Cooler Master NR200 with mATX Chinese X79 Motherboard

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In this video I try to fit a micro-ATX motherboard in the Cooler Master NR200 small form factor case. This Machinist X79G motherboard is a smaller variant of mATX that can fit in sff cases that have at least a 3 slot GPU space. One of the weaknesses on this Chinese X79 motherboard is the VRM cooling solution - so towards the end of this video I test a large 120mm case fan in both the exhaust and intake positions while monitoring VRM temperatures. The VRM reached 70°C during open air bench testing (no case fans). With the 120mm case fan in exhaust mode, it kept the VRM under 50°C and when flipped to intake mode it kept the VRM under 30°C!
Note that the intake fan is far superior for VRM temps but will elevate the CPU temperate a few degrees from 50°C to 54°C during my testing. A sacrifice I am happy to make, considering I've never cooked a CPU to death but have fried motherboards from inadequate venitlation before. I want to keep this cheap chinese motherboard well cooled as I would anticipate it failing long before the Intel Xeon E5-2650 v2 processors would fail.
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00:00 - Cooler Master NR200 Unboxing
02:39 - Opening the NR200 Sidepanels
03:48 - 120mm Case Fan and Misc. Parts
04:59 - NR200 Front Panel I/O Connections
05:27 - NR200 Motherboard Tray
06:16 - Position of Top Case Fan for VRM
06:55 - Will a cheap Snowman Cooler Fit?
09:21 - Side Panel can stay!
10:27 - Prep the Motherboard
11:30 - Installing Motherboard in the NR200 Case
11:54 - Power Supply Placement
14:18 - Front Panel Connections
16:28 - Re-assemble the NR200 Case
17:43 - Preparing for Case Fan Tests
18:28 - Testing Case Fan EXHAUST Mode
18:58 - Flipping the Case Fan Orientation
19:44 - Testing Case Fan INTAKE Mode
20:26 - Summary and Conclusions
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@BensTechLab 3 года назад

TL;DR; - This motherboard *can fit* in the well priced Cooler Master NR200 case! - The included case fan will help manage the VRM temps in either orientation. - Having the top 120mm case fan as an intake fan is far superior for VRM temps but will elevate the CPU temperate a few degrees from 50°C to 54°C during my testing.

@neoperol 3 года назад

OMG I have the same build xD, 2689 always at turbo but with the TG panel and a GTX 1660 and a ATX PSU, I'm moving now to an AMD build. I'm going to miss that Xeon when the times comes.

@DiazThumb 3 года назад

Been looking for a matx build like this, great to discover your channel, big thanks!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

@@DiazThumb Glad this was helpful! I do like the way this build came out!

@Pixelflames1 3 года назад

How much clearence did you have below the motherboard. My B150m is about a cm taller than your chinese motherboard

@raviprasad6396 2 года назад

@@DiazThumb try Asrock h470m HDV if using 10th gen

@oldcomrade8929 Год назад

Honestly Brother @BensTechLab you are one of the BEST Tech related channels, thorough review, Excellent steps and test explanation. Tackling interesting question for any PC builder. Thank you so much!

@coleworld8265 3 года назад

First video I've seen making use of a front mounted PSU. I will try my own build with this in mind. Great vid!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Front mounted works great when cramming an oversized motherboard in this case! (Like my mATX one).

@hollylyy 3 года назад

This case got me interested in building pcs again. Thanks for your review, hope for more videos and that your channel takes off 👍

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! I definitely enjoy playing with computer tech. Thanks for the best wishes.

@davideandradesilva3315 Год назад

I bought a micro ITX motherboard but I'm gonna use one of those coolers and you solved my doubt. Tks a lot dude!

@grimegate7397 3 года назад

bought a similar machinist mobo, very informative video, and gave me a bit more confidence with it when it arrives. I have a cooler master case with top mount fan slots, so this video was huge on informing me the difference it can make. pairing it with a e5 2680 v2, bit higher tdp. but with the drastic difference in vrm temps with that top intake fan, makes me pumped. thank you

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Glad this was helpful! Good luck with your build!

@lorandberecz6575 2 года назад

Hi, I like your videos. The explanation, the way you make presentation without boring clickbait tricks, everything! Congrat! Can you share your experiences about headless server mode? How do you manage remotely? Is it possible to lower power consumption by reducing graphics component? I mean in your server cluster, you need graphic cards in every nodes ?

@ramyabouhassan 3 года назад

awesome case and it works with chinese matx boards really a dream, very stylish and clean like it a lot

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

I'm liking it a lot too! Nice case, affordable components. Love it.

@andystech101 Год назад

Complete legend I can now fit my no itx a520 motherboard 😎

@brianoneill3916 3 года назад

Your vids are great - you should have thousands more subscribers!! The fools are missing out!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Ha, ha, thanks! I'm just starting out... everyone has to start somewhere. More to come.

@mamdouh-Tawadros Год назад

Thank you for a good video.

@soulfly6ft3 2 года назад

What is the size comparison of this Chinese MB vs a micro ATX MSI b550m? And what is your PSU wattage? Thanks! Great vid! This is the closest vid i can find about fitting a MATX into NR200. You could have made a MB size comparison.

@etbiiim 2 года назад

Good to know, we can technical install mobo like b450 or b550 who fits 244x224

@1986Hikaru 2 года назад

You can try the Machinist X79_V2.73A, it's Mini DX mobo (a little bigger than a Mini ITX), and its a lga 2011 socket too.

@jocheneisenhauer 3 года назад

Hi Ben great testing :) i ordered such a tiny X79G Board too. I am not sure if it will work but i buyed a E7-4870V2 to test with. I think if i cool the VRM good this beast of CPU may be work on it.

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

You will certainly need some cooling! Someone commented further down I think that they glued in some larger strips of aluminum into the small heatsink to increase the thermal mass with good success. That comment might be on my VRM thermals video...

@thugishnix 3 года назад

can you fit in the mortar max matx and deepcool 240mm aio in the mastercooler n200?

@trapperainsworth2435 2 года назад

Do you know if this Machinist X99-M Plus will fit in the case? For a while now I wanted to go Ryzen. Now that I see that these Xeon's have way better Multi-Thread performance for way less money. I'm going X99 brother! I love Intel Xeon's anyway! So I'm going to be using an 18-core Xeon with 36 threads. I wish V3 supported the 24 core Xeon's but nope. I do a lot of rendering so I need more threads.

@Francesco_Esposito 9 месяцев назад

Is the power supply fan facing inward or toward the front panel?

@orlandoeduardopereira Год назад

will a mATX 24x24cm motherboard fit in the nr200p case?

@TheHYEGUY 3 года назад

do you think the 6 copper wire version of the snowman cooler will fit as well? Thanks! Im building in a NR200P currently. First build, wish me luck!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Sorry I dont have one of these. So I'm not sure!

@ge9199 8 месяцев назад

Will it fit if I use the MSI Pro B760M A WiFi motherboard with dimensions of 243.84mm x 243.84mm?

@jauwadhossain3287 Год назад

is it possible to install bottom fans with matx board?

@evilballer 3 года назад

subscribed to support the channel. a bit lengthy though

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Thanks! I am still new to this, learning the ropes. Appreciate the honest feedback and support! 🙏

@lofiaccountig 2 месяца назад

its possible to fit a ATX psu in this config?

@abhisekchatterjee5844 2 года назад

Does NR200 support Asus TUF Gaming B560M-Plus WIFI Motherboard?

@CCSsixSantiago Год назад

Does anyone know what size motherboard I used? He said it was micro ATX but a smaller version.

3 года назад

We need a mATX variant of this case!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

That could be fun! An official mATX version wouldn't need to be much taller, maybe 1". But it would have to be a few inches deeper for wider mATX compatibility. I think "as small as you can get" was just so on trend the last couple years.

@kawanian 3 года назад

We actually do have that... matx + atx psu + 330cm gpu... problem is no mesh...

@NasmanFour20 3 года назад

check CM NR400

@commanderquark4564 2 года назад

There is no need! We just need a matx motherboard tray with 8 stand9ffs

@duaaardo. 2 года назад

@@NasmanFour20 Too big

@ChrisKadaver 2 года назад

Is this motherboard smaller than "regular" micro-ATX cases? I have the Gigabyte Z590M GAMING X. Do you think I could fit it into this case? Also... there seems to be a lot of dead space in this case. Could you mod the PSU cage to fit a regular sized psu aswell?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

There are 2 heights for mATX standard. This is the shorter of those 2 options. Some people call the smaller one "flex-atx".

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Googling that motherboard looks kinda big, like 4 pcie slots sized (i know its 3 but the height of 4).

@GiziBrat 2 года назад

Hello, I was exactly thinking about buying the same mobo and cpu, so i was wondering if it is still working on you and have you had any issues? also I am wondering if your ram is running in dual channel or quad channel? because on aliexpress there is a few listing for this board and some are saying "memory configuration single channel" so that got me confused? Please if you can chech if your ram is in dual or quad channel that would be very helpfull, thanks!

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Yes this combo works fine! Unfortunately though the smaller mATX board cannot aupport quad channel memory due to space constraints (can't fit all the PCB traces). If you need quad channel support you will need to look at the larger ATX size x79 motherboards on aliexpress/ebay. This mb is dual channel only.

@GiziBrat 2 года назад

@@BensTechLab Thanks! I think I will be okay with 16gb dual channel, I just want a reliable board, I'm not gonna put any xeons over 95w tdp and I hope I will have a nice reliable system, Looking towards ordering all the parts this month, seems like this board has a lot of positive reviews

@Patrick77001 2 года назад

Do you think I could fit a Gigabyte H510M-H in this case along with an ATX PSU from coolermaster?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

I have no way of knowing. I don't have the Gigabyte H510M-H motherboard. I'm just a small youtuber, not one of those channels with a warehouse full of parts to play with!

@pepega1245 2 года назад

late comment but i was wondering if 120mm fans could fit on the bottom of the case with a micro atx motherboard?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Probably not... The motherboard shown here is a small mATX which is only 3 pcie slots tall max. Most mATX are even 1 slot taller.

@davideandradesilva3315 Год назад

I have another doubt tho, do you have the acrylic side panel ? And If yes have you tried it out with the snowman fan?

@BensTechLab Год назад

I do not have the acrylic side panel. I wasnt going for that look in these builds. You are right though the acrylic probably eats another 3-5mm of space inside. If you want the looks with acrylic I'd probably go for a brand name cooler like a Noctua.

@davideandradesilva3315 Год назад

@@BensTechLab My snowman aircooler arrived today and i've installed in the case with the acrylic side panel and no problems. The tower is 2mm minimun far. I'm so happy with the build rs

@user-ec6ih5cx6g 2 года назад

Is it possible to install a water-cooled radiator on the bottom with the mATX installed?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

There is no room for anything on the bottom with a mATX motherboard. You are already over-spec to fit mATX instead of ITX motherboard. Maybe with a narrow radiator and water cooling a GPU or no GPU you could get really creative, buts it well outside the spec for this case. So you can experiment at your own risk!

@adrianaescobar6924 Год назад

the psu can be mounted on the floor of the case? taking air from the bottom?

@BensTechLab Год назад

The case isn't really designed for this, but I've seen some impressive case modders... the bottom of this case may get crowded depending on the size of your GPU card.

@wariag84 2 года назад

ASRock B460M Pro4 (229х224) will it be possible to install in this case?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

This machinist motherboard is about 215mm x 186mm. So that Asrock Pro4 seems like a fair bit taller by 38mm or more than 1-1/2". I don't think it would fit.

@cescboyka1561 Год назад

what height mATX?

@ahmadsyukuri1968 2 года назад

could I install m-ATX like Gigabyte B660M DS3H?

@janrennielfolio 2 года назад

Waiting for this

@home-lab 3 года назад

Thanks for the video and skipping the boring parts.

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Sokol10 Месяц назад

Most Chinese X79, X99 motherboards are not m-ATX (24x24 cm), they are more close to mini-DTX (23x17 cm), e.G. Huananzhi x79 6M is (23,5x18,5 cm).

@LuckyCrown781 Год назад

Quick question would the nr200 fit an b450 mortar with a full atx power supply ??

@adrianaescobar6924 Год назад

yes

@Afthrast Год назад

did it fit the b450m mortar?

@BhavneetSachdev 3 года назад

can you check which cheap b450 will fit in this case

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

I would love to! BUT.... I'm too small a RU-vid channel to have shelves and shelves full of various PC parts like BitWit or Linus Tech Tips. :-) Sorry. You might try one of the popular SFF forums or sub-reddits.

@prussian.knight 3 года назад

Can a bigger gpu fit in that case?

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Yes a larger GPU can fit in this case, but fits better with the power supply on the back panel which didn't fit well with my mATX motherboard. So it is one big trade-off of space between MB, PS and GPU!! Choose which items you want to use the space for. You might be able to squeeze an SFX power supply on the front panel with a long GPU if you have very flexible cables or custom cables for your powersupply to make a 90 degree bend above GPU.

@Bird..... 2 года назад

Can u fit matx motherboard and full size psu together on it?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Keep in mind this is a small mATX motherboard. But yes you probably can. The interference for the full size PSU is more likely the GPU not motherboard. I did another video for PSU options in NR200: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tmoZVQo0_3w.html

@Bird..... 2 года назад

@@BensTechLab i have b450m gaming plus from msi, full atx psu, and gtx 1050 ti single fan from asus, can it fit in?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

@@Bird..... Sorry, I dont have your components on hand, so I can't know if your specific items will fit. But google tells me your MB is 244mm tall and the one shown in this videonis 215mm tall. I think it is too tall MB.

@Bird..... 2 года назад

@@BensTechLab ah ok thx

@pronoytripura8477 2 года назад

can i add gpu in similar specs?i mean including the mATX?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Yes you can! But full length card may interfere with larger powersupply. So you must balance power supply size and GPU card size or mod the case.

@pronoytripura8477 2 года назад

one more question can i use Asus prime a520m-k mATX motherboard in this case?please let me know

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

I do not have this Asus MB, so can't answer that. Note there is 2 possible heights for mATX MBs and some are too tall. Also check this video to see the power supply mounted on the back of the case vs front of the case for GPU clearance: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tmoZVQo0_3w.html

@raviprasad6396 2 года назад

@@pronoytripura8477 check size difference between ur motherboard and the one that actually fits (Asrock h470m HDV)

@floridanelson 2 года назад

Which model of x79 was this? Mine does not fit.

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

In the video description "Machinist X79G motherboard". This is a smaller motherboard, there are a lot of chinese remanufactured motherboards. The good news is that you can still use your CPU and RAM and just change the MB to fit your case! Then sell your other X79 on ebay if you want...

@floridanelson 2 года назад

@@BensTechLab interesting. I also have a machinest. Doesn't look like they make this smaller one anymore under that brand, but I did find some that fit.

@nilson3960 3 года назад

Hi, can i adapt atx power supply? THX

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

I did see this once but totally custom. You remove the SFX bracket and mount the ATX at the front similar to where the SFX goes on the front panel. May need to drill custom holes for mounting. There isn't much reason to do this today though unless you already have a nice ATX psu. There is so many choices available in SFX now.

@raviprasad6396 2 года назад

U can 3d print ATX psu bracket which is also provided by cooler master in 2 variants top mount and lower mount

@gheyath9763 2 года назад

If your motherboard is 244x226mm or 24.4x22.6cm and under it will fit the case

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

Did you verify this with a specific motherboard? Maybe share with the community which motherboard you used? It may be helpful!

@okninyossi 2 года назад

According to Cooler Master Manufacturer site, this is possible. the maximum MB you can put on this case is 244x226, well actually didn't try this, and hope someone can confirm its fit, but theoretically, it should be OK... (go to CoolerMaster/NR200/Specification)

@Afthrast Год назад

22,6cm is the height of it, right?

@user-bgw01uykfj Год назад

is there any other option that not using chino brand..?

@Sokol10 Месяц назад

Sama IM01 - support micro=-ATX 24x24cm mobos e ATX case, this X79 used in the video is more miniDTX - 236,68x177,28mm.

@kornelijekovac9793 2 года назад

This is too fat, and too much unused space inside. Is there any thinner model for micro ATX and standard PSU? Something for iGPU, or maybe normal size PCIe?

@BensTechLab 2 года назад

This is a "standard width" case. Any thinner and you'll need a vertical GPU with PCIe extension cable and probably custom cooling on the GPU and CPU to make it thinner (the CPU cooler shown here nearly touches the side panel). At this point you move from a super low cost surplus parts build off ebay into the category of premium small form factor PC building market. You can search for "Optimum Tech" on RU-vid if you want to go that route! Lots of fun! But a totally different category of builds.

@kornelijekovac9793 2 года назад

@@BensTechLab Thanks for the answer. No I was thinking primarily about iGPU solution. Something under 30x30x10 cm. Isn't there any midground between this NR200 (which can fit enormous aftermarket cooler and 150W GPU, which is total overkill for home, office, HTCP, surfing machine) and that funny micro ITX cases which need external PSU and can't fit normal size MoBo (24.4 x 24.4 cm)...

@Razhiel100 3 года назад

Do you have dimensions of the motherboard?

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

The Machinist X79G v1.3 motherboard is about 215mm x 186mm. Just measured by hand with a ruler, so +/- 0.5mm for measuring by hand.

@Razhiel100 3 года назад

@@BensTechLab thanks

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

@@Razhiel100 You're welcome! Consider leaving the video a like to show your appreciation. ;-)

@4bezistudio 7 месяцев назад

everyone read this, plz pin this one , i searched all comments to find it @@BensTechLab

@ChrixOfficial 3 года назад

That isn’t actually a matx motherboard that is a mini dtx motherboard to my knowledge

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Mini dtx is even smaller with max 2 pcie slots. I posted the dimensions in mm on one of the comments on here for reference if thats helpful for your build!

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

It appears the matx wikipedia page isnt very good and there are better drawings on the mini-itx or atx wikipedia pages to show the varations. "The maximum size of a microATX motherboard is 9.6 × 9.6 in (244 × 244 mm). However, there are examples of motherboards using microATX designation despite having a smaller size..." I suppose you could call this one a "flex ATX" but the manufacturer uses the mATX designation with the upper standoff variation.

@evilballer 3 года назад

nothing about the gpu

@BensTechLab 3 года назад

Sorry, I did gloss over that as I was building these for servers no gaming machines. My GPUs are low power GT 710's which are great for server use and are low profile capable. But this case can accept larger cards! With a full length card you will possible run into interference with an SFX-L Power supply - so you end up constrained with how many watts you can fit in your PSU while still fitting your GPU in the case.