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No Phyrexian invasion would be complete without some legends becoming compleat. This episode, we’re breaking down these transforming terrors from March of the Machine. We’ll tell you how to make these two-faced Commanders tick, showing off the combos and synergies that’ll let you take over your next Commander night.
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:03:49 - Main Topic Discussion
00:04:42 - Ayara, Widow of the Realm // Ayara, Furnace Queen
00:29:18 - Etali, Primal Conqueror // Etali, Primal Sickness
00:40:43 - Glissa, Herald of Predation
00:52:44 - Heliod, The Radiant Dawn // Heliod, the Warped Eclipse
01:03:08 - Omnath, Locus of All
01:16:08 - Polukranos Reborn // Polukranos, Engine of Ruin
01:26:35 - Rona, Herald of Invasion // Rona, Tolarian Obliterator
01:43:38 - Our Favorite Compleated Commander from MOM?
01:44:58 - Most Powerful Compleated Commander from MOM?
01:46:10 - Outro
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@commandcast 11 месяцев назад

What do you think of the March of the Machine Compleated Commanders? Are you planning on building any of them? Are there any synergies or combos that we missed?

@DieFrauAmHerd 11 месяцев назад

Yes

@LordRedhand 11 месяцев назад

I've got an Ayara deck built around being Mono-black with some red activated abilities and Hybrid costs.

@HamburgerTime_ 11 месяцев назад

One combo you missed is Etali in cedh (I understand why you wouldn't bring this up) You can Food Chain with Squee, the Immortal for infinite mana, then Food Chain your Etali infinite times to deck out your opponents while stealing anything you want in the process.

@thatbloxguy5432 11 месяцев назад

Etali Primal Sickness, Aggravated Assault and Zilortha, Apex of Ikoria combo will win the game fast.

@heliaxx 11 месяцев назад

1h 50min to talk about 7 cards

@STS-qi1qy 11 месяцев назад

Hearing it said out loud it's obvious that 'This spell can't be countered' gets around Ward but it never actually dawned on me until now.

@ChronoBolt 11 месяцев назад

Don't get too down on yourself. It was a narrow-enough interaction that WOTC specifically printed a common burn spell into strixhaven that couldn't be countered. Just so they could add "this includes ward" to its reminder text lol

@RazgrizAce67 11 месяцев назад

Yep, I remember having Void Rend in hand and playing against Miirym and getting so happy as I was like, "Wait a minute, let me see reminder text for ward again."

@overtone55 11 месяцев назад

I've realized this recently using lithomanic barrage against esper legends when their entire board has ward 😅

@overtone55 11 месяцев назад

I've realized this recently using lithomanic barrage against esper legends when their entire board has ward 😅

@SmashCentralOfficial 11 месяцев назад

This is why Void Rend is awesome!

@taurincochran3398 11 месяцев назад

Jimmy's "old school" radio announcer voice is perfect! "Doctors recommend Progen-itus!"🤣🤣🤣

@mahn0318 11 месяцев назад

Fun concept I've been working on is WUBRG Omnath with Liege cards. Gives their respective colors +1/+1 to other creatures and really fun in a WUBRG deck

@MakinaMakinaMakina 11 месяцев назад

Why does everyone use U? Is it for blue or black? I’m new to mtg so still learning haha

@ryansprenkle6356 11 месяцев назад

@@MakinaMakinaMakina U is blue

@laerite 11 месяцев назад

@@MakinaMakinaMakina U is blue because B is black and L is lands! it's devspeak, when they're designing cards and stuff they use a lot of shorthand. welcome to the hobby :)

@thesamuraiman 11 месяцев назад

@@MakinaMakinaMakinaU is for blue because "black" and "blue" both have the same first two letters. So it's the first letter that doesn't copy another. 👌🏼

@MakinaMakinaMakina 11 месяцев назад

@@laerite Thank you!!

@rav5373 11 месяцев назад

Omnath is also nice because you can save mana. You can make a more control'y build and keep that 2 blue mana for a counterpspell and if it's not gonna be used, you get the 2 mana for the next turn. You can also save all mana for the next turn to do big stuff early. My friend made a praetor tribal deck with omnath and seeing him activate Realmbreaker, the Invasion Tree and getting all 15 preators on board as early as turn 5 is just crazy.

@thomaseddy7347 11 месяцев назад

For Heliod, it also makes sense to run protection enchantments like Invincibility or enchantments with totem armor, since you can get them back later if you have to recast Heliod.

@leobardis1721 10 месяцев назад

Omnath is just a great color enabler for whatever theme you're trying to build. You don't even have to include black mana sources since you can rely on Omnath's mana-loss-conversion to provide splash mana.

@thatbloxguy5432 11 месяцев назад

I have successfully flipped and used Etali Primal Sickness. Being able to have 3 combats in a row also helps win the game when you have Zilortha Apex of Ikoria

@jubul666 11 месяцев назад

i love casting that battle for free, searching for a dryad arbor then killing the battle. next turn flip Etali and just nuke someone

@connormohs6046 11 месяцев назад

Surprised you guys didn’t mention the ultimatums with Omnath, seemed like a perfect ultimatum tribal

@nickmunster2229 11 месяцев назад

So I built omnath as a 5 color multi color tribal and it was a pain to do mana base. but the deck actually ended up being alot stronger then I anticipated it being. I assumed it would be "bad" cause of the color pips being all over. But omnath does give decent card advantage even if you don't get mana

@carlos_wrong 11 месяцев назад

Would you mind sharing your decklist? I own an Omnath and a fan of WUBRG but I'm fairly new to MTG and it's a bit intimidating to build a 5-color deck from scratch and make it work

@nickmunster2229 11 месяцев назад

@Carlos Wrong honestly I don't have a list to share, but I can give some advice. For a new player best way to start is to buy the 5 color precon from dominaria or use it as template. The most important thing is to get the mana base right, so use shocks, fetches and triomes if you have them. You must be able to assemble your colors efficiently and smoothly, you won't use many basic lands maybe 10 at most. Using lands like world tree are gonna help alot even if you don't have gods in deck run the tree to help fix colors, there is also artifacts like chromatic lantern and ornery but never rely on them just make the mana base solid. Lastly when your doing the list just follow along with Josh and Jimmie for advice on ratios for the contents of deck, I found that their template on deck building while it does have things you as a player can tweak for your playstyle, they definitely broke it down much better than most videos I have seen on topic

@nickmunster2229 11 месяцев назад

@Carlos Wrong I don't typically have lists I do it old fashion way and scatter piles of cards all over me living room table but I hope that helps some

@ArmageddonAsh 11 месяцев назад

My 2 favorites are Ayara and Rona. Been debating about a Ayara/Obush deck as well as a Rona voltron deck based around creatures that you can equip up that people dont want to block and flipping Rona and equipping with Nemesis Mask and just laugh.

@misterdonwaters 11 месяцев назад

Interesting to see that Chiss-Goria had Scale of and Tooth of artifact cards printed in Mirrodin, but was not printed as a creature before ONC. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@Yousuckatgames 11 месяцев назад

“It’s doing the wurm thing” is the funniest thing every 32:37 so nonchalant

@pikachufantastic 11 месяцев назад

Completed monsters are fantastic for phyrexia tribal to one degree to another

@MrMalorian 11 месяцев назад

I LOVE my Ayara threaten deck. There is a Goad sub theme and it scales well to any non-cedh table.

@chadsamuels6512 11 месяцев назад

Heliod also wants otherworld atlas. It's a repeatable source of draw for the entire table. You power it up early before you flip heliod. Even an atlas with 2 charge counters reduces spells by 6. The deck also ramps through artifacts so an unwinding clock goes in the deck to keep you playing spells each turn. Finally I think there is an alternate build of this deck that is artifact tribal. Where you cast your hand for free.

@jubul666 11 месяцев назад

hey the cool thing about someone killing your etali when you try to flip it is you have enough manna to recast it for the ETB next turn. its an option if you run out of blink or copy gas. "either kill it so i can recast or it kills you"

@villainvoice5143 11 месяцев назад

Okay. So timely video!! I had proxied a Kwain deck and I’ve been loving the heck out of it. Ordered the actual cards earlier tonight. And now you have a video that’s urging me to reconsider my poor commander! Wow. Okay. Picking up Heliod tomorrow. I might stick with the bunny wizard so I don’t terrify my friends. But that’s insane. Drown in dreams. Choose one, target draws X, target mills 2X, choose both if you control your commander. Increasing confusion mills one for X, then you flashback it to hit someone for 2X immediately.

@dancook6114 11 месяцев назад

Ive been on the fence about building her since she released but after hearing you guys talk about some of the cool shenanigans you could do ive jumped straight onto archidekt to brew an ayara deck. I love reanimator strategies and the way she can just slug people for so much damage is awesome. There are also a few ways to go infinite with her using thornbite staff which is also quite funny (i know infinite loops with the staff isnt anything new but this is the first deck of mine it will be in)

@theunease5541 11 месяцев назад

The second I saw Heliod's backside I shuddered with dread at the thought of someone casting Windfall into Expropriate for 2 mana. Then into another wheel for one mana and another extra turn for 2 mana, then an X spell for 15+ also for 2 mana. The card looks like potentially one of the best wheel commanders printed. 1000% the most kill on sight commander I have seen in a hot minute. Luckily, if you kill in response to transform trigger you should be fine and it taking 7+ mana total to flip and being kinda telegraphed means you should have the foresight and opportunity to hold up the removal. So not exactly broken beyond belief, but definitely scary af.

@ryangsluke 7 месяцев назад

Hydra macerator is a hilarious deck idea

@victorbourguignon6897 11 месяцев назад

Allow me to also throw in two weird inclusions for polukranos ! If you have the bucks, Wrenn and realmbreaker is pretty great as you can protect it with your reachy bois, and her emblem allows you to endlessly recast your 0/0 hydra's. On the same page but older and weirder: Enduring renewal. It has a bunch of weird not so terrible down side BUT, it specifically sends all creatures that die on your side of the field right back to your hand, hydra storm eat your heart out.

@ChronoBolt 11 месяцев назад

Seeing Combustible Gearhulk mentioned makes me happy because I remember my local playgroup being very mid about it when Kaladesh Block came around, but i saw it and immediately thought "well this HAS to go into my Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck." Plus he just looks cool lol

@BrootalMetalBanjo 11 месяцев назад

I built a Slobad, Iron Golem deck and a Illuminor Szeras deck. Ayara looks like a way to combine the ideas.

@snakeman830 11 месяцев назад

I've come to really like Austere Command in my Polukranos Reborn deck. If you choose "mana value 4+" and either artifacts or enchantments to blow up, you are virtually always left with the most powerful board because Polukranos and all your other hydras survive.

@NearSightedViking 11 месяцев назад

I personally went Phyrexian Tribal with Omnath. I'm fairly new with a small collection but adding cards like Phyrexian Obliterator and Phyrexian Vindicator plus building around the incubate mechanic. It's a work in progress, needs some tweaking, but definitely fun to play 😁

@thebookscollective8543 11 месяцев назад

Busy downloading so that I can watch it on the tube home 🎉

@ropadope1452 11 месяцев назад

Every game I’ve successfully cast Etali has always been the beginning of the end for my opponents. The value is just insane. Stealing some of their best cards and getting to play mine for free is unstoppable.

@blackfox1810 11 месяцев назад

Etali, Primal Conqueror definitely slaps. At first I thought it was a meme to go for such iffy blink and clone effects, but when you keep casting your own spells for free it is surprisingly reliable at triggering multiple times in a row to end games. I like Sylvan Library as card draw and a way to leave clone effects on top before I know I'm going to cast Etali. Jeski's Will has also allowed me to play Etali on turn 3 multiple times (7 cards in an opponent's hand), which quickly snowballs out of control. If people aren't playing control decks, it's very hard to stop or slow down.

@ethanj3547 11 месяцев назад

One super fun thing with omnath is seedborn muse. Depending on how many opponents, you can end up with triple the mana you can produce by the time you get back to your turn for absolutely free.

@davidsilveira8387 11 месяцев назад

Polukranos my favorite by Far , super fun to play.

@jt_myth 11 месяцев назад

Omnath of All cumulative upkeep tribal!!! I love mine.

@DachFalimo 11 месяцев назад

Anyone Notice Etali doesn't tuck the exiled cards like most of these effects? Lands go away forever...

@alexliang1040 11 месяцев назад

This could be oblivion sower's time to shine

@chadsamuels6512 11 месяцев назад

Yes and if you put him in the 99 of a temur deck you can also pair him with displacer kitten for insane value. Its technically not infinite because you could whiff and no one top decks a noncrearure spell. Odds are with his value often you can just win the game.

@AbyssArray 11 месяцев назад

I built Omnath, Locus of All and it's okay, I built around the 3-colored pips, ended up with 35 cards of my deck reaching that requirement - which is still on average a 1 in 3. I did take a lot of the cards from the Painbow precon from Domarinia United. And for most of the removal cards I put in my deck, I preferred the ones that had multiple options, so it's not strictly removal, it can be draw instead (Esper Charm for example).. and I found an excuse to include Dark Intimidations, along with a bunch of Bolas planeswalkers Knotvine Mystic is a neat one, that one I think I'll actually put into the deck.

@comvnche 11 месяцев назад

For Ayara, I suggest Necropotence, K'rrik and Bolas's Citadel and Stalking Vengeance

@mercadonathedrawmartinezro1660 11 месяцев назад

HELL YEAH!!

@sbrevoltuion5 11 месяцев назад

The polukranos deck is nutty. It’s so much fun

@victorbourguignon6897 11 месяцев назад

Im currently building my own and i love my little ruin engine!

@Lycandros 11 месяцев назад

A cheeky Nemesis Mask and/or Pariah Shield for Rona's second side would be interesting.

@umpatte0 11 месяцев назад

Ramos produces two times wubrg mana, ie "twubrg" 😊

@commandergamer3337 11 месяцев назад

I built Rona mostly based on her backside but I also have the best of the front side so it's really reactionary but a lot of things that I like to do with the backside of Rona is to equip it with Nemesis mask and force people to block me or put like a quietus spike on her or to give her things that make it so people have to block me and then I just strip cards out of their hands because each individual creature that blocks is an individual source so I get to do it multiple times it's really fun

@bigpuma2149 11 месяцев назад

I love the new heliod ik it might seem like a dumb idea but Im slowly gonna build a flying matters with him I like the idea plus I can throw in my heliod walking balitsta combo to win

@lonelymaw 11 месяцев назад

Been loving playing with Polukranos! I'd recommend Unbound Flourishing over Tribute, because it still gives you the option to cast 0/0s if Polu is online while DOUBLING the size of your large hydra casts. EDIT: X=0 hydras actually _will_ still die thanks to state based actions, so Tribute is a great include!

@victorbourguignon6897 11 месяцев назад

Well dont threat with tribute! the trigger doesnt stop your hydras from dying as the state based action happen before it! You can run both!

@lonelymaw 11 месяцев назад

@@victorbourguignon6897 Oh, you're right! Thanks for the correction!

@victorbourguignon6897 11 месяцев назад

@@lonelymaw No problem, Ive been pouring over polukranos for way too much time by now. Don't forget that if you run spells that bring back 3 mana value or less creatures to the field, polukranos is also eligible and can dodge commander tax!

@nik700 11 месяцев назад

For the multicolored matters Omnath, I recommend Widespread Thieving

@lightfut 11 месяцев назад

Cursed mirror seems like a must for etali

@jimharris5320 11 месяцев назад

I was expecting Thornbite Staff to be mentioned with Ayara

@spuntimusprime 11 месяцев назад

I actually have the new etali in the tinker time deck with gimbal is the commander and with more ways to create artifact tokens and the new etali is absolutely crazy against my pod

@lostlyric5548 8 месяцев назад

Does the black from omnath stay until your next turn or ??

@Rashadmcka 11 месяцев назад

I have another Ayara deck, but now I want to build this one, seems less annoying at the table 😂

@illusioncity 11 месяцев назад

I really like Ayara and I've been building a deck around her. I have to disagree with choosing cards like Nightmare Shepherd that exile your creatures, I think these cards work against Ayara's strategy since you can no longer re-use those creatures again. Better to use cloning cards like Flameshadow Conjuring, Orthion, Hero of Lavabrink, and of course Jaxis, The Troublemaker, to create clones of the creatures and sac the clones.

@jstrobel3620 11 месяцев назад

Etali is now the leader of my mean deck! Blow up all the lands and creatures… oh wait! An indestructible 11 with “infect” how great!

@DieFrauAmHerd 11 месяцев назад

With Hidetsugu you can just tutor a creature with decent cmc and then cast it out of Exile to the battlefield, then sac it with ayara and then idk dredge it away from the grave or w/e reanimate it. Its digging deeper thatn one might think

@losttheory2761 11 месяцев назад

With omnath you could just go straight land fall also and build up so much mana with Doubling cube, nyxbloom ancient, and throw a torment of hailfire down for 100

@dinahraven 11 месяцев назад

I made my Ayara WoR deck into a fling deck, it's pretty brutal

@1988vuittoni 11 месяцев назад

Forced Fruition in Heliod is redonkulus!

@Russian_engineer_bmstu 11 месяцев назад

38:50 this one is combat only, unlike infect, ignition will deal 11 life damage

@ingolf82 11 месяцев назад

a "notable note" (see what I did there?) is that Kwain says "Each player MAY draw". so if they really want to stop giving you value and they are ok with their hand, they will not draw, so you only get 1 more discount because you draw. The 5 colour Omnath is a very good charm commander, since those are 3 coloured, so you play all the charms and all that stuff. Doesn't Polukranos, Lumanous Broodmaw + a X hydra just go infinite and draw the game? Because it keeps dying and creating tokens and you can't stop the trigger Abiding Grace is so good with Polukranos. it's an enchantment thats says: at the beginning of your endstep choose 1: Gain 1 life or return target creature card with mana value 1 from your graveyard to the battlefield". so each endstep, you bring hungering hydra or Capricopian or mistcutter hydra etc. back and it ies and creates 2 tokens for you, or 8 if you have doubling season and anoided procession out. insane value. No Brimaz?

@starkiller182 11 месяцев назад

There is a Phyrexian Horror Minion print of K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth, but its a secret lair.

@Scopesightzx 11 месяцев назад

Absolute bank, but turning the GX transform commanders into humans does let Moonmist cheat the transform cost heavily

@Littleorlock 11 месяцев назад

New Etali does not have an attack trigger like the original, just etb

@joshuanelson4819 11 месяцев назад

The Phyrexians weren't SUPPOSED to lose...

@gaythiestMTG 11 месяцев назад

New Etali plus food chain? cedh all star lol

@rowdyrager-9403 11 месяцев назад

I was first introduced to MTG in 1999. Just kinda played casually then stopped Trying to get back into it now a lot of the cool characters are bad guys! Can they be saved? Please keep Vivien Reid alive and uncompleted!

@jubul666 11 месяцев назад

something i really like to do with Etali especially if i have molten echoes out and a hellkite courser is use my copy and bounce spells to target the hellkite instead of Etali. lets use twinflame as a basic example, if I copy Etali i get one trigger on the stack. BORING. if I target the hellkite though not only do i get a 6/5 flying hasty boy sticking around on the board until end of turn i get to put etali onto the board for one trigger and then a copy of him from molten echoes for another trigger of his ability! then i simply choose the copy to keep (also has haste YAY) venturing over to magical Christmas land is where things get interesting, imagine this with a panharmonicon... the dragon triggers 2 times, stack it right and choose the copy and you get to play Etali from command zone 2 times, each time double triggering molten echoes for 4 copies all of the 6 Etalis also double trigger for a total of 12 triggers! that is 48 cards you get to cast (assuming everyone is alive) now lets replace twinflame with Orthion, Hero of Lavabrink or Rionya, Fire Dancer to make several copies. you have just cast everyone's deck, probably already assembled some critical mass finisher but if not pass turn and simply win because no one has any cards. yes, i know the simpler way to do this is with foodchain and squee but that's just no fun

@Xaarfai 11 месяцев назад

My Omnath plan is simple: get Omnath -> get 13 mana stored -> Realmbreaker get all Praetors -> Phyrexia wins

@tristonvandolah5249 11 месяцев назад

Ayara Plus Torgaar

@MakotoAbsol451 11 месяцев назад

Dual Nature is a card I have always loved and Etali is in Green so it can be run.

@JokersQuartet 11 месяцев назад

No aftermath game knights?

@controlaltdeleteish 11 месяцев назад

im building an omnath preator deck with a bunch of x spells 😅

@leSmokySmoke 11 месяцев назад

can you play new etali in the 99 of a pure red deck?

@redrum923 11 месяцев назад

is there no Game Knights with Fans this year?

@kraftounpiyaso2857 11 месяцев назад

Yea I wish they'd bring back game knights w fans

@savannahlion3081 11 месяцев назад

🥇🏆🥇

@bunbun-ou5lz 11 месяцев назад

I believe it's happening later this year

@TheyCallMeDio 11 месяцев назад

Compleated Koma:... F*** you all

@dcw8284 11 месяцев назад

I think Yuriko would like Tormokratis 1:30:20

@sam7559 11 месяцев назад

1:19:48 wouldn't broodmoth create a non optional infinite loop without an anthem or a instant speed way to remove the moth?

@PlaneWalker18 11 месяцев назад

No because it comes in with a flying counter from broodmoth. It has to not have fkying the first time for her to trigger. If you bring it back a second time you can double up again since only broodmoth’s revive gives the counter.

@jacobmeagher 11 месяцев назад

You talk about proliferating with glissa but don't mention Vorinclex!!!

@theaeskey2502 11 месяцев назад

Also there’s a sick combo with Rona + Mox Amber + Retraction Helix.

@kazuallykunfuzed 11 месяцев назад

It's too bad you can't have all iterations of Polukranos cuz the Escape one has black. Unless does Abzan Hydras work for a deck like this?

@adamlay7317 11 месяцев назад

Well i was considering building vohar but now im building rona

@rylanchampion5972 11 месяцев назад

Nioce stuff coming out of your... Tubes?

@alecolson8360 11 месяцев назад

These are getting long, thanks for all

@Russian_engineer_bmstu 11 месяцев назад

Etali turned out to be so annoying to play against, too many ways to copy it... Somehow

@weirdo82 11 месяцев назад

From a lore perspective, sad to see you guys misunderstand Glissa. She wasn't compleated voluntarily, she was an early hero of mirrodin. She was killed and compleated when mirrodin was taken over by the Phyrexians.

@savannahlion3081 11 месяцев назад

COMPLEAT ME ! 🤘🦁🤘

@faerie7dragon 11 месяцев назад

Compleat Savannah Lion. W Toxic 1 2/2

@savannahlion3081 11 месяцев назад

@@faerie7dragon ROAWR ! 😝

@TheBigPenguu 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for convincing me to build Polukranos.

@HamburgerTime_ 11 месяцев назад

I'm still sad about Etali 😭 Won't stop me from running that bad boi in Gishath tho

@chazzybrown54 11 месяцев назад

See even Jimmy can sing in an episode Rachel is on. She can't ruin all the fun.

@lunarlight3131 11 месяцев назад

yay

@Hallowed_Shrine 11 месяцев назад

Keen Dualist is nothing like Yu-Gi-Oh!, as a matter of a fact there are no effects that reveal to top of your deck, and deal damage equal to cmc. That's not even close to how the game is played, let alone like a yugioh "like" function in anyway...

@equos5060 11 месяцев назад

Why is rachel in every single video now? Is she the boss or something? Are there no other hosts in CZ anymore?

@triplicityaiyakido2697 11 месяцев назад

why are we talking for 20 minutes about Ayara. Especially the front side is nothing we have not seen before with the saccing and the ways we can abuse it and use it with steal effects.

@fancycoat9900 11 месяцев назад

I'm sorry command Zone but you are wrong about Etali. You build that deck around the transform side. Sure the front side is alright, but it's the backside is where all the power is. Poison infect rip and tear

@aidennoir597 11 месяцев назад

The front is massive card advantage (4 for 1) which, especially in Commander, is far more powerful than being a big beater.

@thomaskelley2641 11 месяцев назад

Uhhh nope. It's fine if you prefer the backside, but the front is unquestionably more powerful and easier to build around. Every time you flicker or copy him you get 4 free spells of ANY mana cost. It's powerful enough that it's entirely possible that you end the game simply by playing him once, and you are almost always going to be blinking/copying him for cheaper than his initial cost. Compare that to the backside, which requires him to not only (more than likely) survive an entire turn rotation so you can have mana again, but the transform is 9-10 mana at sorcery speed only. And your payoff for flipping him over is.... Potentially killing one single player that turn IF they can't block you. The front side needs less support and does more stuff.

@blackfox1810 11 месяцев назад

I built this deck for the front side, and I have to disagree. Sure, I can ramp to play Etali and then ramp again to transform him the turn after for 9 mana if he somehow survives that long. However, even if I get that far I'm still only threatening one player with combat damage unless I have another support card in play. As others have said, do what is fun for you, but 4 free spells is very good at finding win cons. I had turn where I casted 18 spells (3 players) for free because I kept hitting my clone effects and had to stop early because Keeper of Secrets killed them before I could do more. While a small sample size, my incomplete deck (was still waiting for cards) has won 5 out of 7 games so far at my LGS. I'm considering toning it down.

@Hutch_x 11 месяцев назад

I miss when Jimmy and Josh actually seemed excited when doing these videos….Now it just seems like they are only doing it because it’s there job. Feels 95% scripted.