Drummers That Influenced Heart & That Zeppelin Comparison 

John, I absolutely have loved this series of interviews you have put together with Steve Fossen and Michael Derosier. The contribution they make as a rhythm section along with Roger Fisher as lead guitarist are vital to the sound of Heart along with Wilson sisters. Thanks.

Very underrated rhythm section

I've been rediscovering Heart lately. My fav are the old shows from mid 70's. I would love to hear more about the KWSU TV Studio show(The Second Ending 1976) show. Thanks for this interview!

Also loved YES. Close to the edge, and really all their music. Labeled prog rock but they were incredible.

Re: Bonham and Carmine. Zeppelin's first tour of North America included them supporting Vanilla Fudge. When Bonham, who played a standard Ludwig kit - 22, 13, 16, saw Carmine's big blonde Ludwig kit he flipped. Carmine arranged for him to get one, though Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones quickly determined that two bass drums was one too many. Re: your uncertainty about the question Bonham put to Carmine. It was actually the other way around. When Carmine asked Bonham about the hand-foot triplet fills Bonham made famous on 'Good Times, Bad Times', he said he'd got it off a Vanilla Fudge album. But Carmine couldn't recall doing that pattern until it was pointed out to him. And yes, Carmine did so much for drumming. I've always considered him the first 'rock' drummer - the archetype for what became hard rock, heavy rock, and even speed metal (listen to his drumming on 'Parchment Farm' by Cactus - Simon Phillips and Alex Van Halen put that groove to good use some years later). Aside from oversized drums, Carmine introduced china cymbals to rock, had synth drums (Syndrums), had a bass drum as a floor tom (something Simon Phillips and Todd Sucherman now use), did the first rock drum tutor ('Realistic Rock'), with Deep Purple's Ian Paice was going to launch drum schools across America (didn't happen), ran his snare through a wah-wah (cool when doing press rolls).... Carmine was also responsible for getting Rod Stewart and Jeff Beck together to record 'People Get Ready', though he and keyboardist Duane Hitchins, who apparently came up with the riff Beck played, didn't get credit, just a thanks to 'da boys'.... Carmine is also a fine singer.

Mike was a real power house!👍

Hello Mike and Roger! Yay!

Yes. Always had to listen to the whole record and friends etc were always into it. That's my old school way, anyway

Love this interview with Mike!

The Beatles' 'Get Back' wasn't that far behind in the rearview mirror when Nazareth recorded 'This Flight Tonight', but I don't think Ringo accused Darrell Sweet of ripping off the drum beat.

Wonder if Zeppelin reached out to Michael after Bonham. Would have been a perfect fit.

Nigel, hell yeah!!

Watching some of the old Vanilla Fudge videos, Carmine Appice was straight up VIOLENT on his drum kit! I always thought drums was a way of keeping him out of jail, because of he was attacking his drums, just think of what he could do to a human being! Carmine has a right to be cocky, though, because everything he says about himself is true, it can be verified. When he says there was only him, Ginger Baker, Mitch Mitchell, and Keith Moon playing aggressive drumming in 1967---he was absolutely RIGHT!

Hi Steve!

Surprised he did not say Gadd or Porcaro.

Michael, As close to John Bonham as you can get!!!!🎉🎉🎉

Carmine is definitely one of the best drummers to ever pick up a pair of sticks. Seen him live several times and he always delivers.

M.D. is one of my biggest drumming influences and to finally hear him talk about his drumming and his influences is huge, thank you so much for posting your interviews with this absolutely precision drummer.

always said that Mike was the closest to Bonham in terms of style

Heart became a great pop band after Fisher and Derosier left. They lost the rockin edge.