Demon 170 vs Plaid, Quarter Mile Shootout! RacerX vs. Dragtimes 

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RacerX did someone infiltrate your account? I just received a strange comment from RacerX9 with a Telegram account.

Did you try off idle launch ?

​@@briandoody4954 YES I was wondering the same thing...

Thank you. I'm not sure how to get RacerX's attention with this, but the comment sent to me was just very strange. Take care and Happy New Year.

Thanks for setting all this up buddy.. It was fun.. We will definitely do it again

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Yea those last launches looked insane.. geez. The Demon has to be an experience I'm sure.

That second race was great but those 3 electric motors and AWD are hard to overcome. You’d have to be making more HP than a 170 makes to reel it in and go around it. Usually ICE cars with 1300hp or more are able to stay in front of Plaids. Anything less and it’s close unless it’s a real lightweight car.

@@speedracerjeff Not really, the problem is just putting down the power in a petrol car. As I said in another comment, once launch control software gets more advanced and practical for aftermarket racing purposes, EV's wont really stand a chance. We are some years away though from TC being able to perfectly control a petrol engine launch and distribute the power properly.

Sounds like you should buy one.

More like 99% most will probably stay under 500mi. Just to be sold in 2040 for 1.2mill or so..

@@dnegel9546 By 2040 this car won't be worth a dime. And Dodge will be gone. As it is now they have zero cars for sale for at least 2 years, only what's on the lots today. Bye bye Dodge. 🎬

@@cuda426hemitrash comment lol

My gpa has a gt500 He's had 3 years with 3000 Miles

And can beat it

Only with everything working and prepped. Meh.

​@@Protoscopeouch Tesla guy uses prepared track argument when everyone said Tesla Plaid numbers were with prepared track and all the Tesla Fanboys had a meltdown.at the time. This makes no bones about it pure drag car. You just don't like the numbers.

On a prepared surface only. Not at a stop light. On the highway from 120 and up my rt handled a plaid. I was surprised. Unless it was upbadged.

What video did you watch? The Plaid smoked him on the launch

Insane that you can buy a street legal car and wheelie it!

Its an electric car with perfectly controlled power ramp.. Tbh, I have never understood trying to compare EV's to piston/petrol cars. Its pointless comparison. Launch Control Software just isnt quite there yet to control piston engines on launches yet. Porsche is really good, but its so absurdly complicated that it is not practical for aftermarket use yet. Itll get there tho. But then again, much of the fun of drag racing, is dialing in your car. Thats why Tesla's are so lame and boring at the strip. You just run the exact same time every time and there is next to no driver or team input into the car.

​@@JonHop1so let me get this straight... you're upset because Tesla built the perfect drag car? 🤔

@@TheMadmax0609 huh? upset? Why would I be upset? Tesla is not the perfect drag car, not even close. I was simply pointing out, EV cars are a completely different category. Just like all petrol cars have classes, EV's are their own class. EV's will never be able to compete with combustion drag cars competitively as the power needed would be insane and would make the cars too heavy. Tesla's at the moment, are probably pretty close to the best they can be. I would say probably a low 7 is the fastest an EV could run, unless some miraculous battery technology came out in the future. But to my point about classes, just like there is engine and drivetrain classes, putting an EV up against, lets say a 1200hp rwd stick car, would be a massive advantage for the Tesla. Just as, putting a Tesla up against a 2000whp awd Auto drag car would be a huge disadvantage to the Telsa. I think pinning EV's against combustion cars is just pointless.

@@JonHop1 Tesla's at the moment are pretty close to the best they can be??? 👈🤣🤣 Electric performance technology is less than a decade old. Face it dude, internal combustion is done. Even a drag car has to be rebuilt after every run. And a 1200 horsepower car can't run back to back to back at the drag strip.. You have to cool off the engine. It's pathetic! 😂

@@TheMadmax0609 Bud, tell me you have no clue what you are talking about, without telling me you have no clue what you are talking about.... Let me educate you kid. EV's use BATTERIES. With current technology, they are at a crossroads as to weight/power output. Meaning, if EV's want to go faster, they will get massively heavier, and they are already incredibly heavy to begin with. Our shop has already tested a Dual Plaid battery setup... The car weighed 7,000 lbs, and had double the power, yet was slower and was destroying the drivetrain... Also, I have no clue what you are talking about with rebuilding an engine every run. Our car is 2000whp BBC and has been on the same engine and internals for 3 years.. I am not sure why you are getting so defensive. I like EV cars. But, for performance purposes, they are incredibly lame and boring. There are pros and cons to each. EV's you get a few runs at max power, then you have to recharge. Whereas combustion engine, you can make unlimited passes all night and just have to refill. You can make cross country drives far easier in combustion cars. Again, pros and cons to both.

Yes sir I hate when guys don’t use special vehicles for their intended use just locked away in the garage that’s terrible 😞

Fuk a garage Queen… Let’s Go 🇺🇸

thanks buddy.. I really appreciate it

Better power to weight with the demon 170 vs a plaid and much larger sticker tires along with drag tuned suspension, line lock, trans brake etc. Multiple striped down plaids weighing what the demon does have gone 8.7x still st legal on st tires. For 89k plaids the best value per dollar!

But did you imagine his engine would blow already?

@@captainamerica9353 Well.....no. I thought everything else in the driveline breaking would protect the engine for a bit.😅

@@bwalker4194 - that's funny, but yeah I'd rather replace a u-joint than an engine. Racing means stuff will break.

I did.... The only thing that gets old is all the excuses your opponent makes for their loss

@@Rubenplat that happened to me back in the 80s in my 85 Mustang five speed by a guy in a Buick grand national I’m rolling through the gears and he’s driving out of my life with the air on sipping coffee

Exactly! I’m so pissed that EV won! They’re all on Facebook praising that damn Tesla from this. 😒😞

I saw that

and holds 5 people with full interior and way further range.

From your comment it doesn’t really seem like you dislike the plaid lmao

Yeah yeah and if u buy a blow up doll u can bust a nut without having to buy dinner and u can stow her in the frunk.

It's hard to dislike the King of the Road, I suppose. ;) ​@@Symmetricall

F that plass

Plaid is the real deal...

ev won't kill ICE. Porsche and Toyota are already all-in on alternative or synthetic fuel. It'll be a rough start to get it going until it's capable of easy mass production, but it will most likely be the future, so combustion engines, even ones killed off by the manufacturers will return

I think it could be better if they copy the new Corvette hybrid where they use an electric battery for performance reasons.

@technologicallychallengedt8549 that would be a sick idea!! Imagine an AWD 170!! I have no clue what sort of drivetrain could convert that sort of HP to both axels

X, I’m impressed you were able to run the 170 that well considering the short time you’ve had it. Awesome video! Tesla guy seemed super nice too. I prefer a car that requires driver skill. Demon may need more input and practice but to me, the AWD electrics are like entering a shooting competition with your weapon clamped in a Ransom Rest….anybody can do it. EV isn’t my cup of tea but I appreciate the technology. Demon puts the drivers skill to the test. Love that.

Worst problem with Dodge is gearing Cars like McLaren 720s 765LT seem to perform better than 99% of RWD cars reason is gearing

E-cats are coming...⚡️🇺🇸

They have a delay also there's a tune he can get like all the track hawks have its not allowing the traction to be fully disabled

From what I understand the 2-3 lag is built in to protect the Transmission.

​@lisam4503 would make sense, the demon 170 has been dynod 900+whp If they are using the exact same trans it's at the breaking point lol especially if it's launching this hard!

They beefed up everything. Its just supposed to be a safeguard from grenading the Transmission. @@leopapio683

Torque reduction, GM has the “pop” between shifts that does the same Thing.

I was slightly faster on my very first time ever racing the car.. not sure what people want here

What you describe is a feature, not a bug for a car enthusiast. My grandmother can run a 9.4 in a Plaid. I'm pretty sure there are trained chimps that can do it to. That's cool, and amazing tech - props to Elon's crew. But after you do it a few times, what's next? All you really did was spend the money. In the meantime, Paul's on his way to figuring out his car, refining his technique and eventually pushing toward the 8's - maybe even modding the car a bit. He'll feel a sense of achievement, accomplishment, and eventually will be faster than any Plaid because there isn't much they can do to improve the car - hardware or driver wise. Thank god for the free market - you can take either route. But don't knock it even if its not for you.

​@RacerX9 don't worry bro. It's not you but them. There are some very stubborn oldies who cannot accept change and absolutely hate fast EV's. Do your thing and never mind the haters.

Ehhhhhh more like after experience takes effect you can mostly recreate the run. Basically one comes out of the box but has extreme degrading issues, the other is ready but needs lots of experience to get an actual handle on it.

Someone gets it! Plus there is no differential between the electric motor speed and tire speed. Max torque at zero rpm. The ICE must contend with 2000+ rpm engine speed vs. zero wheel speed at launch and manage the difference. Much tougher.

​​@@KZ-se4ikYes and that is why the plain will always be boring. Very fast but boring. So easy a caveman can drive it.

👾He is a 🍀drag racer 😎✌️

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@@ovalsxthe car has already gone 8.99 bone stock lol

​@@johncena-hq1tiIf it runs 8.9 stock then why are people getting their 170s and nobody has been able to run the time dodge claimed it can run😂😂. All hype 🤣🤣

​@@johncena-hq1tihow many times can it do 8.9? Consistency and reliability wins races not the hope of a unicorn time.

takes A driver to get to those low numbers in an ICE car, the Tesla your grandmother can do it and the 170 sounds way cooler

Yes, I’m thinking it’s the lack of aero on the Demon keeping the MPH down with similar power to the Plaid.

The predecessor to the Plaid, the P100D (the one that introduced "Ludicrous Speed" mode), was basically just as fast off the line, but above 60mph it would get reeled in fast. The main difference with the Plaid is it can maintain that acceleration for the full quarter mile and beyond, and deliver it even with a much lower battery charge state.

Damn. The plaid is fool proof. Pedal down and go. That's unfortunate X. Still would rather the Demon over a plaid.

You say that like going electric is an upgrade. The plaid is already slower than it was from the factory after 30k miles. What a joke. Racing isn't just about winning. It's about the cars and how they're built too. EV has none of that.

@@PyroBlonde7777 like that Demon would be great after being a daily driver for a couple of years? 9.39 with a daily family sedan is pretty incredible.

@@LearningFast the hellcat power plants are extremely reliable and made for daily use. Then, if the engine does have an issue, you can simply replace the effected part. Meanwhile, the EV needs the entire battery replaced. Which, on its own, is the cost of an entire vehicle at 35k. All to have the car equivalent of a toaster with no personality or soul. EV guys like you can keep coping.

evs and ice are apples to oranges no comparison to a coyote , mopar , LS real man shit!

@omar4032 the kind of people that want an EV are the same people who buy prebuilt gaming PCs. They want to go fast with no effort or knowledge. Real "car guys" want to built something that is unique and has character. EV will never have soul.

AWD doesn't help much if you pull the fronts off the ground. Traction control and torque at zero rpm is where EVs shine and the Plaid shows that.

@@KZ-se4iktrackhawks would disagree

@@dnegel9546 again, if the fronts are in the air AWD ain't helping...

Plaid plus will be out by then.. the motors are already rated for 1500hp on the regular plaid it just needs the updated battery! Tesla pulled the plug on it because the regular plaid was fast enough! Now the competition is getting very close again

Gut the Plaid interior and run drag radials and what will it ET?

@@justme307 drag radials slow the plaid down on the big end. Take a few hundred pounds out of a plaid and they’re high 8s. Gutted completely, mid 8s

90k "grocery getter"

The salt

Nope lmao summer time fl humidity and da will kill that motor getting stuffed with up to 1.5bar of Heated boost! Even gulping e85 by the gallon! But the plaid won't care at all, cold, hot, high or low da, altitude, tires etc it just doesn't care! And multiple striped down but still st legal tesla plaids weighing about what this demon does have gone 8.7x already. 😎

@@Charlesbjtown yup summer of 2021 a woman driving a plaid got the first 9.0x slip. Even jay Leno did 9.2x in one in 2021. Multiple striped down plaids around what the demon 170 weighs also stripped, have gone 8.7x with different drivers on different tracks already. No chance a fully stock demon 170 even on a fully prepped track in negative da(Cecil county anyone? With a hot shoe does an 8.9x 😀 It's time tesla uncorked those c.f. beasts, Jay Leno learned they are limited in the semis using the same motor, but fully capable of 500+hp each. So a plaid with a better pack? Or say a max of 10s unlimited drag mode could be a 1,300-1,500hp rocket for 89k brand New. 😎

Heat soak will be terrible in the summer. He already had to cool the demon dowm after a couple passes.

Well said

It took longer but quite a few got to the 9.56 time and some even beat it. There's already at least one person that has hit the 8s with the 170. Not sure why the misinformation of the old Demon is still being discussed, even by experienced people, but at the end of their statement they do mention that they did eventually prove the old Demon was as fast as they advertised. No I do not have a Demon or even a Challenger or a Mopar.

@stevedevuono4115 Your last statement is proof that you only believe what u see. Demonology did everything under the sun to achieve those times and the time was 9.65 not 9.56 so if anyone on youtube achieve a 9.56 then it's was definitely not stock form or tune. Alot of guys get on here and tell lies I know that for a fact. Dodge used a lighter version demon the most sticky track and Leah Pritchett which is a light weight professional drag racer. I mean even knocking the tires off Racer X should have atleast seen 150mph trap speeds.

😂 man the cope is real. The Demon is using a "Transbrake" system (which is basically Computer dialed in Traction control) and an Automatic transmission. Racer is doing no actual shifting. Both are doing the same exact thing which is slam the pedal. The only difference is, the Challenger is RWD, and Tesla is AWD. having AWD means the tesla can use Torque vectoring to make up for wheel spin. There's plenty of AWD ice cars can that do the same thing. If computers bother you... then logically you would hate a non manual Mopar with computer guided launch assists

@@ragingtyga "blah blah blah, muh tesla is better, blah blah blah, african child slave labor batteries are moar better blah blah"

Dodge tears sure are salty 😂

@@Smasher-Devourer Most EV batteries are Cobalt free now. But I guess running on Saudi oil blood money is better than African Slave labor? 😂

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Do you even know what my background is.. lol? obviously not! Noone destroyed their car.. obviously very mislead

Everyone says track conditions, Maybe the demon 170 needs a better tire. Or suspension adjustment. Because this same thing has happened in multiple videos with the demon 170.

@shoalmighty334 You are lucky to be able to own one of those gorgeous beasts. I need better tires too. My Hellcat does well, at some tracks. Enjoy that Demon 170.