Edwin's Generation is BEYOND CRINGE 

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Edwin is so shockingly stupid, it has to be on purpose. I don't like Nicholas Deorio, but even he was pointing out the obvious points that MamaMax was trying to make while Edwin was struggling to either understand them or struggling to find a way to dismiss them. It's just like Hugz. He's a complete lost cause.

FUCKING REFRESHING to see someone finally call out all of Edwin's bullshit. I used to be a fan of his, been slowly getting weird feelings abt his content for a while now but seeing how he handled the Mamamax situation is what really made me pull away, stop viewing him in a good light. he just would not let Mamamax finish and had to give his two cents every five seconds, it seemed. got to the point where I was pulling a Bowblax "LET HIM SPEEEAAAK!!!!!" but no seriously, Homeboy's brain must be absolutely RIPPED by the mental gymnastics he was doing to try to make everything fit his narrative all while DeOrio was being more level-headed. I feel like the only times I tune into Edwin's livestreams now, I'm just gonna catch him twisting someone's words or being hypocritical in some way.

I stopped watching Edwin's videos when I realized he never actually said anything. he can cover genuinely interesting topics and make them incomprehensible and boring, somehow

Adult illiteracy is a real problem folks

I always felt that there was something off about Edwin. He seeks validation so bad and hates being corrected.

Im so over this sect of the commentary community being sexual assault heroes. They never end up contributing to putting problem people under the hammer of consequences and only tend to muddy the already merky waters.

FINALLY I feel vindicated about those of us who called Edwin out about previous behaviors, especially the way he gaslighted and tried to humiliate Shilo and others, back in the Onision issue days.

The Technicals debate was a poor showing from Edwin and Jaclyn's criticism wasn't overly harsh.

Edwin: “Technicals is like, a punching bag for me” Also Edwin: *avoids all confrontation in a call with Technicals* All bark and no bite. Seems like true Mexican vampire energy to me homieeeee🧛

Now that Edwin's reputation has fallen pretty far it is safe to say this video aged like fine wine.

The worst thing he said or did imo was when he was talking to Shiloh (Onision’s first victim) and Shiloh got triggered and was talking abt her trauma and telling Edwin to leave her the fuck alone so Edwin screenshot the whole conversation he had with her and called her out and said she was “emotionally blackmailing him”. When you pick at someone else’s trauma knowing they have PTSD and you activate their trauma response you’re accountable for that. He knew she had PTSD so idk what he expected and idk why he couldn’t leave that poor traumatized woman alone!

You’re the first person I’ve seen actually acknowledge that regardless of law and shit, Zaptie thought he was talking to a minor, which is kinda sad.

I lost what little respect I had for Edwin when he used Emma Blackery’s personal life as a weapon against her when she rightfully called him out for defending and enabling abusers.

I used to watch edwin all the time until I realized how low his self-esteem is and how it affects his interactions with others. he can never take criticism and always responds so defensively and passive-aggressively. it was irritating when people were not even hating on him, they were making valid comments that he refused to recognize

I found out about this guy during the Mars Argo case and was honestly grossed out by him interviewing her abusers brother and messaging her abuser. The whole angle of his video was essentially “maybe she’s not as much of a victim as she says she is” disguised as “Im just getting other opinions”. So honestly all this checks out.

It's insane that Edwin is somehow even relevant. He should just team up with Repzilla. Pinky and the Brain injury

When I first heard Edwin, he seemed like a drama farmer, ready to stir a pot that is unnecessary

If you commit a crime and no one finds out it was you, is it illegal? 👀😂

First of all, Jaclyn was being very fair and wasn’t being disrespectful in any way. Second of all, I’m not surprised by seeing all of this behavior from Edwin. Used to be a fan, but haven’t been for awhile.

the Bibarel wasn't low enough to catch! I tried catching at that HP level before and he broke out of the pokeball! bro this video is such BS

Edwin is another 30 year old that peaked in highschool

24:16 edwin: ignores all the context and says max is just victimizing himself also edwin: dedicates a stream where he fake cries over mild (but valid) criticism thrown on him this guy is hard projecting (edit: the amount of edwin fanboys and meatriders in the comments (especially when you filter by "newest"). something tells me homeboy saw this video and is malding LOL 👀👀 )

Edwin was supposed to be a mediator in a debate between Primink and Repzion or Repzilla, and he completely was biased towards Reps side. Could not see priminks side AT ALL. It was insane to watch.

He mutes people if he doesn't like their opinion. Js. Bruh that whole Jaclyn Glenn situation was so freaking stupid. He was so freaking stupid to even agree to do that. He trusted someone's word and he was so naive and won't take accountability that he screwed up.

I didn't watch him often, but still considered myself a fan of Edwin. I decided to watch this with an open mind and..... jeez. Not looking good for him 😬

He seems really reactionary, and when called out for his reactionary behavior hes does the Shapiro technique: talk fast and what about isms

The fact that Edwin went into the Discovery+ Documentary about Onision just because he was pissed at Shiloh for basically reacting to him like a triggered victim was the last straw for me. He vilified Shiloh big time, and as much as she’d said some things that were not cool, him going on that show felt vindictive in a really shifty way.

God, Edwin comes off as that kid that literally everyone DREADS having in a seminar class because he thinks his opinions are the correct ones. I'd prefer Chinese water torture over than having a conversation with this guy.

It's painful watching Nicholas DeOrio trying to point out facts, only for Edwin to just embarrassing himself 🤦🏿‍♂️

Was nice to see you on ZeRo's latest video on his lawsuit against Jisu. Speaking of cringe, glad to see you covering Edwin 💀

I like how Bowblax and his chat: "okay Edwin... RIP INTO TECHNICALS NOW..."

the amount of time edwin didnt say shit to technicals when he could of talked shit holy 💀

Edwin looks at words more intense then anything and still can't figure out what they are. Genuinely shocked that a person like this has any form of a audience, it baffles me genuinely. Also he brings up "X person didn't respond to my dms" A lot but like bruh that doesn't make you right homie, it genuinely doesn't mean anything besides they have better shit to do with their time then talk to Edwin Can not read Generation.

I appreciate you making this video. As a person who watched Edwin platform my abusers trying to cancel me for the very things they did to me even after they've been caught lying publicly over the course of years, dox me and my family multiple times, share nudes of me to his discord server, and Edwin egging me on to talk about my ex's after I said I didn't want to cause them any more harassment - this video is very cathartic. Thank you.

Bravo!! I use to watch Edwin years ago and then it happened! Lightbulb moment. He’s an idiot! Seriously, you nailed this commentary.

My homeboy thought that if he kills someone and the dead person doesn’t sur him he can just go live his life like nothing happen, I’ve never heard anyone say something so stupid on such a fundamental level.

That's Edwin all bark and no bite. No consistency

This may be seen as controversial but these guys WILL go after an 18 or 19 year old who dated a 17 year old trying to throw the book at them calling them pedophiles and all the other words. Meaning if you are 17 years old and dating another 17 year old, after a few months when you turn 18 that still 17 year old must be dumped. There are Romeo and Juliet laws out there for that very situation. Edwin and CO. Go after people in similar situations all the time anyway. Yet they will die on Zaptie's hill anytime.

i’ll never forget when edwin went after dodie clark for making a video about how one of her friends, karim, touched her inappropriately when she was sleeping. he interviewed the guy and really painted dodie as the villain in this situation, despite the fact there was evidence from multiple girls that showed karim pressuring them for nudes. pretty sure they were fans of him and underage. somehow he made karim look like a victim and even pressured dodie into apologising

Edwin makes videos trashing people but can’t take even the slightest amount of genuine criticism. Jaclyn was being fair and not even remotely harsh and he can’t even take that and cried about it. He’s a grown man acting like he’s still in high school college lol

It always bothers me how people can just say "Zaptie was catfished" & somehow that absolves him of every wrongdoing in that situation. Yeah, he was catfished. Doesn't excuse him wanting to fuck a minor while being well over 18.

I remember joining his live only to hear him make an uncomfortable sexual comment towards a woman asking if she sleeps on the first date and everyone groaned

I have always kinda noticed that Edwin’s gen always postures himself up where he doesn’t need to be

Edwin's Generation is like a video game, trying hard to beat the stage, all while he's still collecting coins

You probably already knew this, but Edwin actually just made a response video to this recently... If you ever decide to make a part 2 or something, you might wanna see his last stream from a few days ago where he interviewed Max's ex Olivia (if you can handle all the cringe that is)

man your comedic timing and editing are only getting better with each video. this shit is so fun to watch, amazing job compiling and presenting this stuff

yikes his coverage of the max situation is so gross, so dumb. how can someone be so manipulative while showing contradictory information ON SCREEN

watched him and others bully a smaller creator over her telling her Dahvie Vanity story. It was vile.

He got mad one time because he was speaking out against belle delphine while his gf at the time was following and mutuals with her. I pointed out how hyprocritical it was that he would way anyone who followed dasha was a traitor yet his girlfriend can follow "problematic" creators. He replied saying "Mina tells you to fuck off" and he deleted all his comments after I asked him if that's how he reacts to simple questions.

I stopped watching him when all of the stuff about Melanie Martinez came out and he defended Timothy and made fun of Melanie's appearance and aesthetic, calling it borderline p3d0pholic even tho his gf at the time had the same aesthetic. He went on to continuously defend Timothy regardless of what happened.

as a latino, this guy seems like the kind of guy who refers to himself as latin x

Please make it a series to call out the commentary bros.

Omg remember that whole situation he had with cyr and cyrs gf, turns out edwin completely fabricated those allegations and victimized himself, all while Mina, Edwin’s gf and cyrs ex was cheating on cyr with Edwin

Oh so going through my messages with him he thinks Jaclyn Glenn was wrong for getting Eugenia Cooney help, and that Onions girlfriend Shiloh was just as bad as him....(if you know anything about that situation you know how ridiculous that sounds) He completely plays the victim and gaslights me into feeling bad for calling him out?

Damn, last time I heard of this dude was the Cyr drama, guess he wasn't much better of a person

Ah yes, Edwin's "the foundations of my career were built upon that one time Onisions best friend and his crazy girlfriend evicted me, good chum of Creepshow Art, whether I believe an alleged victim today on my platform is solely dependent on the weather, and yes i will be on the Onision doc even tho every single victim asked me not to oh no boohoo" Generation. There is one video series he made like 5 years ago about someone who had been trafficked and [r worded] who I don't want to name bc she was genuine and has been proven to have been telling the truth hundreds of times, and I don't want ppl to assume she was lying just bc he covered it. He did a good job covering that. That's how I found him. It was like his first SA allegations video series I think. Any good he did in relaying info was the work of the victim who did an incredible job advocating for herself. Not long after he made a series trying to disprove some historical allegations that cannot in any way be disproven. You don't get to have it both ways, you can't be an advocate and fake claim something that cannot be disproven. That's when I unsubbed. It's been so weird to see him keep f'ing up over and over again over the years. *Tommy C spin off comic as a bonus:* Oof let me preface this with my ~qualifications~ but I someone who was a watcher and twitter audience member during the OG Baited podcast era of the commentary community, and I was a daily SFTP viewer. I remember when Nick was just some weird kid who used to call in to Tommy's stream, same with many of the others (Turky Tom, Wavy, etc). Tommy is held in high regard for that reason, bc so many of the current year commentates consider him their drunken libertarian dad who stinks of pışş, but threw a ball round in the alley with them one time. Big weird to see them on the come up over the years too. I recently tried to watch a SFTP ep and Tommy was just drunk and slurring about being the grandson of an Irish person and tįtş while his cohost slid gradually along the ole uncomfortable-to-frustrated scale and tried to redirect the conversation to the topic at hand. It was genuinely really sad in a plethora of ways. By the same token it must be hard to have peaked in your life at 40 during the 2016 commentary community season of the internet. And not even as anything good like a main character or an antagonist, but as like a foley artist. Seriously tragic his story is. Anyways all of that was just preamble to me wanting to say that the "Tommy Senile" line made me screech.

man's the embodiment of the Dunning-Kruger effect. i only saw 1 or 2 of his videos, he had some good takes and was charming enough, but it didn't last long. felt like i was being stupidpilled

The mama max section didn't age well, despite Edwin being an idiot, he was accidentally correct

piggybacking off of Tommy C having Mr. Girl on, it's actually become a thing that a lot of streamers(like Destiny and Stardust) are having him on and talking casually with him. Mr' Girl's gained popularity from this and it's actually disgusting. When it inevitably comes out that he did something heinous, I'm putting some of the blame on these streamers too since it's not like he's exactly silent about his weird beliefs.

All I can say about this is "Fucking Finally" I've been waiting for someone to say something about Edwin. Quite the fall from grace

interesting thing just happened. I went to watch his reaction to this critique the other day bc someone mentioned it in these comments, and noticed that he was proving this whole point. i made a comment expressing that and how i used to be a big fan before i noticed that he acts this way. he wrote a whole comment back coming off respectful i guess and so i responded respectfully and just reiterated how i felt. I just got home and since I was watching this stuff his live came up on my recommended and I clicked out of curiosity and he was literally reading my comment on his stream and complaining about it. he acknowledged I wasn’t a hater when speaking to me in the comments meanwhile on his stream he referred to me as a hater and said the problem is people leave these comments and never come on stream to talk to him. interesting to me that he’d view these perspectives as less valid just because someone isn’t interested in having their voice on a public forum. i’m not an influencer by any means so I think it’s pretty fair for me not to want to participate in a livestream

commentators calling out commentators is why i watch commentators

Very well done sir. Edwin is the guy who says a lot of words but they don't actually go together as a cohesive sentence. Lacking intelligence is the nice way of putting it.

the hypocrisy and the cowardence feels like being in High school again

When a black man says "Why are you racist?" And your immediate response is "I'm not, why are you racist?" I don't think you have ANY room to speak Edit: I genuinely could not be angrier after watching the mamamax part of the video, I am so angry at his intentional manipulation of the video for his shit audience.

Did anyone find Edwin during the Cyr and Dasha days and him making allegations that could destroy Dasha's life and safety? That could KILL her? Because he thought Dasha... Copied his girlfriend?

Edwin just got exposed for talking to the mama max victims sexually , so I guess that’s where his bias came from lol

I love Edwin but these are good points… also can we as adults all just fcking leave minors tf alone. It’s so gd easy.

This video aged like fine wine.

Can’t stand Edwin. He actively ruins content. A great example is flamencos drama, he kept trying to stop them from arguing, kept trying to calm the situation down and played nice with flamenco the whole time. It got to the point that bowblax had to tell him to shut up and to stop ruining the fun. He’s a drama youtuber that acts like he’s above drama. Can’t stand that. Meanwhile now, he’s making fun of flamenco and acting like he was only buddy buddy because he was on augies show. So he’s fake, and sucks up to everyone and anyone to get ahead when so far he has yet to add any good stories and in any streams I see him in he makes it worse. Another good example is when he starts virtue signaling and doing guilt by association to flamenco on how it’s wrong to have mods that are transphobic and to control his chat and then one other guy says it comes off disingenuous when you have no problem that you’re chat (Edwin’s) is telling flamenco to jump or kill himself. Edwin does the usual oh we can read between the lines you just hate trans people even though the guy was making a point that this is all hypocritical. Meanwhile everyone’s on a dogpile on flamenco and Edwin keeps bringing up the one guy trying to keep the conversation interesting as just being a dick rider, meanwhile all he does is dick ride Augie and nick.

Can we stop calling them “commentary channels?” Like bro they’re just shitty drama RU-vidrs, “commentary channel” implies they have something substantive to say.

The super mario bros wii meme sent me to the shadow realm 💀

If selective illiteracy is a thing then Edwin has it. He doesn't know how to do research, connect the dots, tie his shoes. It became apparent when he made the video on the media's speculations against Marilyn Manson. He just swallowed it whole and ran with it, didn't question anything or made any research. This put into questioning his other videos on Die Antwoord, Poppy etc. Yeah, homeboy got receipts, but he doesn't know how to read and gets the info using a text-to-speech app tailored only for Chinese mandarin and cantonese.

the way he handled the Timothy Heller and Melanie Martinez situation was crazy too. he was so biased towards timothy and did not present a balanced argument whatsoever.

Never really watched Edwin and haven’t seen any of his videos in the last years. But I just watched a stream of his reacting to the Jessie Smiles podcast. He felt attacked or whatever because she used the term „commentary bros“. Then he gave Keemstar a platform to again claim Jessie made up her trauma. Lost all respect for him since then. He claims being all about helping victims, but then doesn’t behave accordingly at all.

Also one thing I found funny is I was watching the original Livestream of him responding to Max's side of things and yeah one of Max's old Discord mods showed up in order to talk about his experience with Paulina, and Edwin and his cronies bullied the shit out of him into leaving and particularly intentionally misgendered him due to him being trans and wouldn't hear him out at all. Also very interestingly enough he got Lucy on the stream and she admitted to grooming a minor herself he intentionally cut these out on the Home Boy Got Receipts archives because he knew it makes him and the girls look bad, but a livestreamer named Slug did a stream in which he did respond to it sense the two have beef and I think the full stream is on Slugs channel but I forget the exact portions and exact stream all I know it is proof that he is fine with rape and pedophilia when people who he likes are doing it, seems to be a thing with the commentary community of them defending people who do despicable things just because they like said person and are only against it when they don't like someone

I would also like to add that MamaMax later in the video mentioned Lucy blocking actual CSA survivors who were asking genuine questions out of concern and recommended my friends Steve and Spidercentaur's video for more context. Edwin being the smug jackass that he is was very dismissive towards and said something along the lines of "sure let's go to some random guy lmao!" This was pretty excellent coverage and you really did a excellent job putting Edwin in his place.

Tommy “if I’m the loudest i win” C

reminds me of when the creepshowart drama was going on and since their friends with creep show he kept saying how emily artful’s videos didn’t provide evidence and were very flimsy, and then said if creep show had given them any statement they would “go to bat for her”, I thought this was essentially saying that it doesn’t matter what the truth is since edwin is friends with creep show they’ll start defending her against emily no matter what the truth actually is (and i might be biased since i had been following emily for a very long time but I think it’s pretty obvious what the truth was in that situation)

Ice-cold take? “RU-vid commentary community” is the exact same trash as tabloid magazines and TMZ

17 also happens to be legal in Australia, so I don't know why she's pushing the "I was 17" line so hard

He's the definition of the guy who wants to play a board game without knowing the rules but plays with the most confidence... But literally, I think he's just not smart enough to give a valid opinion on any complex or nuanced subject. This is common with people with big egos, their lack of self-accountability and criticism won't allow them to grow their critical thinking skills, so they just stay dumb and clueless.

I watched Edwin's latest stream earlier where he interviewed MamaMax's ex Olivia. Let's just say, that's 2-3 hours of my life I'll never get back (why TF did I waste all that time watching that crap?)... Also Keemstar showed up, that was certainly an unexpected surprise to say the least.

Seeing this was so sad, cause when Edwin started out I actually had hope for him. But I noticed as time went on he showed to be just a very ignorant man who just cared about being right rather then actually trying to correct his actions when he has made huge mistakes. Its really disheartening.

I'm at 19:09 and I'm getting heated. Do these people have eyes? Ears? Effin' BRAINS??? Why are these certifiably incompetent people allowed to internet access LET ALONE successful PLATFORMS??

i came across him during the creepshow art situation. while it was obvious to everyone that most of the evidence was against her i found his videos on her to be a lot dogpiley in the sense that his only contributions in discord calls with other commentators were just overreactions, not a good impression... then i saw his other videos and thought that the way he was handling commentating was a bit too unprofessional because of how it's mostly hinged on his reactions and not solid insight on the situation.

Glad to see more people are catching on to Edwin's hypocrisy and general poor behavior. I only rarely watch his takes anymore if he's covering something I'm interested in, but ever since the Die Antwoord story he just comes off as an alarmist and sensationalist (a pattern that can be seen here and in every one of the stories he covers).. That was a horrible enough story on it's own, but he kept pushing the trafficking and r*pe narrative to the point of really muddying the actual facts, especially when his narrative wasn't even the real issues of the story (and were taken directly from the victim's lyrics, which were an artistic interpretation of their feelings about the events not representative of the actual events as they happened), the situation was so much more complex but less interesting (eg the story floated was a minor human trafficked for a satanic ritual, in reality she was a fan groomed and taken advantage of by a man in power, but that isn't as sensational and has a lot more gray areas).. At the time I was already feeling iffy because of the Onision "case" where he did the same thing (along with 2/3 of the internet), intentionally misrepresenting evidence or removing context is not just biased (something he admits to being), its actually just untruthful. There was enough evidence of actual abuse that dramatizing events to make them look worse or villify Onision even more is unnecessary and super manipulative (a perfect example would be the Shiloh 'candy corn' sketch that Edwin and every other commentary channel tried to reframe as literal abuse caught on camera and not the scripted sketch that it was, intentionally made to parody the abuse allegations and mock concerned fans. But that didn't fit the narrative so it was censored/edited and presented as leaked behind the scenes footage).. And then there was Amber v Channon Rose situation, which everyone warned him both Amber and Channon are actual bad people neither is a victim and Amber will only manipulate him.. Well he ignored everyone and got played by Amber and made an hour long video defending her. He did the same thing with the Onision documentary, he chose a pay day and arrogantly told off anyone who warned him that they were just wrong and he was definitely right, just to got played by Discovery. Then he turned around and attacked Jaclyn Glen in the pettiest ways when she gently tried to point out how ignorant he was being.. All of this soured my opinion on him as a creator and affirmed my suspicions that he doesn't actually care about what he's talking about, just in it for views and clout. He is way more concerned with evoking emotions from his audience and selling a dramatized narrative than presenting actual facts or holding people in positions of power accountable, and I can't take any of that seriously.

"The girl didn't feel any resentment, [he] didn't go to jail" is literally the same argument Edwin made as to why Karim Abridged telling a 14-year-old girl in DMs that her boobs were 20/10 wasn't bad. If you think I'm kidding, go to Edwin's second of 4 videos relating to Karim. It's fucking stupid.

Used to watch Edwin, got weird vibes after a while and unsubbed. This is... wow 😅

Edwin was caught sexting minors, no wonder he was against mamamax lol

You need to have charges pressed for a civil crime but if it’s CP then the federal government will be the one to press charges because it’s a criminal matter and not a civil matter

The W with these vids are their rewatchability, I don't smoke or drink and I don't plan to but if I ever do, I will come back here and dawn an eastern Massachusetts accent and say, "Look at this fuckin' guy" then begin wheezing for the rest of the video.

I think you outlined my greater issue with commentary here. I find you have to take each individual video and calculate if you can even trust it, and than if its even right. And that my "liking" of a person is typically only measured in a few months before they do something that shatters any sort of reliability.

The channel I didn’t know I needed! I was curious if anyone was going to start calling him/them out for the bs.

Next video will be about how bowblax is bad a Pokémon for a full hour Good video dude

As someone who's been subscribed to Edwin, I'm super thankful you made this video and it happened to pop up in my recommendations, though I feel incredibly stupid that I didn't notice his hypocrisy when watching his content before. Feels like having a blindfold pulled off that I should have removed long before now.

I was a long fan of Edwin and I still was up until a few hours ago, mostly cause of his Mars Argo coverage when no one else was discussing it at the time. But watching this video and going back through some of his livestreams and things, I am starting to open my eyes a bit more. This makes a lot of sense and is really well put together.

I stilll remember watching the augie debate live. Dear lord that was the funniest shit ever. Tech destroyed him so bad.

I stopped watching Edwin when I stopped watching nick and realized that they are both walking living breathing cope