Scarlet Witch VS Doctor Fate - Who Will Win? | MCU vs DCEU | BATTLE ARENA 

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He was nerfed down big time for black adam. While Ken Nelson isn't stronger than Wanda Nabo definitely is.

@@lukeliederbach7623 yea but all movie characters are nerfed big time

@@rae5057 facts thor is badly nerfed

@@rae5057 bro Dr fate is probably along with superman the most heavily nerfed character lol Dr fate in comic can toe to toe with Dr Manhattan Same thing goes with superman and we all know Manhattan is the best matter manipulation and magic user?

@@lukeliederbach7623 and thats not fair since u bring in naboo why not bring in kthon ? so kthon vs naboo

Fax

Wanda stompsss

Wanda Stan

wanda loses to strange dr fate can beat hoth

If I'm not mistaken comic book version it's just how many different ways can he destroy her

Comics, dr fate wins mid diff imo and I like Scarlet Witch in the comics too she’s strong but dr fate scales off against spectre

@@ahamiltonkyurem3400 why r u even talking about comics? afraid to lose ur fav hero?

@@theiwasnotgonnaman5160 no and plus not my favorite that goes to the punisher

@@jurassicsafari2826 I would keep arguing with you but it's a waste of energy but for the record you started this I'm ending it ending communication

He got disrespected in the black Adam movie lol

I wanna see Wanda VS Kang, and both all out, cuz Kang and Wanda never truely all out in the film as we see of yet.

@@NYUSmanChannelkang would never like to fight wanda as he’s scared of sw in comics

That only applies to witches

Affects witchcraft only seen it hurt those types

​@@patricktyler4712it affects to the sorcerers too

wont work on dr fate

MCU stans need to calm down, Dr. Fate is quite literally a God in the DC universe where the power scale is quite different. Yes she is powerful beyond most, but Nabu is a being beyond most mortal comprehension. I would tell you to go watch the death battle videos featuring both Dr fate and scarlet witch as they do a great job comparing their skills and abilities BTW Zatanna beats scarlet witch and Dr. Fate is much more powerful that that

If we are referring directly to movies, then yes scarlet witch has been seen to be most powerful

@@videowatcher7500 ok Wanda losing to Zatana is just a flaw because zatana needs to speak to use her magic and wanda can just make her mouth disappear like she did with black bolt ,and their powers are different in so many ways , there is no way that Zatana her magician magic can keep up with witchery magic. point made

bro do some research or read a comic dr fate is a god compared to anyone in the advengers and the mcu

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Scarlet can enslave the multiverse no comparison she 1 shots zero power she literally had strange who is a universal plus sorcerer running for his life bro tf is fate gonna do

@@lra8068These fans are so simplist that they can even make their own favorite hero very simplist too.

@@too_official6194Sources; voices of my mind.

I don't think he takes viewer requests lol although those are interesting matchups

agreed but his power of glimpses of the future is basically useless when he are in battle with SW because SW have probability hex power which does change "reality" or basically like good luck and unlucky. her power could change future which cause Fate cant predict the future because she can change it immediately.

I think his foreseeing power might be skewed when it comes to Wanda, because her Chaos magic and Nexus status basically disturbs the natural flow of order in the universe, so just like how Kang, in the comics, can't predict Wanda's timeline or future, I doubt Dr. Fate can either.

​@@xiamariansupreme72yeah esp all the probabilities are on her side nulling fate's future visions, for lack of a better term.

I agree but thats only if she knew, if she thought it was just apart of his hero costume she would just fight him normally

I doubt if she can evaporate something as old as time. Whose original owner is beyond her scope and scale arguably above the source of her powers. If that will even work the helmet will always come back again. If not instantaneous

@@richmanezihuo7214 If she can rip apart Thanos’s armor and sword BEFORE she became the Scarlet Witch I don’t see her having much of a problem destroying the helmet. At the very least she will definitely remove the helmet and send it to another dimension and guard it with a dream walking variant of her and a demon.

@@frankbradley4487 that's all conjecture anyway, since we would never know how much her potential can take her to atm. But from all that's been said and written that helmet is controlled by an elder magic wielder -- a lord of order. I think even if she can send it to another dimension, which can still be argued .. she will find it hard to keep it there because the helmet has a mind of its own. And from comic it has been shown to fly beyond light speed back to the owner. It even achieved "The Velocity of God" that means God speed. So it will definitely comeback instantaneously. Again, in BA the helmet worked independently and helped Hawkman overpower a six hell demon empowered Sabbac who had just overpowered BA. So it will most likely be her fighting Nabu himself. And if u think Thanos armour and sword is as strong as something that has be around since eons and controlled by a lord of order... Then there is no point for me to argue.

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True, but I’m so annoyed why they nerfed Dr. Fate soooooooooooooooooooo much in Black Adam, compared to the comics.

@@schiller_scamp everybody is nerfed even Wanda got a power boost but she’s still nerfed

@@too_official6194 true

More like neg diff

Not underestimating, it's like a oil truck vs a train, the truck is big but the train is just bigger

not to mention she can create some type of energy shield that could with stand sorcery magic and energy lazers

Superman easy

@@chricky119 I thought the same thing, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong

I want Wanda to win and she is powerful enough, but she is to unstable in my opinion. Fate is like Wanda in a way, but move ordered and less chaotic.

@@Justaguywithfax fate is a guy with literally no big feat like Wanda in her unstable form. Even in that unstable form she took down the entire force of kamar taj and doctor strange with literally no difficulties, she took down the Illuminati who stop Thanos from snapping something our main heroes didn’t do and she did it by herself. Dr. Fate ain’t beating a nexus being.

@@garymcguire9006 yeah. But I think Wanda was more in control she would be stomping on fate, since she is just throwing everything at him without know what to throw, but if she knew what she was doing and how to do it, she would crush him

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In comics Fate is insanely more powerful than his film version..he would beat Scatlet Witch 10 /10..

Yes, Nexus beings power's are not limited to one universe like other characters, one Nexus being is enough to effect all universes scarlet witch literally destroyed darkhold in every universe across the multiverse

@@hela5523 exactly. And still capable of so much more.

@@hela5523 rocks fell on her and she died. Enough said lol

@@spectrexr1 Se tanked a punch that can break a barrier between universe, what make you think some rocks would able to kill her ? weak logic lmao

@@Vincesjones she didn't open a portal she just punched her. Stop it. She can tank that punch but was limping and bleeding chasing them earlier. Get outta here .which is it. She durable to take those punches or not. Cause instead of tanking cap marvel punches and energy beams she just absorb her power. If she suck a powerhouse why she didn't just over power her... Because she couldn't. So she absorb her power. She physical power isn't that strong . She not Superman hawkman level durability. It's just bad writing in that movie

Fate fought sabbac thanos would die from sabbac and black Adam 😂🤣

@@123bboymeandyou good Joke Sabacc isn't that Impressive Thanos definitely beats him and BA the JSA etc...Wanda is well beyond them all

@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester thanos can’t even do what black Adam or sabbac can do, Wanda gets speed blitz either way thanos ain’t damaging or even swing black Adam move neither is Wanda don’t start this debate dceu is way faster and stronger than mcu

@@johnwick2418 movies tho

@gabemark8662 prove me wrong

“MARVEL IS WAY TOO STRONG” 🤓

@@lra8068 🤐

@@lra8068 Stay mad

@@lra8068 don't bother he can't be reasoned with

yea read the comic about wanda egoc and tell me who win

Go read egoc comic and nrxt talk bro She beat toaa dr fate just an joke to her

@@mole_rat8596 - What is Egoc?

@@matthewschwartz6607 go read comic of omega darkhold... She beat toaa (the most powerful mcu character in all times) in this comics and she is the best magicer

@Tech Noir Spider-man go read omega dakhold bro next talk i read it and idk how u say that

Rip Wanda still human 🤣

@@aponghomlet4777 so is fate.its true he ain't surviving shit

Dead wanda hahahahaha now in multiverse of madness she dead in ending

​@@aponghomlet4777 slap your mouth

Exactly, that’s like putting a WWE wrestler against a toddler.

It’s a video…….

@@ToddyX32 no its a helicopter lol

@@grudgematch6653 true that

Bruh, she might compete witg Kang, a little bit.

and when she was talking with Dr. Strange she also turned a beautiful cherry blossom forest into a sort of dead apocalyptic grave yard.

No it does Amp you a lot.

@jumbo not really. It is a component in certain rituals (ie. Dreamwalking) but is otherwise merely a corrupting influence and a near infinite knowledge source. It presents information to the weilder tailored to their own capabilities. For example, AIDA in Agents of SHIELD reads it in computer language, 1s and 0s, and it teaches her how to construct a digital framework alternate reality, something she could already do as a super-AI, which she could then use to collect inhuman DNA for the creation of am organic body with the associated powers. Darkhold didn't just give her powers, because it couldn't. It told her how to obtain them within hee own capacity however. Same applies on a grander scale with Wanda. Agatha spells it out in Wandavision when she says "your problem isn't power its knowledge." Wanda could always do the stuff we see in MoM, power wise, she just didn't know how as she didn't know how to use magic in a controlled, technical, way. Darkhold study remedied that.

@@GeneralGrievousCIS yeah thats what amping someone is. It's not they could always do it, but after acquiring its infinite knowledge they could. And it feeds the knowledge to them actively. To put it in perspective look at a character like Iron man. Iron man peaked at the bleeding edge armor, which was so powerful he was able to compete with Thanos with 4 infinity stones. That's pretty decent. Now what could he do with the dark hold? It would give him access to knowledge of how to construct engineering feats that are far beyond any seen thus far by other societies such as a the asgardians and wakandans. So it's definitely safe to say it would Amp him. This applies to Wanda. Without the dark hold she would have been stuck with power limited to her being on the level of Thanos children which beat her in infinity war. However she became much more powerful with it to the point she was above Dr strange.

@jumbo tbf she went beyond her Infinity War or Endgame level (where she was beating Thanos 1 v 1) in WandaVision, and that was pre-Darkhold. She was already using mass mind control, teleportation, flight, and large scale reality warping there. She also learns very quickly, and was able to use runes against Agatha after only learning about them five minutes prior. I somewhat agree the Darkhold amped her, by your definition, but I feel it's important to note that said amp is permanent and not contingent on her continuing to have the Darkhold. She always had the raw power to do the things she was doing in MoM, she merely lacked the knowledge. Now that she has the knowledge she's set and can sustain that on her own power. She will always know the things she's already learned from it, and therefore will not be any weaker without it than she was at her peak with it. Losing the Darkhold does mean she won't gain further knowledge from it, thus limiting her growth more than otherwise, but it doesn't really push her back beyond the heights she'd already reached, if that makes sense.

@@GeneralGrievousCIS that's true, although when won't actually grow any more powerful given that she's dead

Your first mistake is thinking Dr fate and Dr strange are in the same league

Exactly... Fate has plenty of powers in comics which can be use against Wanda. And due to the unpopularity of this character nobody knows how powerful doctor fate is... He should refer comics before do a comparison I think...

Correct 💯 Dr fate is stronger in comics but in movie of black Adam I think Dr fate. Not show all power because black Adam movie not Dr fate movie

Title says MCU vs DCEU versions. Pretty sure that the C and U in the acronyms mean Cinematic Universe.

What

@@aponghomlet4777 no fate don’t beat wanda in comics

Exactly... Dr. Fate is literally a God. Nabu is a 10 billion years old god and he was there when creating the universe. And even with a single thought he can regenerate his body or do many things he wants. And even without his helmet he can fight with others. And his "True form of Fate" is in a whole other level where he can effortlessly fight with Wanda and nobody knows that if they don't know about comics. In this state he can effortlessly overpower other lords of Order And Chaos, and Wanda is powered by Chaos magic 🥴... And just a wizard too. Which means Wanda is nothing In front of Dr. Fate and whatever she can do Dr. Fate can do too... Dr. Fate is literally a God who carries a man... 😏 I just mentioned few of his powers. And there are many more. So I think who ever made these videos should refer to comics as well. Cause I think he didn't know he was comparing a God to a Wizard all this time... 😌

Uh oh a Wanda stan Is triggered better run 💀 like nobody cares lol

@@overloadezking2934 still u cared to reply lol

@@dhinesh8425 cared?💀 No iknowledge thought you was so smart with that dumbass question

You can't kill fate

No

@@josiahthebrain8075 yes you can

@@lra8068 yes

@@wandasolosyourfav4561 no

Why do u have fate…..

@ampro1421 because comics wise Wanda doesn't even come close to the feats of fate. He is literally immortal and Nabu? Can one punch her out of existence. The things he has done compared to scarlet witch is not even comparable. Movies? Wanda all day.

@@ToddyX32 Wanda in literal sense can’t keep up physically he’s shown to be faster than a 1/3 of the speed of light consistently and can scale to light speed being that he combat black Adam hand to hand Yes she reacted to a captain marvel respectfully when it comes marvel speed and dc speed we know there is a very noticeable gap and that captain marvel does not perceive time like black Adam at all if Wanda can react to her America Chavez no speed feats can straight punch her in the face need I say more And strength he has power enough to to hold black Adam and sabbac down and his go to move is an instant ko to Wanda whose durability has gotten better over the years but she has never faced ppl on the dceu level Superman black Adam are stronger than their big villains and dr fate can box wit them and fate is beyond smarter than strange especially with all his experience and nabu I just see fate getting the sense Wanda is a threat and using his instant ko with his cross she has dealt wit attacks that usually incapacitate ppl while his can hurt ppl with godlike invulnerability

@@srt392_ag6 this is t comics kiddo…

@@rtnra captain marvel can fight at the speed of light and shoot beams that travel at the speed of light. Then lost to Wanda….

Mind control someone who has helmet and not just any kind of helmet but the helmet of an elder of the cosmos with unprecedented magical feats? Think again lad... If it was easy, professor x will always mind control magneto and juggernaut. Not to talk about an elder god that arguably scales above the source of her magic

@@richmanezihuo7214 i mean yea ofc scarlet witch cannot just mind control him like that but she can eventually kill him with chaos magic. It won’t be that easy tho cuz I mean she is battling against a better version of dr strange basically that’s better in every way. But she can rewrite reality n had lot more power n healing factor so I think she has a higher chance of winning. Plus we have not seen much of dr fate yet.

@@WorthyEditzs for that, I can't disagree... As long as we stay in the line of movies. But I think with time and good writers... Dr. Fate might get to the level his potential deserve, like how they have built superman overtime. PS: I think at this point Dr. Strange is better in terms of magical potential. So I don't think, magically speaking, Fate is better than Strange

@@richmanezihuo7214 yea same but the thing is that the mcu showed him very weak even in his own movies.

@@WorthyEditzs Agreed

We unfortunately haven't seen enough of Fate...It's a damn shame..

@@LongjoyNl I know and I can't wait

@Bully Maguire yeh I would assume so in the comics. But as far as film production, we seen more of what Wanda can do vs Fate. I'm pretty sure it Fate was at his full potential he would be a top contender.

@Bully Maguire Yehhhhhhhhhh I know.... unfortunately. But there is always hope 🙏🏿💯 I'd love to see at least a CAMEO of FATE in a battle helping a team at least.

Bros pressed his favorite character lost

@@bowman9778 no different then wanda fanboys crying when she loses like the zatanna video

@Official_DanCo prove it to me that your not a scammer or the real official cause I’ve meet people like you before

lied

@@BullyMacG not arguing with you no more go find something else to do 🤣

@@BullyMacG i got the ss you didn’t outscale anything

@@BullyMacG oh ok LOL you used someone else statements anyways

@@BullyMacG out sold that old man flop yes

no they not😊

She literally said “no more mutants” n almost whipped all of them out of existence from the MULTIVERSE. In every timeline. Ever.

@@jurassicsafari2826people can talk about comics if they want the subject is dr fate vs wanda in general

This isn’t comics keep crying tho

@@bowman9778 I don't cry, I just explain things. There's a difference.

That wouldn’t help cause she can change reality

@@LirycsHaitianmusic potentially. But it would provide fate a better chance in a blow for blow battle.

she can warp reality, reality warping is immune to past foreseeability.

@@jaydenlanser300 i second to this

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No

Yes

Putting up a shield made him weak tho? Not that formidable

Bro u not making a good case for your favorite

@@wambokodavid7109 Fate basically screwed himself over for nothing.

@@dimitrescu182 I know.what I don't even understand is why people think he can take Dr strange also.the guy has zero feats to contend and now Wanda???yeah she'll enjoy the meal

@@garymcguire9006 😂😂 well said . We saw what shields do against Wanda

Haha tell me you don't know comics Wanda without saying you don't know

Yeah, but this is live action

@@excutsdaily7335 Always you marvel fanboy

@@excutsdaily7335 Fax

Fate in comics is scaled with the spectre

Scarlet witch beats Dr fate easily Scarlet witch is 10 times more powerful than fate

@@abdirahmaanmohamed1582 yeah maybe in movies but outside of move fate stomps wanda

@@IDKTBH209 Movies Scarlet witch >>Dr fate Comics Dr Fate>>Scarlet witch Movies Dr strange>>Dr Fate Classic Doctor strange >>Nabu

@@abdirahmaanmohamed1582 dr fate is still stronger than strange in the movies

@@matrix-kx1ig But Dr strange is more powerful

comparing a magician and a scientist lol

@@whatif07 but they both think alike from what I’ve been told and seen

one lord of order

Thisss 😂

she’s not multiversal, maybe planetary. But she has no feats.

@@AmJason she literally omniversal sis and she do have feats

@@wandasolosyourfav4561 I mean the MCU wanda, which this is about. Comics wanda is Much more powerful

@@wandasolosyourfav4561 you say she's multiversal but she got beat by hawk eye,she got one shot by war machine,Thanos one shot her in infinity war,she got beat by street levels like proxima midnight and corvis

@@josiahthebrain8075 urm i talking about comics and are we talking about current wanda or the first time we seen wanda ok then dr fate said black adam can potentially beat him which is sad oh ok

Doomsday stomps

@@lra8068 some of the Avengers can be scaled to planetary with 0 wank.

@@Ilaunchnukes anyway

@@lra8068 🗿

I beg to differ 🤭

i beg to differ also

phoenix force …

@@wandasolosyourfav4561 what would happen? I was thinking Jean would just tank the hits I’m I right?

@@user-sh1gy2oe5f she can take the hits and react to them

no

@@beymani6904 dumb