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Creality CR-10 S4 Review -- Is Bigger Really Better?

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This is a review of the Creality CR-10 S4, otherwise known as the enlarged CR-10. It was provided to me for review at no cost by GearBest.com. Below you can find links to this printer as well as the regular CR-10 and the CR-10S, and coupon codes to reduce the price. Below that are links to the models I printed in the video.
GEARBEST PRINTER LINKS:
*CR-10*
CR-10 US PLUG BLUE: bit.ly/CR10USBLUE
CR-10 EU PLUG BLUE: bit.ly/CR10EUBLUE
CR-10 US PLUG ORANGE: bit.ly/CR10USORANGE
CR-10 EU PLUG ORANGE: bit.ly/CR10EUORANGE
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*CR-10S / Upgraded CR-10*
CR-10S BLUE US PLUG: bit.ly/CR10SUS
CR-10S ORANGE US PLUG: bit.ly/2OJUC2P
CR-10S BLUE EU PLUG: bit.ly/CR10SEU
CR-10S ORANGE EU PLUG: bit.ly/2GpHHz9
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*CR-10 S4 /Enlarged CR-10*
CR-10 S4 US Version: bit.ly/CR10S4US
CR-10 S4 EU Version: bit.ly/CR10S4EU
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*CR-10 S5*
CR-10 S5 US Version: bit.ly/CR10S5US
CR-10 S5 EU Version: bit.ly/CR10S5
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*CR-10 Mini*
CR-10 Mini US Version: bit.ly/2nUha7u
CR-10 Mini EU Version: bit.ly/2nUBIgd
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*CR - X*
CR-X US Version: bit.ly/crealitycrx
CR-X EU Version: bit.ly/crealitycrx-eu
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*LD-001 DLP Resin Printer*
Creality LD-001 US Version: bit.ly/creality_ld-001
Creality LD-001 EU Version: bit.ly/creality_ld-001-eu
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MODELS:
Jabba the Hutt Idol: www.thingiverse.com/thing:144...
Heat bed adjustment knobs: www.thingiverse.com/thing:255...
Head bed strain relief bracket: www.thingiverse.com/thing:218...
Control box stabilizer: www.thingiverse.com/thing:255...
Low-Poly Pikachu: www.thingiverse.com/thing:376601
Pac-Man Chaser: www.thingiverse.com/thing:246...
Alphonse Elric Helmet: www.thingiverse.com/thing:166...
Republic Commando Helmet: www.myminifactory.com/object/...
Blood Demon: www.thingiverse.com/thing:187...
T-Rex Skeleton: www.thingiverse.com/thing:275091
Halloween Candy Skull Bowl: www.thingiverse.com/thing:259...
Halloween Pumpkin: www.thingiverse.com/thing:134066
David Gonzales Art: www.nopal.net/2016/03/star-war...

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@jpr-teknikinossebro5229 6 лет назад

To speed up the bed heating cut a piece of cardboard, same size as the bed, and cover the bed while it heats up. Cardboard is very good insulation so it will heat up three times faster.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

JPR-Teknik i Nossebro I may have to give that a try! I know some people have tried insulating the bottom of the bed but that seemed like more work than I wanted to go to

@ddewaard3265 6 лет назад

i always use a piece of extruded polystyrene construction foam (XPS) for my heated bed. works great!

@robertgreenbury4300 6 лет назад

Oooh, Great tip!

@_MoRZiLLo50 6 лет назад

Not bad! But CR-S5 is incoming :-D I have too many printers in my home, but CR-10 is tempting meeeeee ;-) Thanks for the review and for show us your prints.

@rondlh20 6 лет назад

Amazing, great job!

@zanpekosak2383 5 лет назад

The upgrades that you did come.standard with the newer models. Mine came with rubber feet, big leveling wheels and the strain relief all injection molded. I got the CR10S.

@michaelmundie1590 3 года назад

Did u get it from Gearbest or the Creality website

@CarolinaDiggers 5 лет назад

Gear Best also sells a ALFAWISE U10 3D Printer. Its build size is 400x400x500 and it runs around $460.

@bilmshimekryptik3612 6 лет назад

That Trex is Wicked!

@BIGDW-ie8st 4 года назад

Sounds great thanks.

@3dprintservice3dwp59 5 лет назад

Nice print of the pumpkin I have posted on Thingiverse! And thanks for posting the link.

@bclamore 6 лет назад

Hi, may I ask the power supply rating in Watts?

@BusyBeeCompany 6 лет назад

A couple of questions 1) As an inventor, is the software good for beginning designing for one off prints (modifications). 2) What do you use to clean away the supports, craft knife?, Dremel type tool, etc?. 3) Bonus question - Are the finished filament models easy to paint, if not, what coating do you use to let paint adhere, what kind of paint/spray can be used? and can you use a filler to smooth out areas of damage that might occur during support removal?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

1) I’m not sure what software you’re talking about. 2) I usually pull them away with my hands and/or needle nose pliers, and use sandpaper if there is any roughness left behind. 3) Paint adheres fine but I would recommend using some sort primer first. You can also use sandpaper and filler of some kind if you want a smoother surface

@BusyBeeCompany 6 лет назад

Thanks...im just an inventor who wants the ability to go beyond drawings....have a few decades of ideas I need to bring to demo proto.

@jonhuss6783 3 года назад

Hello, I have a Creality CR-10S Printer that I can't get to print. The z Axis goes up and down when homing but won't When Printing. It just stays on the first layer. Is this a printer problem or am i doing something wrong in Cura ?

@david01266 4 года назад

I want to buy the creality CR-10 s4 but undecided from where to buy it. The links you give are where you got yours? Do you recommend and how long did it take for you to receive yours?

@timmc6009 6 лет назад

Where's the jumbo rancor skull? It would be great if the cr10 had the same control box/software as the cr10s4 with the ability to swap filaments and resume prints on power failure. Congrats on the new printer as well. I'm still trying to figure out how to get mine lol.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Well, the CR-10S is their version of the CR-10 that has all of those extra features. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the vanilla CR-10 was discontinued in favor of it. As for the rancor skull -- I should do that! But I'm afraid it would take a huge amount of time and filament due to the nature of the model.

@timmc6009 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection yeah I just noticed the different cr-10 models. I think your right about discontinuing the original model. You need to get sponsored by a filament manufacturer like Maker geeks lol.

@asulliv1954 Год назад

I have a CR 10s v5 that makes a great paper weight changed the motherboard to a Creality 2.2 the firmware to Marlin then back to Creality and haven’t made 1 print in over a year since I got it I just don’t know what else to do,I’m new to this!!!

@BusyBeeCompany 6 лет назад

Have you used a 3d scanner to take objects for copying for repair etc and if so which one would you recommend to bring out the best quality?.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I’ve never used a 3d scanner but I have used photogrammetry services that scan things using lots of photos. They work pretty well but I’m not sure which to recommend since it’s been a while since I used one

@avejst 6 лет назад

Thanks for sharing :-)

@Kelvin555s 6 лет назад

Hi, I just bought a crealty CR10s from ebay, but realized there are many other cr10s which may be not authentic Crealty at ebay. Is there any way to know if the product is authentic Crealty or not?

@oystein91 6 лет назад

Great and informative video, easy thumbs up! I'm looking into buying either the CR-10S or the S4, any thoughts? I think printing storm-/clonetrooper and first order helmets will be the main task for quite some time but I haven't been able to find measurements for all. Will they fit on the 300*300 build plate of the CR-10S, or do I need to go with the S4 to be able to print in one go? Thanks for the video, you have a great channel!

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

oystein91 It depends on the model. Some helmets will fit on the regular CR-10 and some won’t. Probably the S4 is the best choice if that is what you are interested in because it gives you more flexibility.

@oystein91 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection thanks for the quick response! I viewed all your reviews + a couple others, and last night I landed on the S4. Printing masks will long term only be a small part of my total printing and I think flexibility as you mentioned will be key. Only problem I have with my choice is that the decision making went too fast for me to fully enjoy the hunt for a bigger printer :) Bet my Flashforge Finder will seem really small in comparison. Thanks again, and thanks for posting coupons, you saved me $130+ 25% VAT on the purchase. Regards from Norway

@Hawk1966 6 лет назад

So, how long did that giant Jabba take and how much filament??

@zact9941 5 лет назад

great review!! Quick question: I have never seen someone change the filament mid print to change the color. Could the same technique be used to make rafts or build surfaces? For example, if I wanted to make an ABS raft for printing a very large PC model?

@MightyJabbasCollection 5 лет назад

Zac T You probably could do that, although I think you might have trouble getting two different materials to stick well to each other in some cases

@muhammadrazyf7722 6 лет назад

How many days did you take to print a large size volume?

@NolanCreate 6 лет назад

How long did it take to vase mode the Jabba? Good deal on the lower price too. Curious on the rather low bed temp and long time frame to heat such a low number. Is it possible for you tell if the same heater set up/pad is being used on the beds? Great video you have me looking at these even more!

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

+NolanC 3DPrint Works I think Jabba took around two days but I can’t recall exactly. I think the S4 does actually have a larger heat pad than the standard CR-10, but it definitely takes a lot longer to keep for whatever reason.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

+NolanC 3DPrint Works By the way, the Jabba wasn’t printed in case mode, strictly speaking. Although the end result is similar

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Make that “vase mode” - can’t seem to edit my comment on mobile

@NolanCreate 6 лет назад

Not to bad at two days, Im kinda torn between the two machines in the vid or going resin. This certainly gave me more to consider

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

+NolanC 3DPrint Works Which resin printer are you considering?

@PaganWizard 5 лет назад

I went to the link you provided for David Gonzales Art, and they are saying on that site that this file is not available for download or purchase.

@MightyJabbasCollection 5 лет назад

The file isn't available for purchase, but he does sell products that use the design in various forms. Basically I was attempting to credit the artist because I discovered that the file was distributed without his permission

@abdulazizsulaiman7190 6 лет назад

hi man thnx for shearing this awesome printer loved your work, can i get a new coupon coz 800$ is a bit expensive

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I did add a new coupon for the CR-10 S4, although I think it's gone up in price since the last one.

@windowwatcher4044 6 лет назад

Would it be possible to make miniatures such as ships for Star Wars armada on a regular cr-10

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Generally speaking, FDM printers like this are not great at printing very small things, although I'm not sure exactly how small those ships are. Using a smaller diameter nozzle might help with small details. Of course you also need to have the models themselves to print

@ashtonallen9193 6 лет назад

Plz do a vid on your cura settings for the cr10

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Ashton Allen Unfortunately I don’t really use Cura so I probably won’t be much help there. I’ve been using Simplify3D since the beginning

@ashtonallen9193 6 лет назад

Can u do a vid on simplify 3D settings plz

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Maybe, although I'm pretty much just using Chris Elkin's profile, which you can download from the CR-10 Facebook group that I linked in my CR-10 review. Is there something in particular you want to know about?

@yanyanxxx 6 лет назад

what the size of the extrusions across the bed

@bobjames1586 6 лет назад

Does the CR-10 S4 utilize the same controller and drive motors/drive screws & belts as the original? (Therefore giving you the same print characteristics (steps per inch, etc.) as the original, just with a larger potential print volume.)

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I think so, but I'm not totally sure. The larger models do have wider belts for pulling the heavier beds, but I don't think that would affect the print characteristics

@bobjames1586 6 лет назад

I could see the need for the added width in the belt due to the larger platen (and print!) size/weight. Belts are generally not as good at transmitting torque as gears (in whatever format) and I would think that the wider/heavier belt would be desirable to minimize any potential stretch as well. In the set up of the controller, is there a way to calibrate the x and y motions? Or just to calibrate the axis travels in general? (I can think of a chance of needing to extend the bed travel somewhat, which I could do easily enough mechanically, but I might need to juggle the belt and drive sprocket sizes depending on what would be available. (Or perhaps to mod the unit to use Acme/ball screws all the way around.))

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Bob James I don’t think there is a way to do that with the stock firmware but I have heard of people flashing other firmware with other features. I don’t know the details though. I will say that with the S5 in particular, if you have a very large and heavy model on the bed, the extra weight can cause the bed to move a bit on the belt during fast travel movements, resulting in layer shifts. You can fix this by slowing down travel movement, but that will further slow down printing. I’ll touch on this in my final review of the S5, which is coming up in a little while

@AzizSoomroDesigner 6 лет назад

What setting you prefer for hollow print in cura, can you please guide.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I don’t really use Cura. Maybe someone else can answer.

@whitebaldfucker5425 6 лет назад

I think about that printer (s4), can you tell me how much space it taken with controller station at this position on the table? :) i find size of the printer, but without controller :/

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I can't seem to find anything to measure with at the moment, but you should probably assume that you will need 10 to 12 inches to the side of the machine to accommodate the control box

@whitebaldfucker5425 6 лет назад

I mean the whole, the control box and the machine - how much space do they occupy? On the manufacturer's website, it is difficult to find the size of this model

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

+WhiteBaldFucker Sorry not getting back to you. I’ve been busy, but I think you need to have about 36 inches wide by 30 inches deep and 25 inches tall

@whitebaldfucker5425 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection Gracias Seniore!

@darthsensei3838 3 года назад

I just bought the s4

@MightyJabbasCollection 3 года назад

Hope it works well for you. It's still my go-to printer.

@yosalov 6 лет назад

coupon for s4 EU not working

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Thanks. I have updated the coupon codes, but unfortunately GearBest has raised their prices on most of the printers.

@r-iii-rturbo9157 5 лет назад

Good review, Seth Rogan

@adamarzo559 5 лет назад

So I'm taking from this, 10 minutes into the video, that if I'm printing mostly small parts then buying something like the S4 isn't worth it at all compared to a regular Cr10s? The chances of me ever printing at 400x400x400 is literally never. I'm only going to be printing small parts. Electronics cases, misc stuff, doll stuff etc etc. Should I not shell out the extra $100 for this? What concerns me is waiting 20 minutes for the print to start. I have an Anet A8 right now and it takes about 10ish minutes to get prepared for printing. Not sure I want to wait 20 minutes for a print to start every time.

@MightyJabbasCollection 5 лет назад

There is really no benefit to this over the CR-10S other than the size, and there are some minor disadvantages as well, so if you're sure you won't need the extra size then by all means get the smaller printer.

@AlejandroRamirez-ox1yd 6 лет назад

Hello Can you help me with the adjustment of the tires on the base? I don't know how tight they must go, in some videos I have seen that moving one tire and if the others move everything is fine. But this is for the models that have the rail in the middle, the cr10 400 mm have two rail.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I think you want it tight enough that moving one wheel will move the whole base, but this only works with some of the wheels. Some of them are basically “extra” and can’t be adjusted

@AlejandroRamirez-ox1yd 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection how many tight do you use ?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I'm not really sure how to answer that. I basically just followed the instructions in the TinyMachines video for the regular CR-10 and applied them to the S4, so maybe try that if you haven't already

@BIGDW-ie8st 4 года назад

Would you recommend the CR10s4 for a first time buyer?

@MightyJabbasCollection 4 года назад

Dayton White It might be better to start with something smaller to learn the basics. Also I haven’t really been keeping up with the latest releases, so there may be better options now

@elliste1561 6 лет назад

will you do a jabbas palace roll call on amanaman?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

+lemongrease tv I do hope to do him eventually

@elliste1561 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection thanks :)

@rushtonworks9186 3 года назад

So for printing cosplay helmets in one piece is this the best printer? Enjoy your channel!

@MightyJabbasCollection 3 года назад

Rushton Works I would be reluctant to say that it’s the best printer since a lot of other ones of a similar size have been released since I made this video. I don’t really know what the best option is at this point. But I do think this is a good one and I still use it all the time, so it seems pretty durable with some relatively basic maintenance

@maxs.8146 4 года назад

Is the Cr S4 easier to handle than the S5 or should I go straight for the bigger 3D printer?

@MightyJabbasCollection 4 года назад

I don’t recommend the S5 unless you absolutely have to have a printer that size

@maxs.8146 4 года назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection Thank you very much for your quick response. So now I only have to decide between the Cr s4 and the anycubic chiron.

@jordanpastor8218 6 лет назад

Doesnt look like they offer the S4 version anymore, your link went straight to the CR-10

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

They call it the "CR-10 Enlarged" but it's the S4

@waypointmaintenance2231 6 лет назад

Does it still have the dual Z axis motors?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Yes. It’s always been listed this way on gearbest, for the record.

@Kelvin555s 6 лет назад

Any review on JGAURORA A5?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I actually got one of those a while back for review, but it broke before I had a chance to do much with it. Other people have been happy with theirs and it seemed good when it was working, so I can't say that it's a bad machine. But it does seem quite difficult to repair, or even disassemble compared to something like the CR-10. I don't even know what is wrong with mine (basically it now "pretends" to print, but doesn't actually heat up or move any of the mechanisms), and a few emails to support didn't really clarify matters.

@joefox9383 6 лет назад

Gear Best sure does love to send out free printers to people that do reviews. Unfortunately if your a customer and you give them money they give you nothing but run around about the printer being on backorder and how its the manufacturer not sending them printers to ship. After waiting OVER A MONTH for my TIVO Tornado to ship from Gear Best I canceled the order and got a refund. Never again Gear Best. Wish I had looked into the complaints against GB before loaning them $400 for a month.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I have heard from a lot of people that the Tornado is on backorder just about everywhere, because Tevo can’t keep up with demand. But GearBest is also not good about giving people accurate shipping estimates, or keeping them informed about their order status. Sorry it didn’t work out for you

@pumpkinheadghoul 5 лет назад

In my research to purchase my first 3D printer, I've read a lot of bad things from people about Gear Best not fulfilling orders, and people having to file PayPal claims just to get their money back. Seems it might be worth it to just pass on Gear Best and pay a little extra to avoid the headaches and weeks of wasted time.

@dalarthrian6277 6 лет назад

I've had some experience using a local printer, but I've been looking to get one for myself, what would you recommend?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Well, based on my experience, I probably would still recommend a CR-10 or CR-10S4, but I have to admit that I am not completely up to date about the latest printers. I have heard good things about the Prusa as well, but it's pricier.

@dalarthrian6277 6 лет назад

Mighty Jabba's Collection is the cr-10sr 's extra space useful or is it kind of excess?

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

If you mean the S4, I would say it's useful but it depends entirely on what you are going to be printing. I like to make big things, so not having to break them up into as many pieces is nice, but you might not need the extra space. The regular CR-10 is still quite large compared to most printers.

@BIGDW-ie8st 4 года назад

Is there one that you would recommend?

@MightyJabbasCollection 4 года назад

Like I said, I'm not really up to date with what has been released recently, so I'm afraid I don't know enough to make a good recommendation. But generally speaking, you should be able to get a relatively inexpensive one (sub-$300) and use that for a while to see what you think of 3D printing, and maybe then move up to something larger. Most people who really like 3D printing will probably want more than one printer anyway -- especially if one of them is a huge printer that can take very long to print

@JMDSupra 6 лет назад

Creality has a 500mm x 500mm x 500mm CR 10? I saw it on amazon Is that a type-o or do they really have 2 so close in size??

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Yes, that's the S5. It's quite a bit larger than even the S4 that I'm reviewing here. I actually just received an S5 for review so that will be coming at some point. I like to give these things a thorough test and print a lot of things before making a review, so it will be a while.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Adam Actually I may have a sort of “first look” video coming in the very near future...

@kingbro2 6 лет назад

I want that helmet of alphonse elric for my sister

@FreshAnton 5 лет назад

Grim Fandango *__*

@PlaidX 6 лет назад

Do the CR-10 5 its 500 x 500 x 500!

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Plaid X Stay tuned!

@tzachus 5 лет назад

Looking for the exact dimensions of a heating plate CREALITY CR-104S Dimensions between the holes and the length and width of the heating plate? pls help

@starbugmechanic5236 5 лет назад

how loud are these printers?

@MightyJabbasCollection 5 лет назад

Pretty loud. The actual printing noise probably isn’t as bad as the fan noise, especially since these machines seem to have a tendency to develop noisy fans after a while

@starbugmechanic5236 5 лет назад

@@MightyJabbasCollection do you have to worry about fumes with these 3d printers. I have never had or used a 3d printer.

@MightyJabbasCollection 5 лет назад

If you use PLA filament, fumes aren't really an issue. But ABS filament is basically just normal petroleum-based plastic, so it will smell like melted plastic. I don't use ABS though, and I think most people don't anymore, so it's not an issue for me.

@vgordin 6 лет назад

Hey. For bed leveling try using a Harbor Freight feeler gauge in the corners of the bed. Takes all of the guesswork out. www.harborfreight.com/32-piece-sae-metric-feeler-gauge-32214.html

@4funrc11 6 лет назад

Hey! I ordered a Tevo Tornado from GearBest, and today I get an email from them wanting more $ for shipping. Unbelievable, right? I've read that they have a history of doing this, but I thought they'd cleaned up their act. Nope, crooked as ever. Huge disappointment, especially since my order was accepted, paid, and (was to be) shipped to the USA. Yeah, days after my order I had to cancel because they are crooked sonsabitches, after all. Jeezus! Can't trust them or reviewers. A shame, really.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

4FunRC That sucks, but all I can say is that I’ve made several orders with them as a customer and haven’t really had any issues aside from slow shipping

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

Also, I know you said you already canceled your order, but my contact at GearBest has offered to help anyone experiencing issues with orders at GearBest. Her email is ferne@gearbest.com. Might be worth a shot.

@timmc6009 6 лет назад

This happened tome when I bought my Anet A8. They wanted me to pay more to upgrade my shipping. I just told them if they can't ship it for the price i paid then just issue me a refund. next day I got a shipping notice.

@4funrc11 6 лет назад

+Mighty Jabba's Collection Hey! :*) Yeah, I can (and have) live with slow shipping from China, but I can't live with being told that I have to pay more $ for shipping after a good-faith sale. Oddest thing I've ever had happen for an order from any Chinese company.

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I would refuse to pay as well. I think it's also in violation of the credit card agreement to do that. I'm not sure what the deal is because I've heard a number of stories like yours, but haven't experienced it myself.

@Phil-D83 6 лет назад

Piratebay it... Lol

@aerospaceTUdelft 6 лет назад

All the reviews say this is a good printer but having the printer for a month now I can safely say this is the WORST experience I've had with ANY product. NOTHING works properly out of the box, the frame/x axis not alligned, the glas bed is bend, the aluminium bed is a fucking disaster with random highs and lows, the damn controllerbox freezes if you scroll it fast, the temperature readings are all over the place, the heated bed takes 14min to 60c and those are just the things that I can think of right now. If you're not planning to spend A LOT more time and money to fix a defective product this is not for you. This is the stereotype chinese crap version of a cartesian printer. You've been warned

@MightyJabbasCollection 6 лет назад

I'm surprised to hear that, frankly. (Well, not the part about the bed heating slowly, since I mention that specifically -- 14 min to 60 is actually a very good time for this machine.) I haven't had to spend a cent to fix what I would call defects, and was getting good prints right out of the box. Maybe you got a dud.

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