"He had a lot of help." Literally never listening to Dan about anything ever again smh. Duncan could have averaged 30 all day everyday he was apart of Pop's system and a team first player. Guy was better than any big playing today by a mile.
Duncan won 50+ games every season of his career, made the playoffs every season of his career, and won 5 championships playing with Stephen Jackson (43rd pick), Malik Rose (44th pick), Bruce Bowen (undrafted), Tony Parker (28th pick), Manu Ginobili (57th pick), Danny Green (46th pick) and Kawhi Leonard (15th pick). Because the Duncan Spurs never missed the playoffs, they never had a single lottery pick during his entire career. Other than David Robinson at the beginning of his career and Kawhi Leonard at the end of his career, Duncan dominated the NBA for years with role players that nobody wanted.
Tim Duncan was one of the best centers ever. Only reason duncan played some PF was due to bigger Centers. Duncan was a center for majority of his career
Imagine if AD had health. Honestly, it’s the only real thing holding him back (his mental can be argued) He has defense, he has offensive versatility, he has rebounding, he can handle the ball… you just need him out of his street clothes.
@kevinhousen2791 Nah good buddy easy there. He was amazing don't get me wrong but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk. If you wanna say hes better statically I can ride with that but those guys accomplished the same in terms of mvp that Chuck did plus they are champions. Imo he's ahead of Malone Rodman Green etc but he ain't ahead of KG and Dirk.
Duncan's game was more built as C than PF but he had David Robinson to rely on. Barkley is too humbled as he was undersized his whole career yet still dominated his opponents...
Bro this narrative that Tim Duncan had “a lot of help” makes no sense to me he never won with a superstar teammate and Tony Parker is overrated as all fuck manu is that guy though
People who say Duncan had a lot of help know nothing about NBA basketball. He played with two lottery picks in his entire career: David Robinson, who made a big contribution to one of Tim’s five championships, and Robert Horry, who was a role player on two of Duncan’s five championship teams. Duncan won 50+ games every season of his career, made the playoffs every season of his career, and won 5 championships playing with Stephen Jackson (43rd pick), Malik Rose (44th pick), Bruce Bowen (undrafted), Tony Parker (28th pick), Manu Ginobili (57th pick), Danny Green (46th pick) and Kawhi Leonard (15th pick). Because the Duncan Spurs never missed the playoffs, they never had a single lottery pick during his entire career. Other than David Robinson at the beginning of his career and Kawhi Leonard at the end of his career, Duncan dominated the NBA for years with role players that nobody wanted.
Chuck better than that man lol but Timmy was a monster who didn’t roar. He was out there patient and aggressive 😂. Never forget the 8 blks I was like damn he really out here locking the game up😂
Charles was a better FG% shooter - but his 3FG% made up for that far too much, as he shot a TON of 3's despite being BAD at it. Tim was overall better in pretty much every other way.
What help? It pisses me off when i hear people say this. Tell me who was Timmys best teamate? Old injured DRob? Manu? Parker? Young Kawhi? Id honestly say it was Kahwi. At that was at the end of his career. Who was his teammates in 99? Vinny del Negro, Avery Johnson, Old DRob, Malik Rose. Im sorry but thats not a lot of help😂
Legendary sports broadcaster Dan Patrick been around since the 70s & too many non sports fans/children disrespecting him on this comment thread. Him & Chuck are great friends.
Duncans' first chpionship team, Parker, was 16. By the 3rd, Parker and Ginobli weren't even full-time starters. Timmys entire career was load managed, by the way. Everyone knew, and no one cried about it.
A lot of help?, what this guy is talking about?, check his numbers on every season they won the championship, solid numbers. Also, he didn't have a super team next to him, Spurs really was a very well built team, with the right player on the right position, and it was like that not because of they a wealthy wallet, only moving under the right strategy. He always was the team's leader, and assumed his role on each period of his career.
