Drinker's Chasers - Kathleen Kennedy STILL Trying To Replace Indiana Jones 

Disney is mad that Harrison Ford owns the franchise and that it ends with him. This isn't Star Wars or Marvel where you can tell other stories. Indiana Jones is one of the last few franchises where the actor owns the character. Studios and executives hate that in this IP age.

Let’s be honest, who cares if she replaces Indiana Jones? The franchise finished after the 3rd movie anyway!

She doesn't every pretend to hide her disdain for men lol.

Kathleen Kennedy: "Prepare for trouble!" Phoebe Waller-Bridge: "And make it double!"

No one can truly replace Harrison Ford's Indiana Jones, he is way too iconic

Indiana Jones ended with the riding to the sunset scene in Last Crusade

KK is a gift that keeps giving. Disney, please renew her contract, maker her CEO, pay her all the money to bring the mouse down.

You will never be free until you accept it's not about money. The bully doesn't want to break your toys because of money.

Great example: The Raid. Had a budget of 5 million and made 50 million at the box office and has gone down as one of the greatest martial arts film ever

"How does it feel to see your favourite franchises go down in flames?" "Feels great" - Mr. Plinkett and Scientist Man.

Smokey is like a service dog, trying to warn everyone about the bomb ahead, what a good boy

5 grown men being surprised a dog moved was the funniest thing I've seen in a while

Eric made the best point. We can't have good writing by committee. Everyone wants their hand in the cookie jar.

If kathleen kennedy was transformed into physical manure she would at least then have some redeeming qualities

I LOVE that Iger is saying the boycott of Indy 5 isn't a thing but if it IS that fans need to see the movie to give it a shot. It's like, No Bob, you're not getting money for this garbage.

Video ends at 2:40 when Smokey hears the name Kathleen Kennedy and just walks off set. Drinker: "Why you lying on the floor?" Smokey's "You don't have a monopoly on passing out on the floor in this house!" hangs silent but clear.

This is precisely the reason why Mutt was killed off off-screen

If it flops Kathleen will just say, this is why we need a female lead because Harrison Ford can no longer carry a movie and go ahead and replace him with Phoebe.

Lol, even critical doggo couldn't tolerate the KK bullshit 😂

WHY on earth are people depressed about Pandora not being real? That place is a death trap. Like Australia on steroids, everything wants to eath/kill you.

In the 80's they made computer games based on movies. Now they make movies based on computer games. It tells you which industry is the significant one.

The indi franchise should have been passed to Chris Pratt 10 - 15 years ago. Harrison should have taken on Connery's role from Last Crusade and been a father teaching his adventurous son the family trade. They kind of tried this in Crystal Skull, but Shia was so miscast it was comical.

KK deserves some credit. Without the coffee she made, Spielberg wouldn't have directed so well

From everything I have read about KK she worked with Spielberg and Lucas two of the most successful movie makers out there. Apparently she was a producer but none of her ideas were considered because they were crap. Now she has been given the reigns and it's payback time. She is pushing all her ideas but it's tainted by her hatred of being sidelined all those years. It's not enough for her to just replace all the characters loved by the fans, she has to do the big Fyou and destroy them. Her hatred has ruined disney.

Tom Cruise totally gets what people want to see. I gotta give it to the guy. I may have mocked him for years for crazy beliefs and it's still ludicrous he's into Scientology but honestly, dude is solid as hell when it comes to filmmaking. I'm sure Top Gun by KK would have seen him an old, broken bitter man who needs to learn to die so Diverse Young Pilots (TM) could take over and tell the military why it's bad

Before Kathleen Kennedy leaves Lucasfilm, she should make a Howard the Duck sequel where Howard is outclassed by a new female character who then assumes the name Howard the Duck despite being neither male nor a duck. I mean, it's literally the only property where she hasn't.

I mean the big question is why is KK looking to put a middle aged sitcom actress at the head of a blockbuster action film. She hasn’t got experience and she’s only got around 15 years to learn the role before she gets too old for the roles. Couple that with the fact that her previous projects and personality tend to drive men away and only really appeal to women with the same mindset as her, and we get a very small audience who might be willing to see Bridget Jones and the movement against cultural appropriation

I can't believe Kathleen "Kath Hound" Kennedy has risen to the levels of success she has. So much so that George Licas trusted her. Did she put on a facade for decades?

Howdy Drinker. Long time viewer, but I don't often comment. I was one of those viewers of the original film who suffered from "Pandora Fever" or whatever they started calling it, before I even knew it was a thing people were feeling. For the time, the visuals of the film were such a stunning breakthrough, which only served to draw many of us into the film even further. For myself, the beautiful, soft neon glows of Pandora at night which contrasted with the lush greenery and amazing scenery of waterfalls and trees bigger than the Chrysler building only served to remind me that the bulk of the places I have/had access to were ugly, industrial brown and grey locations. Where people are constantly suspicious of each other and friendliness is out the window. A world where I spend a full third of my life in school, learning very little of use, only to then be expected to live another third of my life slaving away to earn money to exist (barely) so that way I can finally retire when I'm too old, broken down and tired to do the things I wanted to when I was young. Avatar was a clear break from the depressing life I knew. I was invested in the concept of being able to slip into a new identity, away from the things holding me back (for the mc it was his paraplegia holding him back) and just start over fresh in what would seem to be a beautiful, idyllic world where I'm not contrained by dull brick and mortar and cubicles for the rest of my life. So yeah, having to exit the theatre after experiencing such a lightning in a bottle phenomenon left me feeling like my own life was lacking something critical. But that didn't make me a superfan of the movie. I do like it, but I wasn't tempted to see this decade+ too late sequel. And as for the depression I felt? I got over it.

Indiana Jones cannot be always so self confident. He often makes errors and is sometimes clumsy. However he is persistent and has good intentions that make you admire him. He's not perfect, but he's the perfect character.

What would you even name a new movie with Walller-Bridge? "INDIANA JONES (s' goddaughter) and the returning of the british museum to rightful indigenous peoples around the world"?

I have some inside info from Lucasfilm directly: Phoebe Waller Bridge's Indiana Jones WILL be starting production right after Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy is completed. You heard it here first people.

I blame Harrison Ford. He signed up for this and the previous film knowing full well they would be pale imitations of the original three. If Ford had done the honorable thing and retired, we would all have respected his position. As it stands now Ford has systematically allowed all his most iconic roles to be deconstructed and then reconstructed into zombie characters that bear no resemblance to the originals.

I was watching the Back to the Future blu ray set recently, and good ol' KK is one of the interviewees. This was the 25th anniversary set, released in 2010, which means these interviews were conducted in 2009-10. And even at that time, she couldn't speak in anything but those bland, hollow, corporate terms about "storytelling" and "legacy" and "impact." She had nothing of substance to say 13-14 years ago, and she still doesn't. The problem is now, she's in charge of two of the biggest franchises in movie history.

I love how everyone just kinda of rolls with Smokey having his own camera and everything...its cute and hilarious.

Smokey has nightmare and wakes up, traveling to his dad asking for pets of comfort before feeling safe once more and falling asleep. Better story and character development from a pet on livestream than all of D+.

They could call it Fleabag Jones and the Eternal Dumpster fire

The bottom line that Speiberg or Lucas are not involved, tells you how BAD this upcoming Dial of Disaster will tank!

One thing that Eric was really spot-on about and has been discussing in his own podcasts is how the current state of the industry has left the door wide open for independent filmmakers to provide a substantive alternative product. Where I think the big hurdle is here, is that it won't be like the early 90s when Miramax was largely filling that niche, because there isn't anyone with the same connections and ruthlessness that the Weinstein brothers and Harvey in particular possessed.

Damn, this woman doesn’t give up! 🙄

You guys shouldn't forget the success of John Wick

The first movie was "Dances With Smurfs" and the second movie was "Whalers On The Moon"

Personally, I would pay money to see Fleabag in a fist fight against Pat Roach's big German mechanic 😁

As a Brit, I've been bombarded with what an absolute genius Phoebe Waller-bridge is. To me , she's flavour of the month. She was lauded for the minor role she played in (re)writing the last bond film and the quite frankly overrated "Fleabag". She is Hollywood's flavour of the month. Kathleen Kennedy is the absolute worst thing to happen to lucasfilm, and yet again she has buggered another film/tv show up. Even Steven Spielberg has spoken our against her after she interfered in this film with the ridiculous back story for Phoebe in order to set her up for a solo film, awful. Btw Waller-bridge is heading the "Tomb Raider" franchise apparently.

Why are the studios creating characters that only relate to a segment of the population that has no interest in going to the theatre to see them?

Indiana Jones will always live on as a true hero and legend in our hearts and memories, in movies 1, 2, 3. The rest don't exist.

Despite it's flaws, the ending is cool, when Indiana, after waking up in his New York apartment, put on the Fedora, and reflected "this hat is perfect" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat, put it on and said "now it's perfect". Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with the hat and the machine gun went to kill all the nazis in the multiverse, embarrassing the all male Inglorious Basterds, the Saving Private Ryan crew, and every male in every WW2 movie as well...

Let's be very honest with the facts. *WHAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH HOLLYWOOD??* A) Their product aka movies sucks. B) Their scripts are poorly written. Because it's bloated to fill time. A very well written, tighten script should be within 70 - 100 minutes long. *Example:* In the Golden Days of Hollywood (1970's - 1980's). Movies were under 2 hrs. Why?? Theaters back in the day had 1 to 5 screens. Hollywood didn't need to produced hundred movies to fill 20 screens. Back in the day Hollywood made blockbusters for the start of summer while the rest of the year they made the smaller budget films that made profits to fiance their summer blockbusters. Today, it's the other way around. Hollywood makes blockbusters to fiance the smaller budget films that no one knows about because of the blockbuster noise. Hollywood stars are dead. Because Hollywood is dying.

Kathleen must have some crazy blackmail tapes.

Before getting excited about the game industry, remember that Last of Us 2 was given a perfect 10/10 gaming score for ticking off every required diversity box.

more and more i find myself watching the old tv shows i watched growing up in the 70s and 80s, and most of that stuff was ALREADY old and in syndication at that time. but i havent watched so much of it in so long that its actually kind of new to me. personally i actually miss just plain old Dramas, i dont need franchises and i dont love non stop action films the way i did in my youth. i want to watch films that actually leave me feeling something, a character i like and im invested in and i have empathy for what they are going through. i want to see some of my own real life struggles in them and i want to see them overcome those struggles.

“We knew that Indiana Jones would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Twitterverse scripture, the Elon-Musknew; Kathleen Kennedy is trying to persuade the CEO that she should do her duty, and to impress Papa Bob, takes on her multi-armed form and says, 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of Franchises.'" ― J. Robert Oppenheimer 2023 (probably)

KK was involved over 30 years making these franchises and always fantasised she was the hero. Since she got her hands on Star Wars and the Me Too movement plus the rise of toxic feminism, she saw her chance, and now she wants to replace all our heroes with fantasy versions of HER.

Some characters can never be replaced, just let it go ffs

_"Next order of business: Rian Johnson's Vice Admiral Holdo prequel trilogy, because what Star Wars is missing is office politics."_ - Kathleen Kennedy

Indianitia Jones: the entitled delusions of feminism...

Helena's not listed with a last name on IMDB. The greatest thing ever would be in the very last scene, Helena is burying Indy's whip in the dirt when someone asks who she is, raising her own whip, she looks at the passer by and says, "I'm Helana... Helana Jones."

It's interesting that at the primary school I work at one of the displays is about old mangas and there is nothing to do with comic books whatsoever they aren't even mentioned.

The word we used to use for "bubble" is "delusion".

i remember seeing The Last Crusade in the Guildford Odeon sat between my Dad and Nan. I had seen Raiders for the first time with my Dad and Temple of Doom at the cinema with my Nan. Very special memory. My nan died in 94 and was spared the Crystal Skull, my father died in March and was spared the knowledge of what KK has done to fuckin Indiana Jones, loool. Small mercies.

Not even morbid curiosity will have me handing over my hard-earned cash to Lucasfilm for this one.

Between this film and Friends we have discovered people called Phoebe are annoying and should be ostracised immediately

There already was a sequel to The Last Crusade, it's called The Mummy starring Brenden Frasier But like real talk, all is not lost, yeah I'm pissed they killed Indy's son and had him divorce Marion, but I'm not to sure how many people liked the Mutt character anyway, but the way things are not all lost, one last person KK forgot about killing off, one person who could still helm the Indy franchise back to it's old glory, Short Round! I always saw Short Round taking up Indy's mantle before Crystal Skull came out, and Ke Huy Quan just got his big break with everything everywhere all at once, I have no doubt he could bring back the Indy franchise in a thematically fulfilling way

They could replace Indiana Jones quite easily...all they had to do is create a good inovative character in its own movie...but i guess its too hard for holywood

I blame "The Force Awakens". Because that was a financial success back in 2015, Lucasfilm took the wrong lesson from it: they can take a dump on the fan favorite characters, bring in new characters that no one cares about, and still make a ton of money.

i have had these thoughts before, i turned 51 last weekend. and as a kid back in the 80s i remember for years wishing more Star Wars and Indiana Hones films would be made, and then now that they are being made or have been made "putting the awful qualify of them aside". you just think well i dont care now, i wanted to see them when i was 16 or 20 not in my mid 50s or my 60s and up. one one hand i sort of feel like ok go ahead and let the next generation have it, go ahead and change it and let it be theirs now. on the other hand i am like well no this was ours, give them something new to be theirs. my wanting to leave my legacy to them is not helped any by how many of them seem to hate me and my generation and absolutely DESPISE my parents generation. just as my parents generation disliked their parents generation, and that generation was AMAZING! these younger generations can have all their awful failed diverse franchises, thats what they asked for. and i will just keep the wonderful apparently non PC franchises of my youth. these kids find Sixteen Candles and Friends offensive.

Morbius had bigger cultural impact than Avatar

Behind some good men there's a woman who should have just stayed there.

I'd like to see Hollywood get some real competition, whether it's from independents or foreign studios. That can only make entertainment better.

Famously, producer-director ROGER CORMAN only ever lost money on ONE film, the socially-conscious "THE INTRUDER". And he promised he'd never do that again. It's nuts, for many years, a lot of people used to dismiss Corman because his films were LOW-BUDGET. But over the last couple decades, he's really become one of my favorite people in Hollywood. This year I upgraded all of the AIP "Poe" films from the 60s to Blu-Ray (after putting up with 40-year-old self-recorded tapes I got off UHF channels or TCM)... and I'm LOVING it.

All excellent comments on Hollywood and it's industry. One aspect of the Hollywood problem today that wasn't mentioned (though Eric touches on it) is that approximately half of all the people employed in the Hollywood industry are accountants. And they aren't cheap. As a result, possibly, this is why Hollywood likes to go after big tent pole movies because, even though the final percentage margin is about the same as a successful smaller film, the total $$ brought in is a lot more (which helps pay for all the creative accountants to screw over as many stake holders as possible). The "pie" of a movie has to be big enough to cover that. It's a diseased industry. And not just creatively, but in terms of just doing business, it's quite broken.

What is it with PWB and Harrison Ford? In Solo she became the secret AI that made his iconic spaceship work, ND here she's replacing him completely. Obssessed much?

"Women aren't real." -Abraham Lincoln

Ignoring the obvious fact that no one wants a girl boss replacing Indiana Jones in the first place and whoever it was it would fail, you've still gotta ask - why Phoebe Waller-Bridge? If you were gonna go this route wouldn't it make sense to get a woman who was at least some kind of known quanitity as far as helming a movie as the star instead of being an uncharismatic pimple of a woman who is instantly annoying? Like if your casting for type, why not Emily Blunt or someone like that? Seems like Waller Bridge is the D grade Emily Blunt. Even the casting of Rey in Star Wars makes more sense than this - yes the character sucked but you look at the actress, she's reasonably attractive and likeable (if not overly charismatic) - wheras with Waller Bridge it's like why? Who thinks this woman can be an action star in movies with a majority male fanbase?

Love that you guys mentioned it. People will find their entertainment even if they have to make themselves.

When I worked in Hollywood a production accountant who worked in the industry for 20+ years said that on average below the line workers accounted for about 5% of the budget. That includes from early pre-production to final post long after shooting. Just about everything else went to above the line and (especially now) SFX. A friend of mine who is a compositor in digital effects said that one movie he worked on where every single frame of the movie went through some sort of FX handling had a smaller SFX budget than Johnny Depp's salary. The guilds and unions are not why movies cost so much - it's the incredibly greedy Democrat supporting above the line individuals. You'd be surprised at how small the minimums are for actors, editors, and the 100-150 set personnel really are compared to what the top 5-10 paid individuals are paid. When I left the industry in '08 I was union minimum $30 hour. Respectable but not money your going to buy a house on in Los Angeles. You did make money because of all the overtime you worked. Days would average 14-16 hours a day. For all that all our payroll still was typically around 5% of the total production budget. That $30/hr was significantly less than what the same jobs paid in the '70s accounting for inflation. Hollywood is so costly and failing because of unbridled greed, politics and unprecedented levels of incompetence at the top.

Mark my words, Dead Reckoning will be the biggest film of the year.

If I had to continue the Indiana Jones franchise and have to set it up to be continued after with Indy himself retiring, I would have had Harrison Ford in the same role Sean Connery was in the original Indiana Jones Trilogy: the aged mentor who keeps his cool through all the wacky things going on because he has been through this before and its nothing new to him. You could have the new torchbearer be someone from prior films, like Short Round, or if you are going for a brand new character you can have them start out the arrogant hotshot and be humbled over the course of the adventure. Dropping the same lessons Indy learned during his prior adventures: some relics belong in a museum, some relics should stay buried and never see the light of day, some relics are not worth dying for, and relics should be kept out of the hands of those who would abuse them. Sure it is basically using the first three movies as a formula blueprint and changing role positions a bit so that Harrison Ford would pass on the torch instead of abuse his body trying to be the action star he simply is not anymore, but it is a way to setup a means of carrying the torch forward and passing it on endlessly. You just need to keep thinking up interesting relics to hunt. Just have to remember that even if the new torchbearer is female or not that they have to face adversity and it cannot be completely smooth sailing for them. We root for the underdog after all.

Avatar’s cultural impact is that it made my brother puke in a movie theatre as he was walking down the steps to get to the bathroom

God, I hope they sell Lucasfilm back to George Lucas.

i agree with everything, having a very very very low budget makes it too where you have to rely on the story and the writing more as well as the cinematography and actors it makes me so mad when me and my crew put in hours of thought in how to make a scene happen without having the money that most studios do and then seeing a 200 Million dollar movie that doesn’t remotely do that at all we always tell eachother imagine if we had like 1/200th of the money they had imagine what we could accomplish

ya know the A-Team intro fromthe 80s, its so relevant to my interests

I can't believe my eyes to see these crazy women's doings... How could they be so self-righteous...　Why don't they start their own endeavour and stop destroying and messing up things? Oh they are so hateful and resentful...

Has she not been fired yet?

another franchise dead and gone. in these days of rising prices, disney is saving me SO much money with the crud they are releasing. My bank account thanks you disney

Given the many poor storylines in recent films and shows, we really do need good writers. What we need less of is corporate oversight.

The Critical Doggo and Jedi Brooks’ cat were great consultants on this. Brooks’ might need to give his cat their own camera too in a future Chasers ep. Totally agree with the points made and really appreciate the thoughtful deconstruction of WTF is costing so much money during film production. Deadpool was a great example of a fantastic film made on a small budget. It can be done.

Tom Cruise is very intelligently preserving his legacy as the greatest action hero of his generation. I can’t wait for him to dominate another summer at the box office.

No problem at all. We’ll sit back, not go see the new Disneyana Jones movie and enjoy the fact that, when enough fans reject this garbage, the result will be Disney losing another 150-200 million dollars. We’ll smother it very quickly and it won’t cost any of us a dime. Then, we’ll repeat this process and over again for every other movie they make to punish them for their insolence. Let’s just see how much money they can stomach losing. Bring it on Karen Kennedy…🍿

Jezzus, Eric looked like his audio wasn't even working!

Kathleen Kennedy iOS like a modern politician she can destroy everything she touches with taking any responsibility for her actions

In the old White Wolf rpg "Mage: The Acension" there was a category of magi called "Marauders" -- they had become so unhinged due to the revelation that magic was real and reality was malleable that they no longer fit into the "reality paradigm" of the real world and could do all sorts of insane magical feats without any pushback from reality...because the pushback would hit everyone else around them. Normal magi had to act subtly or the collective disbelief of humanity would smack them down catastrophically, but Marauders could just do whatever insane thing they liked, with everyone else having to clean up after their messes. But in the end, their madness always eventually caused reality to kick them out of existence... That's Kathleen Kennedy at this point.

Novody at the top was allowed to f with Cameron's movie. So it made billuons.

I like Avatar. What I like more about it over the 9ft tall blue people is the fact it's set in the Aliens Universe. I think the only reason it's not talked about more is the people suffering from Pandora depression are so fkn insufferable there is no way to talk about it without them showing up and depressing everyone else.

BASED Rippa gets Hollywood to the core-- he's a deep thinker everyone needs to listen to

I think anything over $400 million will be a miracle. If it even does open at $60 million, it will drop off a cliff.

Speaking of mid-budget movies and learning from films like the first Deadpool. The first Shazam movie cost $100M and ended up making $500M worldwide. As a result, it was one of DC's "most profitable" movies. It's also considered by many to be the 2nd best DC film in terms of story (Gunn's The Suicide Squad being #1) as it actually had themes, character growth, real humor, heart, and a third act that didn't fall apart.

I saw avatar toys the other day at a toy sale. It was the only time I remember seeing them. They had sets of the navi characters and humans, creatures etc. I can't see many people buying them

$2.32 billion box-office for Avatar 2. And in addition to adjusting for inflation to determine how much money different movies have taken in, it would also be nice to know how much theaters have increased their own ticket prices, over time.

Great chat, guys; thank you all. I absolutely agree with Eric: this is a great opportunity for independent creators. In the past, we could rely on "Hollywood", and established media organisations, to consistently deliver mediocre to great entertainment. These days, most of the offerings don't even meet mediocre. Once in a blue moon, they allow showrunners free reign to do something interesting, and we get diamonds in the rough like Andor or Picard, S3 ... but those gems are short lived, and emphasise the poor quality of everything else. Yet, every day, I watch content on RU-vid that is more entertaining than the hundred-million dollar dumpster fires Disney releases ad nauseum. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't need perfect graphics and expensive special effects; give me interesting characters and a decent story, and I'm all in. The Raid and Dread are perfect examples: it's basically the same simple story: the Raid has great martial arts, while Dread has a few gimmicks, a beloved IP given a bit of respect, and Karl Urban (and a bizarre, inexplicable, and much appreciated tribute to Snuff Box), but they're both great, beloved, and endlessly rewatchable movies. (Production costs: The Raid, just over $1 million, Dredd, about $50 million).