I think one of the few horse-esque qualities they kept for Bojack besides having to drink alot to get drunk is that horses have really strong back muscles so even if Bojack was out of shape his entire adult life he would still be stronger than a regular person by default, it also plays into the part where he breaks it in a stunt and gets hooked on pain killers, is a normal ocurrence that tamed and breeded horses for competitions get back problems and such
@@Shamkk Looking at a channel doesn’t mean I have to subscribe to it. You subscribe to every channel you check out? You have anime mumble rap, I would rather starve than to subscribe to you.
To answer Diane's question, I think a home is place where you can live and feel safe. And why so negative? A home can also be a place to cultivate and then repeat positive patterns!
This is me. My life can be shit, but I need have all things mine. I don't wanna help. This is why everything is sucks but I can't change. I can't trust someone and need help.
I know it's hard to accept help. You hate yourself for being a burden, and hate yourself even more for being unable to get by on your own. You feel like a failure, and the guilt of accepting any assistance can be overwhelming. But, it's ok to need help. It's ok to ask for help. And, it's ok to receive help. I know it's so so hard, but please, try to value yourself enough to say that you deserve to be ok, and that you need someone to help you out of a bad situation, because you DO deserve it. I know the saying "no man is an island" is cliche, but it's true. It's taken me nearly 40 years to finally be able to say that I'm worth being taken care of when I hit hard times. You are, too. 💜
I really like this scene bc it highlights what makes Diane so mad about the tape: "you tell me everything". She feels like she knows everything about bojack and feels like she NEEDS to know everything about bojack. She feels like she has him all figured out, so when bojack doesn't tell her about what happened in New Mexico, she feels completely thrown, because if she never knew about New Mexico, then what else has he been keeping from her? Not that it's her responsibility or even her business. EDIT: Ok I'm going to go into some clarification on this, since I'm still getting hate about this to this day. Obviously rereading it I can see where clarification is needed. First of all, I am NOT saying BoJack should get a free pass. I literally don't know where any of y'all got that from, because my initial comment was about DIANE and her fixation on BoJack. They literally address it in the show that she is so attached to him, and has a kind of obsession with knowing all of his business. Second of all, speaking as someone that has been sexually assaulted, everyone saying Diane deserved to know what happened in New Mexico should go back to clown school. Yes, BoJack did an awful thing, but that situation isn't just about him! It's also about Penny! Everyone thinks when someone is assaulted, they should immediately spread the news. "Look at this guy! He hurt this girl!" they'll yell. But they're missing the second half of that statement. Diane doesn't KNOW Penny. Random strangers knowing about an incredibly traumatic experience is a serious invasion of privacy and can cause even more trauma and stress to the victim. It can even cause serious paranoia about who knows you've been assaulted and who can tell. I can't tell you how many personal panic attacks I've had just walking down the street, making eye contact with one person and just getting the words "THEY KNOW" caught in my head until I'm shaking in a public bathroom stall. People always want the other person to pay, but more often than not, it puts the victim in the public eye, ESPECIALLY in BJ's case. No one asks what the victim wants done. People will either just jump immediately to either "He's an abuser, kill him!" or "He's innocent, let him be". No one asks the victim "What would you like to happen and are you okay? Would you like me to do something about this? How can I help?" I'm not saying "Protect BoJack's privacy", I'm saying "Protect PENNY'S privacy. She's 17 or 18 at this time in the show. Penny and her family dealt with it exactly how they wanted to. They sent BoJack away, Penny's in therapy, and they're trying to move on. If that's how they want to be, then let them, because it is nobody's business but Penny's. That is HER situation, not Diane's. All that said, here's some advice for anyone and everyone about how to help someone going through sexual harassment or assault: Literally just be on their side. Ask them "What do you want me to do?" A lot of people will want to keep quiet, because they don't think people will believe them, or because they don't want to be under scrutiny. Offer to support them and collaborate their story. Offer to go to file a complaint or stick with them when the police arrive if they're too anxious to do so by themselves.
TR S I think that’s the thing though. He doesn’t have to tell her everything and she blew everything out of proportion. BoJack obviously feels guilt for the years of trauma he’s probably endured and given to many people. He doesn’t feel comfortable admitting it himself yet, so why would he tell Diane?
He nearly took advantage of a 17 year old who according to the law where he actually lived could not consent You think it's the fact that he didn't tell her that's bad ?
Yeah, I agree with u. However, if bojack don't act like he wants Diane to care about his stuff like Beatrice's death, Diane probably just left all New Mexico thing behind her. Plus, I think what makes Diane exploded and make things too over is that bojack not only acts like he want to talk but also reject to her comfort again and again.
Can we talk about how she made him do what happened on the boat all over again, in a fucking TV show? We see that he was panicking the whole time, and after the shot he looks so hurt. He didn't want to tell Diane, I don't think he even was truly able to admit what he has really done on that prom night to himself(after Diane confronts him about it he tries to excuse himself) , telling all of this to a random lady he had sex with is something different than telling it to a friend that thinks she knows everything, and so much time had passed, him telling it to her in season 5 might've caused the same reaction. Making your friend go though doing one of the worst things he has ever done, and then watch him panic with a smile on your face? That is not okay. I know that he has pissed her of, because the whole therapist thing, and not telling her that he did that to Penny, (and I'm not even excusing bojack here, we all know how terrible it all was and I'm not trying to defend him) but that just isn't okay, and she needs to realise that, before she becomes an exact copy of bojack. (my comment may be a little off topic, but GOD I NEEDED to write it down since I was going crazy from not telling that to anyone)
@@a.4549 well, what Diane did in the tv show is not okay at all, but it's not just because she got mad. The main point here is that she cares about him. Bojack obviously needs someone to talk about everything( just like the therapist said, even more than Diane) and clearly Diane understands too. Yet bojack turns down the therapy just as he acts like he wants Diane to talk to him and shout at her when she really does. However, Diane has better choices to deal with it obviously, just like one-trick pony thing. She always somehow choose the worst way to handle things about bojack, leving him panicking.
Ahhh I remember my first apartment. Right by the industrial district.Right by the rail road tracks. Factories on every corner and a bunch of ratted out houses near by where factory workers lived with their families. There was a little hole in the wall bar right next to my apartment and a rag tag pizza joint below me. I lived on the upper floor of the pizza place. Owner let me live there for three hundred a month since I worked part time for him and did bar tending next door to the bar. It had the old brick walls and industrial stairs with a tiny kitchen stuffed in the corner by the door. Bedroom was made by throwing up ply wood to make a small square room with a sliding metal door! Rowdy bikers every night, chicks on the corners, railroad workers stopping in and factory workers playing the blues! When the trains went through it would rattle the windows. It wasnt much but it was home! It was the best five years of my life when I lived in that tiny apartment! I always came back to the old neighborhood! All the bikers knew me and the factory workers workers would tell me a story or two everytime I came back. Working at the bar and the pizza place was a blast! I miss those times.
@@linnycrocus6023 right? 🤣. That’s what one of my old apartments rents for now, despite renting for $250 per month when I lived there, and it was worse than OP’s.
Her tone in that last line really drives home how great the voice cast was for this. She knows it's terrible, but she's desperately trying to force herself to like it, and failing miserably. Alison Brie should NEVER have apologized for playing Diane. She knocked it out of the park with the character, and it pains me that people want her and other truly talented actors to hate themselves for accepting roles, aka earning their living. It's so senseless, it's VOICE ACTING, your race literally doesn't matter! Nothing does! Only the strength of your performance, and that's why it's so great.
How do white people manage to miss the point so bad about anything regarding race? Like seriously, what is the matter with you? Did you not read her post? Do you not see the landscape of the voice acting industry? Do you not understand how people feel unless they are white?
@@samiai8905 I feel u. Diane has a whole episode struggling with her Vietnamese American identity and they had a white women vovicing it. Tone deaf shit like that falls flat for white folks. They don’t see anything important or significant in her being Vietnamese American. Probably only other immigrants will truly understand.
@@comedychrises so none of those “rich white kids” have any talent of their own? It really does only come down to nepotism and how much money you have, with race not being much of a factor anymore. Those with natural talent and no money have very, VERY slim chances of making it in an unfair business that’s catered towards the rich and already famous.
You’d be surprised…She probably got a couple hundred thousand. But rent in LA is at least 2k a month. At least. So considering she wasn’t working and spent a lot of money trying to help Mr. PB she didn’t have a lot saved that wouldn’t put her in the zeros
Its weird watching a scene like this knowing how the series ends with Bojack’s relationships with Caroline and Diane finally coming to an end because he couldn’t change for the better and seeing this and being oh yeah there was a time when these two were very close actually. While BJ might have been the main character I think Diance was the protagonist.
@@grahamleupp8446 Thats so dumb. A big part of Diane's backstory is that such grew up so American that she doesn't even know any of her Vietnamese heritage. Why apologize?
We get it Bojack, you dont want Diane to have this life and you think she deserves better. But man, a little support doesnt hurt you know I love you, you old horse man, but jeez
Three sets of claw/scratch marks (two long, one short), a stain, and a face scribbled on it. One of my old apartments when I first moved into it had “I’ll see you in hell!” scrawled on the door in red paint…or at least I think/hope it was red paint.
Watching how Bojack is always talking shit about Diane makes my wonder why she's still friends with him. But at the same time they kinda seem like a good fit for each other cuz Bojack wants to be a good person and regrets life. And Diane is just feeling sad and alone and needs a friend even though her friend just criticizes her new lifestyle and trash talks about her ex.
Usually it the man that moves out of the house If Diane and MR.PB are still on good terms and both are working Couldnt they have worked something out better for Diane to live
KINGofkings49er Not on equal earning thresholds Hes been divorced before so he probably has some good prenup staff. She also is not a gold digger So what she will get from divorce is minimum, and best put away for actual emergencies. She was basically a nobody before she started dating him and then things went crazy with her life and they got married. She’s working, but shed not rich, she cant maintain the lifestyle Peanut Butter was used to so she wont be keeping the house even if it was offered.
@@m.ivyluna4632 im not going to bother reading this, it looks too long :P jk things do look bad for Diane I mean she still wearing the same clothes for season 1 hehe Sure Diane and Mr.PB will probably get back together, He did say he still had feelings for her while on a date with pickles.
woah man when they get drunk in this episode , fudge you can clearly see diane wanting to sleep with bojack and bojack wants but also he knows he likes/love so much that he is afraid to get that close and lose her or worst
Women have it easy. All she has to do is either tell Bojack she wants to live with him or tell Mr. Peanutbutter that she loves him again. Ahh.. Feminism
Um, have you not finished the entire season? Diane refuses to get back with Mr. PB because he refuses to grow up plus he'd already proposed to Pickles and Diane doesn't want to live with Bojack because she knows if she stays she'd only sink to his level. This isn't about femnism I don't know why you feel the need to bring that up because it's irrelevant to this...
I don't like Diane... she's also egotistical like bojack but an sjw version of Bojack. She has not realized that the reason she is sad and negative is because she is trying to be this sjw altruistic person while actually she is doing this to make herself look good and "not lose face." Also Mr. PB is not perfect but he was a good husband and she just disses him when PB made her the belle room. Instead of saying thanks and using the soft touch to express her concerns she just blasted at him for being "not considerate for her feelings." I feel Diane is also a bad person as she always judges people but does not take a moment to judge herself and when she does she blames it on her parents and past. Sound familiar? At least Bojack did move on 2nd half of 6th season until the greedy reporters made an exposee on him not for justice but for selfish reasons fame and money.
the belle room wasn't even filled with books! it was a pointless, vacant gesture with nothing inside of it, with no consideration for diane's actual wants and needs.
Mr. PB had a hard time listening to Diane while they were together. He always wanted to be loud and have big celebrations even though she expressed her discomfort for them multiple times, and he just didn't care. He's very immature and needs to grow up. They were just too incompatible.
