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Daybell Trial Day 27: Defense's Most Important Evidence - Their Medical Expert! + ATTORNEY SANCTIONS 

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@Beana10
@Beana10 4 месяца назад
Present at the murder! I heard it. All you need is one juror to remember that slip.
@lisedale6767
@lisedale6767 4 месяца назад
No you need them all to
@WavesofJava
@WavesofJava 4 месяца назад
@@lisedale6767 if one heard it and remembers it, then that juror will bring it up in deliberation and ALL jurors will know(and can even review that part of testimony). yw
@laceywright8933
@laceywright8933 4 месяца назад
He said “The Mur” not “A Mur”. And yes, I caught it in the moment and instantly said “uh oh!!”
@JPop1240
@JPop1240 4 месяца назад
He may be a defense attorney, but he also knows how guilty his defendant is
@SusanLawrence-bp7df
@SusanLawrence-bp7df 4 месяца назад
@@JPop1240well said. Well said
@ItsMeCheryl1231
@ItsMeCheryl1231 4 месяца назад
Agreed! 💯
@jp642
@jp642 4 месяца назад
Exactly! THE and not A!!!
@divadaedalus
@divadaedalus 4 месяца назад
Lindsey. Blake is knocking it out of the park!
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
She's the best on that team. She does her homework and is ready when she starts her questioning
@lucybarrington4634
@lucybarrington4634 4 месяца назад
Go Lindsay Blake. If anyone in my family is ever a victim of a crime I want a prosecutor like her on the case.
@carolyndee4565
@carolyndee4565 4 месяца назад
👍👍👍
@ellendickey4769
@ellendickey4769 4 месяца назад
She is one classy and intelligent prosecutor-in both trials.
@KarenAZona
@KarenAZona 4 месяца назад
I think she is amazing!
@cynthiamittendorf3251
@cynthiamittendorf3251 4 месяца назад
She is such an amazing and talented attorney!
@fernandaolivares7926
@fernandaolivares7926 4 месяца назад
Well, there IS a precedent of asfixiation by a bag over the head... that is how JJ was killed. I forget, did the police find out where Alex was the night Tammy was murdered? Did he have an alibi?
@Mel71875
@Mel71875 4 месяца назад
Wow I was doing something while listening and I heard him say “murder” and I stopped immediately and thought to myself he blew that!
@jda58tex
@jda58tex 4 месяца назад
Same! Almost choked on my water!
@teripenny3335
@teripenny3335 4 месяца назад
He definitely thinks it’s a murder. In my opinion.
@e.starling141
@e.starling141 4 месяца назад
I agree. It wouldn't have come out that way otherwise.
@AliceofWonder-r7u
@AliceofWonder-r7u 4 месяца назад
Emma had the same type of slip in her testimony. Saying her dad just watched his wife die.
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
BINGO! 🎯🔥
@jeanwilson9925
@jeanwilson9925 4 месяца назад
I think that was taken out of context
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
@@jeanwilson9925 Emma said that he was traumatized and sad because he saw his wife die. That detail was NOT a part of any of Chud's many versions of how it happened.
@MamaPinks
@MamaPinks 4 месяца назад
Oohhh, I missed that!
@tasst2674
@tasst2674 4 месяца назад
He said MURDER!!!! Omg!
@livingmylife1955
@livingmylife1955 4 месяца назад
Of course Prior knows it's murder. The whole country knows that. It flowed so smoothly out of his mouth, because he knows.
@auntieree
@auntieree 4 месяца назад
He Actually called it Murder 😂
@livingmylife1955
@livingmylife1955 4 месяца назад
@@auntieree He certainly did. 🫣🤪
@princememphis7726
@princememphis7726 4 месяца назад
It's a murder case........
@Jeanniebeannie2
@Jeanniebeannie2 4 месяца назад
I worked at the ME's office in a big city and I know for a fact that MEs do talk with investigators to get more information. Especially with cases that have suspicious circumstances.
@Tackleboxandfishingpoles
@Tackleboxandfishingpoles 4 месяца назад
Back on December 21,2000 when my brother was murdered at work while helping his boss close her business for the day and two armed robbers came in, as both my brother and his boss stood holding their hands and arms up over their heads, the armed robbers shot my brother in his heart. While police officers and Detectives were there on scene the coroner finally showed up, BUT instead of going around the store counter to get a close look at my dead brother, that coroner only leaned over the counter, and barely glancing at my dead brother that stupid, incompetent coroner declared “shot in the back of the head”. ALL the L.E.O.’s there on scene knew that my brother was shot through his heart and a MEDICAL Examiner who performed his autopsy found ONLY ONE bullet wound, through his heart.
@sandytighe4854
@sandytighe4854 4 месяца назад
The list she asked the medical examiner about was powerful by itself.
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox 4 месяца назад
That was huge to me. Chad’s medical examiner witness was only given a very small amount of the evidence, and that small amount was only what the defense wanted her to see. She was not even close to being an expert witness about this victim or her cause of death.
@lucybarrington4634
@lucybarrington4634 4 месяца назад
When Lindsay Blake was bringing up the pillow or plastic bag after the witness said kneeling or sitting on the chest wasn’t likely be enough to suffocate someone it immediately made me think “but a person suffocating someone with a pillow or plastic could very well be kneeling or sitting on the victims chest to hold them down causing the bruise they found on Tammy’s chest.” I know it’s conjecture but it discredits John Prior trying to make the chest bruise insignificant.
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
Additionally, she couldn't explain the bruises on the arms AND she did allow for the possibility of more than one person being involved in what might have been a murder. FAR too many open "might have beens" for Pryor's tactic of creating credible doubt. The absence of evidence is not the proof of innocence - and we already have TONS of evidence.
@nancypicchi9224
@nancypicchi9224 4 месяца назад
Yes, and especially if a mans knee was pushing into her chest. Not a thorough defense Medical Examiner. She is not a pleasant person to listen to. Unlike the witnesses for the prosecution. Hired experts must appeal to all with their demeanor and likeability. This lady looks and sounds like a dud!
@michelleschneider3812
@michelleschneider3812 4 месяца назад
It also allows for a relatively quiet , clean murder scene that Garth would not have noticed anything when he came home.
@Nurseydogmom
@Nurseydogmom 4 месяца назад
Or the fact that JJ had a bag placed over his head so it doesn’t rule out that MO by these killers
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
@@Nurseydogmomexactly what I said
@kimdebruno
@kimdebruno 4 месяца назад
The whole confirmation bias thing got me. Prior spoon fed what little information he wanted his experts to have and then calls out the prosecution for "confirmation bias." 😂
@shirleysue228
@shirleysue228 4 месяца назад
kimdeb..., 100%. Good point.
@ChrissyM06
@ChrissyM06 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox 4 месяца назад
Amen. I made that same comment. She was confirmation biased by the defense.
@nikkirobison
@nikkirobison 4 месяца назад
If I was a juror, I would have picked up on it and written it down in my notebook.
@elaineelias2588
@elaineelias2588 4 месяца назад
I think he slipped up
@bodymindsoul60
@bodymindsoul60 4 месяца назад
Prior stating “murder” was huge in my eyes!
@MayaGTK
@MayaGTK 4 месяца назад
16:11 holy you’re right I totally missed this yikes
@dbentleyto95
@dbentleyto95 4 месяца назад
I think he should have said 'for murder', but he may have stepped in it with this error
@brookelyn1349
@brookelyn1349 4 месяца назад
Same! Especially since when Emma testified she stated at least twice that Chad saw Tammy die. Once was in response to John Prior asking whether she thought Chads grief for Tammys death was genuine even though he had already been in an affair with Lori for some time. Emma said something along the lines of….My dad might have been in an affair with Lori but I know he respected my mom as a person and was traumatized to see her die. The other time she says it, I cant remember what it was in response to because I didn't catch it. A content creator did and made a video about it. I clicked on the video thinking she had heard what I heard and it turned out to be a completely different statement about Chad seeing Tammy die than I had caught. It made me start to wonder just how much Emma knows and how long has she known it for? I had a feeling she knew some of what was going on and probably not for long but now I'm starting to think that Emma knows a lot more than I thought and I think she might have been in his close confidence for a long time.
@hannah3146
@hannah3146 4 месяца назад
​@@brookelyn1349She lives in the house her mother died! Not to mention the poor kids her own mom she doesn't seem to care about. She cried for her dad Prior wanted one of the kids to act sad, but I guess they're teachers not actors. I cannot believe they are teachers!
@TwoTreesVisuals
@TwoTreesVisuals 4 месяца назад
Seemed like he was talking in generalities and it was just a slip. But still a mistake.
@67jujub
@67jujub 4 месяца назад
Peter if you can do a live verdict stream it would be awesome. If not we understand you are very busy, but we definitely want you to go over it with us. Thank you for everything you do. We really appreciate everything you do!😊 Chad's attorney saying murder was bad imo, It would make me think as a juror that even his attorney thinks it was murder. LOL
@lumanwalters_
@lumanwalters_ 4 месяца назад
When is verdict?
@goatgirl5968
@goatgirl5968 4 месяца назад
​@@lumanwalters_Prior is ready to wrap up. Closing statements should take a couple of days. Late next week maybe.
@mzgizz
@mzgizz 4 месяца назад
Crossing fingers X
@denben8530
@denben8530 4 месяца назад
pETER. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Christopher Gregory case some of the judges rulings we trial watchers need some input from an lawyer like yourself. I know Daybell is huge trial right now and other high profile cases are not being covered. Maybe in the future you could look into that case
@Plantbliss
@Plantbliss 4 месяца назад
I think the line of questioning about a plastic bag possibly causing Tammy’s death was about connecting to the other person we know died with a plastic bag over his head. JJ
@lunaarcane5334
@lunaarcane5334 4 месяца назад
He was my first thought when prosecution said that
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox 4 месяца назад
I’m so glad that I wasn’t the only one who made that connection. Hopefully the jurors did too
@embeth446
@embeth446 4 месяца назад
I was cleaning alone in my house and gasped out loud when he said “the murder.” I could not believe I just heard that. Total second hand embarrassment for him. I had to rewind and look at the prosecution team. Ingrid’s head snapped up, and the guy in the middles eyebrows raised to the heavens. Then they looked at each other with a smile.
@kamihayes5147
@kamihayes5147 4 месяца назад
Me too! Although… appeals…
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
I totally missed that!
@cr-qo3ov
@cr-qo3ov 4 месяца назад
Because that's how they killed JJ they tape the plastic bag over his head that's why they brought it up
@lisolette1
@lisolette1 4 месяца назад
Oh wow I never put that together !
@ttuff86
@ttuff86 4 месяца назад
This was my exact thought!!!
@jo.randall
@jo.randall 4 месяца назад
The jury will only be thinking about JJ re the plastic bag... Those images will be consistently in the forefront of their mind with the bag idea
@ninarobinson393
@ninarobinson393 4 месяца назад
Agree
@ChrissyM06
@ChrissyM06 4 месяца назад
Yes
@nicolemartinez4476
@nicolemartinez4476 4 месяца назад
💯 Prior’s slip-up would impact me!
@princememphis7726
@princememphis7726 4 месяца назад
Hope you never get called for jury duty. You should only consider evidence and testimony
@joank.0421
@joank.0421 4 месяца назад
I didn't find the Defense medical expert testimony very compelling. The ME from Utah that did the autopsy post exhumation nailed it IMO 🎯
@ninarobinson393
@ninarobinson393 4 месяца назад
None of his experts brought anything to the table that wasn't there. When the guy said something like 'absence of evidence is absence of guilt' it really only brings in none of the hairs were Chad's which the prosecution already established.
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
@@ninarobinson393 Actually, the correct saying is "the absence of evidence is NOT the proof of innocence." And in this case, we have TONS of evidence.
@ninarobinson393
@ninarobinson393 4 месяца назад
@gaiagreen2690 thank you I couldn't recall. But he went on to try saying something like he realized it is. I think he could say Chad didn't leave hair behind but it doesn't prove he wasn't there.
@sherrinalexander3788
@sherrinalexander3788 4 месяца назад
I think he said exactly what he thought he said. It was a murder
@Enoughalready20237
@Enoughalready20237 4 месяца назад
Did he do that on purpose is my question so it’s an appellate issue?
@itsjustlaurel1531
@itsjustlaurel1531 4 месяца назад
I agree.
@ellendickey4769
@ellendickey4769 4 месяца назад
The court cannot spend time reviewing “what I meant to say….” He said it. Plain & simple.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
It's always easier to remember the truth than it is a lie
@CatherineCarlson-dw2qs
@CatherineCarlson-dw2qs 4 месяца назад
The "M" word is telling, however would not sway me because I have slipped up words. However, I do think it is confirmation bias to not review all of the documents and only reviewing what the defense sent. Because the defense is biased
@3mm3f
@3mm3f 4 месяца назад
yes it was a bit rich of prior mentioning confirmation bias when literally the def witness is paid for to lean towards the defense.. like pot calling the kettle black. for me, the list of documents (blake stated) this Dr. didnt review is much more substantial info because of what she eventually came up with "undetermined". but "the murder" slip-up is just his subconscious pushing it forward.
@sngray11
@sngray11 4 месяца назад
Thank you Peter for continuing to keep us updated on this trial because I don’t have the heart to watch this on a daily basis… so your recaps are invaluable to me. I also value your insights and expertise; as well as your unbiased discussions on this trial.
@carolyndee4565
@carolyndee4565 4 месяца назад
The female prosecution attorney is AMAZING!!
@carmenwright8374
@carmenwright8374 4 месяца назад
What about Emma saying that Chad watched his wife die?
@tabbyrose73
@tabbyrose73 4 месяца назад
$350 per hour for a death certified attorney is probably about right. The prosecution only making $65 an hour blows my mind.
@moimeself1088
@moimeself1088 4 месяца назад
Prior's not death certified, which was his reason for reaching out to this ratliffe dude.
@SheezaPI
@SheezaPI 4 месяца назад
And do you think that thousand bucks changed hands? I think Prior cooked that whole Ratliff thing up. That’s why Ratliff didn’t care about the monetary sanctions. He was out maybe the 130 to Prosecution.
@mmonkeyking1188
@mmonkeyking1188 4 месяца назад
There are many Public Defender Death certified lawyers, who make less than the prosecutors ($135,000 per year). One big difference is that Prosecutors pay is just that. The $350 per hour paid to private attorneys pays themselves, law firm split which includes staff, rents etc.. It is not uncommon for private attorneys to get paid 10-30 of their billed hourly fees...depending on how the law firm divides pay, generally based on how long the attorney has worked for the firm etc.... $350 per hour is not that high for private criminal defense attorneys.
@giralt23
@giralt23 4 месяца назад
He has to defend the undefendable thats why 😂
@stacy6994
@stacy6994 4 месяца назад
What you fail to add is they get holidays off, only work 8-5, get insurance, 401k , paid expenses in addition to their salary. Whereas private attorneys don't have these luxury. Further more state attorneys get paid every day if they have a case or not. Private nope.
@Sunset-chaser777
@Sunset-chaser777 4 месяца назад
Plastic bag brought up because of JJ- his death was ruled asphyxia also I believe
@kimdebruno
@kimdebruno 4 месяца назад
2 grown men could asphyxiate one woman.
@robinwatson5970
@robinwatson5970 4 месяца назад
I believe it was just a slip of the tongue, but at the same time I believe Prior has got to be tired of trying to defend someone he probably, in his gut, feels is guilty. I know attorneys defend people that they know are guilty, but this is a very long drawn out trial, and I can’t imagine he even likes Chad.
@suzys9098
@suzys9098 4 месяца назад
I agree with you. He's doing an amazing job, considering he isn't even getting paid and asked to be recused from the case. He is showing real professionalism. I bet he doesn't like Chad, either.
@realcanadiangirl64
@realcanadiangirl64 4 месяца назад
He's getting paid. Chad signed his property over to him for starters ​@suzys9098
@kim9057
@kim9057 4 месяца назад
​@@suzys9098 yes true but mind he wanted the publicity . He is the reason the trial is televised and public. He promotes himself. He knows his good and publicity helps to get more clients . He wanted out when he realized the money are short in Chad's portal.
@ItsMeCheryl1231
@ItsMeCheryl1231 4 месяца назад
I call it a "Freudian Slip!"
@amosfrench7169
@amosfrench7169 4 месяца назад
@@suzys9098he could of asked to leave once they ruled the case could be a DP case. not the week before trial
@daysofapril2667
@daysofapril2667 4 месяца назад
I have definitely wondered if they used a plastic bag on Tammy like they did on JJ, for sure. So bringing that up was smart in my opinion.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
Absolutely. First thing I thought of
@leaterry1504
@leaterry1504 4 месяца назад
Prior knows Chad is guilty but is doing his job with little defense to work with. Personally I can't stand him but that's his very unpleasant job. Chad's guilty!
@ChrissyM06
@ChrissyM06 4 месяца назад
Prior not very good at this
@Rob89139
@Rob89139 4 месяца назад
Is it just me or is anyone else seeing the similarities in Lindsey Blake crossing witnesses and the Johnny Depp attorney?
@JankyJann
@JankyJann 4 месяца назад
Nate Eaton from East Idaho News gave you a shout-out today.😊
@bethanywhite877
@bethanywhite877 4 месяца назад
Prior is a human being just like most of us and he has a job to do. I believe he believes Chad is guilty. How can you not believe he isn’t once you hear all the evidence? I would imagine very few people believe he is innocent in the deaths of Tammy, JJ and Tylee. I believe him saying murder was a slip of the tongue.
@amandamacabre
@amandamacabre 4 месяца назад
Yeah. I think defence attorneys are immensely important to the system, but I can't imagine what it's like to know/believe your client committed such awful crimes but still have to do your job.
@juliehm490
@juliehm490 4 месяца назад
I don't think Chad's children (the ones that testified) think /believe Chad is guilty. To me, they sounded like they drink his Kool-Aid & honestly are REALLY odd people!
@laurataylor8179
@laurataylor8179 4 месяца назад
And he his one lawyer fighting the powerful state with many lawyers probably exhausted
@jeaniechampagne8831
@jeaniechampagne8831 4 месяца назад
Indeed.
@Penny-61
@Penny-61 4 месяца назад
EVERYBODY caught it 🤭 Doesn’t matter what he was trying to say, he said it, they heard it, the world heard it 🤷🏻‍♀️
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox 4 месяца назад
I missed it, until it was pointed out when replayed
@coleebarley
@coleebarley 4 месяца назад
She brings up the plastic bag and bruising, because that was how JJ was killed.
@LeahJo13
@LeahJo13 4 месяца назад
It hit me like a ton of bricks the minute Prior said "at the murder". I think Prior KNOWS it's murder and that's why he slipped when he said "at the murder". If he believed it was a natural death he would have said death. That said, Prior was hired to do a job and he's trying his best. Unfortunately, the cards are stacked against him.
@ciobalina7445
@ciobalina7445 4 месяца назад
Yes, that's what I believe as well. It's to be appreciated that he tries to do his job to the best of his powers and knowledge. He is a very good lawyer. He is really defending his client.
@DoreenMarr
@DoreenMarr 4 месяца назад
Exactly!
@wkjeom
@wkjeom 4 месяца назад
There is no defense for Prior for what he's doing.
@Justme_1221
@Justme_1221 4 месяца назад
Freudian slips are an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings. And that is EXACTLY what prior did. Whoooopsie….
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
It is astonishing how many Americans confuse strutting around, aggressive speech, bullying the witnesses, being disrespectful, insulting and fat shaming dead victims, sl*t shaming women etc. with good lawyering! Actually, a good lawyer is not about courtroom theatrics and being a primitive, misogynist peacock. It is all about good manners, logical thinking, excellent examining skills, having a clear strategy, finding irrefutable arguments, quick thinking and connecting the dots. It is about legal competence, like Lindsay Blake has it. Pryor might be a colourful showman, but a murder trial is not about seeking attention, it is a solemn quest for justice for the victims.
@shirleygarcia6236
@shirleygarcia6236 4 месяца назад
When Pryor said murder yes that would make raise a eyebrow it makes a difference to me
@auntieree
@auntieree 4 месяца назад
I think it was extremely telling how quietly she started to answer after being asked about Brenda Dye.
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 4 месяца назад
💯
@juliefearheiley4084
@juliefearheiley4084 4 месяца назад
Can you please slow that recording down ? It’s impossible to follow !!
@debmidwest6596
@debmidwest6596 4 месяца назад
You can change the speed yourself in settings at the top of your screen.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
@@debmidwest6596I think that he does the speed fast since most have already watched that portion of the trial. So I guess he hopes that you remember that portion of it.
@sandygrogg1203
@sandygrogg1203 4 месяца назад
I definitely agree with you about Melanie. Actually, I think they were two or three more people who should’ve been arrested as accessories before, and or after the fact.
@MS-zh6yf
@MS-zh6yf 4 месяца назад
They are considered unindicted co-conspirators.
@stephaniewinn2781
@stephaniewinn2781 4 месяца назад
the kids lie so hard for chad
@JudeNance
@JudeNance 4 месяца назад
They believe the lie their father told them.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
@@JudeNanceeither that or they were in on it. Or both. Maybe they believed the lie about her being dark so thought they needed to help get rid of her demons or whatever it was he said about her
@lisaknapp2803
@lisaknapp2803 4 месяца назад
Holy cow!! I bet the prosecution has never been happier that an objection was overruled. "present at the murder". One of the best moments for the prosecution case yet was out of the mouth of the defense attorney
@princememphis7726
@princememphis7726 4 месяца назад
Not really
@kimschofield911
@kimschofield911 4 месяца назад
I really think the prosecution has this one, they've presented a very solid case. I don't think when he said murder it will be a big deal, but he did say it and if they pick up on it they may consider it something. I think if I were on the jury I would have a hard time with the defense witnesses simply because the defense has tried to slip in and misrepresent testimony. He twists witnesses words and tries sneaky tactics which causes me to mistrust him. His witnesses need to be really good for me to put a lot of stock into the testimony. That may be wrong, and I would try to stay fair, but I'm not sure I trust the defense to be honest. Let's hope his witnesses are good so the trial is fair. I think an obnoxious attorney can affect the outcome when they come across as dishonest.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
1000% correct! Spot on!! I don't trust him either. I understand ensuring reasonable doubt but if you have to lie or misrepresent testimony then you're about as believable as an ocean in the middle of the US. If I were a juror I'd have a hard time believing his witnesses or anything that he tried to prove because he comes across as so dishonest.
@Seen_evrything_now
@Seen_evrything_now 4 месяца назад
I would think being called as an expert you would want to have as much history and review as much information as possible.
@DoreenMarr
@DoreenMarr 4 месяца назад
But the Defense wouldn't, because they are paying her to say what they want her to say. They would only pass on to her what benefits their side.
@suepinakis3031
@suepinakis3031 4 месяца назад
Lindsey Blake mentioning the plastic bag was a clever way to remind the jury of what these people were capable of because of JJ. As soon as she said it, that’s what I thought of.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
Me too!
@Cassie-pt7mt
@Cassie-pt7mt 4 месяца назад
Nothing will undo Tylee's DNA on Chad's pickaxe. Nothing will undo Tylee's dismembered body on Chad's property. Nothing will undo JJ's body buried on Chad's property. Nothing will undo the ME determining Tammy's death as homicide. Nothing will undo Chad's light and dark scale... or that all the people who were murdered, Chad determined to be zombies. Nothing will undo that his only tie to Alex was his goddess, Lori. Chad is evil. A true monster.
@evangelinelight4417
@evangelinelight4417 4 месяца назад
Cassie, jailhouse conversations working through their “blueprint”!
@tanyachristensen5330
@tanyachristensen5330 4 месяца назад
I agree 💯
@Anise721
@Anise721 4 месяца назад
Agree!
@nhlpens583
@nhlpens583 4 месяца назад
I heard Prior say it, thought WHAT? rewound and listened again. If I were a juror I wouldn't forget that one!
@BB-yt8lx
@BB-yt8lx 4 месяца назад
Immediately noticed, rewound and watched again…. He was already toast but that was confirmation. Poor Tammy.
@priscillaulland1263
@priscillaulland1263 4 месяца назад
I think 300.00 an hour for the defense and the time he took to review things was reasonable.
@Ldeb54
@Ldeb54 4 месяца назад
I loved the expression on the prosecutors when he called it “the murder”. I caught it right when he said it.
@Keepontruckin1904
@Keepontruckin1904 4 месяца назад
This case was over for me when I heard Chad Dudbell say “cheek to cheek, loin to loin”. He was a love sick puppy that would do anything for this new “goddess” that showed him attention
@hedgehogsinspace
@hedgehogsinspace 4 месяца назад
1. JJ was found suffocated with a bag. 2. Prior's client is charged with murder, the slip doesn't do anything for me. 3. I was shocked at how low the prices were, I expected at least a half day for multiple people at a higher cost per hour. I thought it would be in the tens of thousands.
@StineKarinEdland
@StineKarinEdland 4 месяца назад
Happy to be able to watch live at this time from Norway 😊👏🏼Hi Peter and everyone! 🤗
@janatodesco2369
@janatodesco2369 4 месяца назад
Yeeeah, hey foreign watcher, greetings from Germany 😁
@laurataylor8179
@laurataylor8179 4 месяца назад
Hello from salt lake city utah USA
@rosebowled
@rosebowled 4 месяца назад
Sorry to ask what is probably a dumb question but does this jury know that Lori was already found guilty?
@ashleynewnam8562
@ashleynewnam8562 4 месяца назад
I believe the answer is no! I don’t think they are allowed to know that.
@livingmylife1955
@livingmylife1955 4 месяца назад
They might know that from before Chad's trial started, but, it can't be brought up or discussed in court. They can only consider evidence heard in court.
@janebryant7794
@janebryant7794 4 месяца назад
Good question
@bethanywhite877
@bethanywhite877 4 месяца назад
Good question
@janebryant7794
@janebryant7794 4 месяца назад
Live stream the verdict please if you can
@WillRodriguez-my1cl
@WillRodriguez-my1cl 4 месяца назад
I was painting my house, this video was on the background, I heard murder and it stopped me in my tracks!!! Very noticeable!
@tabbyrose73
@tabbyrose73 4 месяца назад
I feel like her not reviewing all medical records was extremely negligent
@MayaGTK
@MayaGTK 4 месяца назад
On attny’s part, most likely - tho it may be a common legal tactic to only provide certain documents for an expert & they hope prosecution doesn’t question it as they did here? But yeah, seems like she should have had - or at least requested - ALL RELEVANT DOCS anyone else had
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
This expert's testimony was luke warm at best, because she essentially said that, judging by the incomplete paper evidence that she got, she wasn't sure what the cause of death was. Since she did NOT perform the autopsy on Tammy like the prosecution's expert, her not being able to decide how it happened is irrelevant at best - because she factually testified that it MIGHT have been murder. That is not what Pryor brought her here to say! As for Pryor's gigantic Freudian slip, if one juror noticed it, that would be enough.
@lisedale6767
@lisedale6767 4 месяца назад
Its not enough. They all have to believe hes guilty without doubt. Its the defense that only needs one person to doubt the prosecution.
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
@@lisedale6767 Fortunately, Pryor is essentially only trying to create doubt about Tammy's death, and I don't think he is succeeding. There are no doubts whatsoever about Tylee and JJ, however, and only a single one of those murders is enough for a life sentence or a DP. With a dead woman in his bed, two dead children in his garden and so much evidence of his murderous cultic teachings, there is no way Chud is EVER going to see freedom again. That jury is not stupid.
@brittanycoyne4973
@brittanycoyne4973 4 месяца назад
With the plastic bag, humans are creatures of habit. If they knew it worked for JJ, why wouldn’t they do it for Tammy? I think jurors can connect the two.
@lesleywatkins1172
@lesleywatkins1172 4 месяца назад
Yes please live stream the verdict!
@Justme_1221
@Justme_1221 4 месяца назад
Freudian slips are an unintentional error regarded as revealing subconscious feelings. And that is EXACTLY what prior did. Whoooopsie….
@vickiefrisbie1000
@vickiefrisbie1000 4 месяца назад
What I took away from their “expert” testimony is that JP only provided a few of the documents to get the result he wanted. On cross examination she said that she didn’t need to have all the documents or that they don’t allow outside bias to predict the cause of death. Isn’t that in relation to an autopsy performed before the burial? Wouldn’t a washed and embalmed exhumed body require a detailed medical history along with investigation notes to better understand the person’s body?
@gaiagreen2690
@gaiagreen2690 4 месяца назад
😄 Bingo! We have ALL noticed Pryor's attempts to manipulate the jury by doing exactly what he was accusing others of, and after so many days listening to his clown show, the jury will have noticed that too.
@sallyannchappell5671
@sallyannchappell5671 4 месяца назад
The idea of confirmation bias was not a good strategy for Prior because I thought, why are the documents withheld from her, a risk of creating confirmation bias but the documents Prior gave her, NOT a risk of confirmation bias? Some of the documents she received weren’t medical documents FYI, there were some interviews. What great prosecution documents were withheld then? If I was a jury member, I’d want to read them now.
@janeesesummers5555
@janeesesummers5555 4 месяца назад
I was sitting in the courtroom when Prior slipped and said “murder”, I will say the jury did notice, eyebrows were raised and notes were taken.
@LoriWallis
@LoriWallis 4 месяца назад
Please take a second & SMASH the thumbs up👍🏻... Like👍🏻Like👍🏻Like👌🏼
@JuliePrussack-ki4yq
@JuliePrussack-ki4yq 4 месяца назад
I don’t think it necessarily matters if a juror realizes consciously that they heard “murder” or not. As a lawyer you choose your words very carefully because they have an impact on how the statement is heard. And I think his using the word murder subconsciously permeated the jurors minds.
@EllEss331
@EllEss331 4 месяца назад
Does anyone think Alex and Tammy died of the same thing that may be undetectable?
@elisavelarde4410
@elisavelarde4410 4 месяца назад
Omgggg! "Not present at the MURDER" ...... WOW
@sandytighe4854
@sandytighe4854 4 месяца назад
Prior went from throwing Lori under the bus to attempting to throw Melanie gibb under the bus.
@Kim-tl4wz
@Kim-tl4wz 4 месяца назад
Anytime I see someone talking about other people, my initial thought is, you need to point out their mistakes and failures so hopefully no-one notices your own. So him doing that seems like he's doing the same for Chad. Get people's focus off Chad and on someone else
@sandytighe4854
@sandytighe4854 4 месяца назад
@@Kim-tl4wz exactly!
@myboxershorts
@myboxershorts 4 месяца назад
Chad should use his money on a better attorney instead of the Bullsh*t expert witnesses . Did they put a plastic bag over J.J.'s head ?right ?
@deborahduncan5988
@deborahduncan5988 4 месяца назад
He said not present AT the murder. 😂😂
@divadaedalus
@divadaedalus 4 месяца назад
If he said a murder I wouldn’t have thought about it. He said the murder. Grammatical or Freudian?
@bcoull290
@bcoull290 4 месяца назад
Prior is doing the best he can. Him trying to implicate Melanie is Chud hating on Melanie.
@livingmylife1955
@livingmylife1955 4 месяца назад
And I can still hear Melanie on that call with L.& C saying I think you're being deceived by the devil
@miami-mishie
@miami-mishie 4 месяца назад
Prior said "statements from others that weren't present at the murder" and I interpreted that as "believe Chad's statement, he was present "
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox
@NunyaBeeswax-ck8ox 4 месяца назад
Me too. I made the same comment. Believe only the murderers, because they were the only ones present for the murder.
@Realsisrael
@Realsisrael 4 месяца назад
Tammy talking from the grave since her kids let her down!
@tanyachristensen5330
@tanyachristensen5330 4 месяца назад
💔 💯
@raqueacevedo1509
@raqueacevedo1509 4 месяца назад
No MR??.… So??. I do understand she just reviewed what Prior sent her but if you called yourself an expert you need Medical Records...🙄
@DoreenMarr
@DoreenMarr 4 месяца назад
At the very least, medical records would matter -- a lot more than what the husband said!
@kimzwolinski9919
@kimzwolinski9919 4 месяца назад
I live in Northern Michigan. The one time in my life I had to hire a lawyer it was $600.00 per hour. That was about 6 years ago.
@leaterry1504
@leaterry1504 4 месяца назад
Wow!
@JaimeMesChiens
@JaimeMesChiens 4 месяца назад
My bf is a prosecutor. He is paid about 20% of what a defense atty makes.
@barbarabannasch3458
@barbarabannasch3458 4 месяца назад
I’m in Northern lower Michigan 👋👋👋
@kimzwolinski9919
@kimzwolinski9919 4 месяца назад
@@barbarabannasch3458 I should’ve worded it differently. I’m not in the Up I’m in Northern lower MI on Lake Huron 🙋‍♀️🤗
@barbarabannasch3458
@barbarabannasch3458 4 месяца назад
@@kimzwolinski9919 I am too!!!!!
@ArtandGrace
@ArtandGrace 4 месяца назад
Go ahead & hit the 👍👍👍 so you don’t forget!
@olgatrilogymartin3143
@olgatrilogymartin3143 4 месяца назад
Always
@julieloucalcote1368
@julieloucalcote1368 4 месяца назад
I do before I even start the video
@bryanrussell6679
@bryanrussell6679 4 месяца назад
Prior wants to say that by giving the M.E. all the extra material to review would create confirmation bias. Isn't he doing the exact same thing by withholding the information, in order to steer the M.E.'s opinion to align with the defense? It's just a different bias.
@evangelinelight4417
@evangelinelight4417 4 месяца назад
I about spit out my coffee when he said that!!!!
@nhlpens583
@nhlpens583 4 месяца назад
😂 Same here!
@AndImsomelady-fq6cw
@AndImsomelady-fq6cw 4 месяца назад
I think the listing of everything could cut both ways, all those reports could also help imply bias on the part of the state.
@travelintheresa7884
@travelintheresa7884 4 месяца назад
Off topic, but would love you to explain the new motions in Kouri Richens case. Defense filed to remove prosecution, then filed to withdraw from defending Kouri. So will the multiple motions filed by them go away if they are allowed to withdraw?
@sandygrogg1203
@sandygrogg1203 4 месяца назад
Peter, sorry buddy, but you just can’t get around it. It was a Freudian slip. It’s all there is do it he was not thinking about murder in generalities, because he knows his client is guilty as sin. It just popped out.
@lovewins8238
@lovewins8238 4 месяца назад
Please stream the verdict if you get the chance. I know I would certainly appreciate it as well as others. Love to watch your videos Peter. You’re a great teacher! Thanks! 😊 P.S. A part of me wonders if JP said the big “M” word on purpose…🤔
@MissMolly3377
@MissMolly3377 4 месяца назад
Lindsay is such a great lawyer.
@ellielane4780
@ellielane4780 4 месяца назад
This man had the AUDACITY to say that the plastic bag was just conjecture. Like they didn’t find it TAPED over his head with scratch marks indicating he tried to escape
@nieveswhite3859
@nieveswhite3859 4 месяца назад
They talking about Tammy
@thentil
@thentil 4 месяца назад
The state only charging the salary paid to the prosecutors is NOT comparable. None of the overhead of the state is included in that; taxes paid on behalf of the employee, administration like HR, office space, etc. The State would need to bill the attorney out at a rate closer to 120-150/hr to pay that salary. To put it another way, the state attorney might earn 50/hr, but a lawyer billing at 50/hr would only see 20-25 of that as salary; the other half is going towards all those same things - office space, administration, employer taxes.
@carolinahurtado6634
@carolinahurtado6634 4 месяца назад
Darn it! I missed the live stream! 😞 But catching up with the awesome amazing replay crew 🥰!@TLYK,Peter i.m.o.🤔I don't think that Judge Boyce appreciates that John Prior seems to want to be in his chair when making his Objection arguments? Always stating that The State cant interrupt his defense always claiming that the State has had ample time to review evidence/witnesses with all thier 4 lawyers and that Prior feels that that The State doesn't get to bend the RULES! Overall I agree that John Prior has been on his toes with every witness! As always I love all your videos and professional Attiney input on avery case!🥰
@mortalclown3812
@mortalclown3812 4 месяца назад
When I remember how Lori had a team who didn't do very much and see Prior working this hard without any assistance, I'm more impressed by the job he's doing. I still think things look grim for Chad and will be surprised if all three murder charges don't result in guilty verdicts. (But if there's doubt, it could be in Tammy's death, unfortunately.)
@rebelduck9077
@rebelduck9077 4 месяца назад
Glad to hear the typo lawyer got sanctioned. What a clown who took up valuable time and resources he wasted. This was the day (when he was sanctioned) that judge Boyce won me over as FAN❤
@GolfMamaBear
@GolfMamaBear 4 месяца назад
Thanks for your insight! Yes! Do a live stream for the verdict!
@melanietaylor2137
@melanietaylor2137 4 месяца назад
Sometimes, it seems like Prior is working for the State.
@carolerichard5250
@carolerichard5250 4 месяца назад
Experts just want their $$$. IMO their value (since they are bought and paid for) is very low.
@mykelagreenwood1586
@mykelagreenwood1586 4 месяца назад
I work in a law office. The top lawyer gets $375 an hour, but the other lawyers get $310. We don't do criminal defense.
@ergogrrl
@ergogrrl 4 месяца назад
IMO, “Present at the murder” is not going to make a difference in the verdict. It is, however, very, very cringy.
@darcydewitt8569
@darcydewitt8569 4 месяца назад
I totally caught it when he said it!
@brightbleu
@brightbleu 4 месяца назад
Oh, I heard John Pryor say "murder" and I was busy doing other things while listening. Huge slip up in my opinion. Peter, could you ask John to turn down your outro. It's so much louder than the rest of the podcast that it makes me jump every time I hear it. Thanks!
@Sumtingwong180
@Sumtingwong180 4 месяца назад
I cought prior saying murder in real time n it was big for me that he said it.
@pamelarinke9745
@pamelarinke9745 4 месяца назад
Yes for the verdict.
@Atalinay
@Atalinay 4 месяца назад
I didn't catch the slip up live and had to replay it multiple times before I caught it. As a juror it wouldn't be a big deal bc he has stated the opposite 100x. That said I found it interesting and wonder if that's what Prior actually believes.
@elizabethschweickart5545
@elizabethschweickart5545 4 месяца назад
I would not touch this trial for $300.00 an hour.
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