Classic Hollywood Stars Who Were Terribly Racist Off-Camera 

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I grew up during the civil rights movement Blacks didn't have access to the same education as,white students. I remember one black child saying how thrilled he was to have a new textbook..before that they were given old worn out text books. So I think John Wayne's comments meant whites should be in charge until Blacks had the opportunity to better themselves with a good education.

@@briang.7206 I grew up in black areas and went to school with plenty of blacks as a result. They ALL had the same education and supplies as whites. Quit with the BS

Woody Strode was a very good actor but he never got a lead role. He played Wayne's servant, and he played a racist role in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. No one made him do that. He got paid well for it. Hollywood as a whole was racist for many years. As for being anti-homosexual, That is not a bad thing because it is sickening. We should not treat anyone bad but a person never has to say it is okay.

Math is racist, so snow must be racist because it is white! This is Marxist logic. GO WOKE, GO BROKE!!!

What are you trying to accomplish

@@mariamccarthy9533 this video is trying to show some sort of "jaw dropping unheard of facts" but everyone knows time was different back then, almost everyone was racist

@@THEVOIDZ Not true. Only ignorant people are racist. Thank God that he didn’t create everything ‘white. He brought beauty into the world by creating ‘COLOR’.

@@THEVOIDZ Agree things were very different back them BUT NOT EVERYONE WAS RACIST!!!!

@@slomo1716 Nobody said everyone was racist. I said ALMOST everybody was racist.

In Miami, Cubans are notorious for their hostility toward blacks. Interesting thing most Americans don't know.

Frawley was told if he ever showed up drunk, he would be fired.

William Frawley was known as a drunk & people were hesitant to hire him. So yes, Desi did have to demand that they hire Frawley. Desi even paid for his funeral.

Frawley drank but he was even more addicted to BASEBALL from the first day of spring training to the last game of the World Series. He actually had a clause in his contract that if the Yankees (his fave team) was in the World Series,, he would be written out of any shows filmed then so he could attend. He got to use it too.

Agreed. I'm not violent at all but if he said that within earshot of me I probably would have punched him in the mouth.

Even though he was a heavy drinker, a woman beater, an adulterer, and graduated from the Highlander Folk School, a communist training school.

@@jamessilva7991 I would have.

@@user-hb4gx4qs8p”Woman beater” Any source for that or are you just talking out of your ass? As if that would outweigh the good that King accomplished anyway…

Here, here!

So because he volunteered to be a bomber pilot, that means he can’t be a racist? 🤔

@@robertjacksonjr I didn't say that

@@robertjacksonjr Yawn, another leftist trying to mine for racism in the past to screech about. A better use of ones time might be reflecting on men, and women like him, and that served with him, who fought to preserve the right to engage in such paltry, attention getting histrionics in a public forum.

I believe that there was only one job more dangerous -- that of a sailor in the Merchant Marine in the Atlantic Ocean.

Jimmy Stewart was raised in a town called Indiana, PA

Actually, he was promoted to Major General.

Every picture I ever saw of Jimmy Stewart in uniform was with one star which is a Brigadier General. Truly amazing.

@@ronniefranks4351 he was promoted to the AF Reserves retirement list as a MG in 1985, a few years after he retired in 1968.

@@bob44044 Indiana, PA has a branch of Penn State.

Did he call everyone the n word?

How did he know you were Jewish were you wearing a yamaka?

@@Moose803 They call thier that Name..Problem?

@@Rayritten1 English please

That doesn't make any difference that he grew up not saying any black people I met a white girl that grew up in Iowa that never seen any black people she didn't turn out to be a racist and I'm starting to realize that the actors that played nice on television are really the mean motherfukers and the people that play mean I really the nice ones

Beat me to it. I am a Hoosier and caught that error immediately. I wonder how many "facts" they have slipped by us that were just as wrong that we didn't catch. They should demonetize this site if they are this sloppy with the facts.

The entire thing is misguided opinions. Facts don't have anything to do with this BS site.

Not right to dishonor someone when you thought he grew up in the State of Indiana couldn’t even get that right he grew up in Indiana Pa.

That one fact was incorrect however, he was shot on with those actors being racist. There are other videos out there about this. Especially James Stewart and John Wayne. Jimmy use to use the n word all the time. They skipped old Walt Disney. He was one of the worst. 😡

CCP AI "web sites" are getting pretty good. Their propaganda and synthetic voices are almost believable.

That’s a good name I approve

@Dan Pendergrass: You can judge people of a certain time period if they refused to change throughout their lifetime. All the actors that were in this report remained racist and/or xenophobic throughout their lives! So, you can miss me the whataboutisms to suppress racism! This country will never be potentially great until they truly address the issues and start practicing inclusion & love!

Amen

I cant be swayed.I grew up trying to talk like John Wayne, and got pretty good at sounding like Jimmy. Even if I believed what I just read, ( which I dont) These two were in tge top ten of my favs. But their beliefs dont trickle to me..I have many favorite actors from all flavors of being. , Woody, Mr. Crothers from the shining, Denzel, Will ,Jim Brown, Carl Weathers, Mr Poitier and many others.I couldnt be swayed simply by hearsay or idle gossip.÷

OK, Jerry Weaver. Please work on getting black people of all ages interested in practicing inclusion and love toward white people. For the record - many black people are extremely racist too! A lot of times that is never mentioned. AND, it is long past time for black people to stop pretending to be perpetual victims!!

Conservative = racist.

I know right!? All because of 1 actor made an accusation, and We have no idea what it was. His military career, and being a general officer in the US Air Force wasn’t even mentioned. If he was racist it would of been discovered.

They had a huge argument about the McCarthy hearings in the early 1950s and made that rule, I have read . . . .

Nah, I believe he was a racist just like your racist ass hero John Wayne. I hate I even thought they were decent people - SMH

Oh give me a break…I’m sure you don’t believe Black people and minorities if they say they experienced racism today as well. The video would be too long if he explained it. It’s a simple google search to find out what Stewart said on that set to the Black actor.

The reasons the punishments can't be applied equally is because the offenses aren't applied equally

Oh do tell us of your Irish struggle!

@@howardsung108 Do your own research .

@@howardsung108 Like the didn't like not only the English, Welsh and Scottish many British are prejudiced amongst their own people.

@@danielstadden1149 Lol

It's an undisputed fact that John Wayne had to be physically restrained as he was attempting to go on stage and hurt Sacheen Littlefeather when she stood in for Marlon Brando as he declined the Oscar win because of Hollywood's portrayal of Native Americans. If you don't think racism was involved, then please explain to me why some random dude would be physically hostile to a stranger who was simply the messenger.

That seems to be all it takes these days.

Excellent point.

A hit piece like so many others; the yellowest of yellow journalism and that's probably too much compliment for these pompous fools peddling this garbage.

I agree. He says that Woody Strode accused James Stewart of being a racist but he never says exactly what Stewart did or said or gives any details at all. Without details it's just a worthless accusation.

Irascible.....l LIKE that word.

EXACTLY. Thank YOU.

Quotes I've heard from the John Wayne Playboy interview weren't nearly as bad as inplied by many. I've heard he also was prejujudiced about hispanics - forgetting who his wives were.

@@terrykeever3280 depends on what type of Hispanic it is a lot of Mexicans are spanish and indian. But do you think john wayne would have married a Afro blk woman or a blk woman!!!!!! Uh no!!!!!! David Bowie did marry a blk woman be he had an open mind not a man of his racist times like john wayne was!!!!!!!!

Yea, this video is so full of nonsense all the way down to them saying Jimmy Stewart was from Indiana, he wasn't from Indiana, he was from Pennsylvania, not far from where I live, he was born and raised in a small town called Indiana. And that nonsense about Woody Strode was just that, nonsense, Woody never accused Jimmy Stewart of racism, I've read so many articles about the making of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and Strode never did anything but sing praises for everyone involved in making the movie except for John Ford who bullied people around on the set especially Wayne who he seemed to take great delight in torturing. This video is a bunch of lies made up for the sake of sensationalism and getting clicks for their monetary value.

@@dukecraig2402 this sounds much closer to what I know

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Maybe Facts Verse is racist and should change their name to Prejudice Verse

There is à James Stewart airport in Indiana, PA. Same place as Indiana University of Pennsylvania

Ironic that “Facts Verse” is very sloppy on its facts! Many of its videos are riddled with inaccuracies.

@@Darvec It’s interesting to note that he acknowledges these people were born and grew up in a different time then proceeds to judge them by today’s standards.

No they didn’t. He was a racist.

I'm pretty sure racists rarely talk bad about each other.

It doesn't matter what these actors thought it was their business and they were Intiled of freedom of speech

@@helenphair4745 Freedom of speech is freedom of government interference. Anyone can say whatever they want but there are consequences. When John Wayne espoused his racist views in Playboy he was no longer making it his own business.

@@tracejohnson5519 that's life I say people should be able to say whatever they like right or wrong

@@helenphair4745 They can say whatever they want now, but, there are consequences. You can't expect people not to react when you or anyone else says something ignorant like John Wayne did in the Playboy interview. The principal of freedom of speech works both ways.

So true hmm odd thou for him but all nice .

But, but, but - *racism* and *xenophobia* !!! /sarc

@@gary6449 yeah, but his last longterm girlfriend was white, lol. Is that racism too?

@@thehair1474 wasn’t aware of that.

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How do you know?

There were accounts from black actors that he was racist. I believe them. Just because he plays nice guys on screen doesn't mean he didn't have racist views.

@@terriw919 He doesn’t play nice guys, he plays psychopaths. If I recall correctly, Dean Martin once called him “the nicest guy on television” in a roast. I’ve never heard an account of him bei a racist.

@@terriw919 - There's No Accounts from black actors saying he was racist. None... Zip! The author Michael Mann tried to put words in the mouth of one actor, but Mann has pretty much been discredited as a source of reliable information. Sorry, but you dont know what you're talking about.

Racism Doesnt exist to most racist white people Lol Always an excuse

There were countless people who lived back then in those times who WEREN'T racist. Please don't defend their hateful views with it was "a sign of the time". The made a choice to be so and especially to remain so..

@@wendigo1919 Trust me- I’m not trying to defend Racism. I just lived in a time where I remember it being more prevalent. I’m not saying it was right! I’m merely pointing out that I was born in the early 50’s.I remember some things being more normal than they should have been. The people they’re talking about here were born near the turn of the century. You really do have to take that fact into account. Even the others who complained of these people were never really mentioned. So, without knowing the person personally, it’s hard to base a judgment. I applaud the African American Community for the strides they’ve made and well deserve. They fought for this country. Their battle was nothing but uphill. I’m just not going to agree with something because I’m hearing it on Social Media- That’s All

@@wendigo1919 there's not a person on this planet now or in all of history who hasn't had some racist thoughts in their life, it's human nature

@@wendigo1919 please is not wanted needed or necessary it’s very very annoying like the Trump crime family

No one was ever burned at the stakes in Salem, Mass.

lol They're known racists. How is that besmirching them. They made their opinions known. Clearly you have no problem with racists and racist "follower of Christ". Great name. lol

@@wendigo1919 Wendigo get over yourself Grow up and get s life.

@@wendigo1919 you have jungle fever we get it lol

Thank you! I second that emotion. Although I get a TINY bit peeved [I'm too old to hold on to frustration from a million years ago] when Mantan Morland appears in a 1940s movie, I simply CAN'T STAND today's trash. From what I've noticed when I see a movie of today advertised, Hollywood feels compelled to keep pace with every Godd*mned new "identity" invented. There are now 72 (or 76) so-called "different" gender identities [actually, there are only TWO. Chromosomes ain't woke], and I wouldn't be surprised if Hollywood creates a movie featuring ALL 72. I never view ANY of them. In the evening, my wife and I have been trying to get through all the 4-star [IMBD-rated] 1940s. After that, we're gonna check out all the 3-star 1940s movies. Then we're going to watch the 1950s movies. A certain ideology [seems like a RELIGION!!] is ruining the culture. One wonders if we'll ever recover.

You mean like the 1930s "Baby Burlesks" and the physical & sexual abuse of Shirley Temple and other children? The racism in those early movies made me cringe as a child! James Stewart was antisemitic? What a laugh! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

"Standards" ???

Why can't you?

Todays standards are low.

And those who overuse it are themselves quite racist. They are total hypocrites.

need a safe space?

Even just a few years ago in living color and married with children can’t fly today even cartoons today is just too damn delicate they went overboard

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Absolutely but it gives society today a reason to vilify those actors we enjoyed and to destroy monuments and change names of airports etc.

Yes, norms change, but it is fair to take a closer look at the actors of the past and adjust your views of them. We do have people that have overly romanticized such actors as Stewart and Wayne and say ridiculous things like "why can't there be people today like them"? I will enjoy a John Wayne movie, but I've known for a while that he was a s**t human being, racist as all get out, and turning in colleagues during McCarthyism. It is like people that refuse to believe in any history that doesn't show America was "perfect".

Hate is hate no matter what year it is

@William Clark ~ Judging people by the content of their character is now considered racist.

That is a massive part of the content of their character... being RACIST. Unless you think being racist is no big deal.

@@wendigo1919 r.....WHOOSH

@@leewhitaker538 hundred upvotes

loved jimmy stewart

There are racist jokes that involve murder and some that actually showcase the intellect of the person in the joke, often at the expense of White people. Same way with homophobic jokes. There’s a difference between laughing at Matthew Shepherd and good naturedly pointing out true stereotypes. People need to loosen up. The Latino community is the only one with a sense of humor!!!

You are a horrible and irredeemable piece of shit. We are all utterly appalled--and deeply disappointed. I cannot imagine what you could ever do to make up for what you've done. You could try a really humbling, abject apology, but generally that just makes it worse for you. You deserve whatever misfortune befalls you at this point.

Nobody now or in the future would condemn you for what you explained in your past - you state that you didn't realise that it was a racist joke and apologised etc. Now if you did not respond as you did but continued to hold racist / prejudice views ; then that would be a different story would it not...

I guess you would, he probably wouldn't hate you either if you're White

He lies for views and comments. He does it all the time! He's told lies on tons of beloved celebrities just to piss you and I off for views. Report him and don't watch his channel.

rightly said

Makes it so easy to accuse people who are dead.

Walter Brennan was well-known to be a racist while he was alive. That fact that he’s dead does change that.

Yeah, Just shoot the dead horse why dont they?

Absolutely true.

They didn't exactly hide their opinions....

Don't believe everything you hear on this site or the internet.

@@michealfriedman7084 For sure. Can you perhaps answer the question...

@@TesseRact7228 Do you know, because I don't. Everything is heresy. It's so easy to attack and make accusations when someone is dead...you can't defend yourself.

@@michealfriedman7084 I have no idea - that's why I posed the question.

@@TesseRact7228 You would have to do your own research.

OMG!! Please, please do not give them any ideas

@@jcbulldog533 Damn! You beat me to it!

The truth hurts doesn't it

@@danielstadden1149 Nice try! Not truth...it's INNUENDO!! (😄👋🏾)

Those who tend to forget their history are bound to repeat it

Racist people no matter the color or creed are what is plaguing the world with all these problems

Yeah but those guys with the white hat they take the cake

Morality? Morals have never changed in humankind.

I agree it seems cowardly to attack people who are dead.

@@rackyjaeckel1644 Yeah, I just don't understand why people continue to pyle on Adolph Hitler, he was just a product of his times.

@@danielstadden1149 Of course, someone had to bring up Hitler, the average guy that he was. All these Hollywood stars had the same effect on civilization no doubt.

I agree 100%.

I'm sure John Wayne meant something else when he said he was a white supremacist in that interview. I'm sure he didn't mean what everyone thinks he meant, right?

Thank you. You get it. This is people desperately seeking to be offended. Whoever runs this pathetic channel is a hardcore victocrat, smearing the memory of the defenseless dead, and bathing in their own victimhood and smug sanctimony. I read that interview when it came out--the guy was just a plain talker, and gave his honest--and not at all unreasonable or malicious--opinion. Of course, that was back when everyone was actually ALLOWED to have their own opinions and employ whatever English words they pleased.

LOL it's funny how so many white people refuse to call racism what it is. John Wayne did not even want to give black actors a major role in the movie the Green Berets. I have read the Playboy interview many times. Guess what.....THATS DIRECT RACISM. As a black man who is a combat veteran with a Masters degree, I have seen racism directly even though in my 54 years, I have never even had a parking ticket. This country was BUILT off racism. The orange RACIST draft dodger trump gave all the bigots a massive green light. Many of you will forever deny how racist this country is, but it does not matter. IGNORANCE is beyond bliss.

The guy that put this video together is light on facts and long on conjecture and assumption

This “Woke” crap doesn’t mean anything to normal people. It’s part of white supremacy jargon. We can discuss if peoples shortcomings are forgivable or if a persons’ attitudes were typical for the times when they lived. But it isn’t debatable that they were racists. Ignoring that is just living in denial. Reminds me of people that are trying to rewrite the civil war and suddenly discover that it wasn’t about slavery. Have some integrity.

During WW II, one reason his men respected him so much was that, unlike many other officers, he always stayed in the tower, waiting for the very last plane to make it back from a bombing mission.

OK them we won't call out bigots supporters of slavery, those who commit genocide and attocities because that's a cheapshot since they are dead now rme

They'd probably fight back with racist comments.

The results of hardcore colonialism, loss of cultural norms and religious customs. It's not the black African or the Pakistani next door who changed the vibes of your city but the fact that your ancestors thought that colonialism was a good idea. You get the gold, you lose your self.

@@olgaath1511 Wrong. A very poorly argued and simplistic statement. Govt policy is almost totally to blame.

This might be one of the most distressing comments I've read on YT. You so proudly display your xenophobia. Truly shameful.

lmao 😃😂 you cried and don't want to come back, because everybody doesn't look the same living there anymore. Get over it.

Inaccurate is your interpretation of John Wayne's quote. John Wayne said is that their are far to few blacks in acting and the movie industry's schools so the level of talent and numbers are just a fraction of that to the whites, and untill that changes the whiles will continue to dominate because of the ratio of blacks to whites attending film and acting Colleges.

Umm, Samuel L Clemens, aka Mark Twain, was born in Florida, Missouri, and raised in Hannibal, Missouri. Perhaps you should do more research.

You'd put it brilliantly, thanks:-)

@@cherylrichards8951 where he came from is redundant

Many people hope that by 100 years in the future, blax will have finally learned how to assimilate into white society. It would be to their benefit to do so.

Hey, Walter Brennan had something happen in his life that may account for his strange behavior. He was in WW! and was sprayed with some kind of purple gas and after that he was never the same. People said he was quiet, reserved and intelligent before the incident.

I like that.

Racism is a disposition acquired, we are born with an empty template excluding our genes. We are influenced by our parents and the environment born into. Who are you to determine what was racist 70 years ago? Interesting question, am I my brother's keeper, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, Luke 6:31. Ideology and conformity, history gives a lesson with Nazi Germany, when will people learn? There are 7 people who don't know along with you.

You can criticize today as well as old times. Just cause things are shitty today doesn't mean they weren't even shittier in the past.

At that time ,I based my ideas of GOOD, BAD---RIGHT , WRONG ,ETC on how other drivers OBSERVED or FAILED to obey the rules of the road .

Boo hoo🙄

WWII Bomber pilot

Did you listen to his follow up comment to slavery? That they need more education for him to have thought it to be wrong? Or I guess you missed that part. Nope, I guess he wasn't racist at all. Love how you're defending his comment.

@@wendigo1919 Thats a pathetic attempt.....keep trying

I believe Stewart was a Brigadier General in the United States Air Force Reserves.

Stewart's racial bias and anti-semitism made me turn off on him - read about his anti-black issues during WWII - also he had a pretty bad temper - his wife (I read) said he was like Jekell and Hyde.

Nice to see a decent person's reply for a change. Fairness & Kindness haven't ceased to matter, despite being out of vogue the past few years. Compassion is Not something to be vilified nor mocked. (The people who demand empathy from others seem to have none of that quality to spare for those less fortunate, have you noticed? Yet they fail to see the Karma they've created for themselves). Thanks for reminding us that Not everyone is a hateful racist dipsh*t these days, even though it sometimes seems like it. 😉

You do you. People who are "kind" and care about the feelings of others don't need to support racists or their work. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I get it you are not Black, but you are a woman so don't think that these guys would think you equal to them.

@@dearrationals You're right. True Racists & Misogynists utterly lack both Fairness & Kindness. They are broken people, seething in their own feelings of impotence, seeking to subjugate others for that rush of "power" they crave, to fill a hole inside themselves which Nothing will ever truly fill. Today, as in the past, they're mental patients, very likely child abuse victims, who've not yet found treatment. And they won't, b/c our society Only cares about $$$ now. Even the Richest, like a certain former "prez" who has long hero-worshipped Nazis, won't get the help they really need, b/c No One will hold rich folks accountable for their wrong doing. We can hate the horrid actions & the attitudes that perpetuate harm, while still pitying the abused children they once were. None of us is born hating other humans. That garbage is taught. We need to unteach a whole lot of people, but we can't, b/c the rich but broken ones in power won't allow it. So, we must find some way to do better by Today's children, instead: no matter their color, religion, gender identity, family wealth, origin, etc. If we truly want to to build anything "great", we need to start at the beginning, in childhood (which requires us to actually care about poor kids as more than political tools to achieve Power). We need to fund Public Ed properly & Not use subpar schools as conveyor belts feeding for-profit prisons. Nothing "great" will ever be built w/ hate, nor inequality. What we'll get instead is repeated "Gilded Ages". Gilding is merely covering garbage w/ a shiny coating so it looks nicer. But it's still Trash. I often wonder how many Einsteins were left undiscovered b/c No One who could invest in them did so. How many times have we missed world-changing discoveries, the cure for cancer, methods to save a planet for our grandkids, etc.? The racists & sexists of our world are "better" than No One. The ones I've met are actually terrible humans. They serve as a warning sign of what abuse of children eventually creates. Often, it's a monster in human form. Further proof? Over a million people didn't die of a "Hoax!". They died b/c too many uncaring people embraced the words of a cult leader who purposely stirs up chaos b/c he enjoys causing pain, and truly cares about No One. This era is Tragic. May it end w/o taking the decent portion of humanity with it.

@@ernestwalker2260 True. I pray that reincarnation is possible. In a fair universe, all racists & sexists would return in the form of their previous targets, and have to deal w/ a multitude of people exactly like their former incarnations. That may be the only way such broken souls would be able to continue evolving... through harsh experience. Oh well, one can still dream.

Mr. Skidmore you are correct. Carelessly researched.

Just cause racism is still around doesn't make past racism right.

@ 123612100 Exactly 💯

@@123612100 so reverse racism is ok ! That’s what we have today!

@@melvinhunt6976 there's no such thing as reverse racism. Racism is just racism.

@@123612100 lve been there l know what it is! It would be gone if we could get rid of the democrats, who just steal our money and keep people mad !

You are not from a minority group so you wouldn't understand. 🇬🇧 based

@@maureenjackson2041 So typical for you to assume and say that How do you live everyday being in a state of victim hood? For the record, I'm an immigrant representing 2 "minority" groups I speak 3 languages and have experienced and witnessed my parents experience racism and biased

@@kazitude1 JUST go make me a SAMMICH!!!!

These are well-documented incidents of racism and bigotry by some members of Hollywood. And, tbh, I have heard of all these ppl before I watched the video. Yes, Walter Brennan DID celebrate when MLK was assassinated. He did that. To excuse his racism as “being part of the times” is a flimsy attempt to excuse his repulsive behavior.

@@robertjacksonjr BULL SHIT And UN VERIFIED , still NO PROOF.....in other words..FAKE NEWS 😂😂😂

And that's what you take from this?? Clearly you have some dark hateful secrets you're harbouring if that's your response.

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Correct. Go back 100 years. Should everyone who did not fight for women's suffrage be labeled a sexist? Were women in the 1950s guilty of animal cruelty because they wore fur coats? Go back to pre-1970s, how many blacks were leading men in Hollywood? Was Sidney Poitier the only black capable of being a leading man? It's either that or all of Hollywood is racist or, that was simply the lay of the land in that era.

Being a rat makes you a scumbag though.

I thought the same thing

except when you have quite a far right person like John Wayne outright saying he believes in white supremacy....yeah it's hard to not get the impression that he was indeed racist.

@@naitthegr8131 I only watched Jimmy Stewart, seemed lame.

@@naitthegr8131 My comment still stands. Wayne was one out of how many? Look at Joe Biden and Hillary heaping praise on Senator R. Byrd, a high-ranking KKK member. Do you condemn all democrats as racist? Don't forget democrat legacy in slavery and Jim Crow.