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DJI FPV or Analog? Pt2 Flywoo Explorer LR Flight Comparison Pilot Commentary 

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Part 2 of the split screen DJI FPV or Analog? Flywoo Explorer LR FPV comparison video with voice-over pilot commentary. Additional Explorer LR questions answered and BONUS Insta360 GO test footage at the end! Consider subscribing to the channel for FPV drone reviews, gear tests, flight edits, and more to come.

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@NoiseBoysGarage
@NoiseBoysGarage 3 года назад
I’m checking the mail every day for mine
@davehayes5766
@davehayes5766 3 года назад
Great videos mate. Ive got an analouge version on order! Subbed
@relentlessfpv1822
@relentlessfpv1822 3 года назад
Thank you for the awesome video! Subbed. Happy flying.
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
Regarding the bitrate on the DJI. Remember for those who have bought this version the kwad should fly much further than in this test and maintain a much better bitrate. The limiting factor here was the power lines. Still waiting for mine to arrive :-(
@gvanausdle
@gvanausdle 3 года назад
Thanks for showing the analog version. Any help setting that up would be great.
@michael3573
@michael3573 3 года назад
Thanks for the betafpv hd and insta360 go info.
@JG-mw8fm
@JG-mw8fm 3 года назад
Nice video 👌 Keep up the great work 👍 Stay safe✌
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 3 года назад
Danggg you got both?! Wild
@marklang7004
@marklang7004 3 года назад
Thank you for the video! Where is your video of setting up GPS recovery? Also your Insta360 Go, you can set up to 5 min FPV mode, and try Horizon Leveling (I believe that's what it's called). Locks the horizon level when you roll your Explorer.
@HolaACchillin
@HolaACchillin 3 года назад
Very cool🔥🔥🔥🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@jamiegerrard2129
@jamiegerrard2129 3 года назад
Nice work
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 3 года назад
Really informative 👍🤝😎
@CesiumSalami
@CesiumSalami 3 года назад
So weird that the image just shakes on the analog unit even when you're on the ground - i feel like i've seen this in other reviews. Are you running the Rapidfire in legacy mode? i swear i never see those full tears unless i'm in legacy mode. It's amazing how far you can go on 450mw, but dang, bumping up to 600 or 800 is still in the range that makes a difference i think :/
@FpvQuadFlyer
@FpvQuadFlyer 3 года назад
Great information! Keep the hard work 😓how the radio antenna is performing? I ordered the ORT version because I had 2 shorts Failsafe at 1.9 miles using a T style antenna.
@technoxtreme178
@technoxtreme178 3 года назад
would like to see a direct comparison on the freestyle of the versions; in particular, how they handle and how the weight affects your ability to do mild power loops, rolls, etc.
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
Check out Andy RC latest video regarding the flywoo
@crj06121995
@crj06121995 Год назад
Awesome video! I just got one with TBS and the flywoo explorer li-ion pac, wondering how far out I'll be able to push :)
@GregPless
@GregPless 3 года назад
It would be great to see a list of the gear used and links. Thx
@juneloko619
@juneloko619 3 года назад
Liked and subbed
@timothystark4475
@timothystark4475 3 года назад
I like better DJI systems than analog systems because they have more advantages like holding FCC IDs (not requires HAM license), higher resolution, etc.
@lovedr1211
@lovedr1211 3 года назад
Still waiting for mine. But thease videos help me so when it does come I will go back over thease videos to set it up
@dreswan1
@dreswan1 3 года назад
jason ensinger got it yet?
@lovedr1211
@lovedr1211 3 года назад
@@dreswan1 no it was taking to long so i got refund and will waite till they are in stock to get one
@dreswan1
@dreswan1 3 года назад
jason ensinger Thank you!
@jonestown1978
@jonestown1978 3 года назад
Can’t wait for mine to arrive. I would really love to see how to set the gps properly. I ordered the dji version. I don’t want to loose video 2 miles out then I’m out of a quad. I have a lot of 850 4s so I’m good but did order some Auline 2000mah lion pack 30c. Love to see how long it will fly on that one. Great videos very informative But also jealous that you have one already.
@michael3573
@michael3573 3 года назад
Joshua Bardwell has a good gps Betaflight setup video if you search youtube.
@ndudman8
@ndudman8 3 года назад
for long range is lion better at 3S... or is that 2000mah lion pack a 4S ? Thanks... my DJI v is on way... :)
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 3 года назад
@@ndudman8 watch some videos from Dave C FPV or check the facebook group for the microlongrange design (by Dave C FPV)
@peterzingler6221
@peterzingler6221 3 года назад
2000mah lion? And 30 c. Surely not
@ndudman8
@ndudman8 3 года назад
@@peterzingler6221 why not ? :) Isn't 3 S ok for just crusing ? Thats what I was trying to understand.
@FerralVideo
@FerralVideo 2 года назад
Thanks so much for this. Nobody talks about the analog version... There is a V2 of these. Both get upgraded GPS modules. The analog version gets a bigger VTX (850mW), and there are reports that it has a barometer now. DJI gets an F7 flight controller to get the OSD onto a hardware UART, to address the OSD dropout complaints, and has a known barometer.
@boom7837
@boom7837 Год назад
Ye I bought the analog version too because I don’t have dji. I got the v2 version too buy mines still in the mail. Also notice with the analog he maintaine 9 sats whereas the dji only got 6 prob due to electrical noise but it’s pretty importsnt
@srqcrna
@srqcrna 3 года назад
I can't get used to analog breakup, I have tried but I started with DJI air units from the get. I actually started building analog drones for the cost and weight savings but once you see digital you really can't go back.
@robertobiasetti6091
@robertobiasetti6091 3 года назад
Hi, im a beginner pilot and not so techical yet, love both of them,but im confused and dont want to regret in future. i pefer long range but want to try too keep under 250grams that i think its impossibile, but i do love the dji fpv quality. whats your advice. thank you very much and like the way you explain on You Tube. keep up the good work !!!!!
@natec7398
@natec7398 3 года назад
Very nice break down.. I'm torn haha, I was hoping you could point me in the right direction. I have both DJI goggles and controller. Could I get a way with pnp version and just use the dji controller and still get decent range with that longer antenna? Or would you strongly recommend to use the crossfire version with the dji goggles. Thanks as I am a noob to long range
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Great question. I have been testing DJI 5.8ghz radio control link with DJI remote alone and yes, you can get good mid-range reception of up to about 1 mile, however the link is much more susceptible to interference compared to a 915mhz control link like R9 or CRSF or even newer 2.4ghz links like IRC Ghost. With GPS rescue properly setup I have no reservations about flying mid-range, knowing that a fail safe is possible which will activate RTH. All that being said the current DJI FPV remote is over priced at $299. A new DJI remote is coming soon which will likely have 2.4ghz control with better range in a gamepad style for factor. If you are new to FPV then yes, I can recommend the DJI remote for ease of use, great battery life, seamless integration, with some reduced range compared to OpenTX 2.4ghz and 915mhz options.
@DronemanfromNepal
@DronemanfromNepal 3 года назад
Gps rescue mode tutorial please ! Thnx
@techyg-quads6350
@techyg-quads6350 3 года назад
Wouldn't better patch antennas on the DJI goggle allow longer range (I think they advertise up to 4km)? With a similar patch setup as what you had on the fatsharks, and lowest bitrate setting/max power I would think you could get just as good or possibly better with the DJI unit. I know someone else mentioned power lines contributing to the range issue.
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
The TrueRC X-Air 5.8 LHCP Patch system for DJI is measured at 10 dBic and the ImmersionRC SpiroNet LZR RHCP Patch 5.8 system for FatShark is measured at 13 dBic. So these are two of the highest gain antennas available respectively.
@321RCHeli
@321RCHeli 3 года назад
Nice vid. You prefer 4S over 3S, but on what kV motors?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
All test flights have been on the stock 1404 2750kv motors. Other motor and frame setups will be tested on the channel soon!
@lw8249
@lw8249 3 года назад
Which have a better signal range in analogue, the classical Fatshark goggles or the DJI with analog adapter with rapid-fire/fusion?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
FatShark HDO2 goggles with RapidFire + ImmersionRC SpiroNet LZR Dual 13db patch antenna system is better than TBS Fusion analog adapter with DJI goggles.
@sparkey044
@sparkey044 3 года назад
Seems it's going to be a while before thy have them back in stock. They aren't answering emails.
@carlosfuhrer
@carlosfuhrer 3 года назад
would you recommend the caddx tarsier version of this drone? Greetings from Colombia
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
I would not. If you want to purchase the analog 5.8ghz Explorer LR I would suggest you purchase the base runcam nano2 analog Explorer LR model and delay your HD cam addition decision until you receive your drone and have browsed other HD cam options which are available when you are ready (naked GoPro, Insta360 GO, or yes a split style HD cam). You can always easily buy and add a Caddx Tarsier 4k cam later if you decide. Just my $0.02
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
@@m2kfpv449 good advice
@lockingpaul
@lockingpaul 3 года назад
Seen a few videos about the vtx and gps problems is that a thing of the past or has flywoo fixed that?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Flywoo has addressed most of the issues in their newest v2 F7 edition of the Explorer LR. But other issues have been found including incorrect/mismatched antenna polarization and they dropped the Tarsier 4K model from the Explorer line altogether. Still a good quad for the price.
@lockingpaul
@lockingpaul 3 года назад
I’m still a freshie! Bout three summer months last year three spring and indoor over winter. This will be my first summer full on fpv. So pumped just kinda trying to learn as much as possible from dudes like urself before making purchases. Kinda burned a bunch of money last year learning what not to buy. So ya appreciate the feed back. And a keep up the good work eh.🤙🏼
@MrDirrrty
@MrDirrrty 3 года назад
Do all of these 4" long range quads get shakes in the footage?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Hi Alex. Short answer is yes, all of these 4 inch micro long range models suffer from thin light frames with relatively low power motors which cause them to shake with winds above about 15-20 mph. I have found some frame designs which use a single solid base plate like the iFlight Chimera4 and Airblade Transformer Mini show less shaking but are still pushed around by moderate wind. Flywoo Explorer LR also includes optional arm braces which help marginally. Stabilized gopro or insta360 footage usually handles the shakes well enough.
@dpkgray
@dpkgray 3 года назад
I am buying the analog version, though I already own the dji system and have a vista module though it is something else right now. Do you think the analog version can be upgraded easily to a dji version if I decide to go that route in the future? Thanks for the informative video.
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Yes, the rear of the frame has standard 20x20 mount for Caddx Vista/Nebula or analog vtx. I think you have a good plan!
@dpkgray
@dpkgray 3 года назад
M2K FPV thank you, I am looking forward to my Flywoo's arrival and also more interesting videos from your channel.
@Jpilgrim30
@Jpilgrim30 3 года назад
I just ordered a v2. I think I’m going to take the 5.8 vtx off and replace it with a 800 mw furious fpv 2.4 GHz vtx. With 2.4 video, ground station, and li-ion it could be a true long range flyer.
@Andrei92ify
@Andrei92ify 3 года назад
Hello, this is a little bit off topic, i want to start fpv so i want to buy, flywoo explorer. So far so good the thing is I can choose from 3 recivers and i have no idea what to choose . I have a flysky fs-i6 transmitter if this help somehow ... Thank you in advance!
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Hi Andrei. Welcome to FPV! Flywoo Explorer LR is a great drone to start with. Unfortunately, none of the receivers offered in a BNF from Flywoo are compatible with your FlySky FS-i6 radio remote. You have two options. You could buy a XM+ version of the Flywoo Explorer and desolder the FrSky XM+ receiver and replace with a FlySky receiver like the FS-X8B then change Betaflight settings to iBus. Or you can purchase a different radio remote like the Radiomaster T16S, FrSky X9 Lite, or TBS Tango 2 which are compatible with Explorer BNF versions. If you are wanting to fly longer range (over 2km) the I would strongly suggest replacing your radio remote to a newer FrSky, Radiomaster/Jumper multi-protocol model, or TBS Tango 2 radio.
@Andrei92ify
@Andrei92ify 3 года назад
@@m2kfpv449 thank you for reply, most likely I'll buy radiomaster or the frsky. This fpv world is a little bit confusing with all the new terms.
@stefffpv
@stefffpv 2 года назад
Can I fit the orginal dji cam and air unit into this one?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 2 года назад
Yes for the dji cam and unfortunately no on the full air unit. Few 4inch frames accommodate the full dji air unit module. CycloneFPV had the Quattro HD with the air unit module in the rear on its side with the memory card slot facing up.
@choppergirl
@choppergirl 3 года назад
Good lord, if you dont have to dont fly over water lol. If it goes down... it's like a brick and sinks like a rock. I build my own Liions for my Flywoo, but I like the Ovonic brand. Building a 6s pack is a royal PITA but 3s half as bad. i solder mine together using flat braided solder wick wire. I use the Axii duo antennas on DJI goggles. Thinking Ill upgrade from Crossfire micro v1 250mw to Lite 2watt on the TX16s. Maybe someday a nano diversity on the quad. fpv.air-war.org6
@colinhealey6244
@colinhealey6244 3 года назад
Any noticeable improvement with the DJI shield antennae?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Apologies, if you are asking about the TrueRC X2Air directional patch antennas on the DJI goggles, then yes I have found these DJI goggles antennas to be the best for maintaining mbps DJI transmission.
@kwadkrazy6078
@kwadkrazy6078 3 года назад
Was this (the analog test) on R9 or Crossfire?
@kwadkrazy6078
@kwadkrazy6078 3 года назад
My bad, I should've just watched the video, you mentioned R9. Apologies.
@NukularPower
@NukularPower 3 года назад
Ugh, you have 2 of these and I can't even get 1 (still waiting after order on 8-16 :( )
@SolidousMdz
@SolidousMdz 3 года назад
Same, Flywoo is doing such bad job with the shipping, something is going on there.
@sheldonsaintstudio
@sheldonsaintstudio 3 года назад
My allow arming without fix tap is not showing up in betaflight.
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
You need to update Betaflight firmware to 4.2 and enable expert mode then go to Failsafe tab.
@sheldonsaintstudio
@sheldonsaintstudio 3 года назад
@@m2kfpv449 will do. Thanks.
@artie782
@artie782 3 года назад
so the flywoo with the caddix has no home pointing arrow for return besides GP.
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Caddx Vista unit displays some OSD elements including home direction pointer when you enable Custom OSD option on DJI goggles but not all of the available elements in an OSD like you get with Betaflight. Home point direction element does not show on DJI goggles OSD until GPS has acquired minimum satellites.
@artie782
@artie782 3 года назад
M2K FPV thanks. For info
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
Could you please tell me how the vista connects to the FC? I'm adding one to my analogue and have no idea where to put the Rx and TX wires from the vista?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
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@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
@@m2kfpv449 thanks... However theirs nothing their that shows wher the vista Rx and TX go?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
says UART 1 tx1/rx1 on stack wiring diagram
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
or UART2 if not using DJI tx sbus protocol but lose vtx smart audio control
@gmivisualsjason3729
@gmivisualsjason3729 3 года назад
@@m2kfpv449 UART 1 is taken with the crossfire wires. UART two is taken with the GPS. So the vista is using a softserial. But I've no idea where it's wires go?
@Troublesolver
@Troublesolver 3 года назад
looks like you are playing the recording from the air unit not the dvr on the dji goggles. I have dji and this doesnt look like the goggle dvr at all.
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
Explorer LR uses Caddx Vista system, which has no on-board dvr capabilities, and not the DJI FPV Air unit which does. All video recording is directly from DJI goggles on this unit.
@McS1110
@McS1110 3 года назад
Nice video,Is there any way we can contact you to do some product reviews?
@m2kfpv449
@m2kfpv449 3 года назад
m2kfpv@gmail.com
@RGMGFitness
@RGMGFitness 3 года назад
Yikes! That's to many power lines for me!
@FlyingPhilUK
@FlyingPhilUK 3 года назад
50Mbits / sec
@Vincious
@Vincious 3 года назад
I have insta360 go, as a vlogger, the clips from insta360 go always ruin my video. And I watched some people fly the flywoo explorer with “go”, I don’t see it gets any better video than the 1080dji camera, both are crap. Why is everyone going for insta360 go? Great video anyway, thank you very much
@melvinfinner4606
@melvinfinner4606 3 года назад
I think its because of weight purposes. Isn't this the smallest and lightest camera go pro make?
@Vincious
@Vincious 3 года назад
@@melvinfinner4606 but the quality is as same as the digital fpv cam, why people put an extra camera to record the same quality of video that the stock already can do?
@melvinfinner4606
@melvinfinner4606 3 года назад
@@Vincious Yea well in that case you got a good point. Maybe they just want footage from another point of view or something idk 🤷‍♂️....Lol.... I'm new to the fpv world and fairly new to drones period (4mths) but I learned a lot in the last 2 weeks since I've gotten interested in the fpv stuff. I have a zino pro camera drone and now a tinyhawk 2 freestyle that I'm learning fpv with. I'm really interested in this flywoo explorer next. But I got a long way to go learning wise I think.
@Vincious
@Vincious 3 года назад
MELVIN FINNER I’m new to fpv too, just got my dji controller and goggles last week at now on simulator for 4 days, getting good progression now. Few hours ago just placed order on this flywoo explorer. Me too this two weeks learned a lot about fpv, but as a full time youtuber for already few years, I know cameras, insta360 go really sucks, the worst 1080p I’ve ever see.
@melvinfinner4606
@melvinfinner4606 3 года назад
@@Vincious Thats cool What! I thought about doing the simulator but Ilk have to buy a controller just for that. Because i want the DJI setup as well when I buy the explorer drone next and im not ready to buy that right now. What cameras are small enough to fit on there and have great quality?
@dcliffe8539
@dcliffe8539 3 года назад
the analogue camera looks too dark
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