idle time on the ground is a real problem... the newer versions of this quad with HD systems will overheat long before they acquire satellite lock. shielding those wires helps, but the new HD systems also make WAY more interference than a analog vtx.
Hi! This video is very helpful! Liked & subbed the channel. I just got my analog BNF LF Explorer with Goku HM850 VTX. It worked well inside my house, but after the 1st flight and after some snow (very little snow) got into the elctronics, the VTX emitted magic smoke. After drying the drone up and replugging a battery there was more smoke. The VTX is fried, some components even repositioned themselves on the board. I reached out to support, we'll see what they say. I am afraid I will have to replace the VTX anyways...
I would love to know the max range of this Crossfire setup. I just ordered a flywoo explorer with it and would love to get a couple miles out. But I think without an elevated transmitting point I'll be limited.
Interesting. I use this LR4 v2's f745 nano flight controller with my 250 sized helicopter because f745 has a S5 signal for the tail motor. I see many videos talking about GPS problem, but my GPS is mounted up high at the rotor swash plate level on top of my cyclic servos. My GPS always locks in a few seconds. Spacing is my advantage.
You need to go to the Ports tab in BF Configurator software and select the correct vtx protocol on the correct UART for your vtx. Then you will need to load the correct vtx table with power outputs and bands/channels. Start here: oscarliang.com/vtx-control/#betaflight-setup or if this doesn’t make sense to you, you can try pasting the correct CLI dump from the manufacturer’s website which should have these pre-selected correctly.
Flywoo released a v2 that claims upgraded GPS and VTX units. The analog variant also only includes a Caddx Baby Ratel when direct from Flywoo, you can't get it with a split camera stock. Are these worth considering or should I stay very far away unless I really don't like money? I'm seeing comments that claim these may be miswired and blow up on first power if you don't go over them carefully. I don't have a DJI goggles and cannot afford one, so am only interested in the analog variant.
Explorer LR v2 addresses many of the issues found in v1 including the analog vtx which was upgraded. If you can get one with the v2 gps module and vtx and I think they even have an F7 FC version, then yes its on the approved buy list! Still a great all around model.
Thanks so much for this. Nobody talks about the analog version... There is a V2 of these. Both get upgraded GPS modules. The analog version gets a bigger VTX (850mW), and there are reports that it has a barometer now. DJI gets an F7 flight controller to get the OSD onto a hardware UART, to address the OSD dropout complaints, and has a known barometer.
Ye I bought the analog version too because I don’t have dji. I got the v2 version too buy mines still in the mail. Also notice with the analog he maintaine 9 sats whereas the dji only got 6 prob due to electrical noise but it’s pretty importsnt
I already have 4s, 6s, and 1s packs... I didnt' even want that many... and now thanks to this stvpid quad I have bloody 3s packs.... Worse, now I have to deal with XT30 connectors and support them for everything... which I didn't have to do before as I had standarized on XT60s. I just got a bag of them in the mail today. I'm tempted to just cut off the XT30's instead and put on XT60's ont he Explorer and it's battery packs. Guess which socket all five of my battery chargers use... and all my other equipment...
Yes for the dji cam and unfortunately no on the full air unit. Few 4inch frames accommodate the full dji air unit module. CycloneFPV had the Quattro HD with the air unit module in the rear on its side with the memory card slot facing up.
Would you recommend the same spec for the Rekon 4 FR with 1804 3500kv motors? I have been enjoying tattu 850 4s r-line the most for freestyle, and ~17 minutes of exploring with vtc6 4s.
Perfect. The Rekon 4 FR is for freestyle typically and needs a higher C-rated lipo. Tatu R-line or newer GNB 850mAh 4S xt30 are great. These 1100mAh long range won’t produce any extended flight times when put under that kind of stress and won’t give the right punch and sag.
People tell you if you can't or don't want to solder just buy a BNF. Then your un into this kind of hell in this video right off the bat out of the box. I sold all my RC hobby lies on ebay, and now just fly the sim stress free. Can you imagine if you just bought a bought new car and had to do this kind of diagnosis and hardware teardown as soon as you got it home? You'd take it straight back to the dealership and demand your money back. A lot of us can't do all that stuff you show in the video because we're just not that adept at working with little unlabeled fiddly bit stuff. It's all Greek to us, like you taking apart a microwave and trying to figure out how it works. Just draw a blank. So this stuff ends up in a tub of junk electronics in the closet never to be used again and you're out liek a lot of money. I can't work with this kind of stuff any more, it makes me very upset.
I have an LR4 and have it flying good, but out of the box it was crap! If you were lucky enough to get lock, it took 5 minutes of letting it sit and overheating the vtx. I designed an extended mount and installed a new Maytek antenna as well as other mods to get it to work and now it locks in less than a minute. The fact that diatone had the gps disabled out of the box and the vtx locked at 25mw says a lot!
Most of the V1 4inch models (Explorer LR, F4 LR, Chimera 4, etc.) used the smallest cheapest gps antenna modules with little to no wire shielding. I have found shielding the gps cable with copper foil tape or other RF shielding mitigates enough of the interferences to get gps lock within a minute or two and maintain satellites with the vtx at full power output. Diatone also released a separate 2 pack of shielded gps cables that replace the originals: www.diatone.us/products/diatone-gps-4pin-shielding-harness-110mm-for-roma-f4-l3-2-pcs?variant=32454021480535&gclid=CjwKCAjwn8SLBhAyEiwAHNTJbTBDl0MvY6s131I1sfr_Yrje8wpcZvw1WQ9IqS-Fhkesr97DYAfJ0xoCdJgQAvD_BwE
@@m2kfpv449 I did shield the wires and also extended the antenna around an inch to the rear of the quad. I moved the Crossfire antenna to the front to try and mitigate as much electrical interference as possible I also installed a $35.00 Matek antenna with compass and reduced the number of satellites to 5 for a lock. It now locks in less than a minute and everything seems to work fine. My biggest gripe is that these things are not done by the manufacturer before selling these. I did try a Flywoo long range before this one and it had to sit so long that the VTX overheated and burned up!
If I buy one now has there been any update changes modifications or are they still the same thing and I'll have to do these upgrades when I get mine Since it's been 10 months ago just wondering if there's been any changes
I just ordered a v2. I think I’m going to take the 5.8 vtx off and replace it with a 800 mw furious fpv 2.4 GHz vtx. With 2.4 video, ground station, and li-ion it could be a true long range flyer.
FatShark HDO2 goggles with RapidFire + ImmersionRC SpiroNet LZR Dual 13db patch antenna system is better than TBS Fusion analog adapter with DJI goggles.
Great flight. I finally got the Flywoo explorer all working. I pretty much ended up with the v2 and it flies great. I since purchased the hexplorer and the rekon 5. For some reason I can fly further w the 600 mw on both Flywoo drones than the rekon 5s 800mw so I look forward the the antenna reviews as well as the Darwin.
How do you like your Rekon5? I was tempted to build one but have heard lots of people getting vibrations in the frame and therefore jello in the DJI and HD cams.
@@m2kfpv449 I mostly love it though I have the analog version. It's a snappy drone compared to the Flywoo,s. I havnt tried a camera on it as I'm trying to sort out why the vtx doesnt get the distance. I'm concidering the rekon 4. But it has the same vtx so I don't know.
@@gvanausdle You might find the Rekon4 to be too similar to your Flywoo Explorer. Consider the iFlight Chimera4 which has a 800mw vtx, X arm configuration, and available 3800kv bnf motor option.
I twisted then used Faraday tape to shield the gps cable. Another good less expensive option is to use copper foil tape depending on its proximity to other components. Diatone even released their own shielded gps cable as a direct replacement here: www.racedayquads.com/products/diatone-shielded-gps-wiring-harness-for-roma-l3-f4-2-pack?currency=USD&variant=32294554370161&gclid=CjwKCAjwn6GGBhADEiwAruUcKo0NueNb5XbftoWFogRx-h6gWHI8Cg0sCJ3HhCat0Xbt7Wq9rtWm_xoCfrEQAvD_BwE
I just wanted to post big THANK YOU for helping me to solve my GPS long fix issue. On my HGLRC m80pro on iflight Nazgul5 it took 4 min to get a fix with max of 5 sats. Inspired by your movie, I have used heatshrink to isolate wires from fc to gps. GPS fix now takes 20sec with 12 sats! I owe you one! PS I also have flywoo explorer v2 and they got the vtx and gps fixed (fix in less than 1 min)
Why is the GPS moved to the strap? I was thinking of putting a Tarsier on a standard analogue model - will that be straightforward or will I need to make adjustments like rewire the GPS?
Flywoo uses a battery strap mounted GPS in an effort to reduce the RF interference coming from the Tarsier camera, vtx, and rx. Tarsier has been measured to emit a frequency near 1ghz which can affect gps signal acquisition. Unfortunately, the moving the gps module to the battery strap does little to fix the poor gps reception on the Flywoo Explorer LR. If you want to add a Tarsier cam to your Flywoo Explorer, I suggest moving the gps to the rear of the frame, twisting and shielding the gps cable to the fc with copper tape or other rf shielding material, and using a micro USB battery bank in the field to pre-power the gps module for a few minutes of satellite acquisition before plugging in a lipo.
I am new to gps modules on quads- just got got my first one in my new recon 5 hd. I have read somewhere that it is useful to plug into a USB battery pack on your way to fly so the GPS will have a lock by the time you get to the flying site. Then you aren't using any of your lipo voltage to acquire the satellites.
I first shielded my wires helped a lil. Also kept cell phone and gopro away till got gps. Then I upgraded to gps v2 and upgraded camera and vtx to ratel 2 and lumineer 800mw
@@kudzy11 Did you buy it from RDQ? Thats where I bought mine from and after explaining my problem to them they returned it and gave me a refund in store credit.
@@Norvell07 no, I bought it direct from flywoo. The customer service and whatsapp messages to keep me informed of what was happening with the 2nd attempted delivery were spot on, , it's just this now. It doesnt fill me with confidence to fly it tbh.
Flywoo has addressed most of the issues in their newest v2 F7 edition of the Explorer LR. But other issues have been found including incorrect/mismatched antenna polarization and they dropped the Tarsier 4K model from the Explorer line altogether. Still a good quad for the price.
I’m still a freshie! Bout three summer months last year three spring and indoor over winter. This will be my first summer full on fpv. So pumped just kinda trying to learn as much as possible from dudes like urself before making purchases. Kinda burned a bunch of money last year learning what not to buy. So ya appreciate the feed back. And a keep up the good work eh.🤙🏼
Hey Thank you for posting the video. Pretty awesome it is. Just picked one of these and would appreciate if you can share some build pictures and suggestions on how you installed the gear. Thank you in advance.
Hey M2k, what's going on my friend? I just purchased the Flywoo Explorer LR Anolog, and I would like to know what receivers are you using in these models? I want to use something other than the crossfire...Thank you so much in advance and keep these builds, replacements and repair videos coming. Great content with easy and to the point info! 🖐️😎👍🌍
Best RX for long range outside of CRSF is FrSky R9 900mhz ACCESS or IRC Ghost 2.4ghz. Most R9 ACCST and ACCESS receivers are great with current FLEX firmware when matched with TX firmware. I like the R9MM and Slim+ receivers running ACCESS FLEX firmware. IRC Ghost is new and versatile with good observed long range performance. Coming up is ELRS, an open source firmware that can be flashed to R9 and Ghost receivers with reduced latency and higher outputs but flash rx and tx is stil not ready for the masses.
Hi, Would you be able to draw or take pictures of the connections to the tramp nano vtx to the flywoo explorer lr analog version 2. I have a run cam split 2 as a camera but I'm kinda confused on the vtx to fc wiring...? Anything helps please thank you in advance...
