I can't help admiring Tim here for speaking out about how he sees things as apposed to the open secret communication. He is, however, essentially a therapist who has incorporated religious and spiritual concepts into his understanding and expression. Richard Lang is just off his nut. But there is the sense from both that they are trying very hard to convince the audience of something. Tony is just gangster - every comment is a mic drop.
The 2 bozos on the right are talking in circles- giving no real info. The interject ridiculous statements like the fasts will lead you, and doubt is something that will take you to self awareness, HUH? This appears to be a controlled opposition. conference, lol...