Great scene...I understood and my heart went out to BOTH of them! Both had valid reasons for saying what they said! My fav scene! LOVE CLANA...but this arguement is my favorite lol..im sry! FINALLY all feelings are out in the open! Clark calling Lana out on Lex, and Lana calling him out on what he does!
I watched this scene so many times & it still difficult 4 me to comment it. Again, I have a lump in my throat and can't hold back my tears. Can't see them suffering like this but I'm happy that they finally unburdened their heart. KK & TW are amazing in this scene! Truly amazing!
this is scene is as great as sad especially for being a clana fan but im happy that finally they TALK about their conflicts it was about time i couldnt stand forgiving and stupid clark anymore or innocent and silent lana this is what they need to do TALK fight even being apart with the pain of my heart if that will make them feel better for a time so then they can be in good terms it was about time!
I couldn't agree more. They took such care in developing the love between these two. I mean Johnathan died because of Clarks love for Lana. It all seems so totally messed-up
he's trying to say that its HER she can't face not him perhaps because of all the stuff with LEX and the other dude knowing later what she did was wrong.....
He holds her to such a high standard, and is overprotective with her. In this scene, he's just jealous about Bizarro. He just needed to loosen up (like in Season 8). He's so hot when he's not so uptight!
The thing everyone is missing is this. The love of a man’s life slept with another man. Understandable for a man to have to struggle with a whole assortment of feelings. It doesn’t matter if she had sex with Bizzarro or not. This is a mental brain buster to Clark. Now Lana believes that since she saw Bizzarro as Clark her true love, no harm no foul. Men don’t work that way. Then tag on all the lies and secrets Lana has kept. Lana needs to understand that Clark is torn apart by this. Clark has been honest with her since revealing his secret. Lana needs to take a more understanding and nurturing position. I’m time all will work itself out.
@Kyodai Ken1979 actually, the closest you are to someone, the less likely you are to notice something is wrong because you are more blinded by feelings and emotions, you are more biased and subjective and yu only see what you believe to be true about someone. Someone who is further away can see more easily because they have a more objective view on someone, they're not so blinded by emotions.
1) Lois KNEW DEFINITELY that Clark had a doppelganger and WAS READY to it. So all what she had to do is to distinguish between two people. Lana DIDN’T KNOW that Clark had a doppelganger. Also Bizarro had Clark's memories. Plus Bizarro came back exactly when Clark was a some time (!) in fortress, not suddenly (!). So “Clark” didn’t changed instantly. Do you remember their dialogue? They both thought to evaluate their priorities. Also after a some-time separation (!) he could tell her anything to make her believe him. I’ll give you examples: when Bizarro wanted Lana help revenge Lex, her face was a little surprised what meant she didn’t take it granted. Then he explained her he just realized all the pain Lex did her, that’s why he wanted to help. Also they were gonna _punish_ Lex, _not kill_ to prevent his crimes. Moreover, in 'Fade', Clark confessed Chloe he wouldn't like to save villains because they could have get hurt other people. Again we see 'Clark' changed his priorities not suddenly but after a long-time being apart with Lana (in the fortress). Then he offered her to fly to Paris, she said she was happy in Smallville (notice, she didn't take it for granted) and noticed Clark couldn’t fly. He explained her that she could make him feel flying. As we see it wasn’t too hard to fool a girl in love. And now, explain me, please, why Lana should have reject 'Clark's proposal to move on to Paris? What criminal do you see if your boyfriend makes you such an offer? Moreover, at first she did not agree immediately but said she was happy in Smallville. And as we learned from 'Red' episode, Clark _wanted_ to leave Smallville. He just lacked courage to do it. Pay attention, Bizarro had all Clark's memories except the time between 'Phantom' and 'Blue'. _However he could explain Lana EVERYTING without inciting suspicion._ Remember situations with 'Clark's' returning from the fortess, their conversation about Kara's disappearance, or their conversation about Lana's spying on Lex (although Bizarro couldn't know about that because she started her revenge when Bizarro had ALREADY took Clark's memories). Why Chloe suspected something? Because Bizarro couldn’t act normal, stay calm and explain anything (like in the case when he ‘forgot’ about the shield). When Chloe told Lana Clark wasn’t himself, at first she (Lana) didn’t believe her because during a month he didn’t do anything strange and abnormal. Then she listened to her words (what means Lana was not blinded) and asked Bizarro what was going on with his memory. Again he explained her that he DIDN’T FORGET about the shield, just COUDN’T FIND it. Pay attention, _with Chloe he lost control of himself. With Lana he always stayed calm and kept cool his head._ Also many people wonder how Lana couldn’t notice that “Clark” was able to sleep with her. I’ll explain. If real Clark after Jor-El’s training could control his powers and sleep with Lois, so why Bizarro couldn’t come up with something like that? Many people wonder why Lana didn’t notice that “Clark” forgot about Kara’s disappearance, but real Clark forgot about Kara too until he met her in phantom zone ACCIDENTLY. 2) Then Lois met Clark-2 once again in 7 episodes later. She was looking straight into his eyes when he was pretending to be Clark Kent. She believed him (!) until he broke the telescope (unlike Bizarro he hadn't Clark's memories). But a minute before they were talking about Earth-2 and Lionel’s-2 living in their world. So it wasn’t too hard to realize that it wasn’t real Clark. Why did Lois think it was Luthor, not for example “red” Clark, because a minute before they were talking about parallel Universe and Lionel-2 who moved to their world. Of course, the first thing that would come to her mind was that Ultraman was back. It they were not talking about Universe-2 and Lionel-2 who lived with them, we could definitely state that Lois still could tell the did between Clark and his other forms (“red” Clark, Clark Luthor, etc) . When real Clark came back he and Lana agreed to meet in Oliver’s apartment. But she didn’t know that Bizarro was eavesdropping their conversation. She WASN’T READY to meet him there. 3) Lois-2 didn’t know anything about Clark-2’s doppelganger. When she first met Clark Kent, she was shocked and couldn’t believe him. But then calmed down, Lois-2 realized that it was a different person, not Clark Luthor. When Clark came back and told Lana the truth, she was shocked and couldn’t believe (because she didn’t know anything about his doppelganger as Lois-2). Due to the shock, she became delusinal for a moment saying _'Chloe said that you've been having troubles with your memory.'_ Although Lana knows perfectly it was impossible (it proves the scene where she was surprised at Chloe’s words that he forgot something). But then calmed down, she realized that it was real Clark. And she wasn’t disappointed. She was just shocked that she had been living with an impostor. Chloe suspected Bizarro. That's why she believed easily Clark that there was the impostor. But still she couldn't tell the difference. _Clark: 'Chloe, look me in the eye'._ _Chloe: 'Nice try. But from what I've heard, everything about the two of you is exactly the same, right down to your baby blues'._ _Clark: 'If I was the phantom, direct sunlight ... would make my face change. It's me'._ _Chloe: 'Oh, my God. Thank God it's you'._ Lana didn't suspect that there was the impostor. That's why at first she didn't believe (like Lois-2). But then Clark repeated her calmy _'It wasn't me, Lana'._ And she believed! Pay attention, Lana didn't demand Clark to stay in the sunlight to prove his words. She just looked in his eyes and recognized him! 4) s10ep10, when Clark was convincing it was him, and Lois recognized him. She saw his doppelganger A FEW HOURS AGO. Of course, mentally she WAS READY (!!!) that there were two Clarks. Regarding the fact that a few seconds ago there was Luthor, not Kent. Lois, probably, already _knew_ how the mirror box works (if someone takes it, he could transport into different Universe). When they gave him it, it wasn’t excluded that _real_ Clark could transfer back. s2ep11, when Lana suddenly saw two Clarks (one of them was Tina Greer). Real Clark was convincing that it was him. But she saw his doppelganger (Tina) A FEW SECONDS AGO. Of course, she was shocked and mentally WASN'T READY (!!!). In conclusion, if Smallville authors wanted to show that Clark's soulmate is Lois, not Lana, they would put them (Lana&Lois) in the SAME situation, not DIFFERENT. So it's not fair to state that Lana couldn't recognize real Clark, but Lois could. Pay attention, Lois could tell difference (touches and kisses) between _Clark and other people._ Regarding telling the difference between _Clark and his doppelgangers_ (again touches, kisses, looking in the eye), she could recognize who was who only if she _knew definitely_ or _expected_ that it was either Clark or impostor (the situation with Clark Luthor in 'Kent', when Lois saw him again in 7 episodes. She didn't expect to meet him. So she didn't recognize him after holding and touching his hand). In 'Kent', when they gave Clark Luthor the mirror box, in several seconds real Clark came back. At _that_ time, Lois, probably, knew how the box works. So _Kent’s and Luthor’s switching places back was not excluded._ At first, she thought it was an _imposter_ (she _knew_ about his doppelganger), and only when he started convincing her it was him, she looked into his eyes _carefully_ and recognized him. Talking about 2 seconds when Ultraman was given the box, then immediately after that Clark Kent was back). Do you really think after being aimed by green kryptonite, instead of asking to believe him (he even didn’t know they would not shoot him immediately), Ultraman wouldn’t return in 2 seconds to his own world to save his ass? And according to Tess and Oliver’s reaction at the end of the scene, they felt or guessed too that it was _real_ Clark. Otherwise, they would say to Lois: _’Don’t come any closer to him. At first we should test him asking questions about the life of Clark Kent’._ Or something like that. But they just gave up and believed Lois’ words. After that Tess had mixed feelings, Oliver was disappointed because they didn’t catch the villain.
By the way, a person who really could tell the difference between Clark and not Clark *without knowing about doppelgängers* and confessions _'It's me, Clark'_ was Martha. In 'Transference' when Clark and Lionel switched the bodies she immediately noticed that something was wrong with her son through looking in his eyes. 'Something is not right. I can see it through your eyes'. (c) Martha Summing it up, Lois could tell the difference between Clark and his doppelganger ONLY IF: 1) she _knew_ there was an imposter ('Luthor'), or that he came back ('Kent'); 2) real Clark would be convincing her it was him, after that she looked onto his eyes _carefully_ and felt the difference ('Luthor'). Unlike Martha, who could feel real Clark _without_ knowing about imposters and _not_ listening to confessions like _'It's me, Clark'._ Regarding Lana's words _'He's finally opened up and let me in',_ as if real Clark never trusted Lana completely. In 'Lara', Clark's words _'I told you I wanted to share everything with you'._ In 'Siren', Clark's words _'You're supposed to know me better than anyone'._ Such scenes prove Clark indeed opened up to Lana and let her in. As I mentioned above, Bizarro could up with something to explain why he was able to sleep with her without any hurting. Then when he mentioned he would fly to Paris, she noticed he couldn't fly. He explained her, she was able to make him fly. So Bizarro could tell knew facts about himself, and Lana could take that as if Clark probably hadn't told her about himself everything.
Also there are episodes where we see that both Lana and Lois could feel Clark. Lois: 1) s6ep13, Clois was kissing, and Lois realized they had kissed before (s6ep10); 2) s9ep21, Zod was pretending to be the Blur, Lois touched his hand and realized he lied; 3) same episode, the Blur kissed Lois and she realized it was Clark. Lana: 1) s1ep1, she was going to come in her house. Clark was standing far enough from her and said “Thanks for the dance, Lana”. She immediately turned as if she heard him; 2) s2ep23, Clana was sitting and hugging in the field. We see Clark’s eyes (but Lana doesn’t see!) showing worrying because Jor-El had said he must leave his beloved ones. Suddenly Lana became worrying too and asked him “Are you ok?” Then Clark’s eyes *How did she learn that I’m worrying?* Clark: s7ep3, Lana returned and was staying behind Clark’s back. He thought she was dead. Then Lana touched his shoulder, and we saw his face showing *Sh*t, I know this touch.* Clark&Lana s7ep1, they, being at different ends of the world, were looking at the moon and thinking about each other.
Regarding Lana's words to Bizarro (before 'Persona' events) that she had *never was so happy like with him.* Let's analyze her statements. In 'Hidden', she said that _'...no one could make her happier than' Clark._ In 'Action', it was enough the scene when Clark coght falling Lana, and their looks full of _so much tenderness._ So we can conclude the only thing that was lack in the only thing that was lack of their relationship was sex. As we all saw, Clark was afraid of having sex with Lana. Bizarro could control himself (if real Clark could sleep with Lois after Jor-El's training, so why Bizarro couldn't come up with something like that?). As we all saw, Clark was afraid of having sex with Lana. Bizarro could control himself (he could come up with something to explain it Lana). She thought Bizarro was Clark (see above why she didn't recognized the impostor), accordingly, she expressed her feelings to him (Clark). That's why she was happier with him (Bizarro). Also Lana's words to Chloe that he was more understanding. At the beginning of 'Gemini' she was gonna stop spying on Lex because Clark didn't like her actions. But Bizarro insisted she was doing right things. But when real Clark came back, she stopped spying on Lex again. And her words to him _'he was more understandable, and you are a hypocrite'_ are just defensive reaction, not true emotions, to ease her pain (because indeed she was blaming herself, although it wasn't her fault). Then in 'Persona' when Lana was gonna kill Bizarro, he started lying her that he knew what was in Clark's mind, that he (Clark) doesn't love her so much, that he was lying to himself. All what Bizarro used to do towards Clark is reducing his (Clark's) already low self-esteem. So we should not believe his words. Then Lana was looking at Clark as if she was doubting his feelings. But actually, she was just playing along to him to trick him. Then he believed her and offered her his hand. At first Lana hesitating before taking his hand but not because she didn't know who she was gonna choose. She wasn't a murderer, she couldn't kill even such villain like Bizarro. Then she plucked up her resolve and put the kryptonite in his hand. I compare this scene with another one in 'Kara'. Lana treathened Lex to shoot him but at the last moment she didn't do it. Although no one would blame her because she was 'dead' for the whole world, plus she had 10 million dollars after her divorce, she could get away with her crime. Even Lex _knew_ she was not a murderer. So it’s obvious all the other times (‘Nemesis’ and ‘Wrath’) Lana’s purpose was not kill but _scare_ him. She wouldn’t let him die no matter. She even stopped Clark in ‘Requiem’ when he was gonna kill Lex. In ‘Idol’ when Clark’s voice disguise was broken, she learned that he and Red Blue were the same person. Then at the end Clark proved her that it was not true. Later we see Lois’ conversation with her doctor. She (Lois) says that after revealing Clark and the superhero are two different people and hearing the Blur’s voice again, something stirred inside of her and her thoughts keep coming back to Clark. The doctor answered that was because “it’s perfectly natural, Lois, to project the heroics of the unattainable men you tend to fall for onto someone close to you”. Here I agree with her because that means subconsciously Lois _wanted_ Clark and the superhero were the same person. Because it's easy and romantic to fall in love with a mysterous man who has superabilities and saves a lot of people. If they wanted to show us Lois could recognize Clark's soul, it would be logical, for example, Zatanna transformed Clark into other man (like she did Chloe into Lois), and she (Lois) fall in him no matter what. That is, even with different appearance, Clark was the one for her unlike Lana who fall in the different man with Clark's face. And don't forget about the beginning of 'Isis', when Lois' patience was over, and she was gonna tell Clark herself that she knew his secret. She was rehearsing _'Hey, Clark. You're Blurific', 'Clark, you don't have to hide the truth any longer. I know your secret, and I get why you didn't tell me for so long, but the fact is: _*_knowing you're the Blur just it makes me love you even more.'_* (Hello to Lana's words about Bizarro). *Summing it up, we can conclude that in the cases of Bizarro and The Blur both Lana and Lois were equal.*
Clark being judgmental is true, but him being hypocritical is false. He told Lana several times in the last several episodes that she's not that far off from her good side. The reality of Clana is that they do not know each other very well.
Really? Did you forget the ending of 'Fade' when Clark admitted Chloe he wouldn't like to save villans? And when he went to the fortess and Bizarro returned some time passed. Lana was gonna stop spying Lex because Clark didn't like her actions but Bizarro insisted her doings were right. Pay attention to her face expression, when he said he wanted to help her _punish_ Lex (not kill), she was surprised, what says she didn't take it for granted. But if Clark who earlier ('Fade') said he wouldn't like to save villains and after being apart from Lana (who decided to stop spying on Lex _for Clark)_ for some time, why he couldn't change his mind too to punish (not kill) his old friend to prevent his following crimes?
alright clark needs to stop giving lana such a hard time over the stuff she regrets already..clark aint perfect..he needs to get over it..so they can move on in they relationship...
