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Cheap Camera Review - Ricoh GXR - Leica M8 on a Budget! 

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This is one of those cameras that where quite genius but never really stood a chance. The market is fierce and there is no room for being different.
The GXR is seriously affordable today. Its not like the $28 Sigma DP1 I recently reviewed. But compared to a Leica M8, Fuji X100f, etc it is way more bang for the buck in my opinion.
Specially if you value mojo.
Mine was €500 including the M-Mount and a Voigtlander 35mm f1.4.
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@andrewlentz5609
@andrewlentz5609 6 лет назад
Hey Mattias, just wanted to thank you for making this video because it convinced me to get this as my first premium digital camera and to try out manual focus lenses for the first time. It's been a super fun learning experience.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
Andrew Lentz Cool, Im glad you enjoy the camera :)
@TL-vt8uk
@TL-vt8uk 4 года назад
After watching this video I have ordered one off ebay to test out. After getting my Epson R-D1 and loving it, I totally agree these 2 camera makers were way ahead of their time....
@smoothlennie
@smoothlennie 7 лет назад
Great videos Matthias. I have a GXR with 2 M modules and the 28mm fixed lens module. One of my M modules had been converted to IR, so I have everything I need in the GXR. I love its build quality and of course the IQ of photos it produces.
@diragusa
@diragusa 6 лет назад
That minolta! Like butter those photos wow! Solid review yet again!
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 5 лет назад
I own one of these cameras and found it to be superb. Absolutely great handling camera, great UI for sure. Snap focus is great..... just superb, I very wish they kept with it. That said, I would absolutely be down with a GR and a GR with a normal lens as well. These guys truly know how to make small cameras.
@basedhalcyon
@basedhalcyon 7 лет назад
This is absolutely beautiful. I sort of want one now, it will hold me over until I can figure out how to get ahold of a Leica M9/10.
@odemata87
@odemata87 7 лет назад
Excellent quick view. I was also at a point looking to pick up one of these from Amazon for cheap but it was either this or pick up a DP3 merrill someone disowned. Picked the DP3 with no regrets but was always intrigued by the GXR. I wish ricoh would revisit this concept just with better marketing and forethought.
@tijman1
@tijman1 6 лет назад
Most photographed DOG in the WORLD !
@danilkozyatnikov8953
@danilkozyatnikov8953 4 года назад
Is it just me or is the dog never in focus in any of Mattias' videos?
@lyly-ky4re
@lyly-ky4re 3 года назад
@@danilkozyatnikov8953 just you
@ahmedrashed78
@ahmedrashed78 7 лет назад
your videos are refreshing, subscribed!
@markbroeksteeg3748
@markbroeksteeg3748 7 лет назад
still my favourite camera reviewer!
@M461Cfs
@M461Cfs 6 лет назад
I love the way you said use the camera within its limitations
@villegas24
@villegas24 7 лет назад
The concept of the camera is great
@TenisDimants
@TenisDimants 7 лет назад
Realy enjoy these videos, thank you
@raygoodwin2303
@raygoodwin2303 7 лет назад
I forgot about this camera. I remember seeing it on DRTV back in the day. Such an interesting design, shame it never caught on.
@matty9460
@matty9460 7 лет назад
Ray Goodwin I was never fussed about changing the sensor but I really like the M mount module I though that was a great idea
@raygoodwin2303
@raygoodwin2303 7 лет назад
matty9460 I'm surprised that didn't skyrocket it's success to be honest. The ability to have a relatively cheap m-mount camera seems quite attractive. Maybe it was too different for it's own good.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
Also the Sony E-mount was already out and with cheaper options.
@raygoodwin2303
@raygoodwin2303 7 лет назад
Mattias Burling I wasn't aware it was cheaper. Still, it's a shame. I'll keep my eyes open for one.
@duncanshimmin6730
@duncanshimmin6730 3 года назад
it did with me!
@sgtoconor
@sgtoconor 7 лет назад
Awesome review as always. There are so many good "old" cameras out there, yet people go crazy over big sensors and fps even if they dont use them to their fullest
@digitaldion
@digitaldion 7 лет назад
Hi Mattias, thanks for the quick review! This looks like a lovely camera. I still have my old Leica M8 (and an M9), and actually have the same Voigtlander lens you used in this review! Keep the great videos coming! I appreciate it. Are you based in Germany? I am currently in Berlin to do some work at the Humboldt University. I brought my M9 with me. It is a beautiful city to photograph!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
I loved my M9 as well. No I live in Sweden. Have fun in Berlin!
@7RQ89
@7RQ89 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing this, I own and use the GXR and the M module. I would love to add the 28mm module if I had not already owned the GRD II and IV of the same generation. This GXR is fun to use and own. It makes my photography fun.
@chrisnielsen7454
@chrisnielsen7454 7 лет назад
I have the GXR with the A12 lenses. The colors and sharpness is amazing. One way to get a cheap house (back) is buying it with S10 as a used combo (as cheap as 124 USD) and then throw the S10 in the drawer and buy the better lenses individually. Make sure to get a screen protector.
@365geo
@365geo 5 лет назад
Mattias, I have a feeling that you (like me and a lot of other people out there) have a special place in your heart for the Ricoh GXR. Well I was thinking that since there are a lot of unused S10 24-72mm sensor / lens units that are unused. How hard would it be to convert that unit into a 24.3 MP (think Sony’s Sensor for now)-in other words we use the shell and the connectors of the S10 and we strap in the sensor. We have a programmer write us a useable firmware to bridge the gap from the sensor to the camera unit. We’ll put the firmware on an SD card like they do on for raspberry pi home brew computers. It won’t be anything too crazy, just manual focus and stills (no auto focus or video). Then we of course will use the e-mount [there are hundreds of adaptors available out there already for every type of vintage lens. We put it in www.gofundme.com and with the amount of subscribers you have, I’m sure you could find 5000 people to give $400 each (lord knows they pay that for the A12 Leica unit). 5000 x $400 = $2,000,000. And it’s done all for the love of Ricoh and photography. What do you think about the Ricoh GXR Resurrection Project?
@jaredcarplay7196
@jaredcarplay7196 7 лет назад
GXR is a sample of unique concept with poor marketing budget
@bodenkeaton4480
@bodenkeaton4480 3 года назад
you prolly dont care but if you're stoned like me atm then you can watch all of the latest series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my girlfriend for the last few weeks =)
@damarishawn2151
@damarishawn2151 3 года назад
@Boden Keaton Yup, have been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
@EddieCheng81
@EddieCheng81 4 года назад
I had this camera on my wish list on amazon since it came out. I totally forgot about this camera! Time to look on Ebay for this camera.
@JoaquimGonsalves
@JoaquimGonsalves 2 года назад
Oh the song choice!🙏🏽🤩🤩🥰🥰 Very Foo Fighters-esque.
@michaelbruchas6663
@michaelbruchas6663 6 лет назад
I was selling cameras when this came out. Often we could not get the other lens modules. That scared away buyers....
@zijunryanmeng3921
@zijunryanmeng3921 7 лет назад
gunpowder is a professional.
@MultiMattRogers
@MultiMattRogers 6 лет назад
I always liked this idea as a solution to the sensor dirt/damage that comes with interchangable lenses, but if anyone were to try this again there would be the same problem of incredibly expensive "lenses" (each one is basically a whole compact camera remember) So that benefit didn't seem like a good trade off when this system came but. but now I've seen your results I might pick one up if I see it around on the cheap. I might make a good camera to let someone who is learning use for a bit to get used to the idea of manual control and swappable lenses, without having to worry about expensive gear or exposing the sensitive innards to get the most out of it.
@JoaquimGonsalves
@JoaquimGonsalves 2 года назад
Change the sensor and shutter? Wow! That sounds ingenious!
@Phantommxr
@Phantommxr 5 лет назад
THanks ...I learned a few things from it!!
@Julian-qe1yh
@Julian-qe1yh 3 года назад
I’m 3 years late but I just bought one on eBay to get back into photography after watching your videos :D
@JoaquimGonsalves
@JoaquimGonsalves 2 года назад
Interesting to hear that this is when you fell into the Foveon rabbit hole.:)
@krischan5186
@krischan5186 7 лет назад
This camera has another take on a modular camera approach and I'm liking it!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
Its cool for sure :)
@rthiaga
@rthiaga 6 лет назад
I got a used Ricoh GXR with M mount from eBay after seeing Mattia’s review. (Note: I already own Sony A7 and owned Canon T5i) Positives 1. I’ve never used Leica cameras. So can’t comment on the color. But when compared to Sony A7, Ricoh GXR’s has awesome colors. It looks more pleasing than Sony A7. 2. Native JPG files looks pretty decent. Good for those who don’t have DNG editors. 3. DNG files are around 15MB. So it is easy to manage and can be edited/viewed using various tools. 4. Long lasting battery. 5. I love the tilt indicator. 6. Has lot of lens options. Negatives 1. Super slow even with high speed memory card. 2. Can take only max of 32GB memory card. (Not a negative me though) 3. Focus peaking is not that great when compared to Sony A7. 4. It is almost of same size like Sony A7. Even though it comes with native m-mount, mount protrudes outside the camera like an adapter. Sony A7 with m-mount adapter looks compact. 5. EVF won’t turn on automatically like Sony. You have to push a button to turn it on and off. 6. It is super hard to get spare parts. Verdict: Negatives mentioned above won’t affect the image quality. If you can live with slow camera and can’t afford Leica then this is the camera for you. Colors looks stunning. This camera is not for pixel peepers. It is far better than phone cameras.
@amnsurolia5178
@amnsurolia5178 6 лет назад
You work very well
@thomasijontichy5651
@thomasijontichy5651 2 года назад
I remember that these used to be sold new for almost nothing... 8 years ago or so? Unfortunately the supply has now dried up, and those who change hands are going up in price. (Still really cheap, of course.)
@timbeaton5045
@timbeaton5045 7 лет назад
Pictures of flowers? More of Gunpowder! And no bad thing. We love him!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
He is a she :)
@timbeaton5045
@timbeaton5045 7 лет назад
My Mistake. We still love her. Such an expressive face. Most of my still photos are of our friend's dog, Jazzy, who we get to look after a fair bit. So photogenic. Much prefer dogs to most people, i'm afraid! Give my regards to her. Long may she be your main subject for photography!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
I will tell her you said hi :)
@timbeaton5045
@timbeaton5045 7 лет назад
Cool! Thanks! :-)
@jshanni2066
@jshanni2066 6 лет назад
Great Video, Mattias. You mention M8-like colours. How good were the monochrome conversions?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
Jason Hannigan very good. Ricoh have always been one of the best for B&W imo.
@jshanni2066
@jshanni2066 6 лет назад
Mattias Burling many thanks. It's definitely of interest, I can get the Gxr and a 35/2.8 Biogon cheaper than an M8 body alone.
@DreamhopMusic
@DreamhopMusic 7 лет назад
Good job mate
@WalldoTheWInner
@WalldoTheWInner 5 лет назад
So cool!
@nnbrit
@nnbrit 6 лет назад
Your dog’s gotta be the most photographed dog in the world 😂
@kunsunrethy
@kunsunrethy 7 лет назад
i like your backyard
@tc227
@tc227 7 лет назад
I was once deciding between GXR and Epson R-D1. I eventually went with R-D1. No regret. I love my R-D1.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
Also a cool camera.
@raksh9
@raksh9 5 лет назад
Get a GXR as well, it's fantastic.
@nameausstehend
@nameausstehend 7 лет назад
I might be interested in buying your GXR, including the M mount module. Where can I find further information?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
PM me at newlobbamobba@gmail.com.
@gregjarman2583
@gregjarman2583 3 года назад
I just picked one of these babys up for 300 dollars US today. With the M mount module included!! Exicted!
@trels203
@trels203 3 года назад
How is it?
@gregjarman2583
@gregjarman2583 Год назад
​@@trels203 it's pretty nice. The only problem with my sample is the LCD screens coating is a little messed up. But the images it takes are fantastic
@babalooey100
@babalooey100 5 лет назад
Like all great ideas, it will be back eventually in a slightly different form.
@LaurensiusAdiKun
@LaurensiusAdiKun 6 лет назад
I'd love to see more pictures from this camera!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
Laurensius Adi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pSieKAMEf7U.html
@LaurensiusAdiKun
@LaurensiusAdiKun 6 лет назад
Thanks. But that's the video I'm watching and commenting right now. I mean, more photo vlog, street shots, portraits.
@-grey
@-grey 7 лет назад
you got a voightlander 35mm f1.4 in with the deal? madness. I dear you could still the lens on and make all your money back.
@rthiaga
@rthiaga 6 лет назад
How it compares with Sony A6000. With an adapter I can use M mount lenses on Sony as well with more pixels and extra features. Will Sony provides same Leica like images with the lenses you mentioned (Leica, Voigtlander, 7 artisans)
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
+Thiagarajan Ramanathan no it will not.
@brianchoidesign
@brianchoidesign 6 лет назад
Been with Sony and done with Sony. I will pick the GXR at any given day if I have to choose between it and a Sony. Fuji and Leica on the other hand will put up a good fight thought.
@USandNL
@USandNL 3 года назад
The camera that I will never sell!
@Yulad_A
@Yulad_A 7 лет назад
Well I think now it's time to get a new M module for my GXR. It has A16 24-85mm/3.5-5.5 and I rarely picked it up since I bought my GR II. What do you think the best decent lenses for it are? Any wide Voigtlander will do?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
My M-Module is for sale... ;) I love the Voigtlander 28mm f2.0.
@Yulad_A
@Yulad_A 7 лет назад
Mattias Burling well I only need the M module (and lens). I thought you sell it together with the body :D.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
I could sell the body with the 50mm module. Bu Im keeping the voigtlander for now to use on my Fuji.
@Yulad_A
@Yulad_A 7 лет назад
Mattias Burling how much is it? Email?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
pm me at newlobbamobba@gmail.com.
@khanhng2010
@khanhng2010 7 лет назад
how is the jpeg image quality of this 28 mm different from the quality of a nikon 28mmon the equivalent sensor
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
It will look different. Good or bad is up to you.
@rudyhaddad88
@rudyhaddad88 3 года назад
With the Leica mount, Can you use auto ISO? What about the different metering modes?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 3 года назад
Everything works as normal.
@LowLightVideos
@LowLightVideos 7 лет назад
This seems like an excellent idea. If it had 2 bodies, one small and with perfect ergonomics (Grip/Control Layout) and the other not quite as small with IBIS . Probably could have 2 Screen types, lower resolution LCD and a fancy high resolution OLED; an external clip-on viewfinder too. If there were 3 Sensor size ranges and 2 or 3 mount types. You could choose what you wanted (or afford) and in a few years you could buy a better Sensor. Both RED and Black Magic make Cameras with upgradable Sensors. The idea is not unique or unaccepted. Instead of the old practice of locking you into the Lens Mount type it would 'lock you in' to the Body, and whatever bits and pieces you had.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
Yeah different bodies would be cool. There are several sensor sizes for it but only one mount. If it would have been a hit, then who knows what they would have released next.
@rthiaga
@rthiaga 6 лет назад
Will pairing a full frame lens on Leica M module degrade the performance? I planning to buy this camera with Leica module and pair it with 7 Artisans 35mm f/2. Will it produce good images? I cannot afford Leica lenses. Or do I need to buy 7 artisans 35mm 1.2 (designed for APS-C) and pair it with M mount to E mount adapter. Which 7 artisans lens you suggest?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
No the 35mm f2 will work just fine. I recommend the 7Artsans 50mm f1.1. Its nice. Also Voigtlander lenses.
@rthiaga
@rthiaga 6 лет назад
Mattias Burling: I already have Minolta 50mm f1.4. Is it worth buying 7 artisans 50mm f1.1(it is wider than Minolta)? Will it produce better images than Minolta? By the way today I ordered an used Ricoh GXR with Leica M mount and VH-2 View finder for $440 (including shipping from Canada). I will share my finding after testing it. Thanks again.
@chrisleon4153
@chrisleon4153 5 лет назад
So how's the review? Already having experience with artisans 35mm f2 with gxr m module?
@rthiaga
@rthiaga 5 лет назад
Christian Leonardi i already got 35mm f2. It looks compact and captures awesome shots. I too have Minolta 50mm f1.4. It is equally good but it looks bulky with adapter also it becomes 75mm on crop sensor. Go with 50mm if you r interested in blurry backgrounds and for street photography 35mm would be ideal.
@chrisleon4153
@chrisleon4153 5 лет назад
@@rthiaga 35mm artisans is for ff, and will crop to 50mm on gxr module right?
@rheetam
@rheetam 4 года назад
GRIII or GXR?
@AriDerGamer
@AriDerGamer 6 лет назад
I'm probably one of the few lucky guys to have 2 of those lul xD
@am6610
@am6610 4 года назад
u still have em?
@thomkkl02
@thomkkl02 6 лет назад
Can u do a review on Sony A7 with contax G lenses
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
Thomas Kung Ive done so many A7 reviews that I think it might be a while until the next one.
@joaquindayrit5746
@joaquindayrit5746 7 лет назад
The lack of OVF is the one and only reason stopping me from ditching my DSLR sadly
@joaquindayrit5746
@joaquindayrit5746 7 лет назад
Dan Cogswell I agree about the real time exposure however the lag you do get in harsh lighting conditions and as you mentioned the sluggish Auto focusing speeds are simply a hinder when you just want to capture the moment but you aren't wrong. Knowing the results real-time is quite useful and reduces the risks of having over or under exposed shots
@hubzcaps
@hubzcaps 2 года назад
Happy puppy
@jedteng2650
@jedteng2650 6 лет назад
How about if they release a gxr2 ,improve the focus,higher pixel,tilty screen,evf...haha..
@johnlylin6057
@johnlylin6057 7 лет назад
What a coincidence. i just got a GXR with S10 module last week. I got it for a steal under 100, but the A12 is significantly better. Is it worth to invest 300 dollars more and get the M-mount and a decent lens? Is the S10 even comparable to the A12's sensor?
@johnlylin6057
@johnlylin6057 7 лет назад
thanks for the info man! on ebay, the 28mm a12 is twice the cost of a 50mm. i think have to go with the 50mm or spend a bit more for the a16. thanks again! Im just getting into this hobby and appreciate all the advice i can when it comes to a budget gear setup
@kiyarakhan7148
@kiyarakhan7148 6 лет назад
Please make a video of your camera collection
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
Manisha Eyasmin Since I only own two cameras it would be very short :)
@wyliebees3028
@wyliebees3028 7 лет назад
i may switch to a Leica camera for video if you have any suggestions. Currently using the BMPCC. Heres a project I shot with the BMPCC to give you and idea: vimeo.com/221081327
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
The only Leica worth using for video costs $$$$$$. I would stick with Blackmagic.
@basvoets6329
@basvoets6329 7 лет назад
I missed your voice.
@wazzupbeckham
@wazzupbeckham 5 лет назад
lol
@clipsTL
@clipsTL 7 лет назад
Found one with the M mount and 3 of its lenses for $500 brand new!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
Great buy!
@clipsTL
@clipsTL 7 лет назад
Mattias Burling I stand corrected, 4 lenses!
@clipsTL
@clipsTL 7 лет назад
Mattias Burling I stand corrected, 4 lenses!
@MrL0U13
@MrL0U13 7 лет назад
Such an underrated camera. Glad to see it being recognised again. Been using it for the past 2.5 years as my main. *shooting on a budget* but for what it's worth, I think it does the job quite well. Rangefinder is much faster to focus on still. Check my insta for the last 3 years of frames taken with a nokton 35 :) @mistaken_asian
@Baronvonbadguy3
@Baronvonbadguy3 4 года назад
Cuz your shots are rock solid 👌
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 5 лет назад
4:01
@Chris-ey7zy
@Chris-ey7zy 3 года назад
This is leaf shutter?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 3 года назад
Like all fixed lens cameras, the fixed lens modules are.
@vasilakiz
@vasilakiz 5 лет назад
Hello everyone! I got a deal in a Ricoh gxr with the 24-70 3.5-5.5...the image quality I get from it it’s worst than everything I ever experienced before from a digital camera,isn’t it suppose to be an APS-C sensor lens unit?a i doing something wrong?too soft images softer than a melting butter..if anyone has a set of settings to suggest I would be more than grateful,thank you.
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 лет назад
Are you sure the 24-70 is APS-C? I don't think it is.
@vasilakiz
@vasilakiz 5 лет назад
Mattias Burling yes it is..i mean the A16 module,basically is a 24-85...it’s really sucks,the quality is awful
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 лет назад
could you share images?
@vasilakiz
@vasilakiz 5 лет назад
Mattias Burling you want me to send you some files on your email?you prefer JPEG or raw files?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 лет назад
Don't you have them posted somewhere like flickr?
@roberthernandez454
@roberthernandez454 4 года назад
i love your boring pictures matt
@ANT-ER
@ANT-ER 7 лет назад
Hey Mattias! Have you thought about creating a Patreon account so subscribers could (if they want to) support you?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 7 лет назад
I looked into that once but it seemed annoying with tax and everything. One can always support by using one of my links when buying something at B&H or simply by sharing my videos on social media :)
@gman922
@gman922 4 года назад
needs an EVF
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 4 года назад
I had the EVF. Didn't use it much.
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 5 месяцев назад
How the hell can you describe this as a cheap Leica M8 when it has a CMOS sensor and your images look nothing like those from a CCD sensor ?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 месяцев назад
How the hell can you miss when I say that the colors look extremely similar? 😀
@guobinghuangbh98
@guobinghuangbh98 5 лет назад
It is not a cheap camera please!
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 5 лет назад
$200 compared to $1000 is cheap imo.
@hipstercrab5886
@hipstercrab5886 4 года назад
ughhh... nice camera, but i don't like it. it looks bad for me. if a camera doesn't inspire me to make photos, it's bad for me
@herobear
@herobear Год назад
Cool information! Thanks a lot !
@wheretheyhaveribs55
@wheretheyhaveribs55 6 лет назад
Question. Does the M mount produce the color or do you still need a leica lens?
@gearreallydoesntmatter
@gearreallydoesntmatter 6 лет назад
The colors if from the sensor. To get the look of a Leica lens you need a Leica, Zeiss, 7artisans, Voigtlander or something like that.
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